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don’t ya just hate that fuckin shitt It’s a provin fact peoples attention span looses interest after 2 minute mark anything after that they either fast forward or go to next vid That’s why u see some UA-camrs have less views of there videos are to fuxkin loooooooooooong They key is to have a good thumb nail and a great video that last 2 minutes Some people have figured out the system some people think that longer videos will be better haha
I have small hands and for ten years of playing never thought anything about necks. I played a Jackson with 25.5 scale for the first ten years before I got a Les Paul traditional with a thicker 50’s neck. I later got a Les Paul standard with a thin taper 60’s neck and while I think the shorter Gibson scale helps me a little with very long stretches, the thicker 50’s neck is better for me and I play faster and cleaner on the thick 50’neck than on my 60’s slim taper. Both are great guitars and I really like both but even with small hands, a short scale with thicker neck is very comfortable for me to play fast lead and clean/dirty rhythm. I can play just as well on a 25.5 scale with any neck profile so this is all detailed preference and should not be overthought too much! Find a comfortable well playing guitar that stays in tune and play the living shit out of it, you will learn the particular instrument and all the sweet spots, how it behaves etc... then don’t let neck specs or hand size be of any concern. If it’s a solid, well built guitar with a great natural tone and you love it and play it as your main guitar most of the time, you will bond with it regardless of neck spec, just my thoughts. Enjoy!
Thank you for the insight! We all found out these strange things on this wild wild journey of sonic exploration! We appreciate your comment Christopher!!
Coming from classical guitar with flat fret board fingering a neck I liked was a challenge. I first thought the guitar body was the reason electrics felt, well, odd. My fingers were accustomed to the wide neck. As I tried different guitars, I was finding that I didn’t like Fenders. A friend loaned me an Acoustasonic and I tried it for two and a half months. I fought with getting used to it. Then another friend loaned me his Epiphone Dot. What a difference! The scale made a big difference. That’s when I headed to the three local shoes and tried every guitar they had in house. (One shop didn’t like that I was trying all their guitars so I left and haven’t been back.) At the second shop, I tested a Gretsch semi-hollow and the Neck and Scale just Fit. Moral is try them. And find a shop that will work with you. I hope to step inside Casino Guitars some day. Thanks for a great channel!
I’m pretty new to guitar, and my mindset is, I play a bunch of guitars, buy the one I like the most, and then check out the specs after to find out what I liked about it.
Fat neck guitars are like those big women you bring home and marry. At first you might be a little intimidated, but then you get to know them and soon the spell is cast. Love is in the air. And you can’t live with out them.
I never really thought about it when I was (a lot) younger than I am today, but when I had 5 or 6 guitars I started to notice that they all felt very different from eachother. I have somewhere between 15 and 18 guitars now and the necks are all radically different. I probably have every shape I just saw, with the exception of the v-necks. Although I did have an old 1936 (?) Kalamazoo Sportmodel with a very sharp v-neck, but the guitar didn't have strings on it, because it would be unplayable and it couldn't be fixed without having to replace almost everything. But I WANT my guitars to all be different. That's what inspires me to pick up the guitar. Every guitar makes me want to play differently. I like that.
When i was younger i loved thinner necks, but as i get older, thinner necks hurt my hand after awhile. I don't want a giant neck, but a soft v 50's fender is my favorite. It keeps my hand from cramping when chording for extended periods of time.
Same, younger was skinny necks, now 45 my blue collar hands have taken a lot of abuse. A thicker neck to get a grip on is much more comfortable now. Less pain on old hands.
As a beginner, i got a deal on a pretty nice strat with a standard c neck, and i play it fairly well. I put it in the shop and my brother in law loaned me his tele with a u neck. Im not so sure that i dont prefer the u neck on his tele over my c neck strat. Im thinking i may have a second guitar before very long. Lol
I bought a Johnson acoustic in the early 2000s. You know the one..black with cream binding. Best neck I've ever played. Imagine a Wizard 2 with a drinking problem. I still dream about that guitar. Unfortunately it fell and the force of the strings split the headstock.
When people start playing guitar, neck shapes seem not to matter. I learnt to play on a strat with a U shaped neck. Then I moved to a slim C and now I have two strats, one with a compound radius and one with a 65 C. I proffer the 65 C to be fair. Thin necks are not always right for people.
The only thing that matters is what *YOU* like. I tried out several Wylde Audio guitars and I was disappointed by the California Redwood trunk sized necks. I've never played a neck so big. Just unplayable. But, Zakk is like 6'6 with gigantic hands. Ibanez necks are wide from E to e but thin depth from the fretboard to the back of the neck. Paul Gilbert has these unnaturally long spider fingers that make you think he probably wouldn't like such a neck. Angus Young is somewhere around 5'0 tall and legend has it that his very first SG had a nut width of only 1-1/2". Standard sized necks typically have right around 1-11/16" nut width. That's 3/8" wider than Angus' was. My point being, you have to first get your chops up to a point where you can just feel the difference between necks. Even core model PRS guitars can have different feeling necks even though they're supposed to be the same carve. And that's crazy to think about BC those guitars have such insanely high QC but, you can feel the difference. Everything else on a guitar can be fixed but, the neck absolutely has to be right *for you*
Neck shape is just like anything else on the guitar... depends on the day, what you are playing and how you are feeling. Play lots of guitars, but the ones you love. It works.
