Test F1 Williams FW15C CVT at Pembrey in Wales

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  • Опубліковано 17 лис 2024
  • In 1993 Williams ruled the Formula 1 with a high tech car the FW15C. Williams made use of e.g. active suspension controlled by computer setting it up perfectly for every corner. Williams was a leap ahead of the competition and was also making progress on other areas such as the transmission. Together with Van Doorne’s Transmissie Williams was working on the development of Continously Variable Transmission. The push belt CVT offered the advantage of allowing the engine at peak engine capacity. This leaded to a special sound as there was no engine rev. drop during cornering. Also it was a new experience for the driver. At that time David Coulthard was the driver. The main advantage of the CVT was that it was faster than the auto shift transmission. Unfortunately the new technology was banned before it could be raced in Formula 1, because it was to good and would result even more seconds of Williams racing ahead of competition. However CVT was banned in Formula 1 it proofed CVT Pushbelt technology is suitable for the higher torques. Next the 30 mm belt was developed resulting into the production of the 30/12 belt suitable for torque levels up to 350 Nm.

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  • @voodoochild800
    @voodoochild800 6 місяців тому +20

    The constant engine tone moving around the track sounds like listening to a ww2 plane in the sky

  • @tonylockhart1963
    @tonylockhart1963 Рік тому +45

    Thank you so so much for sharing this for all to see.
    If anyone is interested, the car is on show in the DAF Museum, Eindhoven.
    I’d rather listen to this engine than a current F1 hybrid, but wow that’s weird!

  • @brianligat9493
    @brianligat9493 9 місяців тому +50

    Ahh, the days when F1 was more about technology than aero, and Williams were THE BEST.

    • @symios0826
      @symios0826 3 місяці тому

      Most of the technology was used to improve aero, wdym?

    • @BurnBot_TV
      @BurnBot_TV Місяць тому

      Bommer scum

  • @Kringlebeast
    @Kringlebeast 9 місяців тому +21

    I remember reading that Renault had quite serious reservations about this because the engine technology was not there to sustain a constant high rpm output. The engine needed those periods of lower rpm to survive. So over one lap, lovely.

    • @brianligat9493
      @brianligat9493 9 місяців тому +2

      I bet the drivers relierd on the engine noise too as that's what they'd had all their careers to then.

    • @flammenjc
      @flammenjc 2 місяці тому +1

      Well thats the case with any race engine. You'd need so many balance shafts coming into play at different constant RPM operation intensities.
      Most engines will shake themselves to bits at constant RPM for minutes at a time

    • @germanares1981
      @germanares1981 27 днів тому

      he visto el video a lo largo de los años y al escuchar el motor entiendo que arranca en bajas rpm y van subiendo gradualmente y creo esa es la parte del software mas complicada de controlar pero lo deben haber logrado. Estimo que los tecnicos de la FIA deben de haber presenciado las pruebas y fueron exitosas y el costo de implementarlo sumado a la electronica que ya tenia ese coche dispararse en varios millones por temporada para cada equipo. Igual es una pena no haber visto ese auto competir al igual que Brabham con ventilador solo una carrera o el Doble chasis de Lotus. El ingenio no tiene limites y cada año nos sorprenden

  • @330arr
    @330arr 9 місяців тому +28

    Never thought I’d see David Coulthard driving a Dodge Caravan!

  • @ytyndale3643
    @ytyndale3643 8 місяців тому +4

    CVT for the win! Love my honda ZRV 1.5 turbo cvt

  • @timakimat
    @timakimat 9 місяців тому +11

    Amazing piece of F1 history. Thanks!

  • @jerryweirdspeed
    @jerryweirdspeed 9 місяців тому +2

    It's basically what you find in every scooter. But much more advanced.

  • @carlomejia2212
    @carlomejia2212 Рік тому +49

    it still sounded better than the new hybrids

  • @weallfollowmanutd
    @weallfollowmanutd 10 місяців тому +16

    It really surprises me how it doesnt sound that awful. Lucky its a v10.

  • @Holanduzo
    @Holanduzo Рік тому +7

    Thank you so much this, we only had the short version of the cvt wich showed almost nothing

  • @ВасиаткаБезпутная
    @ВасиаткаБезпутная 9 місяців тому +3

    Что интересно, только от команды "Виллиямс" я видел интересные видео о закулисье за разные года. Похожи, они были хороши в этом! Уживительно видеть видео о той эпохи, когда Ф1 была вершиной технологий и автоспорта!

  • @unavailable8681
    @unavailable8681 9 місяців тому +2

    Pembrey feels fast with 200hp. I can't imagine what it's like in a F1 car! 😅

  • @King_Georges_Calcified_Elbow
    @King_Georges_Calcified_Elbow 2 місяці тому

    those F1s were amazing cars

  • @tzeffsmainchannel
    @tzeffsmainchannel 10 місяців тому +8

    It sounds like some sort of a jetfighter, no gears, no shifting! Only one gradually increasing whine!

