Charles Dance discovers his Belgian origins...
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
- Actor Charles Dance has made his name playing aristocrats, including Tywin Lannister in HBO's Game of Thrones. But the upstairs world Charles inhabits on screen is nothing like his own background as his mum was an under house parlour maid. Charles wants to know if he comes from a long line of servants or if he can uncover some grander origins.
He is also determined to learn about his dad, who died when Charles was four. Charles knows hardly anything about him, not even when he was born. Charles's search for information takes him to the other side of the world to meet close relatives he never knew he had.
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Charles is a splendid character actor, Despite playing intimidating people he's pretty nice
He certainly is, easily in the top eschelons of greatest actors ever
I met the actor Ian Beatttie, who played Meryn Trant, he was a very jovial and friendly guy.
Funnily enough John of Gaunt (one of the major inspirations for Tywin Lannister) was haunted thoughout his life by a rumour that he was fathered by a Flemish butcher
I'll Watch Anything with. Charles Dance in it. He has Such Charisma that Captivates Attention.
Tywin Lannister learns about his ancestors
He's 70% Andal, 20% First Man, 10% Valyrian and 100% badass.
He's such an amazing actor! The UK and the Belgians should be proud!
The one film I always remember Charles in, from when I was a child. Is 'Last Action Hero'. I loved his portrayal of the Villain, Benedict.
How does his voice sound threatening when just talking normally.
This was very interesting.
I always thought he had the most English face since The Jewel in the Crown, while the guy in the painting looks pretty Low Lands.
Dance does not have to act at all.
He just plays himself and reads his lines.
Her ggggm looks so much to him
Belgian origins idk. Just looking at the dates , but that man lived through many countries. He was born in current day Belgium Spa. But at the time it was the Austrian Netherlands, then Napoleon took over, then it united with the Dutch and only after 1831 it would be called Belgium.
It is also noted that the Futvoye family came from the town of SPA in Belgium. They were forced to leave in 1789 due to some political uprising, that was connected to the French Revolution. The family eventually settled in Marylebone, London, England in 1791. So they moved out of the region about 40 years before the creation of Belgium.
It took until 1830 before we got our name but the people that live here have always been "Belgians".
@@flitsertheo I would say I agree with that in part. But we are not talking about other people, we are talking about this family...
Considering they left even before the Napoleonic reforms, it would be hard to say what they consider themselves as. Since we have no written record, it's hard to say otherwise. There are many people who have dual nationality in many countries, who would not state they that their place of residence or birth is their homeland.
Not only that but both the French revolution, the unification of the Netherlands and the Belgian revolution were very heavily impactful times for many groups in different time periods. A lot of people either emigrated or migrated in those periods of time. Regimes were changed, aristocracy, bureaucracy, etc. In the 40 years the family wasn't in "Belgium", their country would've changed unrecognizably. His family being a prime example. Instead of Belgian, it would've made more sense to have said he has a Walloon heritage, because that is the local culture. Since cultures, nations and nationalities are 3 different things. But they could've been emigres from France, who still considered themselves very much French. We don't know how they felt, so I think calling them something even though they never lived in a country that didn't exist at the time, would be a bit weird.
The way people thought, lived and thought about themselves as a people in a geo-political sense was way different in 1770 than it is today. And each revolution, ideas, regimes and both the idea and functioning of a state would change drastically.
Using that logic Leonardo Da Vinci was not an Italian artist, Goete not a German etc.
Sometimes countries inherit history from before their time.
In the 18th century people already started using the name Belgians for the inhabitants of the Austrian Netherlands (referring to the region, not the language), later it was still in use during the French and Dutch era.
@@gunterke Not entirely true. The term Leo Belgicus was used as a term for the entire region, including the "real" Netherlands.
Also Belgium is just the Latin version of The Netherlands...If anything Belgium was used for all inhabitants, not only for the southern provinces. The Latin name of the Austrian Netherlands was. Belgium Austriacum...
Did you know what the colony of The New Netherlands in the USA was called in Latin? Nova Belgica...
The United Provinces of the Netherlands's latin name was Belgium Foederatum. All of the Low Countries were known as Belgium/Belgica, after the split in the 16th century they referred to the south and north as Belgium Regium and Belgium Foederatum.
Ironically the Dutch have been calling themselves Belgian and Belgium, long before Belgium did/could.
Belgium usurped the name in a way. It would be the same as France splitting in 2. And 1 of both countries would still be called France.
That's what I mean. The historical use of Belgium is totally different from our current day understanding.
Not to mention the peoples the region was named after, were almost all brutally killed or deported by the Romans.
Belgium is nothing more than a geographical term for a location by the Romans where that people used to live that they exterminated. And that name was used for the entire region we know as "the low countries". Not just modern day Belgium.
The amount of people that used Belgium or Belgian as an identity in the past, before 1830, is hard to say. I could not find any clear evidence of people doing so. Given the fact that only the elite could read & write and only them could understand Latin. I'm assuming it was a thing of the elite, aristocracy and upper class. My estimate would be that people used much more local identities during those times. Linking to either their local culture/province or even city. Which is why Belgians have much more place names as a last name versus Dutch people.
Charles Dance, hear me roar.
They are people of consequence! To google I go….
Ok, that’s what I thought!
Fascinating! However, regarding the Artist's Supplies Account, I do not wish to be 'picky', but having been 'taught' Arithmetic 1950's-1960's (painfully!) 20 was a 'Score' not a 'Gross' which was 12 Dozen (a 'Grosse Douzaine' or 12 dozen = 144) so it's not an account for '2 gross dozen pencils' = 60, but 2 by 144 pencils! 'The Devil's in the detail'!
To be picky, she incorrectly said 3 gross was 60 (whereas it is actually 432).
He is the spit of his great x 4 grandmother
Nah, GGGG grandfather looks like Boris Johnson
That's why he's orange ❤
This is just propaganda to cover up the truth about what the Lannisters REALLY did. 😆
Belgium lmao😂
Fun fact: we all have 64 great great grandparents
Not all: in certain cultures, and even in England till the first half of the century, cousins marry. In those cases, you can't have 64 great great grandparents.
@@msinvincible2000 And the more generations back you go the more of these incidents will crop up, yeah. Go back a thousand years and we'd have 1-2 billion ancestors at that time otherwise - and there weren't that many humans alive at that time. :)
To think that was nearly a normal amount of kids to have those days,no wonder Europeans are being replaced. Gone from +10 kids to having 1-3 or even none at all.
Are you talking about all Europeans, or just the ones you approve of?
@@kikidevine694 All Europeans? What are you trying to say?
They always had a few "spare" ones because many children didn't live until adulthood.
@@LennyBennny Oh I know exactly what he's talking about. Some sort of garbage about Muslim and originally non-European immigrants. Drivel as always.
Not all of those survived. In grandma's family, she was born in 1929, were 4 children, of which only 2 survived to adulthood and only 1 continue the family. So more children doesn't mean all survive to continue to line.
Belgium isnt a real country
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