Part 3 - New TranzAlpine 2014 - Pass under the Southern Alps on our way to Greymouth.
Вставка
- Опубліковано 26 сер 2014
- Filmed from the drivers cab, open air observation carriage and the lineside - Part 3 takes our train under New Zealand's Southern Alps emerging from the Otira Tunnel to follow the Otira River. We then head for the West Coast passing Lake Brunner at Moana, as the vegetation changes to lush temperate rain forest.
Brilliant video Tim. The music is so relaxing and I can see the cold air as it was when I lived in NZ. A very unique view of the country I have appreciated very much. Thank you.
I find I have some time available at the moment to really enjoy seeing more of your railway videos Thank you! There is so much to enjoy here!
Tim. You are a master, your videos are great. Thank you for giving us this opportunity to enyoy the wonderful nature.......
Joan Riffot Riffot Hi Joan, your very kind comment is really appreciated.
You've got the touch. You show the intricate turns and curves of the tracks. Otira station a classic.Well done.
Thank you, I'm pleased you enjoyed it. I've spent time walking around Otira village, it's a fascinating place. I don't know if this is a true story, back in the days when the train staff happily shared tales of yesterday, one of them said the Otira pub was put up for Auction when the railway no longer needed the village to house railway workers, the guy who put in the winning bid was happy enough with his purchase only to discover he'd bought the whole village. Ripping yarn or the truth, I don't know, but I know which I prefer.
@Timsvideochannel1 I would like to go on the tranzalpine one day. I have been on the kiwirail coastal pacific to kaikoura
I WILL HAVE WATCHED ALL THREE OF THIS ROUTE THRU THE SOUTH ISLAND OF NEW ZEALAND...THANKS FOR THE GREAT TRIP!...;)
Thank you, I'm pleased you enjoyed all three parts.
Thanks Tim, I really enjoyed that. When I went on the tranz alpine quite a while ago we got off at Inchbonnie to stay at Lake Brunner Lodge - which was excellent! - and then picked up for return to Chch too. We need a statue of the guy that decided on narrow gauge for New Zealand railways so we can throw rotten fruit & veges at him!
Thank you, it's a wonderful part of the world. As for the track gauge 3 ft 6 in, it was used to keep construction costs down,although it is interesting to note NZR purchased a number of ex British rail carriages that fit the NZ loading gauge (i.e. they fit through the tunnels, bridges and stations). I am guessing you traveled in the older carriages, the new train does give a much better ride, although the driver still gets a lively ride up front. I used this link to try and find a statue to throw rotten fruit at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_ft_6_in_gauge_railways
Very nice video('s). They remember me of my year long journey throughout this beautiful country. time to come back :-) Great!!
Very well produced cab ride video. The best onr I have seen yet
Hallo Tim! Deine Bahnvideos gehören zu den Besten die ich kenne. Sie sind informativ, interessant und kurzweilig. Mit einem Wort: Hervorragend. Mit vielen grüßen aus Österreich
Alfred
This has got to be the most perfect train video ever!!
+kranercurve
Cheers, I really appreciate your comment, this is one my favourite trains routed through some of New Zealand's most spectacular scenery.
Really well put together video, man this takes me back to my time living down that way. Awesome mate.
+Helterskelter4
Cheers, your comment is appreciated.
This will be my next port of call! Great video. Sorry I missed the electrics hauling through the Otira tunnel! How long did it take them to pass through the tunnel? Great cab ride. I am an old footplate man myself. A great presentation -very well done! Thank you NZR for the opportunity!
Another great cab ride!
Hello Henry, I'm pleased you enjoyed it.
Great video. Definitely a must do when visiting New Zeland. Thanks again.
Hi Ted, riding this train is great way to see the countryside, especially from the open air carriage on a fine day.
Thanks for sharing some of the beauty of New Zealand to America. Great job from a new subscriber.
Hi Larry, thanks for subscribing, it is my pleasure to share the beauty of new Zealand with you .... Tim.
What a shame about the weather, the scenery whilst beautiful in this video is even more breathtaking on a fine day. Brought back so many memories of a wonderful few days spent around the Greymouth area a couple of months back. Seeing the Brunner Mine Site (fascinating place to visit if you ever go to NZ) and Moana/Lake Brunner again was fantastic. Never thought I'd see the Countdown supermarket at Greymouth on a UA-cam video!! Thank you for this video Tim.
