How to easily fix a Tiller that's been sitting FOR YEARS! Tecumseh OHV 5 HP CARBURETOR REPAIR
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- Опубліковано 3 лют 2023
- We go over how easy it is to fix a Troybilt/Yard Machine/MTD Tiller w/ an OHV Tecumseh or Briggs and Stratton engine after it sits for years!
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My name is Bre. I took two years of small engine repair at the local college. When I left school, I fell into a wonderful job at a local small engine shop where I worked the counter for a couple years. In 2010 my husband and I opened up our own small engine shop in central Arkansas where I am able to work alongside my family and best friends. We see over 2,000 pieces of small engine equipment every year, and answer 1,000's of small engine questions. We specialize in brands such as Briggs and Stratton, Kohler, Echo and Shindaiwa, but work everyday on MANY other brands like Stihl, Husqvarna, Honda, Craftsman, Remington, Red Max, Troy Bilt, Scag, Bad Boy, Hustler, World Lawn, Poulan, Mantis, Etc.. Hopefully, my experience I share, will save you Time, Money and Frustration in the future!
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Quick fix on a nasty tecumseh carb for me has been a $15.00 amazon carb, 10 years later still runs like a champ.
I detest the criminal Amazon outfit but ebay is where I get them.
I haven't had problems with eBay or Amazon carburetors yet. I know you have concerns but I look at the feedback and whenever it's above 99% I know that the people aren't having problems with the carburetors
Good answer, cheaper to replace the carb with aftermarket carb,less time and cheaper
I went over my snowblower in the spring and this year the only thing that went wrong was I ran it out of fuel 😮
I too detest Amazon and was pleasantly surprised to find the muffler I needed for a Tecumseh cheaper on Sears online store. I honestly thought they were history. Walmart has surprised me as well especially with customer service after getting half an order. Within two minutes of using their message thing online someone called me back and refunded the whole amount.
Thanks for helping us know that nearly everyone neglects their machines! I have been to repair shops where they make you feel like a subhuman being for omitting needed service. It always puzzles me that they fail to recognize that this very neglectful behavior is what helps them stay in business! Thanks for the clear explanations on everything you do. I am taking your advice and going through all of my garden machinery today prior to needing them-and in an effort to save money!
Back in the 60’s my Dad bought a Sears Craftsman snowblower with a Tecumseh engine. It was a real pain to get it to start in the cold weather. But it ran great in the spring, summer and fall. After a year of Sears monkeying with it, he bought a LawnBoy snowblower with a Briggs & Stratton engine that lasted over 30 years.
Love watching your videos, Bre. You do a fabulous job of sharing your knowledge with us.
I still have one from the 60's that still running strong
May I chime in on this one? In the middle 60's as a kid I used to spell my neighbor pulling the starter rope on a 5.5hp Tecumseh powered Wheel Horse Lawn and Garden Tractor. We wanted to run the tractor, but it was a lot of work to get it started. We were idiots and had no clue what to do about it so we just pulled and pulled and pulled. Eventually it would start and run just fine. Then one day the old man decided to "rebuild" the engine. I wasn't in on it, so I don't know what they actually did, but I'd guess new piston rings, a simple lapping of the valves and set the lash, new gaskets and plug points & condenser. But it would not start. They tried everything, many new parts. Finally they took that tractor to the hardware store where they bought all the parts and the "pros" couldn't get it running either. They actually told us the cylinder bore was "square" and that's why it wouldn't start. So my neighbor bought a brand new 6hp Briggs. Somehow I got the old Tecumseh and I put it on my Go-Kart to try to get it running. I played around with it for several hours. I took the flywheel off to investigate the points condenser and coil. Everything looked like new. To this day I don't know why, but I pulled the condenser right out. It was a small condenser, kind of short and very narrow with a molded aluminum barrel on it to bolt it onto the outside of the whole coil/ points "mag." It had a kill wire running from the mag so I made sure it wasn't shorted to the engine block. Then I added some wire to it and ran it to the back of the engine and connected it to a big old condenser I found laying around somewhere. The condenser had no place to attach it, so I clamped an old battery charger clamp on it and put the wire onto a breather cover screw on the the back of the engine and just let the condenser hang by the wire and gave it a pull. It started right up. I was stunned. Then I proceeded to I run the living hell out of it. Up and down our dirt road for about 3 or 4 days. I stopped because I really couldn't take the evil eye the neighbor gave me whenever he saw it ripping past his house. I took it back off and put on a great big old cast iron 8hp Briggs. Since then there has never been a small engine that I couldn't get running and running right until these 2 cycle throw away string trimmers came along with that pulse carb. ben/ michigan
A lot of joy when an old engine starts up after a long time.
