Hardtail XC Bikes Are Dead?! ☠️
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- Опубліковано 13 кві 2023
- It's been a while since we've seen XC hardtails on the cross country world cup scene, but it's no wonder because XC full-suspension bikes can way no more than a kilo more.
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The bike industry felt too guilty charging 8k for one so they concentrated on selling soft tails at 12k
Where did they go? They are literally everywhere. The most popular bike type in the world.
She means in the World Cup race scene
@@sufyanm4661yeah well this isn't the world cup.
@@strongerthanyouallday Didn't Tom Pidcock win a championship recently on a hard tail?
@@strongerthanyoualldaywhat a dumb fucking statement.
@@masoodrehman118He might have done it.
The words sus will never sound the same
😳
The lesser-known tragedy of 2020.
I'd rather have a hardtail. They're less expensive, low maintenance, lighter weight and blazing fast uphill.
Same, I am even making one lately, on a 2021 Cannondale FSi frame. I am propably overly positive about this, but I think that it is going to be under 9kg, realistically it is going to be 9.5kg. (Lefty fork and carbon wheels from the Scalpel Hi Mod from 2021/2022 are going to help me get there)
@jurekgadzinowski2895 That's a nice lightweight set-up!
I love a traditional hardtail xc rig.
I have a VERY old hardtail xc with 26 inches wheels from 2007, proud 😂
I have a 2019 Cotic BFe with 26" inches because big wheels suck
I have a 2013 old CANNONDALE FLASH CARBON. He is very nice XC Hardtail and Ballistec Hi-mod frame & headshox FATTY DLR80 is have a ultra lite weight.
So i love this 26er CANNONDALE flash ❤.
This is my first time seeing an anime style paintjob on a bike, props for finding enough space on the frame to actually show anything
I've been mountain biking since 1989. why don't we ever discuss taking weight off the body. We only talk about the bikes.
It wouldn’t be popular with the 80% of fat overweight GMBN subscribers who ride an eeeb three times a year and then brag to everyone about how outdoorsy and hardcore they are
because their job is to make you buy new stuff not lose weight ;)
Same reason ebikes have gotten so popular. The obesity rate is exploding. And it seems the population is content on blaming everyone else for their laziness.
That's because taking weight off the body is pretty obvious, tends to be a side affect of biking, and there's not much to talk about. There's a million ways or more to get the bike lighter, but only a few to get yourself lighter, and most people already know them.
Because it won't be healthy for me to lose 5kg, I'd rather do that with my lighter hardtail bike.
Hard tails used to be the way to go especially when mtb races weren't too knarly and didn't have massive jumps and were mainly based on fire roads or ground that wasn't too rough. A lot of trails with jumps are pretty horrible to ride without a full suspension bike these days
the real question is, where did doddy go ??
I love hardtail XC😥
Same for me, friend. I was thinking about maybe trying out a Gravel bike, but I can't decide. 🎉
Word.
@@Junior3zXC, maybe without front suspension, if you want to have a bike that can perform well on the flat and uphill surfaces.
@@jurekgadzinowski2895 Funny you should mention that. Was thinking about maybe rebuilding the front end on my XC with a carbon fork. Would instantly shed 1,4 kilos.
Lighter people are faster on hardtails as they roll over things much easier. Heavier people need sus to help smooth things out. Physics
“Full susses”😂😂😂
Never owned a full suspension …YET
I plan to race a Hardtail for an XC even this summer, its the only bike I can afford
Has the event happened yet? How did it go?
Simplicity is king 😊 I ❤my HT.
And no matter what, Hardtails are always going to weight much less.
Been cyclist since the late 70’s & have just retired my fully loaded BMC hard tail & literally just taken delivery of Canyon LUX..a new dawn awaits 🌞
Hello, how are you enjoying the new bike ?
I have no problem with my hardtail now.... Full suspension bikes with wider tires are not that fast.
I'm still on my Santa Cruz Highball
I had one of those. I gave it to my daughter
Full Suspension is most definitely easier to climb out here in the desert...when you have technical steep climbs, the rear suspension literally helps to provide more traction when running over rocks.
Sounds like a skill issiue. I dont think that the lack of traction is ever a problem.
@@jurekgadzinowski2895 I didn't say that it was impossible to use a hardtail out here, I certainly can make it with a hardtail....I was simply stating that full suspension bikes definitely make it a lot easier to go over a lot of the terrain out here, and it makes the ride more comfortable. Obviously someone who hasn't ridden a hardtail isn't going to be forced to learn the skills that could save their butts even on a full suspension.
@@jurekgadzinowski2895It is not a lack of skill, just pick any technical climb and try yourself with both of them... same skill, you will notice that it is easier and faster with fullsus. You don't even need a hardtail and a full sus, just lock the rear shock and try... but I assume that you don't own a fullsus if you are making this comment.
@@martinis801 It is propably easier but slower. Comfort over speed is not always a benefit, propably makes sense in XC marathons.