  • @theberengersniper
    @theberengersniper 9 місяців тому +2

    I had to replay from 0:47 several times to convince myself the guy coming into shot at the back of the car _wasn't_ Jeremy Clarkson!

  • @TheLockbeard
    @TheLockbeard 9 місяців тому +4

    David Coulthard: The greatest driver at the right place but the wrong time.

  • @twanvorstenbosch
    @twanvorstenbosch 6 місяців тому +2

    Van Doorne , Doorne Automobiel Fabriek / Doorne Automobil Factory ( DAF ) , Van Doorne Transmissie (VDT) nowadays called BOSCH Transmission Technology

  • @JustGohan04
    @JustGohan04 10 місяців тому +11

    So i'm now finding out that Coulthard's first Williams test was actually in '93 and not '94?!

    • @Rypsolisti
      @Rypsolisti 9 місяців тому +7

      Yes he was their test driver in 1993

  • @mkkiloma3991
    @mkkiloma3991 6 місяців тому +2

    I think the best looking F1 ever and those sounds! Now I can't watch F1 for years, no matter who wins

  • @rodrigobma
    @rodrigobma Рік тому +9

    A Williams era de outro planeta nesta época. Imagine se o câmbio CVT deles era usado? O time de Grove ia esmagar a concorrência!!

    • @somebloke2238
      @somebloke2238 Рік тому +1

      Well it didn't really make a difference in that respect

    • @THIAGO-hh4zu
      @THIAGO-hh4zu 9 місяців тому

      Um alvirrubro

  • @paulhawkins6415
    @paulhawkins6415 9 місяців тому +2

    Any one notice the fully active suspension, that also got banned

  • @kartwizard
    @kartwizard 10 місяців тому +2

    Awesome video
    Thank you for sharing

  • @elwoodabb
    @elwoodabb Рік тому +3

    Does someone recognize the cad software seen at 2:10 ? I guessed Cimatron IT but it is too much old.

  • @flammenjc
    @flammenjc 2 місяці тому

    Imagine a whole grid of these CVT boxes? Would be so egregiously painful. 20+ f1 cars at constant high RPM no matter their situation.... glad it never happened

  • @nolancain8792
    @nolancain8792 Рік тому +5

    Why does its constant drone unsettle me slightly?

  • @fam.hunger5244
    @fam.hunger5244 9 місяців тому +8

    I can understand why Max Mosley banned CVT before it was raced. It really sounded horrible and "not natural", even with the beautyfull sound of a V10.

    • @toxy3580
      @toxy3580 9 місяців тому +4

      It sounds completely fine. Way better than today's f1.

    • @waterfordrs22
      @waterfordrs22 9 місяців тому +2

      I guarantee you this,it’s sound, good or bad had nothing to do with it being banned.

  • @MM-mx8sr
    @MM-mx8sr 11 місяців тому +6

    It would be interesting how much faster this would have been . Why is this not a thing in normal cars? It would ne easy to spare fuel, to raise reliability.

    • @KlaasRijnks
      @KlaasRijnks 10 місяців тому +3

      I believe they tested the system at Silverstone and it proved to be around 3 seconds faster there. The system allows the engine to run at the optimum speed nearly all the time so full power would be available to the driver throughout. And it doesn’t cut drive completely for shifting gears all the time.

    • @rofufoja
      @rofufoja 10 місяців тому +1

      @@KlaasRijnks As far as I know that is more myth than truth. I read a David Coulthard interview where he stated they ran fast laps on a shortened Silverstone circuit and he thought the gain would be about half a second or more on a lap in comparison to their regular car. Sounds sensible to me since they already had paddle shift back then.

    • @KlaasRijnks
      @KlaasRijnks 9 місяців тому +2

      @@rofufoja I think I read the supposed three second advantage years ago, I certainly can’t remember where I read it or who said it. But if Coulthard, the driver, thinks it’s about half a second, then that’s probably a far better estimate. Still, it appears it would be quicker and it’s a bit of shame it got banned immediately.
      About the paddle-shift boxes: do you have any info on the shift times back then? They weren’t as sophisticated as gearboxes now and didn’t shift as seamless as they do today.

    • @tiadaid
      @tiadaid 9 місяців тому +5

      What do you mean this is not a thing in normal cars? CVT gearboxes are incredibly common in road cars, and often derided by purist.
      I've driven CVT cars for 20 years now, ranging from Honda to Proton and now Renault.

    • @auwz66
      @auwz66 9 місяців тому

      @@KlaasRijnks Shift timers on the first paddle shift boxes in F1 were around 100-120ms. So still very fast. I believe very quickly they were at about 80 and it went down from there. They are in single figures now.

  • @robben896
    @robben896 9 місяців тому +1

    The fking sound.

  • @АйдарАхметьянов-к7с
    @АйдарАхметьянов-к7с 3 місяці тому

    Вариатор на Вильямсе.Красота!!!

  • @TheFran17
    @TheFran17 Рік тому +12

    lost media found

  • @vladik2677
    @vladik2677 9 місяців тому

    Мотор Рено- лучший звук двигателя в истории автоспорта.

