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  • Lesley Judd interviews Otto Frank - the father of Anne Frank - who has made a special visit to Britain to show Blue Peter viewers his daughter's original diaries. Valerie Singleton, meanwhile, reports from Anne Frank's house in Amsterdam on the story behind the diary.
    Originally broadcast 10 May, 1976.
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  • @Kirsten_is_cursed10
    @Kirsten_is_cursed10 Рік тому +6055

    I did a book report on Anne Frank back in 6th grade in 2005, and my teacher tried to tell me it was “not appropriate” for my age group. I feel that, if Anne was old enough to go through this, then we are old enough to read it.

    • @saraschneider6781
      @saraschneider6781 Рік тому +162

      I made my school librarian get it from the middle school library when I was in kindergarten.

    • @dunker982
      @dunker982 Рік тому +320

      Oh dear. Maybe your teacher needs to look for a different job.

    • @saraschneider6781
      @saraschneider6781 Рік тому +94

      @@dunker982 it honestly depends on what version was used. The unaltered version has a lot of sexual content.
      But then again The Color Purple was on the reading list for Junior year at my VERY conservative Christian high school.

    • @saraschneider6781
      @saraschneider6781 Рік тому +11

      @@sarahpersonalexcellenceguide I wouldn't call that 4th grade gifted material. More 1st-2nd.

    • @chestnut1279
      @chestnut1279 Рік тому

      @@sarahpersonalexcellenceguide I agree. And it never ceases to amaze me that the same people who fly confederate flags will tell someone their child shouldn't read the diary of Anne Frank. They're proud of a heritage of rape, abuse, murder, dog mauling, family separations, and all manner of cruelty that would make their Jesus weep, but nah, can't read about a vagina. This world is so backwards. Beware the fascist book burners. That's my prayer

  • @JoeStudd96
    @JoeStudd96 Рік тому +2119

    This man lost his wife and 2 children. To go on after that takes almighty amount of courage. I have nothing but respect for him.

    • @tarasdiary
      @tarasdiary Рік тому +39

      @@sdfghgtrew Ah yes, totally was money when Otto was planning to actually keep the diary private in the family till one of his friends convinced him it should be out there in the world.

    • @camille71999
      @camille71999 Рік тому +86

      ​@@sdfghgtrewI'm sure he would have preferred having his family back rather than being left only with the diary of his youngest daughter who died in awful circumstances.

    • @jmacjr101
      @jmacjr101 Рік тому +4

      Especially after everything that they endured!!!

    • @chiefswife1212
      @chiefswife1212 11 місяців тому +1

      You have no idea how he survived, he can read his murdered daughters words with zero emotion.

    • @SR-iy4gg
      @SR-iy4gg 11 місяців тому +27

      @@chiefswife1212 What are you trying to say?

  • @tarasdiary
    @tarasdiary Рік тому +2496

    Otto is the definition of a true father, he did everything he could to protect his family and do whatever it takes. It's so horrible that he ended up being the only survivor after all the effort he went through to keep them alive through hiding. It's no wonder Anne wrote so fondly of him, he seriously was the best father. Even after all this he did everything in his power to bring out Anne's diary to the world to let her legacy live on. This man will forever be a legend, and I hope now he's reunited with his family after he passed. God bless you, Otto.

    • @carolynrandle5454
      @carolynrandle5454 Рік тому +32

      I was🎉born in 1944 when world war was about over.i knew nothing about this but I wished I had read the book

    • @annaaagpalsa
      @annaaagpalsa Рік тому +9

      ❤❤❤

    • @bronsonmejia1794
      @bronsonmejia1794 Рік тому +23

      Margot had a diary too.

    • @lavoniaholloway1245
      @lavoniaholloway1245 Рік тому +8

      @@bronsonmejia1794 she did but wasn’t it lost?

    • @bronsonmejia1794
      @bronsonmejia1794 Рік тому +7

      @@lavoniaholloway1245 That makes sense. But Anne was the one otto spoiled.

  • @onionbubs386
    @onionbubs386 11 місяців тому +618

    I can see why Anne loved her father so much. His kind and gentle spirit is palpable, even after experiencing the most horrible nightmare imaginable. May his and his family's memories be a blessing.

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 28 днів тому +1

      He wrote her "diary" after the war.

    • @onionbubs386
      @onionbubs386 28 днів тому

      @@MarkHarrison733 gargle my load

    • @onionbubs386
      @onionbubs386 28 днів тому

      @@MarkHarrison733 gargle a fat load

    • @gumshake689
      @gumshake689 12 днів тому +4

      ​@@MarkHarrison733the voices in your head aren't trustworthy sources

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 12 днів тому +1

      @@gumshake689 Otto Frank openly confirmed it.

  • @lonniebishop9062
    @lonniebishop9062 Рік тому +2366

    Kudos to BBC Archive for preserving this powerful interview.

    • @johntomlinson6849
      @johntomlinson6849 Рік тому +24

      It was Biddy Baxter herself who demanded that thousands of BP editions weren't wiped.

    • @292Nigel
      @292Nigel Рік тому +4

      ההודעה הזו הייתה צריכה להישמר

    • @apollomemories7399
      @apollomemories7399 11 місяців тому +7

      Both Valerie Singleton and Lesley Judd were excellent presenters. So much better than today's.

    • @chrissandi9613
      @chrissandi9613 10 місяців тому +2

      @@292Nigel What on earth does this scribble signify?

    • @TigerGuy052
      @TigerGuy052 6 місяців тому

      50 percent made-up, and 50 percent complete lie

  • @livenhfree
    @livenhfree Рік тому +1133

    At 64, I have finally read the Diaries. They have had a profound impact on me. My heart goes out to this poor man, and of course to Anne. She was an exceptional young lady. Full of life, hope, positivity, and so mature for her age. And she did ultimately get her wish to be an influential writer. If only she knew. May she rest in peace. May the all rest in peace.

    • @Jay-bi8vz
      @Jay-bi8vz Рік тому +3

      Otto talking about Anne's diary:
      ua-cam.com/video/AWRBinP7ans/v-deo.html

    • @livenhfree
      @livenhfree Рік тому +1

      @@aveline2446 While that's not the point, I'll bite. So who did? And can you share your evidence?