Hi Pete, glad you enjoyed it. I've visited Arthur's Pass four times now, twice on the train and twice by road. On every occasion it was raining in Otira. I'll be back in New Zealand in February to film the return of the Coastal Pacific train (Picton to Christchurch), hopefully it will be running by then. I will be driving over the Pass, I might get lucky and see Otira in sunlight, I'm sure I'll find enough time to do a day return trip from Christchurch to Greymouth on the train as well. New Zealand is awesome, I can't get enough of the place. You'll find a few more videos from my various visits to NZ in this playlist - ua-cam.com/play/PLPdTWbkwx85pX8Zcf80fh3B2ggr_O_hLB.html
Lucky you Tim, I too think NZ is fantastic! After many years of wanting to go there I finally made it in February, it's an amazing country and did not disappoint. Every bit as magical as I hoped it would be. I went through the pass by road both ways, saw the TranzAlpine Christchurch bound whilst in Moana. There's a restaurant right next to the station, they served me a good lunch! Only train travel I did whilst there was in Auckland on their Metro service. Nice channel and good to see a fellow Brit enjoying travelling. All the best, Pete.
Hi Pete, I haven't ridden the new Spanish trains in Auckland yet, hopefully I will on my next visit, although I did travel over much of the Auckland network when they were still using diesels with heavily modifies ex British Rail Mk 2 carriages.
I have done this trip. Thanks for the memories . cheers
Thank you, this is one of my favourite trips.
Thank You Tim and KiwiRail !!!
Thank you and I think KiwiRail deserve a pat on the back for investing in new carriages and making this trip a really enjoyable experience.
Great viewing. I have driven this route many times and always wondered where the train had gone!
Bob Adams Hi, like yourself, I have driven the route over Arthur's Pass on a number of occasions, Route 73 follows a very different route to the train, although I would like to visit Moana one day and follow the Arnold Valley to Stillwater and onto Greymouth more or less following the railway line.
This is a big upload Tim...really excellent filming .....Best wishes...Steve.
Cheers Steve....Tim.
Very nice .Thankyou.
Thank you, I'm pleased you enjoyed it.
Gosto muito de ver e rever os novos vídeos de ferrovias da nova Zelândia gosto muito de ver o vai e vem das locomotivas e dos trens de passageiros e de cargas deste país sou filho de ferroviário meu querido pai trabalhou e aposentou se na ferrovia aqui no Brasil e eu gosto muito de ver estes vídeos por favor peso que postem mais vídeos da ferrovia da nova Zelândia obrigado
Oi, estou feliz que tenha gostado do vídeo. Aqui estão links para mais vídeos da Nova Zelândia Railway - ua-cam.com/video/90fCW05kB0E/v-deo.html - ua-cam.com/video/EqkaXqWTIV0/v-deo.html - ua-cam.com/video/WlCwXT696ag/v-deo.html
Photography was excellent, well done
Thank you, I'm pleased you enjoyed it.
I live in greymouth and have to travel down to Christchurch. I love the drive
Great place to live. I was travelling on the TranzAlpine and in the same carriage was a group of smartly dressed businessmen, who were travelling by train because there had been a problem with their flight. As the scenery became more dramatic after Springfield they really started to enjoy the trip and made their way to the viewing carriage. They had all made the trip by car or by air, but never by train, towards the end of the trip one said "I'm glad we caught the train, I've never had time to enjoy the scenery before" the others agreed and left the station at Greymouth looking happy and relaxed ready for whatever business they had made the journey for. I love the drive, but it always takes me a long time, because I can't resist taking photos a every corner, especially at sunset.
Great video, buttttttttttt, way too much rain, way too much fog , way too much mist, and way too many rock's. Thank's for sharing.
+EDDY TAYLOR
Hi Eddy, it rains most days on the West Coast of New Zealand's South Island, I've visited this area 4 times now and got soaked every time, but I still love the place, reminds me of North Wales in Britain.
IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE, AND YOUR VIDEO'S IS THE ONLY WAY I WILL EVER GET TOO SEE IT, IF I WAS'NT DISABLED I WOULD'NT BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT , SO PLEASE KEEP THE VIDEO'S COMING. YOU REALLY DO A GREAT JOB WITH THEM. THANK'S AGAIN FOR SHARING. EDDY TAYLOR GEORGIA , U.S.A.