2008 was when Tecumseh went out of business from what I read. My dad entered a drawing to win a new “Hustler” mini bike and won it in about 1973. My brother was much older and abused it before and after I was old enough to ride it in about 1980. It had a 3 hp Tecumseh and lasted through both of us barely. Good times.
I never tire of your how-to videos. Thanks Bre, and keep 'em coming!
I also use Dawn in my ultra sonic cleaner. I add a couple tablespoons of white vinegar and when I turn it on my dog runs and hides. I now use it out in the garage with the dog in the house. And as usual, Bre thanks for a great video!
Never disappointing Bre, and the celebration dance at the end was icing on the cake.
I love you lady thanks so much for what you do😊
So down to earth and relatable. Kudos for all that you do.
I’ve got a 15 year old Tecumseh on a generator. Cleaned the carb but the clamshell tank failed at the seam. I repaired the tank but what I didn’t know was that at the factory, it looks like they put in a plastic washer to secure the tank output at the pet clock. Pieces of that came out from the tank clogging the fuel line petcock. Ended up ordering a new carb arriving tomorrow.. love this channel!
Very nice job Bre! I had no idea Tecumseh went under. I loved the comment at the end " For 17 yrs old and extremely neglected, it ain't too bad" . Yea and the tiller turned out great too! . I think I will follow your wisdom and take my mower in for a checkup and preemptive repairs. I look forward to your next video.
I have been watching your vids. I am very impressed with your patience . You are very good at explaining things . I am so glad you are not COVERED in tattoos either ( 1 or 2 is okay ) . Thanks for the help and keep up the good work.
I have found fuel shut offs to be very helpful. Between the tank and the carb. Use the shut-off to kill the engine, then carb is dry. If you have to, you can easily drain the fuel the next time you run it. Fresh as a daisy fuel system.
With the shut off between the tank and the carb,you still have some gas still in the carb,just my opinion
Have two lawn tractors ones a 98 with a 17 HP Tecumseh and the others a 2000 Craftsman GT 3000 with a 23HP Koehler pro. Both get at least 100 hours per season and both run like tops…. Just a testimony of what proper maintenance can do. Always start and run good. Get to “look at” a lot of neighbors equipment that won’t run. They can’t believe the age of my equipment…. Snowblowers a 98 also and always starts 1st pull when used for first significant snow…..neighbors stay warm trying to start theirs. Lol
Thank you Be, for all you share with people like me that helps keeping my equipment in “Tip Top” shape and with giving any problems!!!!!
Always love your reaction , when after something is repaired and it starts. Love your video’s.
I've had a few of those Tecumseh's with bad carbs also. Like you, I found that the cheap clone carbs worked fine. Considering time spend doing the rebuild, it was cheaper to replace the carb than to kit it.
Thank you, I’ve tinkered with small engines for five plus decades. I’m still learning. Appreciate your videos and insights. You always seem to have a great attitude. St louis, Missouri.
Chickanic, try using " engine tuner ".
It's a mercury outboard product that is designed to take the "COAKING" that forms on the side of pistons of two stroke design and causes rings to stick.
Works Great for soaking carb parts in as well as electric fuel pumps on fuel injected engines.
I have a glass jar that is filled with the "tuner" and I soak the whole fuel pump ( electric) in over nite.
Usually the fuel pump is good to go as the product devolves all the old fuel. If it needs a little "Boost" I take 24 volts to the fuel pump (Quickly) and this will get the rotor spinning.
Sounds crazy but I've save many a customer from having to buy the ridiculous over priced new fuel pump.
Love your show!!!
Glad to see Chick's " wrenching".
Lynn
Thanks for sharing always enjoy you resurrecting engines back to life !!!!
She is superb!
Good video!! As always, you give a great detailed explanation of the how and why on making the repairs.
My '75 Vette was red. Thanks for all the great videos.
I just recently found your channel. I have done basic maintenance on my property equipment for 30+ years, but have still learned a few things from your videos. Thanks so much for sharing. The exhaust and muffler video was gold.
I have a David Bradley tiller that had a Tecumseh engine. It was manufactured in 1950. I was ignorant of the coil being notoriously difficult to replace. The local shop who sold me the parts clued me in after I destroyed it. I replaced the engine with a Harbor Freight engine and fabricated 18 new tines for it, and is now a beast.