  • @Schnorbitz
    @Schnorbitz Рік тому +1

    Good find!

  • @bevianto85
    @bevianto85 Рік тому +3

    it's like formula e with real engine

  • @Holanduzo
    @Holanduzo Рік тому +8

    Its actually CVT and not CTV

  • @famousNobody10
    @famousNobody10 9 місяців тому

    A very young DC

  • @alidaniels2487
    @alidaniels2487 10 місяців тому +3

    A very clever invention and would probably have been a huge advantage for about 3 months until everyone else developed their own version! Was probably the correct decision to ban it if only to protect everyone's hearing from the incessant whining. Those beautiful v10s were at their best smashing through the gears with the accompanying crescendo! I do miss the 90s though with all the bad hair, terrible fashion and primitive computers. It was a much simpler time 🤣 DC was just as easy on the eye back then as he is now which is utterly disheartening cos now my missus has another celebrity crush. Couldn't get her to watch f1 before but now she knows about him she can't wait for the new seasons highlights on TV 🙄

    • @fam.hunger5244
      @fam.hunger5244 9 місяців тому

      It was hardly an invention. F3 races were won with a CVT in the 70's already, but your definetely right about V10s.

  • @Spyker8921
    @Spyker8921 7 місяців тому

    This is how the 2026 F1 cars will sound like, as they'll have to constantly run at full power to charge the batteries.

    • @yfva123
      @yfva123 7 місяців тому +1

      At least this one had a V10 in the back. If this one does not sound right, i cant imagine how shit the cars will sound in 2026.

  • @sen5908
    @sen5908 9 місяців тому +1

    Why did they feel the need to ban it ?

  • @antonioascari3294
    @antonioascari3294 Рік тому +2

    MEU SONHO DE FORMULA 1

  • @ManiAC4633
    @ManiAC4633 10 місяців тому +1

    Interesting...👍🏻

  • @ism671
    @ism671 9 місяців тому

    CVT as used on a DAF 33.. cool 🤔

  • @CM_Burns
    @CM_Burns 9 місяців тому +1

    Make V10 Great Again.

  • @LarryLinton
    @LarryLinton 9 місяців тому

    Imagine the V10 era without downshifts ...terrible

  • @megasyxx
    @megasyxx 9 місяців тому +3

    DC......the man with a square jaw.

  • @ThePaulRyder34
    @ThePaulRyder34 10 місяців тому +3

    Love the Renault v10. But without gears it sounds awful.

    • @weallfollowmanutd
      @weallfollowmanutd 10 місяців тому +1

      It really doesn't sound that bad..We hear way way worse these days

  • @Elmalab
    @Elmalab 11 місяців тому +2

    CVT not CTV

  • @SvS46738DE
    @SvS46738DE 10 місяців тому

    Why is this kind of CVT transmission not used in (light) diesel trucks?

    • @jamesgeorge4874
      @jamesgeorge4874 7 місяців тому

      Because they are fragile garbage in road driven cars, Nissan has been proving it since around 2006. Heavy trucks would be worse. They are OK in light vehicles, such as ATV / SXS, and snowmobiles.

  • @INDIGOBLUE555
    @INDIGOBLUE555 22 дні тому

    What about that poor engine constantly revving so high ? I guess that engine ovestress was likely to affect reliability.

  • @bentleyv8t
    @bentleyv8t 9 місяців тому

    Imagine v12 cvt

  • @Mercedes4eva
    @Mercedes4eva 9 місяців тому

    Puberty Dave....

  • @tommykaira8775
    @tommykaira8775 5 місяців тому

    How did it managed to survive the abuse?

  • @PaulRothwell-qo4qf
    @PaulRothwell-qo4qf 9 місяців тому

    Christ, coulthard looks about 15 yr old 😮😳🤣🤣

  • @Aderalasine
    @Aderalasine 14 днів тому

    Cvt, the future of f1! 😅 So wrong!!!

  • @gonzogenius8521
    @gonzogenius8521 Рік тому +38

    A truly awful sound, happily confined to F1 testing history, which is where it belongs.

    • @tonylockhart1963
      @tonylockhart1963 Рік тому +37

      As long as you mean the constant engine rpm.
      I’d say that’s just strange rather than awful. The V10s sounded fantastic!

    • @gonzogenius8521
      @gonzogenius8521 Рік тому +12

      @@tonylockhart1963 absolutely the constant drone, not the engine per se. I would never defile the beautiful V10!

    • @ErikGPL
      @ErikGPL 10 місяців тому +7

      Sounds the same as normal, just without the melody.

    • @nocraic
      @nocraic 9 місяців тому +32

      It's a Scottish accent, it's not that bad

    • @timelorego4595
      @timelorego4595 9 місяців тому +2

      Pq vc nao viveu aquela epoca e esta acostumado ao som desses hibridos de hoje que é um lixo, um som horrivel.
      Isso que é um som de F1 e nao essa droga de hoje. 🇧🇷

  • @jasonbirch1182
    @jasonbirch1182 2 місяці тому

    Cool tech but awful to drive and spectate.