@@martinis801 Full sus with locked shock is worse because even carbon full sus is a kilogram heavier than a hardtail. Try to climb with a 10kg bike and a 9kg one.
The most versatile bike I own, I use mine for bikepacking, winter road; and regular mountain biking!
Just buy a full suspension with a rear shock that you can lock . Sorted
Only problem is, that adds a few pounds.
Still around 1kg heavier in the top tier bikes, and around 1.5kg heavier if we are talking about bikes under 5000$.
@@jurekgadzinowski2895do you really notice any difference if you lose or add 1kg of bodyweight? Unless you're racing/world class it's mumbo jumbo.
Hardtails are good for marathon races that involve lots of climbing. If the terrain looks a bit more like gravel, hardtails is perfect!
Rode a hardtail for over 40 years. Rode a full suspension for the past 8 years and now going back to a hardtail
At least in the first world countries hardtail Xc's are dead😢 but in my country the PHILIPPINES 🇵🇭hardtails are loved and adored 🚲🚵❤️
She means in racing world, hardtails are more common in any country for two reasons; reason one cheaper and reason two cheaper!
I’m to old to kill myself so I know what trails I ride and lighter bike the way to go!
Hardtail ist the best! 🔥😬
Ful sus
I love that
Stoked for the new Priority 600 HXT coming out with a belt drive and Pinion Smart.Shift
I think nothing has really happened to hardtails, but full suspension has just gotten so good.
Not everyone races some of just like to have fun. Full suspension generally much more expensive than hard tail. I'm not a trust fund baby or live with mom and pop so bought a nice hard tail for 1500 bucks.
It's possible to work and earn these things for yourself you know 🙄
Seems like hard tails are all the rave this year for some reason, or maybe all the full suspension bikes are all gone.
That's because people don't want to pay 5k plus for a bike that just makes the trail a little bit smmother...smoother...
@@jared8530 that’s a good point. That’s why i recommend buying used bikes that are well kept if you can’t afford a new full suspension bike. Can just throw new components on it and be almost brand new.
because riding on a supersoft couch is more fun
I went to the local bikepark on my cheapo Rockrider hardtail and easily outperformed some rich kids who couldn't corner properly. Hardtails are good for 80 percent of all trails and mountainbiking, which is all that I am looking to ride. Downhill is just way too injury-prone.
I'm rocking a hard tail. Full suspension is fun for mountain and jumping but hard tails are my jam
Depends on what competition tho. 😊
Last time i rode my hc hardtail with a guy who was on a fullsus and I did a lot less pedaling and still was faster. Cant beat a hardtail
I had the chance to either buy a cheap full sus or a quality hardtail... I decided to buy a 2021 Meta HT frame (brushed/raw aluminium) and built a burger with the lot.
Very happy with my choice, it sees black runs regularly and with a 140mm Pike Ultimate, it climbs as well as it goes down.
Would never give it up
I think I love this lassie!
im building a hardtail not for mountain biking but for speed currently my top speed is 53kmph
Bro they are on every trail
Hardtail xc is the perfect commuter bike for the rough roads of the UK
Depends on the commute 🙄
Rígidas les decimos en Latam. Una belleza. Nunca pero nunca morirán
A heavier bike will travel downhill faster than a lighter bike
I live in eastern EU, we got ZERO mountains, we do not need a full sus xc bikes, except you racing for podium
In the World Cup? Full sus is just better for technical courses. In general? They’re *everywhere*, and a lot of the time not even used for mountain biking.
How TF would hard tail die if Only Few Can afford Full Sus bikes.
I think we need to stop basing things on what World Cup racers are doing. Honestly, they are going to ride whatever their sponsors give them to ride. If a manufacturer wants them to ride their latest full suspension model, then that's what they will ride.
Most highly skilled sponsored riders I have met know very little about bikes. Ask them detailed questions and they won't know the answer. Sure, a few of them will, but most of them don't.
So we really should be talking about and marketing bikes for the average rider out there who isn't doing World Cup races.
I've never owned a full sus... did ride once about 15 years ago.😂
I'll stick to riding my rigid single speed.
I love my Rocky Mountain soul 29er
my full sus bike is a lot lighter then the hardtail i used to use
full rigid ss here
I got a hardtail❤
full sus bikes are pretty sus though (pun intended)
I’ve never owned a full sus. Only hard tail. So fun.
I have a Cotic BFE, and having a custom Marino steel 853 Reynolds built right now! All hardtails!
Steel is real!
People with low skills ride full suspensions lol.
This is interesting to me. Despite everyone claiming hardtails are more efficient I've never got on well with them. They skip and bounce over rough terrain, losing traction.
I seem to have developed a style of riding that uses the spring of the suspension, taking full advantage of the grip, especially when accelerating.
agree they're also a lot harsher on your body leading to faster fatigue
I don't like going up and down on small offroads😎 hardtail are best
I prefer the lack of faff with a hard tail, that and let's face it, full sus is are just so stupidly priced erm I could however watch Anna talking about them all day.