Really like your videos They are very informative It makes me want to work on my mowers Just wish I had more knowledge of what to do sometimes Stay safe
Great job, thank you.
Looks like a great harvest 👍.
So the Tecumseh plant in New Holstein Wisconsin close in 2008. It was formally Lauson small engines. Thanks for another tutorial.
Have a Mantis tiller got it in 1995 still runs. Thanks for the video Bre take care of yourself and family ❤️❤️ it. Be Blessed ❤️❤️.
You're my hero. Thanks 👍 saved so much money 💰 THANKS may God richly bless you.
What an AMAZING woman, Thank you for being you.
Terrific job done.
Great job fixing it again Bree....
Good luck with the tilling.😊
I've got a tiller I bought used in 1984 when it was about 10 years old. It has a Briggs 5hp on it. Changed it to an electronic ignition shortly after I got it and it never fails to start on the second pull.
Hi you are a very busy lady.All the best to you all.
Bravo! Success again.
I found your site by accident and just love it. When you said that it’s time to check your tiller. Ya mine is still under about 5 feet of snow lol, it’s going to have to wait for a bit.
You mentioned that you had a lot of problems with Tecumseh carbs leaking after overhaul. I noticed when you pushed the rubber inlet needle seat in, you did it dry. That may cause the rubber to distort a bit, as it is a tight fit. I always put a drop of oil on the seat before I pushed it in. You can feel the difference, and I had very few issues with flooding after an overhaul. The old floats were two part copper, soldered together. They sometimes cracked with virtually invisible hairline cracks. If the machine came in with a dry carb, you might not notice it. Once the repair was done, and gas went back into the carb, it would slowly seep into the float from the cracked, “water logging” the float, to the point it would either sink in the bowl or be mushy in operation. And just to say, the red plastic jet, as you called, is not the jet, but a nozzle, the jet is in the bowl nut.
I used vaseline.
Agree. A tiny bit of lube on that seat and the o rings on the emulsion tube is a good idea, for sure.
The "red jet" is not a nozzle, but an emulsion tube. Still surging and hunting, probably the pilot jet partially clogged if it has one.
@@mikespain8655 Hi Mike. I know full well what an emulsion tube is and what it does, but Tecumseh refer to it as a nozzle in their service literature, as well as an emulsion tube. Obviously it’s much easier to use the simpler word “nozzle”, as such I believe we are both right, but what it’s not, is a jet.
@@brucewelty7684 you sure Vaseline wont swell up the o-rings sir?
Awww how cute, yours still has the training wheels on it. Mine got yeeted on the first use. If you idle them and pull the handle they walk right along the yard without messing up the lawn. Great little tillers that just plain work.
Another exellent fix!
Awesome! I'll bet that tiller could use one of those fuel shut off valves! 😁
Great video. At 17 years old, that tiller probably only has 20-30 hours on it. With good attention to use, care and maintenance (all 3) you only ever need to buy one good one for a lifetime. Same for snowblowers in many climates where it runs 3 or 4 times a year for a total of less than 10 hours per year (not talking about you folks in Minnesota or North Dakota here.) while I had it in the warm shop, I might have taken the engine off and cleaned that deck surface. All that dirt and stuff will hold moisture and rust that out well before that engine ever dies.
A couple years ago I bought a smaller cleaner, Kendal, and it cleans carburetor parts, coins, jewelry, bicycle parts, and more very well. I use a small amount of Simple Green in water. Now I need to find a gold nugget to clean. Your cleaner has temperature control? Nice.
Thanks! This video helped me fix my snow thrower with a Techumseh engine.
After cleaning the carburetor, I reassembled it and then turned the float housing so that a drain valve would be as easily accessible as possible. When I then started it (after purging it), the engine ran fine for about 6 seconds, then it started to surge and then stopped. After I watched your video, I corrected the position on the float housing and there was no problem, just adjusting the mixture. Thanks so much for your help!
Setting the float height helps with not leaking. The surging may be from the main jet has a really small hole on a angle that tends to be overlooked. Tecumseh snow king engine are top notch last forever. Had a 1979 simplicity snowblower with a hs50 that I gave to my brother still had 135 psi on compression.
G'day from Australia. Great show, learning lots.
YES! someone else that knows a guitar B or high E string are great for poking out the grit in a jet. I had a craftsman lawnmower with a Tecumseh engine, lots of well thought out designs and it was so easily repaired, I had it for over 20 years till an 'expensive' part finally broke.