I was a Wizard neck junkie then was gifted a baseball bat Slash Firebird…odd, but started playing cool riffs and smooth bends. Now my go-to’s are a custom D Tele, a C Nashville Tele, and a rounded Gibson SG. Epiphone’s D necks with flat back, big shoulders are the only necks I won’t touch.
Iwas wondering if there is any floyd rose equipped guitar on the market that can "compete" with the Ibanez Super Wizard HP neck Thickness: 17mm at 1F & 19mm at 12F
Have an old Washburn bass with the slimmest neck profile I've ever seen on a bass. I specked it vs. Warmoth profiles and it's thinner than their slim profile. The nut is 40mm which is between a classic Jazz bass and classic P bass. I find it harder to play comfortably because there's less in my hand and therefore less to press against when fretting, but it was free. Will probably be replacing with something more substantial.
My metal n hard rock style of guitars I like have all had thin necks n 1 day I picked up a guitar with a very far n very round neck and it felt absolutely perfect in my hand n I noticed I fretted chords so much better n way more accurately! I was more than shocked.. i never knew the difference. I believe it actually was a fender tele Squire for 300 bucks or so n I was so tempted to buy it. I wish I did now even thou it's a low budget guitar, it was and is the best playing n feeling guitar I've ever held. The action was insane which stunned me as well. Heck.. I could just swap out the pickups n it truly would have been a great player! I'm shopping for a fat neck les paul now n getting some info n direction.
The new top of the line Gibson Acoustic guitars have what they call “SlimTaper”, is this same as slim taper you are talking about? Thank you. Great video.
I haven’t played in forever but i used to play a les paul special and a friend of mine gave me this old beat up ibanez and i have no idea what model it was but the neck was so thin and flat i loved playing it.
..lots of really old guitars with no truss rod have the V neck design. ..which seems to be pretty effective in keeping it straight. I never had one with a bent neck. 🤷
I had no idea about the shapes of necks myself until 3 years ago. I bought a guitar with a soft V shaped neck. I didn't know what that meant and I played it for the next few months. I went back to go play one of my other guitars and was instantly like "what the hell is going on here?" I almost didn't like my other guitars and I had to get used to them again. After much Googling I discovered that the majority of my other guitars have what is called an ultra thin U shaped neck, which compared to the soft V shaped neck don't feel thin at all! The thin U's felt like railroad ties. To this day I have to play them for a bit to get used to the feel lol.
I have three favourite neck shapes. Nash S-63 Strat has that early 60’s medium thick tapering profile which I really like. Really comfotable to play. For some time I thought, that this is the only one for me. Then I found John Page’s a bit wider and thinner profile to be also very nice. One day I tried a Fender Nocaster reissue, which has that even taper inch thick neck with a 7.25 radius fingerboard. I expected it to be nearly unplayable but I loved it. I was totally surprised how comfortable it felt. Even bigger surprise was Strandberg’s crazy weird neck profile. It looks totally unplayable but feels totally playable. Maybe the biggest factor for me is the shape of shoulders. I like them to be rounded and the fretboard edges to be rolled.
Does anyone know what the Gretsch “Vintage V” neck is? I played a Brian Setzer signature and it was mindblowing. I’ve never ever played a guitar with a neck as nice as that felt and my playing was improved instantly. I’m now looking for a guitar with the same neck but not sure if it’s what would be classed as a soft or hard V? I’d love to have the same profile on my telecaster
I have two 50s Les Pauls, with 50s neck. Both are the same neck. One is a Les Paul 50s standard the other is a TV yellow 50s special. Both necks are exactly the same neck. It’s big and chunky sure, but I prefer it because of years of playing having something chunky to grab is much easier on my aging hands. I like to grab something round and girthy lol that sounds so bad.
I acquired a lovely sounding partscaster, (Telecaster) but the neck is a modern D shape, it's just too thin from the 5th fret down to the nut, I just can't get on with it, I definitely prefer an old type C neck profile.
If it's a decent guitar maker I love all sizes of necks,it did take me a few days to get used to a fat neck LP, up against my thin tapered neck LP, but I found I like them both for different reasons.
I think one of the reasons I hate PRS is because the necks are miserable to play. The distance between the thumb and fingertips is critical for me. Some of those 90s Strats had a neck like a phone pole, which I guess is fine if you're just gonna chunk chords above the 5th fret. It just feels like lazy neck building to me.