    • @domeniclagana6660
      @domeniclagana6660 Рік тому +10

      I read the Diary at age 11, it had a profound impact on me also I am now 66.

    • @souchan6974
      @souchan6974 10 місяців тому +5

      I was 13 when I read her diary, I'm 19 now :)

    • @justsayin5609
      @justsayin5609 9 місяців тому +3

      She knows.

  • @2000sayan
    @2000sayan Рік тому +391

    Today is 30 Oct, 2022. Just yesterday, Anne's best friend Hannah died. 😥😥May be they are now together in heaven. Rest in peace Hannah Goslar. Prayers from India🇮🇳

    • @2000sayan
      @2000sayan Рік тому +2

      @@loughton57 yes...typo.. corrected

    • @carolinegodden4364
      @carolinegodden4364 Рік тому +7

      God Bless Hannah. Mat she rest in peace. Caroline x Australia 🇦🇺 STRAYA SOUTHERN Cross ➕ Southern HEMISPHERE

    • @jj-if6it
      @jj-if6it Рік тому +12

      I didn't know that. Sad, but at least she got to live a full life

    • @EmilyGloeggler7984
      @EmilyGloeggler7984 Рік тому +4

      Poor woman. I hope God lead her to the real truth before her death and saved her soul.

    • @jj-if6it
      @jj-if6it Рік тому

      @@EmilyGloeggler7984 shut up, and go away

  • @davedogge2280
    @davedogge2280 Рік тому +739

    the stress of living indoors with fear of capture outside must have been horrendous. You rarely see strong, proud and decent people like Otto on TV these days, to have lost 2 daughters and a wife in concentration camps would have wrecked all the people I know for good.

    • @alwa6954
      @alwa6954 Рік тому +53

      Yes. And having endured the concentration camp himself. It fills me with anger and resentment just to know that stuff happened never mind to have all those things happen directly to me as he did.

    • @AaronTheGreat________
      @AaronTheGreat________ Рік тому +23

      I find it hard to imagine if you saw Otto or chatted to him without knowing beforehand you wouldn’t be able to tell what he went through ❤

    • @maudeboggins9834
      @maudeboggins9834 Рік тому +23

      Different times. Otto was not the only one to have lost an entire family. He was surrounded by similar stories unfortunately. A horrible time.

    • @January.
      @January. Рік тому +3

      Absolutely agree 😢

    • @January.
      @January. Рік тому +1

      @Ellie5621 *falling in love

  • @slipnpitch1894
    @slipnpitch1894 Рік тому +844

    As a father to 2 girls the eldest being 8 who keeps a diary this has reduced me to tears. I cant imagine the suffering during that time and for her father afterwards.

    • @livenhfree
      @livenhfree Рік тому +19

      Right there with you. I finally-- at 64-- read the Diaries. Devastating.

    • @slipnpitch1894
      @slipnpitch1894 Рік тому +6

      @@livenhfree I actually rewatched this yesterday and decided I must read the diary. I also wajt to visit the house In Amsterdam this year

    • @livenhfree
      @livenhfree Рік тому +6

      @@slipnpitch1894 I think you should read it. I was thinking I'd like to visit as well. But I couldn't walk in there. Definitely not worthy, and I don't feel it would be appropriate to walk through the same rooms she did. I feel it's sacred, in a way.

    • @slipnpitch1894
      @slipnpitch1894 Рік тому +4

      @@livenhfree yes thats definitely something to consider and I suspect I will reach that conclusion also after reading the diary.

    • @Jay-bi8vz
      @Jay-bi8vz Рік тому +2

      Otto talking about Anne's diary:
      ua-cam.com/video/AWRBinP7ans/v-deo.html

  • @vlinder6329
    @vlinder6329 6 місяців тому +49

    The bookcase was made by JOHAN VOSKUIJL. He was the COUSIN of my Grandfather
    THEO VOSKUIJL.
    Johan Voskuijl's daughter, BEP VOSKUIJL, also worked there and spoke to Anne regularly. Bep Voskuijl was a second cousin of my Mother TINE VOSKUIJL.
    This Johan was very ill when he made this bookcase, Johan died a year later. Anne's Father was at his funeral. 😞
    I still have many photos of the Frank Family.
    I will never forget this history ❤️
    Love from the Netherlands 🇳🇱

    • @tearbag
      @tearbag 16 днів тому +4

      Your cousins were so brave and have my utmost admiration. I can’t imagine the fear they lived with, yet still helped the 8 in the annex have over 2 more years together 🩷

    • @jannydegraaf267
      @jannydegraaf267 День тому +1

      @vlinder6329. Bedankt voor deze toevoeging. Het verhaal van Anne Frank en haar familie en hun naasten die hielpen zullen nooit worden vergeten. Ik ben in het Anne Frank huis geweest en was erg onder de indruk van alles. Maar tegelijkertijd ook verdrietig. Mag door dat het nu een museum is geworden nooit vergeten worden. komen duizenden bezoekers daar.van over de wereld.

    • @vlinder6329
      @vlinder6329 День тому +1

      @@jannydegraaf267
      Dankjewel voor je lieve woorden. Ben zelf met mijn moeder in het Anne Frank huis geweest, was zeker indrukwekkend.
      Heb zoveel mooie dierbare documenten van mijn neef Hugo Voskuijl gekregen, ben daar heel erg dankbaar voor! Laten we nooit vergeten hoe belangrijk deze bijzondere mensen waren in de Oorlog.
      Liefs en groetjes uit Volendam ❤️

  • @mattgage377
    @mattgage377 Рік тому +564

    Reading this book is like going through a time portal she really documented life in that era so well.

    • @rwwilson21
      @rwwilson21 Рік тому +31

      what Anne really gave through her diary is perspective. And that's why I think it's an important WWII historical document.

    • @carolinegodden4364
      @carolinegodden4364 Рік тому +7

      @@rwwilson21 INDEED, she did. Plus CONTEXT, perhaps this is why her authentic writing FROM THE HEART ♥ SPEAKS TO THE HEART ♥ of all men, women and children, who read it...
      Many were PERSECUTED by the nazi regime.
      . invalids
      . the elderly
      . homosexuality
      . handicapped
      . teenagers
      . Russians
      . performer's
      A lot of Jewish people came to Australia, Melbourne has a large Jewish population.
      A lot of Nazi families came to Australia....... Crystal 🏙/The City of Churches ......
      ADELAIDE, SOUTH AUSTRALIA 🇦🇺 STRAYA, has a large German population and a very dark undercurrent.
      I wonder how the Nazi population of Australia was IN JOY, during LOCK UP AUSTRALIA.
      Dreadful unsolved crimes in Adelaide....... I think it's about time, everyday people in Adelaide dobbed these people in.

