Denmark's Train Ferry (& More) Explained
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Denmark's Train Ferry (& More) Explained
Today I cover the Puttgarten - Rødby ferry, which used to link Denmark and Germany, as well as the the Great Belt and Øresund Bridges, and the under construction Fehmarn Belt Fixed Link.
Thank you to AndyBTravels for permission to use his footage from the Sicily train-ferry:
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When you're filming the Rendsburg bridge, a family in the background discusses what's the definition of ferries 😂
Oh my god they are so german
@@amdphenomII that part was so uncomfortable hahaha
Yes, but one should also explain why there is any need to discuss the concept of a ferry: There is ferry-like platform hanging at cables under the Rendsburg bridge. It moves people and cars from one bank of the canal to the other bank. This happens at ground level, so that it can in principle crash into the ships travelling on the canal, which results in a ferry-like character of this contraption.
I've travelled both the Hamburg - Kopenhagen route via Odense (on an international City Night Line train) and the Kopenhagen - Hamburg route via Rødby/Puttgarden (with ICE-TD) in 2013 and 2014. It hurts to see it close down because it was always fascinating to see the trains go onto the ferry, but right now you only have an unelectrified single-track railroad between Puttgarden and Lübeck (distance about 90km/55m) on the German side and several one track parts over bridges on the Danish side, so it seems justified to extend the railway capacity on both sides of the Fehmarn Belt. Nevertheless the Rødby-Puttgarden connection was the most comfortable one for me at the time since it was the fastest, plus you could step outside to catch some fresh air. Will miss it tbh
Just a note of pedantry. The Night Ferry ran via Dover-Dunkerque not Dover-Calais.
Did that circle route four years ago (2016) landing in Copenhagen from Canada, did the trip south to Hamburg via the ferry (return to Copenhagen was via Billund and the more direct route from there) and absolutely glad I did the trip when I did...The ICE-TD trains were doing the trips between Hamburg and Copenhagen which were very nice looking and comfortable trains, and very cool to be on a train that boarded a ferry.
I first heard of this train ferry through MSTS, an old Train Simulator. ProTrain DLC features a route that goes from Luebeck to Puttgarden set in the 70's
I took the Puttgarten - Rodby ferry, and return in 1972. The inside of the ferry deck was laid out in a more open way in that my VW car was inches from the chains used to anchor the railway carriages….I recall it was a very cheap ferry to use.
Great intro m8. XD
Also, amazing footage with the interior of the Rail Ferry and the train you were on. Very good history on the routes in Europe!
Greetings from America!
Aaaaand that’s why I book the quiet car!
when over in boat with car, it is just so much faster than riding thru Great Belt, altho took hours to get in boat due holidays
Nice, I made the same trip earlier last year! Very expensive cafe on the ferry though. I also drove across the Great Belt in a rental car, the toll seems to be priced similar to the ferry was - about £30(!) I recall!
Yes it is more a "taxation principle" than actual costs. To still have ferries on both sides of the Great Belt Bridge sailing, the State has kept the price absurdly high, and on Femahrnbelt, only one ferry company, with absolutely no competition, has given the traffic absurdly high prices now for many years! I do look forward to a coming tunnel, which at least will be faster when crossing!
Actually the Great Belt bridge have been payed off already and the intional promise was that it would be free when payed off. But politicians being politicians have robbed the bridge cashflow numerous times for whatever pet project they have had.. The Danish Government also have to pay the Femer Belt tunnel project almost entirely since the Germans are somewhere from indifferent on a Federal level to almost hostile on a regional level (Ferry jobs loss anger and the treehugger crowd) The Germans pay for the infrastructure on the German side though. Freeway, raillines upgrade and a new local tunnel. But the rest is the Danes problem. Cost is in the neighbourhood of 8 billion euroes if you Factor in the cost overruns that always will be there especially with the low-Balling wins the Contract because EU said so being the practice. Which also means that it will do nothing for the Danish economy, in terms of Danish jobs. since it will be mostly underpaided Southern Italians and Romanians working there. Anyways getting back to the point the toll fee wil remain on the Great Belt Bridge, because even if politicians hadn't spent the revenue already, a toll free Great Belt Bridge would ruin the economy of The Femer Belt Tunnel. The actual fee cost of the Femer tunnel. Well the Øresund bridge if you don't got the commuter discount is around €50 for a car, €33 for motorbike during the summer which is retarded so... As a side note. DSB plan to use Siemens Vectron locomotives in a sandwich setup with talgo wagon for the Hamborg route.