I ordered a Tokai Love Rock and it's a 59' profile, which is a U but too thick. I have small hands and have been experiencing hand fatigue which I though might be from playing stuff off of Physical Grafitti. I grabbed my 78' LP Custom and never realized how thin and easy that neck is to play. The Tokai is an awesome sounding and playing guitar, but it's not going to be as easy to play live. I had never even considered neck shapes until now.
I feel like you said very little about the necks, but boy would I like to have seen that dance hall. It's all candy to a kid in a candy shop. They are guitars.
Bottom line ... try out a bunch of guitars .... the one that agrees with your fretting hand the most, that is the ideal neck shape for your hand. When I tried the Fender Player Series Telecaster, I could not believe how great that felt in my fretting hand. Not perfect ... but so much better than the neck on my Tele. I have a 2010 Epi Dot with that chunky D shape neck, and the shoulders are too much. I am going to be shaving them down soon. I have the Modern C template as a reference. There have been guitars I've borrowed from friends over the years that I could play for hours. One was a Washburn 12 string. Such a breeze to play. My Martin D35 12 string has always been a beast ....
I’ve been looking between the Am original 50’s Tele vs the new Broadcaster Reissue...My only concern is the radius! I don’t mind chunky necks but what worries me is the radius. I just feel awkward about calling haha! But thanks for being awesome guys!
I have played lots of different guitars and the most comfortable has been ones with necks that are more ergonomically designed ("asymmetrical")...thicker on the bass string side and thinner on the high string side. I'm sure they are probably harder to build, but they make the most sense really. I had a old acoustic with a v neck and hated it, also had an old one with a super jumbo U style neck and that was also horrible! Talk about working to fret notes. Can you say strenuous playing and fatiguing quickly? Well those were the guitars I first played and I wanted to learn so bad that I just kept plucking away. Action was so bad, I'm talking close to 1/8' or more from the fret board in spots, but it built up my callouses fast and HARD. Sound was terrible though but I wasn't discouraged one bit, I was happy to have something to play on. Broke strings and when I wasn't able to get new ones I would re-wrap them around the ball end (if they were long enough) and re-string them. Built up strength too. But I have long since moved on to better things, but getting old has come with it! Coming from a person who struggles with Carpel tunnel and arthritis, an ergonomically designed neck is really a no-brainer! I have yet to play one with the twisted neck or tru-ergonomically designed. Check those out, you haven't even mentioned them. I think only one guy builds them right now and I remember when they came out and I'm not sure they will ever catch on? I mean they have to be a nightmare to build and keep intonated? 30+ years of playing and I am still obsessed and in love! I still keep a guitar next to my bed and she's usually the last thing I see before I sleep!
I got a willcut 63 fender cs stratocaster exclusive but it has a 57 soft v shape, I really like it so far. Still not sure if I like the 60s slim c or the soft v better tho. 🤔
I've got a 79 greco stratocaster copy but it's a 4 bolt. Huge neck which it took a while to get used to. Each guitar gets played differently but I kinda gravitate to smaller slim Cs
Thin version of Mark Ruffalo and more handsome lookin Damien Haas lookin dude from Smosh doin a great conversation about guitar neck, by the way Thanks for information guys
Hm. I am at the point in my guitar journey where I feel it would be natural to master the thumb over neck. But I can't seem to get it. On fret 1 to 3 I manage, but further up the neck gets too wide for my short chubby fingers. Or at least it feels that way. I've tried to change angles on the wrist, finger placement and angles but it does not come together. And not like struggling with the dreaded F chord years ago. Now I can actually feel I've reached my limits on the axes I've got. One Hagstrom Les Paul shaped student version and a Carvin Dc400 strat clone. I didn't know or even think about neck shapes before watching this video. Is there any neck shape, contour, radius or or neck width/height that might aid me in managing the thumb over neck thing? My dream is to be able to fret the E string all the way up the neck using the thumb, but also damping the A string using the thumb over technique. I am willing to part with my guitars and get another if someone can fill me in, in regards to what neck shape, contour or neck width I should look for that might give me the upper hand in regards to thumb over neck for E and A string. I've been chipping away at the thumb over neck since this winter and I just gave up last month. Half a year of failing broke my spirit and I came to terms with being a failure for the thumb over neck. Is there maybe still hope if I look for a certain neck shape or width? Cos I doubt my fingers or hand will grow longer any day soon. Any and all tips and or tricks to master this is much obliged.
What neck shape is best if you have smaller hands and struggle to fret with thumb on the E wrap around Hendrix style but want to play that way with a little more ease?
As much as the profile of the neck (what you guys are talking about) might have different adherents, what about the width of the fret board? String spacing must surely be equally important. Some hardcore metal necks I've seen seem as wide as a surf board. Personally I have some minor handicaps (arthritis and nerve damage) that greatly influences the general playability of any given neck. Not to mention gloss vs satin/smooth finish.