    • @jeffbuckleydisciple2013
      @jeffbuckleydisciple2013 Рік тому +8

      ​@carolinegodden4364 Wow you bought the propaganda oy vey

    • @dolinaj1
      @dolinaj1 Рік тому +1

      Always a misogynist smarta*ss in any thread.

    • @AndreaElizabeth100
      @AndreaElizabeth100 4 місяці тому

      ​@carolinegodden4364 Yes, it was totally horrific. Gypsies were persecuted too. Also, Jehovah's Witnesses and some Roman Catholics. Also, some Freemasons. Also, trade unionists. Also, some black people and mixed race. Also, people with mental illness and other disabilities. Also, some children and babies. Some Jewish Europeans left Europe for the USA and Israel. I didn't know about Australia.

  • @dannydougin3925
    @dannydougin3925 Рік тому +543

    An amazing man, Otto Frank, with an amazing daughter Anne. I am not ashamed to say as a young boy when I read the diary, that it touched me. I think of her often.

    • @ur_local_nintendo_ds
      @ur_local_nintendo_ds Рік тому +20

      It still touches me..i feel so bad for them. And this is when it was pre arranged and provides a tiny look into the Jews lives

    • @kevinprior3549
      @kevinprior3549 Рік тому +1

      Probably the most famous Jewish family ever.

    • @da90sReAlvloc
      @da90sReAlvloc Рік тому +5

      ​@@kevinprior3549 yeah cause nobody heard of the Jewish family of Jesus Mary and Joseph have they ,

    • @tanstoptips1376
      @tanstoptips1376 Рік тому +1

      ​@@da90sReAlvloc who?

    • @zach177
      @zach177 Рік тому +2

      @@kevinprior3549 I don’t know about the most famous ever but they are definitely pretty famous!

  • @56postoffice
    @56postoffice Рік тому +192

    The father of Anne Frank in the BBC studios only 46 years ago. This is an important historical document.

    • @mothermovementa
      @mothermovementa Рік тому +4

      Literally 💚

    • @lavoniaholloway1245
      @lavoniaholloway1245 Рік тому +16

      Not even just that. They listened to the BBC day in and day out on the radio when they were in Holland. For him to make it to the BBC himself, it’s almost like Anne’s soul is there in that annex, listening to her father on the radio like any other day. Just ready to scribble down in her diary how wonderful it must be to have such a father who cared so deeply for his family after so many years apart from them. If there’s an afterlife, they’re all there in their home together again. Whether that be the annex or the homes they lived in before the war, they’ve long embraced each other with their warmth

  • @keelyjwant3382
    @keelyjwant3382 9 місяців тому +101

    When children's television was at its best. Lesley Judd was so honoured to have met Otto Frank. So sad that these kinds of programs are no longer made.

    • @Robyn-by6qt
      @Robyn-by6qt 5 місяців тому +8

      The 70's was a great era for quality children's t.v in both Britain BBC and Australia ABC. Both stations produced and created some iconic T,V viewing for children back then. Unlike much of the poor ,lazy and cheap fodder kids are fed now sadly.

    • @K-a-n-d-i-s
      @K-a-n-d-i-s 4 місяці тому +1

      UA-cam is the replacement

  • @williamneale7238
    @williamneale7238 Рік тому +490

    Only Blue Peter could do something like this. Nothing glossed over, telling it completely straight to the audience.

    • @jomac2046
      @jomac2046 Рік тому +15

      Aimed at a youth audience as well.

    • @Mike-gd4zd
      @Mike-gd4zd Рік тому +17

      Now the state of blue Peter today…

    • @stuartrussell3490
      @stuartrussell3490 Рік тому +26

      The only other moment like this occurred when Nicholas Winton a British businessman who used his own money and time to get Jewish children out of Czechoslovakia before the borders closed happened in 1988 on a British consumer program called that's life. When a survivors story was told in a live audience. The presenter said "I can tell you the man sitting next to you is Nicholas Winton" and then after stating "is there anyone else in the audience who owes their life to Nicolas Winton" many survivors then adults were all sat behind and stood up. Winton who was unaware his story was part of the program tended to be moved by the moment. Still up on you tube

    • @annemadison7258
      @annemadison7258 Рік тому

      @@Mike-gd4zd So you hate Blue Petter because most of the presenters are anti Fascists

    • @BeckBeckGo
      @BeckBeckGo Рік тому +2

      She talks over him though.

  • @vanessamorenorosales1786
    @vanessamorenorosales1786 8 місяців тому +30

    The fact that the horrible events in Ann's life ONLY had happened 30 years before this interview is unreal. These horrific events really aren't that far away. I am seeing an interview in COLOR of Mr. Frank a man that lived thru such horrors.

  • @abidinginchrist3139
    @abidinginchrist3139 Рік тому +66

    She named her diary Kitty. She used to write as if she was writing A letter to her friend. I always thought that was sweet.

  • @emikiwi
    @emikiwi Рік тому +205

    As a teenage girl reading her diary 50 years after it was written, it moved me very much but also seemed in the far distant past. Strange how as you get older, the past somehow seems closer. Seeing her father "in living colour" like this on TV just six years before I was born, it hits home just how recently these horrors occurred.
    "The past is never dead. It's not even past." - William Faulkner

    • @nk8721
      @nk8721 Рік тому +6

      So so true!

    • @mariabrch8760
      @mariabrch8760 11 місяців тому +1

      Do you know from which book is that phrase of W.Faulkner's;
      I've read the "Sound and Fury",but i don't remember that quote.
      So thought provoking & true in its essence....

    • @emalynicole1006
      @emalynicole1006 15 днів тому +1

      I feel the same, I was born in 1984.. I read the diary in 1995 and it seemed like a very distant impossible past.