2/14/23
You never cease to impress and. Never stop please.
great video bre
Thank you so much for the video thanks to my wife I now have two killers that were left outside for a couple of years that I didn't know about I have to get them running so thank you
Nice little garden 👍
Good job thanks for sharing 👍😀
We got freezing rain here in southern Ohio last week and i lost count on how many trees came down. From watching your videos i was able to repair the carburetor on my chainsaw to cut up all the trees that came down. I'm not to worried about the carburetor on my tiller being gummed up. I needed to replace it last year but i just put some JB weld on the body itself to fill in a crack and i was having trouble trying to find the right one for it
Time to buy a broadfork. Better for the soil and needs no repairs, ever. Thanks for the engine video. I have been learning a lot from you channel.
I’ve had a few tecumseh engines. I have never had good luck with them. Got kohlers and Honda’s now never let down. Just my opinion!
Gonna be very helpful on my Yard Machine Go Cart.(when winter is over here in northwest Ohio) Yes with that same Tecumseh engine with the same LEAKY CARBURETOR!
Nice Tiller with good old Tecumseh engine. I love these engines, too sad they dont make them any longer.
Thank you for the very detailed showing of this repair. I have an old chipper and during a carb replacement almost had to stand on my head and use my left hand to do it. Apparently the carb was on the engine before the engine was mounted on the frame leaving a lot of crap in the way. I did get it done but would have had to charge a longer repair time if I had done it for a customer. Something the building company never thought of. Replacing a carburetor should be a simple operation. The carb was only $12 and was a very common carb.
Tecumseh went out of business February 2009. God bless have a great day.
I bought my snowblower (CraftMTDman) in spring 08 and it has a tecumseh. 08 fall have the Chinese engine. Runs like a champ!
Great video 😊
Only Tecumseh I ever owned was new and used on an airboat build I was doing. It was a BEAR to start from day one. Ran like a spotted ape once you got it started.
El Mirage, Arizona
You know here in New Hampshire as a repair shop I do get a few machines with tecumseh engines not only Snowblowers but some older Toro machines have the tucumseh and the Lawnboy brand have some to . Bre I held back saying anything about the Snowblower air cleaner thing but realized this was your first and only one you will probably work on .
Happy Sunny day girl!!
Good job, Bre!
Sporting a 26 year old Tecumseh Snow King engine here that has never had the carburetor apart, and it is not leaking yet. And this thing only runs when it snows, and sits from about April to November. But at least I have an idea about the carb now if it ever does go south. Totally hear you on the tiller deal. We bought the cheapest rear tine tiller we could find. The Earthquake Viper, and it is a cheap Chinese engine that so far has just run no matter how much neglect it gets. We also run the Mantis with the 4-cycle Honda engine, and that is a sweet ride. At least that one has attachments for edging and dethatching so it gets more use. Have fun with your sleet down there. I still cannot walk outside the paths on my property without snowshoes.
Nice interesting video thanks
Great video Chickcanic as always
good job
I fixed mine while it was warm last month and ready to go now
After this Texas ice storm I think people dam sure buy a generator for sure
I have two up and running if need it
Tecumseh engines were very popular on snowblowers until they stopped production in 2008. They had a reputation for being able (not always easy) to start in cold weather when others wouldn't. Thanks for the video Bre!
My tiller was purchased by my dad in 1967. It is a Merry Tiller with 3hp Briggs. I have not started it for a couple of years. I do know that the gasoline is non ethanol with Sta-bil and there is a fuel shut off that I always use so hope it starts. The carb was repaired and running well five years ago.
Great video.. thank you
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I don’t have welder tip cleaners . My cheap go to is burn the paper off a twisty tie and that makes a good cleaner rod for that bowl nut. I was told by a mower shop not to use carburetor cleaner ( I know makes no sense) but was informed that carburetor cleaner can strip some kind of silicone coating in the carburetors . Brake cleaner is preferred. And or use WD40 to squirt stuff out. Thanks for your videos!
Great video now I have an idea what's going on with my generator, that likes to run with the choke on halfway.
Tecumseh service manual used to call for removing the main jet/bowl nut, float, needle, seat, emulsion tube, and punching out the welch plugs before dipping the metal parts only in Gunk or Berryman dip tank solution. Beware of carb spray on o rings or rubber seats. It kills them quickly. If you don't have tip cleaners or tiny drill bits, you can also use the soft iron wire in the center of twist ties to clear passages. A good tool for setting replacement welch plugs is a pin punch, or a hardwood dowel.