I used a Les Paul for a while and loved it but playing chords on it irritated me. Fingers always stumbled over each other. I knew where to put my fingers and do the shapes but something kept me from really giving it that proper grip. Bought a prs silver sky and omg chords are a breeze. It’s got a thick nick and slightly wider frets but the difference is night and day. Didn’t think this would make such a difference. I still have the Les Paul but I definitely play it less :( which is a shame since I did fall in love with its aesthetics. Both are great regardless.
"The whiff of our detritus coming out of our mouths is worse than what's happening in (the toilet)..." You guys have inspired me to write to Google to get them to develop an AI that detects and skips unnecessary banter.
My problem is my fingers overlap strings no matter how hard I try to play a string straight on. I just want more space between the strings even if it's a little bit. Using a squire strat.
@@josemolina3858 Oh no. It is very comfortable to hold. Its just, its so thin, if you grip really firmly, you can bend it a little out of pitch. If you play strictly chords, defiantly not the neck for you.
Not always too bothered about necks but PRS necks just feel wrong! I have a 2000 Strat deluxe and an 85 Ibanez Roadstar which are very different but find them easy enough to play . I played a Les Paul Studio which was too chunky for easy chord playing .
I used to love super thin necks like an ibanez or some jackson necks, then one day i was in the Hollywood guitar center. I picked up an old '55 all gold Les Paul, and it had one of the thickest necks ive ever played, but i immediately fell in love with the shape
Can you guys edit out the useless rambling and have this video just be the useful information. The neck shape diagrams are very useful and why people click on this video. To learn about guitars, not your misdirected preference of bad club music over real musicians. How can you make a video like this and than think the audience will be with you in hating on Jeff beck. Or care about lawnmower man. I love horror movies too, but I'm looking up guitar necks at the moment.
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2:49 Where they actually start talking about neck profiles...
thank you sir!!!
Thank you, kind sir.
Thanks😂
Try a google image search next time, MORONS!
@@ofadetergentsud Google image search doesn't explain the difference between the profiles though
This is brutal - like 2 children yapping to each other.
2 minutes of content spread out over an 11 minute video.
Yeah boring
Thanks for the heads ups...fast forward it is
don’t ya just hate that fuckin shitt
It’s a provin fact peoples attention span looses interest after 2 minute mark anything after that they either fast forward or go to next vid
That’s why u see some UA-camrs have less views of there videos are to fuxkin loooooooooooong
They key is to have a good thumb nail and a great video that last 2 minutes
Some people have figured out the system some people think that longer videos will be better haha
Every video they make is like that. 2 minute answer and 10 minutes of blah blah blah.
LOL I imagine myself working an guitar center: (at the phone) Sir this neck feels wide, hard and smooth at the same time.
Winston Zendejas that made me smile:) thanks for watching
And sharing!
Hey, phrasing!
This is what happened when you go into class too high
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I have small hands and for ten years of playing never thought anything about necks. I played a Jackson with 25.5 scale for the first ten years before I got a Les Paul traditional with a thicker 50’s neck. I later got a Les Paul standard with a thin taper 60’s neck and while I think the shorter Gibson scale helps me a little with very long stretches, the thicker 50’s neck is better for me and I play faster and cleaner on the thick 50’neck than on my 60’s slim taper. Both are great guitars and I really like both but even with small hands, a short scale with thicker neck is very comfortable for me to play fast lead and clean/dirty rhythm. I can play just as well on a 25.5 scale with any neck profile so this is all detailed preference and should not be overthought too much! Find a comfortable well playing guitar that stays in tune and play the living shit out of it, you will learn the particular instrument and all the sweet spots, how it behaves etc... then don’t let neck specs or hand size be of any concern. If it’s a solid, well built guitar with a great natural tone and you love it and play it as your main guitar most of the time, you will bond with it regardless of neck spec, just my thoughts. Enjoy!
Thank you for the insight! We all found out these strange things on this wild wild journey of sonic exploration! We appreciate your comment Christopher!!
Would you recomend a C neck or D neck?
@@bg3297 .. your hand will know.. so NEVER buy a guitar, that you plan to play, by mail order..!!
Coming from classical guitar with flat fret board fingering a neck I liked was a challenge. I first thought the guitar body was the reason electrics felt, well, odd. My fingers were accustomed to the wide neck. As I tried different guitars, I was finding that I didn’t like Fenders. A friend loaned me an Acoustasonic and I tried it for two and a half months. I fought with getting used to it. Then another friend loaned me his Epiphone Dot. What a difference! The scale made a big difference. That’s when I headed to the three local shoes and tried every guitar they had in house. (One shop didn’t like that I was trying all their guitars so I left and haven’t been back.) At the second shop, I tested a Gretsch semi-hollow and the Neck and Scale just Fit. Moral is try them. And find a shop that will work with you. I hope to step inside Casino Guitars some day. Thanks for a great channel!