  • @TheJonathanNewton
    @TheJonathanNewton Рік тому +229

    Learning Dutch, I thought I’d start with Dutch literature by reading Anne Frank’s Diary. A classic, that might be easily accessible to a learner of the language, I thought, since it was penned by a young teenager?
    How very wrong I was about the latter. Her writing is brilliant, flourishing, imaginative, eloquent, blossoming to the point where I had to give up until I’d learned more Dutch so that I could follow it.
    Anne Frank wasn’t only a gifted teenage diary writer who happened to be published because of her fate. Anne Frank was a gifted *writer*, in her own right, and would have been able to become a successful author had her life not been so brutally ended by the fanatical hate that drove the Nazis to continue their war on the Jews even as the Allied forces were literally on their doorstep.
    I say this as a writer myself, a journalist since 30+ years. The world truly lost a great contributor to literature and culture by her death. How I wonder what she would have become had she been allowed to enjoy her right to life.

    • @jj-if6it
      @jj-if6it Рік тому +8

      Can I ask why you're learning Dutch? I'm half Dutch myself and my one regret in life is not being fluent, as I grew up speaking English at home, but still surrounded by it. But unlike other languages, Dutch is kinda useless, it's spoken in very few places and everyone speaks English there anyway. What are your thoughts?

    • @user-qu1yp8bh8c
      @user-qu1yp8bh8c Рік тому +8

      ​@@jj-if6it Yeah if you would go to the Netherlands most people would be able to speak English, but without speaking Dutch you'll never fully understand everything that's going on around you. In my experience, understanding a culture and becoming part of a society is not possible if you don't know the local language.
      Also, locals treat you differently (better) when they hear you speaking their language. As for Dutch it might not be spoken by billions but knowing Dutch makes it also easier to understand Afrikaans, German, Swedish, Norwegian and Danish :) And I think that it's in general nice to be able to speak at least more than one language, especially when your first one is English. But that's my experience and opinion, you might have another view on it :)

    • @xragdoll5662
      @xragdoll5662 Рік тому +4

      @@jj-if6itwhenever I plan on visiting a country that isn’t my native tongue, I always study the language for a few months even though they might speak English, I just think it’s polite but that’s just me 😊

    • @jj-if6it
      @jj-if6it Рік тому +2

      @@xragdoll5662 I've been to 25 different countries, I learn basics like hello and thank you but that's it. I studied french and Italian for four years but have forgotten most of it!

    • @jj-if6it
      @jj-if6it Рік тому +1

      @@user-qu1yp8bh8c I would love to speak my mother's native tongue but it's hard for me. When I go to Holland I say things like thank you in Dutch and people appreciate it. They think I'm dutch anyway because I'm very tall and fair, so people are nice to me and sometimes try to speak Dutch to me haha. It's a shame but I think I'm too old to learn a language I would hardly ever use or have a chance to practise

  • @junaidtipu7340
    @junaidtipu7340 Рік тому +449

    What an absolutely noble, strong, patient and just such a powerful man. As a father, I struggle to read the diaries, though I have bought my daughter the book. How Mr Frank showed strength through such rerrible grief is just beyond me. God bless him and his family and may they all RIP

    • @Jay-bi8vz
      @Jay-bi8vz Рік тому +1

      Otto talking about Anne's diary:
      ua-cam.com/video/AWRBinP7ans/v-deo.html

  • @kathrynkildow3743
    @kathrynkildow3743 Рік тому +218

    How blessed Margot and Anne were to have such a kind, wonderful father! I imagine their mother was the same. I read Anne's diary in junior high. I want to read it again. My mother and I visited their hiding place. I used to think, "What a shame she didn't get the chance to be a great writer." One day it dawned on me, she IS a great writer! After she passed on, she became world-famous and highly influential, contributing greatly to mankind. ❤

    • @Govindaclass
      @Govindaclass Рік тому +15

      Actually Anne says in her diary that she hated her mother and she never understood her. She has very strongly articulated this throughout her diary. However, she may have been just a normal anxious nagging mother for any teenage girl under normal circumstances. When you are cooped up with other people 24/7, even if it’s one’s own family, with no one or no outside place to vent your frustrations, emotions are bound to turn ugly, especially for a teenager. So i guess she may have been a normal caring mother despite how Anne portrays her as a heartless unempathetic character. Though there is no way to know for sure because it is just from Anne’s perspective, i am willing to give both of them benefit of the doubt because of the unusual circumstances!

    • @chetyoubetya8565
      @chetyoubetya8565 Рік тому +14

      Her father left out many disparaging things she wrote about her mother and the others she lived with.There is a unedited version which makes her even more human.

    • @cherrytraveller5915
      @cherrytraveller5915 Рік тому

      @@Govindaclass be honest who hasn’t a times thought that one of your parents was the enemy and you hated them. Especially during the teenage years when you’re parents are desperately trying to keep you in line. It is only with the benefit of hindsight once you’re an adult that you can see your parents meant well they just made mistakes. Anne and her mother were probably so much alike that they naturally butted heads. Bit like my mother and I. I had days I couldn’t stand the sight of her in my teens and I would write nasty stuff about her. The other thing you have to keep in mind is that a diary isn’t going to judge you. You can write all sorts of mean things and it won’t judge you for it. It is a healthy way to vent as well anyway as it stops you from saying it out loud. I imagine her mother was a nag and Anne didn’t have the patience to deal with it. Given the circumstances it was a stressful at best.

    • @tarasdiary
      @tarasdiary Рік тому +12

      @@Govindaclass I don't think Anne's mother was bad, she seemed genuine and wanted the same for Anne like Otto did. I think Anne just had a really tough bond with her due to her teenage hormones and other personal reasons, plus it's really normal for mothers and daughters to really get on each other's nerves during that time period. It was pointed out later though as Anne got older she was starting to get along with her mother better, so I am more convinced it was due to Anne growing up. She had ups and downs with the other adults too, Anne was just a teenager who was dealing with a lot mentally while growing up and felt alone - while her mother tried to also support her, Anne took it more in a harsher way than Edith meant it. Otto seemed to have been the softer parent and was Good Cop hence why Anne got along with him better.

    • @journeylvr
      @journeylvr Рік тому +6

      Amazingly, the book was on a banned book table at Barnes and Noble today. I read it repeatedly as a schoolgirl!!