@@martinjuulandersen9694 I'm sure that the large bridges built in the hard thirties have paid for themselves many times, during the years (It was English Dormann and Long, I think from Newcastle, that made the metal elements, which they have signed on at least Storstrømsbroen, but probably also on the Lillebælts bridge? And to think that the only Danish profit will come from having Danes and Danish firms to do the build is very shortsighted. The profit will come from ease of transport, not wasting a lot of time being able to even enter the ferries. And no matter how intensive, there will never be a ferry ready to sail at all times, as also the trains in "The Chunnel"!
Finn Sørensen The Greatbelt bridge was open in the 1995 and have always been a toolroad. The old Little belt bridge was indeed open in 1935 (the one with rail and single Lane Road). The new Little belt Road was open in 1970 (motorway/ freeway only). And Neither of the little belt bridges have ever been toolroads. As to my supposed shortsigthedness, I beg to differ. You frankly can’t use infrastructure project anymore in Denmark as a macroeconomic tool, because of EU. Also the eroding of wages and Labour safety standards as results of EU law has had an effect on the construction Industry nationwide. Futhermore the supposed net gain from the Femer Tunnel is highly questionable from a Danish perspective. The main use of freigth trains in Denmark is transit from Sweden to Germany. So No i do not Think we should pay High premium so Swedish companies can get better transport and that Italian construction companies can make a fortune. For what? Having to pay ever lasting tool on intetr Danish transport (Greatbelt Bridge) and getting lower work safety standards and wages on a national level. Sure there will be some better infrastructure on Falster and Lolland which would make the transport easier towards Copenhagen. But the notion that the Tunnel itself should create jobs is doubtfull perhaps its rather the oppersite. Especially if the toll is going to he as hefty as the Øresund.bridge. It will be faster sure but then let the Swedes pay for it then.
They should just build the Fehmarnbelt tunnel with rail only, no motorway needed. Would also be much better for the environment.
That's assuming no switch to electric/hydrogen cars before 2028.
@@kwlkid85 Still, cars pollute through emissions of plastic from the tires and the production of batteries isn't exactly good for the environment either.
@@kwlkid85 As long as electricity is still largely generated by burning fossil fuels, and hydrogen production in turn powered by that fossil electricity, electric and hydrogen cars aren't much better than regular cars, and even once we get electricity to be mostly green, cars are just less efficient in their use of it, and they still generate particulates from their tires grinding on the road which end up in the air and are bad. It's better if we reduce car usage as much as possible; but if you have to use a car, then electric is slightly better with potential to become even better as electricity becomes more sustainably generated. (Although don't get rid of a car that's still good to get an electric one, the emissions from production are far greater than what you save by switching immediately; just drive the car until it's due for replacement, and then get an electric one the next time you'd buy a car)
What drunken shenanigans where going on on that Eurocity to Hamburg at 9:50? Danish stag do?
They were singing this song ua-cam.com/video/oBah3gWXeWY/v-deo.html
Very good. How long will the new tunnel link be..?
Great info!
Minecraft 1.17 having rails that can go underwater:
Lmao
Interesting video
Do Danish words have any link to German? Or am I crazy?
Yes, they're part of the same language family - along with Dutch, English, Swedish and Norwegian
Why was their border control? Denmark is in schengen isn’t it?
Lots of countries 'temporarily' reintroduced border controls after the 2015 migrant crisis
@@DavidFrankal ah ok 👍 thanks
It feels like you like the danish railways alot
I do! I love Denmark as a whole
Well I hope you like it enough to come back
One day soon!
Why is it that foreign people call the Nord-Ostsee-Kanal "Kiel-Kanal"?
Blame Wikipedia!
2:32 Manchester Picadilly?
There's a reference to Platforms 13/14 at Manchester Piccadilly in most of my videos :)
@@DavidFrankal yeah i've heard that that was a major capacity issue. Near where I am theres actually a remarkably similar issue, namely the constant inability of the government to fund and build a 2nd set of tunnels between New Jersey and Penn Station(and an expansion of that station as well). I have experienced extreme train delays because of maintenance and capacity issues of those tunnels on multiple occasions.
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seriously, could you at least try to pronounce the names a bit better. Why does it feel like almost every single english speaking person thinks that Letters are pronounced the same way as in english !
Weil halt
I like your videos, but it surprises me you make an effort with French names, but not others
I wouldn't understand which city they are talking about when pronounced in Danish, I'm afraid. It's not by accident Danish is a frequent aim of Scandinavian jokes as being completely unintelligible.
Be nice! :-) I know a little bit, but to be fair, most non-Danish speakers don't have a clue how to pronounce Danish words, nor do they hear it very much.
@@aca2983 But I am nice ;) I think it's funny more then anything else. There are some excellent skits made about it, mostly for the Norwegian tv, like this one: ua-cam.com/video/s-mOy8VUEBk/v-deo.html
yootland not jutland 🥲🤣 your swedish pronunciation was much close tho.