I feel like these guys haven’t slept in a. While
I’m pretty new to guitar, and my mindset is, I play a bunch of guitars, buy the one I like the most, and then check out the specs after to find out what I liked about it.
Don’t pay any attention to them.
I think the guy on the right is trying WAY too hard. 🐰🎸🎵
My take is that he's taking the conversation away from the main topic instead of contributing to it!
Fat neck guitars are like those big women you bring home and marry. At first you might be a little intimidated, but then you get to know them and soon the spell is cast. Love is in the air. And you can’t live with out them.
SHE'S A BIGGUN HAHA DAYUM.
I never really thought about it when I was (a lot) younger than I am today, but when I had 5 or 6 guitars I started to notice that they all felt very different from eachother. I have somewhere between 15 and 18 guitars now and the necks are all radically different. I probably have every shape I just saw, with the exception of the v-necks. Although I did have an old 1936 (?) Kalamazoo Sportmodel with a very sharp v-neck, but the guitar didn't have strings on it, because it would be unplayable and it couldn't be fixed without having to replace almost everything.
But I WANT my guitars to all be different. That's what inspires me to pick up the guitar. Every guitar makes me want to play differently. I like that.
When i was younger i loved thinner necks, but as i get older, thinner necks hurt my hand after awhile. I don't want a giant neck, but a soft v 50's fender is my favorite. It keeps my hand from cramping when chording for extended periods of time.
Same, younger was skinny necks, now 45 my blue collar hands have taken a lot of abuse. A thicker neck to get a grip on is much more comfortable now. Less pain on old hands.
Like the deep U shape. I played a bass with a neck with the same profile as an upright bass and it was amazing. Shame almost nobody makes them.
LOVE the thin Jackson Soloist neck. I have one with the finish professionally removed to raw oiled wood. Faster than a Top Fuel dragster.
As a beginner, i got a deal on a pretty nice strat with a standard c neck, and i play it fairly well. I put it in the shop and my brother in law loaned me his tele with a u neck. Im not so sure that i dont prefer the u neck on his tele over my c neck strat. Im thinking i may have a second guitar before very long. Lol
I hate to admit this, but my shared love of the awesomely bad Lawnmower Man movie has earned you a sub.
Dude on the left is giving me good info while dude on the right keeps throwing it off and going off about other bs
I bought a Johnson acoustic in the early 2000s. You know the one..black with cream binding. Best neck I've ever played. Imagine a Wizard 2 with a drinking problem. I still dream about that guitar. Unfortunately it fell and the force of the strings split the headstock.
When people start playing guitar, neck shapes seem not to matter. I learnt to play on a strat with a U shaped neck. Then I moved to a slim C and now I have two strats, one with a compound radius and one with a 65 C. I proffer the 65 C to be fair. Thin necks are not always right for people.
We have some folks who will only play large necks and some that only play thin ones!
The only thing that matters is what *YOU* like.
I tried out several Wylde Audio guitars and I was disappointed by the California Redwood trunk sized necks. I've never played a neck so big. Just unplayable. But, Zakk is like 6'6 with gigantic hands.
Ibanez necks are wide from E to e but thin depth from the fretboard to the back of the neck. Paul Gilbert has these unnaturally long spider fingers that make you think he probably wouldn't like such a neck.
Angus Young is somewhere around 5'0 tall and legend has it that his very first SG had a nut width of only 1-1/2". Standard sized necks typically have right around 1-11/16" nut width. That's 3/8" wider than Angus' was.
My point being, you have to first get your chops up to a point where you can just feel the difference between necks.
Even core model PRS guitars can have different feeling necks even though they're supposed to be the same carve. And that's crazy to think about BC those guitars have such insanely high QC but, you can feel the difference.
Everything else on a guitar can be fixed but, the neck absolutely has to be right *for you*
Neck shape is just like anything else on the guitar... depends on the day, what you are playing and how you are feeling. Play lots of guitars, but the ones you love. It works.
"Put it in your hands first" said no lefty ever...
Preach! It’s incredibly difficult buying a guitar as a lefty. I’ve never been able to test a guitar before I bought it.
I was a Wizard neck junkie then was gifted a baseball bat Slash Firebird…odd, but started playing cool riffs and smooth bends. Now my go-to’s are a custom D Tele, a C Nashville Tele, and a rounded Gibson SG.
Epiphone’s D necks with flat back, big shoulders are the only necks I won’t touch.
Iwas wondering if there is any floyd rose equipped guitar on the market that can "compete" with the Ibanez Super Wizard HP neck Thickness:
17mm at 1F & 19mm at 12F
I have an Epiphone Casino Coupe which has a D neck. Hate the neck. Thinking of taking a sanding block to it.
Neck, shape profle and action is everything
I love love love my c neck on my jem.. due to small hands tiny n ccrooked fingers type c is perfect..