  • @hilaryepstein6013
    @hilaryepstein6013 Рік тому +198

    What a clever girl Anne Frank was. One wonders what she would have done with her life had she not been murdered. A tragic loss, as they all were.

    • @philipchurchill6508
      @philipchurchill6508 Рік тому +6

      Lets hope she would have stayed in the Netherlands

    • @F5_cena
      @F5_cena Рік тому +5

      Wanted to be an actress like Jennifer tilly

    • @krashd
      @krashd Рік тому

      She wasn't murdered, at least not directly, she died of typhus before she could be taken to the gas chambers but she's still a victim of the Nazis so it's pretty much the same thing.

    • @CadeD679
      @CadeD679 Рік тому +18

      Have you ever read Tales from the Annex? It is a collection of stories and essays and other things that Anne Frank wrote while in hiding. She had a real talent. If she has lived, maybe she would have pursued writing.

    • @siobhancosgrove7277
      @siobhancosgrove7277 Рік тому +6

      Anne Frank died of Typhus in the concentration camp Bergen-Belsen

  • @a_leaf
    @a_leaf Рік тому +124

    It's very strange to see Otto Frank speak so professionally about an atrocity he personally experienced in an environment of brutal racism as if it was a cake walk for him. People were stoich those days but this man really is made of steel. I am in awe how his sanity is still in tact and he can sit through an interview.
    Even if it was 30 yrs ago for him, still it appears he does not have anger of bitterness in his heart.

    • @Jay-bi8vz
      @Jay-bi8vz Рік тому +9

      Otto talking more about Anne's diary:
      ua-cam.com/video/AWRBinP7ans/v-deo.html

    • @arizonaskies6607
      @arizonaskies6607 11 місяців тому +20

      And yet he never spoke about the suffering he endured in the concentration camp, only about Anne's diary and her legacy. A truly selfless and noble man.

    • @a_leaf
      @a_leaf 11 місяців тому +3

      @@arizonaskies6607 yes indeed

    • @arizonaskies6607
      @arizonaskies6607 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Jay-bi8vz Thank you. Enjoyed watching the video of a much younger Otto Frank speaking about his daughter Anne.

    • @generalj216
      @generalj216 27 днів тому

      Or perhaps there really is something to the ballpoint pen theory

  • @barkingtree88
    @barkingtree88 Рік тому +188

    What breaks my heart the most about this story is how loveable and funny Anne really seemed to be as a person! In life she was denied the ability to live and see what amazing things she did for the world; and if she was still among us today, she would probably still be blessing us with her writings.

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 Рік тому +1

      Her father wrote the "diary" after the war.

    • @SR-iy4gg
      @SR-iy4gg 11 місяців тому +11

      @@MarkHarrison733 Lies

    • @TheresaGraf
      @TheresaGraf 10 місяців тому +1

      @@SR-iy4gg Nope, he's partially accurate. Meyer Levin wrote the polished copy and had to sue Otto for the money promised. Meyer got $50K for his efforts.

    • @judithhickey6936
      @judithhickey6936 8 місяців тому

      No !!!. Anne wrote that diary!!!. Sick to constantly hear so called individuals disclaim or say the Holocaust never happened. It's sick and disgusting! . Not too mention insulting the 6 million that were murdered !!!!.

  • @slrs8777
    @slrs8777 Рік тому +213

    Wow this is the first time I’ve seen her father being interviewed and didn’t even know video interviews of him existed. Truly amazing and he seems like such a sweet man. I’m glad Anne’s diary helped changed lives and gave him daily inspiration as well.

  • @pumpkensdiapers1417
    @pumpkensdiapers1417 3 місяці тому +12

    Anne, Girl, if ONLY you knew the IMPACT you’ve had on SO MANY young girls! I read her diaries in class, around the same age as she, and the horror, compassion, and vividness I could feel for AND with Anne. You’ve got your wish, babe! We will NEVER forget you, sweetheart. 🙏🏻❤️💐💐💐

  • @JonathanReynolds1
    @JonathanReynolds1 7 місяців тому +7

    When Matt Lucas appeared on “Who Do You Think You Are?” he found out one of his relatives was a lodger in the Frank family’s house and was mentioned in Anne’s diary.

  • @cactusbuds2979
    @cactusbuds2979 7 місяців тому +38

    The grief he must have felt for Anne, Margo and his wife must have been tremendous. His strength is very admirable

  • @TheAllyMor
    @TheAllyMor Рік тому +138

    Wow, what a moving, poignant and respectful interview by Lesley Judd.

  • @32446
    @32446 10 місяців тому +47

    This man experienced 2 horrors of the 20th century- Trench warfare in WW1 and the holocaust. I read his biography and was impressed at his noble character and his resilience to carry on despite his utter desolation and the horrors he had witnessed.

  • @girlonabookshelf4922
    @girlonabookshelf4922 10 місяців тому +83

    Hearing Otto speak about his daughter, hearing the love and adoration absolutely breaks my heart, he lost his whole family in the most horrific of ways, I’m so glad he was able to find peace and happiness again ♥️♥️♥️

  • @billywhyte6693
    @billywhyte6693 6 місяців тому +10

    Isnt Otto just lovely.

  • @larissap6586
    @larissap6586 Рік тому +113

    I’m born in the 70’s in Canada and the Diary of Ann Frank was required reading. In the early 2000’s I had the opportunity to visit the attic and it was one of the most profound and memorable experiences I have ever had. Gratitude to Mr. Otto for sharing this tragically won gift with the world and may we never forget.

  • @WenD1908
    @WenD1908 4 місяці тому +28

    I’m so glad Mr. Frank agreed to the interview. He is such an amazing and inspirational person. To go on despite losing his family and for a time his freedom is superhuman. Bless him for sharing Anne Frank with the rest of us to celebrate her life and legacy.

  • @SaltySteff
    @SaltySteff 6 місяців тому +12

    Otto loved his little girls so much. And his beloved wife. The man lost his entire family. I can't imagine how much that destroyed him.

  • @depniff
    @depniff Рік тому +239

    Thank you BBC Archive. Hearing the story set out in a simple Blue Peter way and then the interview with Otto Frank are both more revealing than many documentaries

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 Рік тому +6

      yes i didnt expect to see an interview of her father, afterall he was already 87 by this time..ironically by the time he turned 130, the world would see Corona Virus attacks all over the world 🤔

    • @PjD-pk1fg
      @PjD-pk1fg Рік тому +12

      It was made when the BBC was making great programs. Blue Peter didn't treat it's audience as kids.
      Great archive footage.