+EDDY TAYLOR
Cheers Eddy, I really appreciate your comment and it is my pleasure to be able to share these videos with you. Best Wishes ..... Tim.
nice ride
Another great video. Out of interest, how were you able to film from the cab? Presume you got permission from KiwiRail and used a GoPro or similar? But how did you keep it powered for such a long journey (presume you wouldn’t have been allowed in the cab)? And with your external shots of the train, such as in Otira, we’re these filmed on difficult days? 🤔
Hi, this was filmed using a GoPro 3 Black edition and an external power pack. The GoPro 3 wasn't a good camera, it suffered from a jelly effect as a result of vibration when the locomotive was working hard. Today’s GoPro’s have overcome this problem. It used to be straight forward to get permission to film from the cab, today it is near impossible as I discovered on my 2019 visit when after gaining permission to film both the Coastal Pacific and the TransAlpine from the cab before I travelled from the UK, I was refused on the day by some faceless health and safety guy much to the disappointment of the marketing guy who fully realise the advertising potential of UA-cam. I’d arranged permission via a friend who worked as a Wellington suburban train driver, he had also arranged to joined me for both trips, unfortunately they were so short of drivers that they refused to allow him to use his holiday days as requested. The external shots were filmed the following day. KiwiRail has changed, no longer a friendly bunch of people happy to share their wonderful railway, sadly today they are just people doing their job with little or no passion. On my first visits to NZ to ride the Scenic trains, they were in the hands of people who really cared about the passenger experience, today passengers get in the way of an efficient train service, especially those trying to buy a coffee or a sandwich from the cafe carriage. There are still some great people working for KiwiRail, but they are not to be found in the public relations department. It’s worth speaking to Dunedin Railways or Steam Incorporated they are more likely to be helpful.
@@Timsvideochannel1 That’s useful to know. Appreciate the comprehensive response! On the upside, they do have a an image and video library which UA-camrs can access. And it must be said the onboard crew and very friendly and helpful. But yes, it’s a shame you can’t get access to the cab anymore.
@@FromtheWindowSeatMost of the railway workers I meet are nice people, it's the faceless bureaucrats who are the real problem, they were helpful when I first started visiting New Zealand. As a tourist visiting at 1 to 3 year intervals I notice the changes. New Zealand is a very difficult place to tour by rail, a camper van is the only real option unless you don't mind an organised coach tour. It is also difficult to visit the heritage railway sites because most only open one day a month. I tried to get the tour company I usually travel with to arrange a tour of NZ using various tour trains owned by societies and individuals such as Mainline Steam, Steam Incorporated, Dunedin Railways and Pahiatua Railcar Society Incorporated. They said whilst they are happy to advertise and market such a tour, it is something that really needs to be put together by a NZ travel company and marketed by specialist tour companies around the world. The numbers on such tours would also be sufficient to make it worthwhile for heritage sites to open when tours visit. This is common practice in Europe, but sadly for the moment the only NZ rail tours on offer are the three KiwiRail Scenic trains. I should also mention that the best rail adventure I've experienced in NZ is the rail-carts on the old SOL line. I love NZ, but I can’t help wondering why a government that promotes green policies is doing nothing to promote the use of the railways outside Auckland and Wellington.
@@Timsvideochannel1 Oh right. That's interesting to know. I've only been to New Zealand once (last year) and I was blown away by the scenery, so I'll definitely be back. I get what you're saying about behind-the-scenes bureaucrats, although I think that issue is a lot more widespread than KiwiRail ... you could call it the corporatisation effect. I've tried a few times to get into loco cabs but because of health and safety rules and insurance etc, it seems almost impossible. Yes, I guess the thing about New Zealand is there's a mismatch between its green credentials and what happens on the ground ... there's progress is some areas (mostly Auckland and Wellington as you say) but it's slow and inconsistent. Perhaps for me it wasn't as shocking as you, as I quickly discovered New Zealand is very much like Australia (where I live), where people and politicians are obsessed with car travel (sadly). I didn't find out about the rail-carts until I was back in Australia but that sounds like a terrific experience! I also get what you mean about the difficulties with tours ... because of the limited running days of the long-distance trains, it was quite the logistical effort planning a trip to be able to do all three, and as you say, I had to hire cars for large portions of the trip. In New Zealand, as in Australia, rail has so much potential but it's hard to get it on the political agenda. Cheers!