Have an old Washburn bass with the slimmest neck profile I've ever seen on a bass. I specked it vs. Warmoth profiles and it's thinner than their slim profile. The nut is 40mm which is between a classic Jazz bass and classic P bass. I find it harder to play comfortably because there's less in my hand and therefore less to press against when fretting, but it was free. Will probably be replacing with something more substantial.
My metal n hard rock style of guitars I like have all had thin necks n 1 day I picked up a guitar with a very far n very round neck and it felt absolutely perfect in my hand n I noticed I fretted chords so much better n way more accurately! I was more than shocked.. i never knew the difference. I believe it actually was a fender tele Squire for 300 bucks or so n I was so tempted to buy it. I wish I did now even thou it's a low budget guitar, it was and is the best playing n feeling guitar I've ever held. The action was insane which stunned me as well. Heck.. I could just swap out the pickups n it truly would have been a great player! I'm shopping for a fat neck les paul now n getting some info n direction.
Who do I talk to to get my 11 minutes back? You're banter is anything but witty.
The new top of the line Gibson Acoustic guitars have what they call “SlimTaper”, is this same as slim taper you are talking about? Thank you. Great video.
I had a '59 Melody Maker with a huge neck . It played and felt great .
I haven’t played in forever but i used to play a les paul special and a friend of mine gave me this old beat up ibanez and i have no idea what model it was but the neck was so thin and flat i loved playing it.
God dam this was pretty funny and educational at the same time. I was dying on his insistence on lawnmower man😂😂
..lots of really old guitars with no truss rod have the V neck design. ..which seems to be pretty effective in keeping it straight. I never had one with a bent neck. 🤷
I love kotzen telecaster neck, is that standard large C or something made for kotzen signature only ?
Great info, very very helpful.
I had no idea about the shapes of necks myself until 3 years ago. I bought a guitar with a soft V shaped neck. I didn't know what that meant and I played it for the next few months. I went back to go play one of my other guitars and was instantly like "what the hell is going on here?" I almost didn't like my other guitars and I had to get used to them again. After much Googling I discovered that the majority of my other guitars have what is called an ultra thin U shaped neck, which compared to the soft V shaped neck don't feel thin at all! The thin U's felt like railroad ties. To this day I have to play them for a bit to get used to the feel lol.
I have three favourite neck shapes. Nash S-63 Strat has that early 60’s medium thick tapering profile which I really like. Really comfotable to play. For some time I thought, that this is the only one for me. Then I found John Page’s a bit wider and thinner profile to be also very nice. One day I tried a Fender Nocaster reissue, which has that even taper inch thick neck with a 7.25 radius fingerboard. I expected it to be nearly unplayable but I loved it. I was totally surprised how comfortable it felt. Even bigger surprise was Strandberg’s crazy weird neck profile. It looks totally unplayable but feels totally playable.
Maybe the biggest factor for me is the shape of shoulders. I like them to be rounded and the fretboard edges to be rolled.
is the guy on the right on something???
Does anyone know what the Gretsch “Vintage V” neck is? I played a Brian Setzer signature and it was mindblowing. I’ve never ever played a guitar with a neck as nice as that felt and my playing was improved instantly. I’m now looking for a guitar with the same neck but not sure if it’s what would be classed as a soft or hard V? I’d love to have the same profile on my telecaster
I have two 50s Les Pauls, with 50s neck. Both are the same neck. One is a Les Paul 50s standard the other is a TV yellow 50s special. Both necks are exactly the same neck. It’s big and chunky sure, but I prefer it because of years of playing having something chunky to grab is much easier on my aging hands. I like to grab something round and girthy lol that sounds so bad.
60s slim taper....
Would all of the different neck shapes/sizes you went over apply also to acoustics? If so, what shape does Taylor use?
We will def get that in the que for video ideas!
What about acoustic necks? Martin, Taylor, Gibson?
I acquired a lovely sounding partscaster, (Telecaster) but the neck is a modern D shape, it's just too thin from the 5th fret down to the nut, I just can't get on with it, I definitely prefer an old type C neck profile.
If it's a decent guitar maker I love all sizes of necks,it did take me a few days to get used to a fat neck LP, up against my thin tapered neck LP, but I found I like them both for different reasons.
Pictures of the different necks were super helpful,thanks guitar dudes screen shot if your board losers. 🤣👍
I think one of the reasons I hate PRS is because the necks are miserable to play. The distance between the thumb and fingertips is critical for me. Some of those 90s Strats had a neck like a phone pole, which I guess is fine if you're just gonna chunk chords above the 5th fret. It just feels like lazy neck building to me.
I ordered a Tokai Love Rock and it's a 59' profile, which is a U but too thick. I have small hands and have been experiencing hand fatigue which I though might be from playing stuff off of Physical Grafitti. I grabbed my 78' LP Custom and never realized how thin and easy that neck is to play. The Tokai is an awesome sounding and playing guitar, but it's not going to be as easy to play live. I had never even considered neck shapes until now.