    • @carolinegodden4364
      @carolinegodden4364 Рік тому +3

      @@fidelcatsro6948 Indeed, with THE LONGEST LOCK UP worldwide, being EPICENTRE MELBOURNE VICTORIA AUSTRALIA 🌏
      Funny that!!!

  • @marcot8799
    @marcot8799 Рік тому +34

    Every child should read Anne Frank's Diary.

    • @AvecPoesie
      @AvecPoesie Рік тому +5

      Absolutely...I came from a schooling system where we were not required to read the book. They only showed us the Black and White film. I read the Diary in my twenties! I wish I had read it at a younger age.

    • @Jay-bi8vz
      @Jay-bi8vz Рік тому +2

      I would recommend teenagers/young adults, not children. It’s too serious, and it’ll be appreciated a lot more then I feel

  •  7 місяців тому +4

    I think dear Anne is the exact symbol of freedom, love and peace.

  • @safayatkhan2280
    @safayatkhan2280 Рік тому +34

    Wow, the torture of outliving both your daughters and wife is something no man should have to go through, what a strong man.

  • @chantalsscaleisafibber
    @chantalsscaleisafibber Рік тому +69

    Mr Frank was such a lovely gentleman.After all he lived through with the camps and losing his family.The anger and hatred you would think he would have doesn't seem to be there. May all the victims rest in peace.

  • @callum110597
    @callum110597 Рік тому +61

    Nearly 80 years on, and we'll always remember Anne Frank and the memories she had. Otto should be proud to this day. 🙂😇🤝

    • @SR-iy4gg
      @SR-iy4gg 11 місяців тому

      He can't be. He's dead.

    • @callum110597
      @callum110597 11 місяців тому

      Right, I remember. But back when he was alive and up in heaven.

    • @maryblaufuss7533
      @maryblaufuss7533 8 місяців тому +1

      @@SR-iy4gg Sometimes it behooves a person to refrain from being quite so literal.

  • @mehmetdurmaz8959
    @mehmetdurmaz8959 5 місяців тому +5

    Her typ of writing was iconic.

  • @fidelcatsro6948
    @fidelcatsro6948 Рік тому +74

    Otto Frank was already 87 by time of this interview. He died in 1980 aged 91
    Queen Elizabeth born 1926
    Anne Frank born 1929
    My Grandma born in 1928
    she is 94yrs old this year🐱👍🏿

    • @philipchurchill6508
      @philipchurchill6508 Рік тому +6

      What has Queen Elizabeth got to do with this ? the bit about your grandma is fair Enough though as they were practically the same age

    • @katvtay
      @katvtay Рік тому +7

      @@philipchurchill6508 I’m more concerned they chose the name Fidel Castro as their YT name. Perhaps with this being from the BBC, and with Queen Elizabeth’s passing, they’re just putting into perspective that Anne Frank, several years younger, could still be here had she not been one of the many victims of these atrocities.
      ETA: They also show the photo of Elizabeth as a child that Anne hung up on the wall. Makes mentioning Elizabeth in the OP even more relevant.

    • @philipchurchill6508
      @philipchurchill6508 Рік тому +4

      Fidel Castro ? who gave his people decent healthcare , free education ect. ? you compare his regime to others of latin america ? compare the living standard of his country to that of others in Latin America ,yes there was no democracy , [ at a time when the USA were pouring lots of money to destroy the chances of socialists who WERE democratic ,chile , guatamala ] ,for nearly all of the time of his leadership his country was illegaly blockaded by the USA , had cuba been a democracy ,there is no way on this earth that the social benefits would have continued , no he wasn1t a saint , but I have some respect for this man , as I do not swallow all the crap about him being the worst dictator n` all as you have no doubt !

    • @philipchurchill6508
      @philipchurchill6508 Рік тому

      @UCkR3-yc1fBvzsLmsvRRXl6w Are you insane ? your having a go at me for changing the topic at hand ? , did you not say and I quote "I am more concerned that they used Fidel Castro as a YT title " clearly you have zero clue how to engage in even the most simple argument if you get bogged down at such an early stage with such basic technicalities , very , very stupid reply and ironic as it was you who in fact were guilty of the charge you tried too pin on me ! tell me then how I have got this wrong ? I would so much love to hear that fella !

    • @philipchurchill6508
      @philipchurchill6508 Рік тому

      @UCkR3-yc1fBvzsLmsvRRXl6w Are you insane ? your having a go at me for changing the topic at hand , it was in fact You who did this ,and I quote "I am more concerned that they used Fidel Castro as a yt title " , clearly you have zero clue how to engage in even the most simple argument if you get bogged down at such an early stage with such basic technicalities , very ,very stupid reply and ironic as it was you who were in fact guilty of the charge you tried to pin on me , tell me how I am wrong on this , I would love to hear that fella !

  • @moominmay
    @moominmay Рік тому +62

    What a lovely last Q to ask of Otto whether finding Anne’s diary personally gave him inspiration and courage to overcome his ordeal 🤍

  • @khfan4life365
    @khfan4life365 Рік тому +28

    For a girl of 13-15, she had great penmanship. I can’t understand the Dutch text, but I can see that she had better penmanship than most adults I know.

    • @LilyGazou
      @LilyGazou 11 місяців тому +2

      Cursive writing isn’t being taught anymore. It’s sad because it cuts people off from the past.
      Cursive has been shown to be helpful in brain development. It’s worth looking into it. And writing notes by hand helps people retain knowledge better than typing.

    • @cynthianolder3557
      @cynthianolder3557 8 місяців тому

      I read the diary, & yes, she did

    • @maryblaufuss7533
      @maryblaufuss7533 8 місяців тому +1

      There is that. I read her diary as a middle school project when I was around her age and it occurred to me that Anne appeared more articulate, more sophisticated, and better educated than I was. I wondered why. Were European schools better than American ones? Then there's the matter of Anne's innate talent.

    • @khfan4life365
      @khfan4life365 Місяць тому

      @@maryblaufuss7533schools in general had higher standards back then, even American schools. I’ve looked at old American textbooks from the 20s and 30s and middle schoolers were learning what high schoolers are learning now.