Seen some people moving some lawn and garden equipment in the beds of their pickups recently, reasonably sure that they are on top of it and going to a repair shop.
The $15 Amazon (Chinese) carb for Tecumseh is a fix, when other/else fails.
I was in Hot Springs (Arlington Hotel near the Nat’l Park), when the epic ice storm hit .. we got out of there just in time (made it to Texarkana for the night), and will never forget it.
PS I just “know” you checked (prob) changed the oil.
Nice
HI! Great camera work showing exact places of what, where & how job's done; Without your Why, all would be lost.
Stay Excited, that Tiller's just waiting to stir up some Fun.
You are awesome!
I bought a huski trimmer that accepts attachments so I have two tiller attachments I switch off tines for ,works awesome have a pole saw and a bush trimmer wish i could remember the huskies model number I would suggest it with out a problem.
that's the best sound when you tear something down, put it back together and it starts on the second pull and sounds like that. r umm, rumm, rumm
Clean out the atmospheric pressure vent
Tecumseh engines were notorious for leaking gas for sure. The older engines 70s and 80s had a very small hole in the side of the carburetor usually right around the idle mixture screw. It came out into the carburetor body just above the float. A small flexible wire or even fishing line can be fished through this passage way. Dust / dirt and small debris will clog the passage up and the difference in atmospheric pressure between the inside of the carburetor and the outside air will cause the pressure inside the bowl to overcome the needle and run out through the air cleaner
Exactly!
Chickanic Steve at Small Engine Saloon put the pieces of what wants clean in plastic bags to use in his machine, the unit still cleans the part but keeps the water and cleaning solution clean
It saves on cleaning solution, plus, you can put new hot water in every time and save time waiting for it to heat up. 👍
Good job Bre.🇺🇲🇺🇲
I bought a 1975 Sears tiller at an estate auction. Replaced engine with a new 5hp engine that was on sale for $125 and three years later works fine
acupuncture needled works wonders for cleaning jets out and inexpensive on Amazon
Pet that cat 🐈 I hear meowing in the back ground 😻🤗
We bought a tiller in Florida at TSC, funny part was the girl at the cash register didn't know how to spell garden tiller, wow! After a few years we moved to Missouri and while my wife was running it where we put the garden a wheel broke. TSC doesn't sell this tiller anymore. Trying to find small wheels with a 5/8 hole wasn't easy. Finally found metal hubs with rubber tires and took a 5/8 bolt with washers and a lock nut to make them work. I also had to go with taller wheels. I cleaned out the tank and it started up with fresh gas and changed the oil as well. I had to turn the idle screw down so that it could rev up like it should.
I add lemon juice to the soap in the sonic cleaner,it cleans the brass parts well
I took an old screwdriver (round shaft) the right size for the seat and cut off the end and smoothed it off and used to push seats down
A tip you and some of your viewers may not know ? Always use a lubricant that is compatible with what you are working on all be it oil, 2 cycle oil, grease, petroleum jelly ( Vaseline ), etc ! ! ! this will keep the 0-ring or rubber gasket from tearing in screw on applications and also it will slow down Dry Rot ! Vaseline will also hold it in place during asembly ! Most of the time, use of a lubricant will allow you to reuse the same O-Ring multiple times ! ! ! ! !
I love watching your channel as you make all this look so easy. However I have no idea where to get my parts as we have no small engine repair shop in my area. Any help would be tremendously appreciate. Thanks for showing all of us not so mechanically smart people how to do these repairs, mainly referring to myself 🙂
Internet, Randy, Internet. If you're shaky on that just buy the part, retail, from some repair shop.
Search your engine model number and the parts fountain will runneth over
Coolest lady I've watched on UA-cam. Thank you for this tutorial.
For nastier carbs do a pre-soak in CLR (Calcium, Lime, Rust Remover). It does a killer job breaking up the corrosion. Just don't leave it in there for a long soak. 30-45 min is usually enough. Best carb dip I have ever used for a nasty carb. If i's super corroded, don't even bother, just buy a new carb, sometimes you just gotta let it go. Dawn for everything else that's not too bad. 👍
Up in WI here you should see the amount of Tecumseh Snow King engines that are still doing their thing and find my shop. I would say half of what we see is still Tecumseh.
@ stillmancorey Tecumseh Snow King Engines are GREAT. We still have many of those engines in Pennsylvania. All running very well!