Why are all guitar necks wider at one end and narrower at the nut? Do you know the reason they're designed that way?
Guy on the left, when he did the Jeff Beck impression, is sounded a lot more how I would think you sound like
Dude on the right loves v-neck, gotta show off some ground meat. 🤘🏼✌🏼
I feel like you said very little about the necks, but boy would I like to have seen that dance hall. It's all candy to a kid in a candy shop. They are guitars.
Bottom line ... try out a bunch of guitars .... the one that agrees with your fretting hand the most, that is the
ideal neck shape for your hand. When I tried the Fender Player Series Telecaster, I could not believe how great that
felt in my fretting hand. Not perfect ... but so much better than the neck on my Tele. I have a 2010 Epi Dot with that
chunky D shape neck, and the shoulders are too much. I am going to be shaving them down soon. I have the Modern C
template as a reference.
There have been guitars I've borrowed from friends over the years that I could play for hours. One was a Washburn 12 string.
Such a breeze to play. My Martin D35 12 string has always been a beast ....
8:16 absolute truth ..i.m.h.o. it's actually easier even having smaller hands
I’ve been looking between the Am original 50’s Tele vs the new Broadcaster Reissue...My only concern is the radius! I don’t mind chunky necks but what worries me is the radius. I just feel awkward about calling haha! But thanks for being awesome guys!
Hey bud, thanks for watching! Don't be afraid to call, we're all more than happy to help!
I watched The Lawnmower Man, Good movie, very akin to our reality.
I have played lots of different guitars and the most comfortable has been ones with necks that are more ergonomically designed ("asymmetrical")...thicker on the bass string side and thinner on the high string side. I'm sure they are probably harder to build, but they make the most sense really. I had a old acoustic with a v neck and hated it, also had an old one with a super jumbo U style neck and that was also horrible! Talk about working to fret notes. Can you say strenuous playing and fatiguing quickly? Well those were the guitars I first played and I wanted to learn so bad that I just kept plucking away. Action was so bad, I'm talking close to 1/8' or more from the fret board in spots, but it built up my callouses fast and HARD. Sound was terrible though but I wasn't discouraged one bit, I was happy to have something to play on. Broke strings and when I wasn't able to get new ones I would re-wrap them around the ball end (if they were long enough) and re-string them. Built up strength too. But I have long since moved on to better things, but getting old has come with it! Coming from a person who struggles with Carpel tunnel and arthritis, an ergonomically designed neck is really a no-brainer! I have yet to play one with the twisted neck or tru-ergonomically designed. Check those out, you haven't even mentioned them. I think only one guy builds them right now and I remember when they came out and I'm not sure they will ever catch on? I mean they have to be a nightmare to build and keep intonated? 30+ years of playing and I am still obsessed and in love! I still keep a guitar next to my bed and she's usually the last thing I see before I sleep!
this is a great video hope they do gibson & other brands.........
The soft V is my "go to" neck.
Solid choice
Dimebag’s USA made ML’s had V profile necks which was my first ever experience with a v profile and absolutely loved it.
I got a willcut 63 fender cs stratocaster exclusive but it has a 57 soft v shape, I really like it so far. Still not sure if I like the 60s slim c or the soft v better tho. 🤔
Fender soft V is so comfy... wish it was just a smidge thicker
I've got a 79 greco stratocaster copy but it's a 4 bolt. Huge neck which it took a while to get used to.
Each guitar gets played differently but I kinda gravitate to smaller slim Cs
So a srv aint a good idea for small hands?
I have an SRV and small hands - it's tough. Probably should have bought something else.
Thin version of Mark Ruffalo and more handsome lookin Damien Haas lookin dude from Smosh doin a great conversation about guitar neck, by the way Thanks for information guys
Dude on the right gives me the creeps.
Did I miss the part where you discuss the Modern C shape - the most ubiquitous shape on strat necks made today?
Thinner better. Good test. Start out on thinner. Most don't switch
Thanks, ive been playing for over 30 years and I never really understood how to describe necks by letters
Hm. I am at the point in my guitar journey where I feel it would be natural to master the thumb over neck. But I can't seem to get it. On fret 1 to 3 I manage, but further up the neck gets too wide for my short chubby fingers. Or at least it feels that way. I've tried to change angles on the wrist, finger placement and angles but it does not come together. And not like struggling with the dreaded F chord years ago. Now I can actually feel I've reached my limits on the axes I've got. One Hagstrom Les Paul shaped student version and a Carvin Dc400 strat clone. I didn't know or even think about neck shapes before watching this video. Is there any neck shape, contour, radius or or neck width/height that might aid me in managing the thumb over neck thing? My dream is to be able to fret the E string all the way up the neck using the thumb, but also damping the A string using the thumb over technique. I am willing to part with my guitars and get another if someone can fill me in, in regards to what neck shape, contour or neck width I should look for that might give me the upper hand in regards to thumb over neck for E and A string. I've been chipping away at the thumb over neck since this winter and I just gave up last month. Half a year of failing broke my spirit and I came to terms with being a failure for the thumb over neck. Is there maybe still hope if I look for a certain neck shape or width? Cos I doubt my fingers or hand will grow longer any day soon. Any and all tips and or tricks to master this is much obliged.