    • @maryblaufuss7533
      @maryblaufuss7533 Місяць тому

      @@khfan4life365 Because I usually think so too, I was shocked when a friend of mine told me that her 12 year-old, sixth grade remedial math level daughter was obliged to study geometry and trigonometry. WTF!!!

  • @saintdenis3238
    @saintdenis3238 4 місяці тому +5

    Otto died in 1980 glad he did this interview

  • @concerned1144
    @concerned1144 Рік тому +39

    Still breaks my heart when I hear this story. How humans can be so vicious to one another. May Anne and all who died have peace.

  • @sunnydayzie1202
    @sunnydayzie1202 9 місяців тому +26

    What awful grief and trauma this man endured in losing all his family and friends, plus his own trauma in the camp. This is what courage and love look like. He returned and was somehow able to continue on , and publish her work etc. He seems such a gentle and well spoken man. No wonder Anne loved him so

  • @sanderdeboer6034
    @sanderdeboer6034 Рік тому +72

    WOW, I have been to the ‘Achterhuis’ many times, and obviously have read the diary several times. I haven’t seen a proper interview like this with Otto before.
    I often walk or cycle past the house on the Prinsengracht and every single time I have to think of Anne and her family. And also think of the amazing helpers, especially Miep Gies.
    To be honest helped by the long queue of people visiting the house. Great to have seen this video.

  • @ebonysmith1493
    @ebonysmith1493 Рік тому +47

    He was so strong to still be standing after all he endured. I read her diary in school and was depressed for an entire week. It makes me so emotional to see this. This is why we must remember this atrocity so we don't keep repeating it ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @RogueCylon
    @RogueCylon 3 місяці тому +5

    Blue Peter was such a good program as a kid growing up.

  • @thenanlife1141
    @thenanlife1141 5 місяців тому +3

    Anne franks diary was a true inspiration to all mankind .. ❤❤

  • @ThePaleBlueDot
    @ThePaleBlueDot Рік тому +30

    I remember watching this programme when it was broadcast on the BBC. I was a month short of my 11th birthday and at school in London. I was moved by it then. Now, after all those years, and at the age of 57, I am still deeply and profoundly moved by it.

    • @gillrobertson4772
      @gillrobertson4772 Рік тому +2

      I remember it too I remembered it quite clearly but didn’t realize I was only seven.

  • @berniethebolt3007
    @berniethebolt3007 Рік тому +27

    Television for children doesn't get any better or more important than this.

  • @platome4795
    @platome4795 3 місяці тому +3

    I just visited the Anne Frank House and was deeply moved learning of the plight of her family and so many Jews. I almost could not breathe standing in her room, where she hid for 2 years. May she rest in peace ❤

  • @kateramsay8462
    @kateramsay8462 6 місяців тому +3

    He’s a rare jem . Very rare to come by

  • @alwa6954
    @alwa6954 Рік тому +71

    What a beautiful interview. Very moving to hear Mr. Frank speak about his amazing daughter and her diary.

    • @Jay-bi8vz
      @Jay-bi8vz Рік тому +4

      Otto talking more about Anne's diary:
      ua-cam.com/video/AWRBinP7ans/v-deo.html

    • @alwa6954
      @alwa6954 Рік тому +3

      @@Jay-bi8vz Thank you.

  • @charlescharliecharlotte
    @charlescharliecharlotte 8 місяців тому +4

    I read Anne Franks diary in 3rd grade and it made an lasting impression on my life. Everyone should read it.

  • @thenanlife1141
    @thenanlife1141 5 місяців тому +4

    It must have been so very hard for Anne’s father to speak about his daughters diary .. So much love to this lovely man ❤❤❤

  • @AaronTheGreat________
    @AaronTheGreat________ Рік тому +82

    Otto seemed like he was a great father ❤

    • @saraschneider6781
      @saraschneider6781 Рік тому +9

      Anne loved him so much. She didn't get along with her mother.

    • @Urcinamongurl
      @Urcinamongurl Рік тому +3

      @@saraschneider6781 doesn’t mean she didn’t love her

  • @robindew9072
    @robindew9072 Рік тому +74

    How touching and moving. So thoughtful. Otto was a very strong man. What torment he had to endure after it all. How he went on without his wife and daughters. Letting the world 🌎 know about her diary and read it. How brave. Anne Frank was an amazing girl. She had inner strength.

  • @dearestdrew
    @dearestdrew Рік тому +20

    oh he is just so lovely. it is so evident why Anne wrote so fondly of 'Pim'. very bittersweet to hear him say that he only truly came to know his daughter after her death, through her diary. such a wonderful family who did not deserve such tragedy.

  • @captainhindsight8779
    @captainhindsight8779 24 дні тому +2

    A very admirable man. Respect and RIP to all.

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 22 дні тому

      What is "admirable" about incest?

    • @DarthScott
      @DarthScott 15 днів тому

      @@MarkHarrison733 what is it with you and not providing proof?

  • @knockshinnoch1950
    @knockshinnoch1950 Рік тому +33

    This is one of those interviews that stuck with me as a kid. I can remember it as though it was yesterday. Another such interview on Blue Peter happened that same year on the 100th Anniversary of the Battle of the Little Big Horn a Native American man who witnessed the battle appeared on the programme. Incredible to think that the past is actually just within touching distance.

  • @roswithamoldenhauer7780
    @roswithamoldenhauer7780 5 місяців тому +3

    When I was 14 I received this book from my parents as a Christmas present in 1958 I also started a diary and also addressed it to ‘ dear Kitty ‘ like Anna did .

  • @LeviMatteo
    @LeviMatteo 6 місяців тому +3

    Charming man, loving father. Anna adored and admired him, and so do I

  • @katieamarshh
    @katieamarshh 20 днів тому +2

    I just went to the Anne Frank museum this past week! This place is so small, it is astonishing that they all lived in there.

  • @clipstone
    @clipstone Рік тому +25

    Lesly Judd was so delightful. She made an appearance at our local town hall at about this time. I went along after school. It was very exciting.

  • @jjf8862
    @jjf8862 5 місяців тому +3

    Mr. Frank was so brilliant and classy, what a polished man, a gentlemen. Thank you for sharing your daughter’s diary sir. May you RIP with your family members.