@@FromtheWindowSeatHello, Oz and NZ do have a lot in common, I'm glad you enjoyed visiting NZ and I'm sure you'll enjoy your next visit, especially now that you have a better idea what there is to see. Queensland Rail is one of Australia's best kept secrets, they run some wonderful trains at reasonable prices, the trouble is that outside of Australia few people are aware of trains such as the one that runs between Brisbane and Longreach. Channels like yours do more to promote train rides than the sites run by the railways themselves. I use UA-cam to get ideas when planning my own trips. I live in the UK where trains have made a big comeback as our roads become ever more overcrowded. I also travel regularly all over Europe where the history of the railways can be seen first-hand when travelling in and out of the former Communist countries, it's like time travel one moment back in the 60's, then you cross a border and you are back in the modern world. There are a number of railways in East Germany running timetabled trains 365 days a year haul by steam locomotives. Here is my New Zealand Playlist (some of the early videos were filmed before I even knew about UA-cam, hence the quality of some is a bit suspect) - ua-cam.com/play/PLPdTWbkwx85pX8Zcf80fh3B2ggr_O_hLB.html Best wishes. Tim
Parabéns por mais este filme ! Conhecer o interior de seu pais valeu a pena.Existe algo em comum entre o Brasil e a Nova Zelandia! O barulho chato dos limpadores de para brisa. Abraços
Thank you for your comment ...Tim.
WOW !!!
:-)
Noted the buses. Was this video'd in the period where passengers were not permitted through the tunnel?
Loving it, BTW.
Hi, you are right about the buses, to be honest it was a bit of a bonus going over the top instead of through the tunnel as the view was much better.I believe the reason for using buses had something to do with the usual locomotives fitted with the required apparatus to operate through the tunnel not being available....Tim.
I see what you mean about the weather but it was an enjoyable journey anyway!
+ADMIRALSCORNER
The West Coast looks the way it does because of the high rainfall.
Ótima viagem
Obrigado, estou feliz que tenha gostado do passeio.
Nice videos mate- what were the 3 locos doing at Otira (Ballast train?)
Hi, thanks for commenting. The three locos at Otira are used to bank the heavy coal trains though Otira tunnel as the gradient over this section of the route is 1 in 33.....Tim.
I like the way you have set up all 3 parts, showing all the different angles of the trip. Out of curiosity , how cold does it get up there in the Southern Alps? I guess I'll to pack my Winter coat from home if I ever plan to go to New Zealand, and take the TranzAlpine on this trip. Greetings from Southwest Iowa, USA :o)
+Larry R Wendell Jr
Hi Larry, thanks for commenting. If you do make the trip, you will need a coat if you ride the open air carriage. The temperatures are not as extreme as other mountain passes such as Donner Pass in the USA, but there is plenty of snow in winter and it can be pleasantly warm in summer.
Timsvideochannel1 Sounds great, Tim and your quite welcome! Have a good day! :o)
+Larry R Wendell Jr
Cheers Larry
Timsvideochannel1 Thank you, Tim, Cheers! :o)
Sounds like Darth Vader got on somewhere. Are you sure he wasn't the driver??
No, it was Darth Vader's day off. The air released when braking did sound like Mr Vader.
Really great cab ride/train journey with wet happy end. Lot of thanks for posting. :)
Btw 1: I watched "Driver's eye view - Highspeed TranzAlpine" before 2nd and 3rd part of "New TranzAlpine 2014". I almost did not watched entire trip. I would miss a lot of infos about a journey through great landscapes.
Btw 2: I like Alps in the rain as well as Alps at bright sunshine at both summer and snow. ;)
Btw 3: Would like if somebody post (or have a link to) train journey through white New Zeeland Alps at bright sunshine to test if they fit to "Eine Alpensinfonie" by Richard Strauß...
+pega17pl
Here's a link to Arthur's Pass in the snow - ua-cam.com/video/6acPX_00M9Q/v-deo.html
New Zealand's Southern Alps are mean, moody and magnificent, wonderful in all seasons. I'm pleased you found parts 2 & 3.