Hardtails will die when good budget full suspension bike start existing
That will be.........never
@@jared8530 precisely
#pinkbike
My wife just did 10 under the Ben on a hard tail.....we won our class.
I feel like full sus is safer but may rob people of skill if they only ever used them.
Hardtails are alive and well but theyre targeted for the budget friendly riders in mind. The XC style hardtails desperately need some updating as far as geometry goes but they are lighter, stronger and more compliant than ever for those long gruelling days on the saddle.
9point8 angleset can drop the hta roughly 1.5 degrees. All three of the carbon frames I've had started at 70.5 hta assuming 100mm travel. With the angleset, 120mm travel and relatively light 800g 2.6 tires, hta can go down to 67.5, which is not bad.
@@richardjensen3655 right, but the angle headset kit shouldnt be needed.. just make the headtube angle 66° and caller a day.. its what people have been asking for, for a couple years now since every other category of bikes has gotten slacker except XC hardtails 😅
Trek roscoe, specialized fuse, ibis dv9… trail hardtails have been out there but still not popular. These have HA around 66.5 degrees
@@mrmotomoto the roscoe and the fuse are not lightweight bikes by any means. Theyre built tanky because they know its meant for abuse and rough trails. Ibis does it right but I dont have any Ibis dealers within 250 miles of me..
Yeah but what good does the easier climbing when all you have to rip the dh is a xc hardtail?
I dunno she looks pretty fucking fit to me loool
Marketing.😂 Gotta differentiate so there's room for the gravel bikes. Also don't want anyone to just throw rigid forks n dropbars on the XC and see that it might make for a fine xc/gravel/roadbike. All in just one bike? No no no. Buy 3 bikes.
I've got a hard tail 😶
Everywhere... Oh racers yeah who cares what they're up to. Bum ache goooooo!
can i race enduro on my trek xcaliber 8 ?? or its impossible😂😂 whats the worst that can happens 😅😅
It will get a little rough
I'm trying to find some history on this lovely lady here, was she an ex-champion in the sport...
What is her name if someone can tell me...
Well well well, and I say this instead of saying I told ya dudes so..yep...I did.
Did ya listen to oldschool? No...ya made fun of him ridin his 26" hardtail didn't ya?
Hardtails aren’t fitting into the market segment that they used to.
Because MTB is now mainly focused on rocky, rooty descending full suss bikes are the MTB choice.
For people who just want to ride a bike with average skill level off road gravel bikes are a more efficient and more appealing choice than a draggy hardtail.
Haha I ride a single speed hard tail on some of the rowdiest trails. My times are actually faster in it than my full sus. It's lighter and more fun to huck around. My guess is riders with less technical ability fund xc full sus faster.
Real speed is a hard tail
Ok saying full sus sounds so dumb.
Why does she use Sus suspension... Is it a new brand? I'm suss.
Team hardtail because I am poor😂
Hardtail is the best!
LOL whats up with the anime paint job?
"This side of the pond" .... Alive and well?
In the bin
1st world problems
down voting the shorts
Good for you... the world needs more heroes ready to stand up to the hypocrisy of huge corporations
@@Bianchiboy Wait what did I miss?
Suspension sounds better. Sus is agenda speak.
full sus?
They are dressed in drop bars and called gravel bikes now
Full SUS ??? Hmmm that's sus
I like this bike. But I child without money for it Exceed😢. Can you present me for perspective? I will become pro rider! I swear
sussy baka???
you are not helping anybody with this
Full suses
They are DEAD
Sus=among us sussy imposter you can't say that bc you aren't playing it do you ain't a sussy therfore no sus word 😤😡🤬😠🤬😡👿
Sus
Anna only popped into my radar recently. However, now I click all her videos. 👍🏼
I love my hard tail... shame i cant ride no more :(
Why not?
Good luck finding a 27,5 hardtail...
Build one
Bruh my latest MTB purchase was a 27.5 ragley hardtail and it might be my favourite bike ever.
Lots here in 🇵🇭😉
I buit my own - commencal Meta HT with the lot.
27.5 x 2.8 and absolutely love it
Lol Hardtails are nowhere near dead, I would never give up my Nukeproof Scout hard tail, it's a beast...
The same her have a trek Roscoe with lyrik 150mm travel, carbon rims all the best and its a monster it does not care where you take it. Like you say its a beast
@@shaunschneeberger6301 oh Dude nice ride, yeah they go anywhere don't get me wrong I don't drop off cliffs or anything lmao, but it will take anything I throw at it..keep ripping it up mate... 👍👍
I don't care what people say about high quality materials and angles and all the research into bikes.........the prices are still wayyy tooooo ridiculously high !!!!! The price of a second hand golf GTi ????? And to say the engineering is of a higher level than a car is absolutely BULLSHIT. Who the foook do they think they are talking to???? You think we buy that BULLSHIT???