  • @crimsonmckenzie98
    @crimsonmckenzie98 Рік тому +10

    Wow... What an amazing girl, with an equally amazing father. ❤

  • @rigolonzinbrin
    @rigolonzinbrin Рік тому +50

    Remarkable image quality for a recording that is already 47 years old! Congratulations and thank you for this video!

    • @SR-iy4gg
      @SR-iy4gg 11 місяців тому +2

      Why? It's from the 1970s, not the 1870s! Are you 12 or something?

    • @maryblaufuss7533
      @maryblaufuss7533 8 місяців тому

      @@SR-iy4gg Video and audio recordings degrade quickly if not stored appropriately. Obviously this recording had been meticulously cared for. Simmer down, little teakettle.

  • @MrBrianNZ
    @MrBrianNZ Рік тому +10

    I first saw this interview with Mr Frank as a 16 year old in 1976. He struck me then as being a very special man. His dignity, his strength & his love stayed with me and remains to this day as does the interviews with Miep Gies, Mr Frank's Secretary that helped hide & care for those in the attic for so long. Noble & very special people..

  • @j.a.l.m.8388
    @j.a.l.m.8388 3 місяці тому +3

    What a honour ❤… I was 7 years old when I read it in Portuguese. My first book

  • @lbricks7631
    @lbricks7631 3 дні тому +1

    Otto Frank had such an amazing life. From being a German soldier in WW1, to living through the horrors of Aushwitz. He is the definition of inspiration.

  • @michaelleonardis1540
    @michaelleonardis1540 3 місяці тому +2

    I also did a report in the 6th grade, as I was reading it I began to cry , my mother came in the room and asked , what's wrong why do you cry, I showed her the book, she had never read the book , however when I told her what it was about she helped me finish the report. My mom also cried. R.I.P. mom

  • @jj-if6it
    @jj-if6it Рік тому +15

    This video is so special. I don't know if I've ever heard him speak before. What a strong and kind man

  • @gforceeatingcorrect
    @gforceeatingcorrect Рік тому +4

    What an Intelligent, Classy,docile ,sweet man ……….. for all that happened….. we will NEVER forget…….

  • @wheresthedeli8822
    @wheresthedeli8822 12 днів тому +1

    What a legend

  • @hibamishal540
    @hibamishal540 8 місяців тому +3

    In spite of everything I still believe that people are really good at heart
    Anne Frank

  • @chelee8804
    @chelee8804 7 місяців тому +4

    Anne’s legacy became his mission. What a beautiful thing to share something so personal & precious with the world. I’m glad he got to see the diary’s impact.

  • @manjitkaur2682
    @manjitkaur2682 6 місяців тому +6

    God bless Otto Frank...he was honestly an amazing man of his time and what he did for the most for his family and children. So so so resilient and highly respected. Just by his humble and kind personality, I can only imagine just how great his children were. Anne is an amazing, smart and talented individual. I am so pleased that she lives on as hope in so many people's lives. Just spectacular 💐🌹🌺🌷🪷🌺🪻🌼🥀🌸🌻💐

  • @gemstone1804
    @gemstone1804 2 місяці тому +2

    It’s such a privilege to see this video and see the annex before it was turned into a museum

  • @wilkinson8707
    @wilkinson8707 Рік тому +20

    What an incredible piece of history

  • @monnie651
    @monnie651 Рік тому +7

    He is such a gentleman

  • @mjspice100
    @mjspice100 Рік тому +10

    I remember seeing this at the time, from memory he was presented with a gold Blue Peter badge at the end of the interview..

  • @tabularasa2015
    @tabularasa2015 8 місяців тому +4

    Beautiful man.

  • @Onius
    @Onius 6 місяців тому +2

    He sound's like the world's greatest grandpa,may he and his family rest in peace...

  • @jimmymcgee4101
    @jimmymcgee4101 Рік тому +9

    The diary of Anne Frank was the first book I ever completed, it was Anne that gave me the bravery to admit to my English class that I never finished a book, the teacher made me read the book for 10 minutes at the beginning of the class, as I closed the book, I looked up and my entire class clapped for me. I vowed never to forget Anne, and I never have.

  • @ladymallowyt
    @ladymallowyt 6 місяців тому +3

    What an amazing piece of history. Well done to the bbc for keeping this interview safe and posting it on yt. Otto Frank passed away four years after this interview took place

  • @mpmattson
    @mpmattson Місяць тому +2

    Otto Frank is an easy guy to love.

  • @carriebizz
    @carriebizz Рік тому +18

    This is amazing footage. I'm Australian and I was born in 1977 a year after this aired, but I've never seen this. I've read her book. So heartbreaking

  • @trishbaum6364
    @trishbaum6364 Рік тому +23

    I love how people spoke in his time so much more proper. Anna's handwriting is beautiful and flows beautifully.
    Actually they were young when they moved there The girls had time to acclamate and make friends. There grandmother lived with them and died before the war really started. The girls did know why they were going. They knew they were going into hiding because of a summons for Margot.
    And the book case wasnt made until after their arrival.

    • @LoveDemi.XO_
      @LoveDemi.XO_ Рік тому +7

      Yes, and not interrupting him during the interview. It’s not the same now.

  • @alanknotts1844
    @alanknotts1844 Рік тому +19

    I remember watching this at the time, powerful stuff to a child

  • @ripmax333
    @ripmax333 3 місяці тому +2

    @1:55 actually that shelf was constructed after they went into the Annex using some scraps left inside Otto's warehouse, its well documented in Anne's Diary.

  • @user-eh2mi2oh4h
    @user-eh2mi2oh4h 11 місяців тому +3

    I’ve only seen film and tv portrayals of Otto Frank in my life, but it just feels so surreal to listen to his real voice.

  • @Nicole-zr1me
    @Nicole-zr1me Рік тому +7

    This interview is such a gem

  • @leannsherman6723
    @leannsherman6723 Рік тому +6

    Beautiful. So grateful that I stumbled upon this priceless interview.

  • @janeaparis
    @janeaparis Рік тому +8

    This is so wonderful, that her charm, story, and essence got to live on.

  • @libertyann439
    @libertyann439 Рік тому +6

    What an incredible interview 👏

  • @sarahnorris872
    @sarahnorris872 Рік тому +8

    He seemed like a really good man!