+Timsvideochannel1 - Thanks a lot for long version of this overwhelming spectacular snow plough scene! I found short version at report you posted link at your " Driver's eye view - Highspeed TranzAlpine Part 1". Thanks once more.
+pega17pl
Hi, you're welcome,the snow plough video is one of my all time favorite You Tube clips.
What is the open air observation car is that like the Canadian rockies rail tour
The open air observation carriage is great for photography, although decidedly chilly some days. I believe the Rocky Mountaineer train in Canada has a similar observation area.
@@Timsvideochannel1 Reading if you have a NZ ISP on your laptop when you book it works out cheaper
@@Backpacker1uk That's worth knowing.
I can not fathom these 23 people that disliked this video
It is the 478 who liked it that really matter.
(34:30) At Moana it's a little bit like north shore of Lake Geneva. :)
+pega17pl
There is no Chillon Castle of steamer, but I would guess the two lakes might have been very similar in the far distant past, having similar climates and vegetation. Both are wonderful places to visit.
the first real habitation since setting off here at Arthurs Pass...
Arthurs Pass and Otira existed as isolated railway communities for many years, because in the past electric locomotives were attached to take trains through the steeply graded tunnel, today specially adapted diesel locomotives do the job, with the aid of massive fans to blow the fumes out of the tunnel.
Hallo Tim, recently Eisenbahn-Romantik aired ride with TranszAlpine New Zealand. I know you posted the Matterhorn of Southern Alps at your videos, too. Think that was at visiting west coast by boat. I didn't find scenery with Matterhorn. Do you remember when and which video? (I need link to post it at Eisenbahn-Romantik video.) Thanks in advance. - Heinz
Hello Heinz, I not sure which video you are looking for. This is a link to my New Zealand videos - ua-cam.com/play/PLPdTWbkwx85pX8Zcf80fh3B2ggr_O_hLB.html
I hope this helps.
Best wishes. Tim.
Hello Tim, I have checked already your playlist but neither found Matterhorn nor any other report of west coast of South New Zealand where mountains were at rocky coast. Do you remember I was very surprised to watch suddenly at your video a mountain shaped like Matterhorn, Switzerland? I know I have commented that but which video? - Heinz
Hello Heinz, try one - ua-cam.com/video/RK7CmcUJbvQ/v-deo.html
Tanks a lot, Tim. I posted your link immediately at
ua-cam.com/video/zAAmssfqbSw/v-deo.html&feature=em-uploademail
Thanks for the link, I will enjoy watching it.
New zealand best places of tourism
New Zealand has a lot to offer tourists, amazing scenery, interesting volcanic parks. plenty of activities for adventurers and unique wild life.
Good seen but which country
New Zealand.
this video was very nice but the bit with the windshield wipers going could have maybe been edited out? thanks :)
+granskare
Hi, thanks for commenting, you have to be very lucky to cross the New Zealand Alps without encountering rain at some point.The windscreen wipers are annoying, but they did their job and kept the screen clear. I left the parts affected by them in, as I figured that those who find then annoying could always speed past those bits, and those who preferred to see the whole route, could.
narrow gauge?
1,067 mm (3 ft 6 in) gauge .... Tim.
Are overcast days the norm? Too much details are lost and thus interest to watch deminishes rapidly!
Sadly, rain on the West Coast of New Zealand is a regular occurrence, hence the wonderful rain forest.
Would love to see some coal trains climbing the steepest grade being assisted by the helpers.
Five locos at the head of a fully loaded coal train heading for the Otira tunnel is an awesome sight. This isn't one of my videos, but at around the 7 minute mark the creator does a great job of capturing the sights and sounds of one of those coal trains - ua-cam.com/video/pZAtTnI3CSo/v-deo.html
Darth Vader is the conductor... rs
9:03 The conductor is making an announcement, in this video clip we can hear Darth Vader speaking - ua-cam.com/video/KQFho0_G1VI/v-deo.html
The screen wipers made me ill. Why did you shoot during inclement weather. Thumbs down!
Alps are in Europe, please choose another name
The mountains are referred to as the Southern Alps - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Alps
Trains are boring
Oh dear, what about boats and planes?