Try a sharp v neck with little or no shoulders. The new Gretsch Dobros have them. Gretsch alligator and honey dipper. Can be found at guitar center
Wow guy on the left is like a crazy combination of Edward Norton and Mark Ruffalo! He would do an interesting amazing Hulk!
This is like listening to the Smothers Brothers or a David Mamet play…. and that’s not a compliment.
Thanks for sharing guys. Couldn't stay with you just too much fluff.
No we hear you, this one was way too fluffy, agreed. We have a new one were working out soon!
What neck shape is best if you have smaller hands and struggle to fret with thumb on the E wrap around Hendrix style but want to play that way with a little more ease?
I’ve heard a slim “fast” neck like Ibanez wizard is best for this scenario
As much as the profile of the neck (what you guys are talking about) might have different adherents, what about the width of the fret board? String spacing must surely be equally important. Some hardcore metal necks I've seen seem as wide as a surf board. Personally I have some minor handicaps (arthritis and nerve damage) that greatly influences the general playability of any given neck. Not to mention gloss vs satin/smooth finish.
Thumbs up, but can you do one on acoustic guitars please.
I used a Les Paul for a while and loved it but playing chords on it irritated me. Fingers always stumbled over each other. I knew where to put my fingers and do the shapes but something kept me from really giving it that proper grip. Bought a prs silver sky and omg chords are a breeze. It’s got a thick nick and slightly wider frets but the difference is night and day. Didn’t think this would make such a difference. I still have the Les Paul but I definitely play it less :( which is a shame since I did fall in love with its aesthetics. Both are great regardless.
Wow, Jonathan looks a lot younger without the beard.
I hadn’t realized Leo Fender was British!
Do we ever even mention nut width? This could have been a lot better. C-
Flat C is awesome for me. I play a lot of shreddy stuff so it’s awesome
This is so funny! Especially when Lawnmower Man comes up (c:
What would you call the profile on a current Rickenbacker 360?
"The whiff of our detritus coming out of our mouths is worse than what's happening in (the toilet)..."
You guys have inspired me to write to Google to get them to develop an AI that detects and skips unnecessary banter.
My problem is my fingers overlap strings no matter how hard I try to play a string straight on. I just want more space between the strings even if it's a little bit. Using a squire strat.
Check out Warmoth replacement necks.
vintage string spacing a bit wider but you need a neck to accommodate bends off fretboard
I love the Schecter ultra thin C shape neck. I think its perfect. But I would not recommend for beginner's. Or anyone, who doesn't mostly play lead.
Why is it that bad to hold?
@@josemolina3858 Oh no. It is very comfortable to hold. Its just, its so thin, if you grip really firmly, you can bend it a little out of pitch. If you play strictly chords, defiantly not the neck for you.
Not always too bothered about necks but PRS necks just feel wrong! I have a 2000 Strat deluxe and an 85 Ibanez Roadstar which are very different but find them easy enough to play . I played a Les Paul Studio which was too chunky for easy chord playing .
Why no diagrams for Gibson guitars or ESP,Jackson, Ibanez...?
And that guy was high as F!!!
Pleeeeeeeze stop yaking away and getting sidetracked and just tell us about the necks.
Could’ve been a better video if the dude on the right wasn’t stoned!🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Can you shared on a C shape?
The guy on the right looks unwell, maybe got a hangover? - the other guy bored the balls off me - :(
Play any guitar enough and the neck will become comfortable. Neck size doesn’t matter.
Patently untrue.
Thanks
Kids....say no to drugs
I used to love super thin necks like an ibanez or some jackson necks, then one day i was in the Hollywood guitar center. I picked up an old '55 all gold Les Paul, and it had one of the thickest necks ive ever played, but i immediately fell in love with the shape
How about 11/56 how do they feel
Dean botts they feel awesome! They are not quite as big as the 10/56 and usually are being built in the “oof center” way now. Personally, love them!
so my neck is... D flat
Can you guys edit out the useless rambling and have this video just be the useful information. The neck shape diagrams are very useful and why people click on this video. To learn about guitars, not your misdirected preference of bad club music over real musicians. How can you make a video like this and than think the audience will be with you in hating on Jeff beck. Or care about lawnmower man. I love horror movies too, but I'm looking up guitar necks at the moment.
Did this guy eventually grow a big ol beard?
Something I prefer is strap height and good posture :)