Why I Left ALL My Affiliated Brands (and what to know before becoming one yourself)
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- These are my honest thoughts, opinions and experiences. I tried my best to cover all of the questions I received in my stories and to discuss things that can be uncomfortable to talk about in regards to affiliations, paid content and PR. This is just a broad look of how I feel and what I think and I would like to follow this up with a video about things in makeup and with brands that have made me pull away from it.
Thank you so much to anyone who watches with an open mind and can be kind because I am not well spoken verbally. All dialogue and communication is welcome here and on all of my socials, however abusive comments will be deleted and those that might say those types of things, will be blocked.
I agree with most of what you said in this video. One thing not mentioned that id like to bring up is i would like people in the community to stop shaming others for supporting brands that some deem problematic. That doesnt make anyone want to stop supporting. People have to do things on their own time and own terms
This was an interesting comment, and one that really got me thinking. As I have stopped following all of the brand babies for certain brands. Not to shame them though, but so I can enjoy my feed again. It’s so frustrating opening my lovely page and seeing stuff I don’t want to see. And it’s not people who buy from the brands but rather those who are showing the launches. I don’t care who supports whom, but I also am not interested in that content. But everything does happen in its own time.
❤️❤️ I did appreciate your comment and it did get me thinking ❤️
This is actually a great comment to share in my next video, if you are okay with it. I can blur your info out. I feel like if I personally won’t support a brand, there is no reason to treat someone else poorly who may not know or be interested in why when they are simply trying to get enjoyment from something. I personally can’t in good conscience support some brands but I don’t feel like cancelling them is the right thing either, I genuinely wish for their growth both in business and in how they conduct it and themselves and while I feel called sometimes to share information, pushing it rudely on someone isn’t the way to be heard, though I do COMPLETELY agree with comment from @dreaming_in_multichrome below this because some things immediately make me depressed to see in my feed and I have enough of that IRL lol so I think to each their own, if not supporting or seeing a brand makes you feel better, then it is the right choice for you or if a brand/product makes you happy, who is anyone else to take that away from you. People need to agree to disagree sometimes, it is kind of like when people who are religious/not religious push their beliefs on the other like it will change their mind.
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk lol sorry for the length there.
@@jaclyntriesit yes, please feel free to use my comment ❤
I adore you. I love your transparency. I don’t mind affiliations. I know you’re honest. By the way, I’ve always said, in my opinion, you have the nicest swatches in the business.
😭🖤😭🖤😭🖤 thank you for always watching and supporting me and channel, you have made my day, thank you 🖤
One of the things that drives me crazy about some affiliates is that they don’t suggest alternatives or similar color stories. Some are really good, but most creators are truly afraid of offending the brands.
I could not agree more...I try to always list other brands using the same formula when I review those brands, but I'm sure I have forgotten at least once lol I am doing a large video that is being edited where I compare them as I declutter that I will share soon 🖤
@@jaclyntriesithave you made the video yet? I know im late 😅
You are awesome! I almost feel like when someone is becoming a "bigger" influencer, at a certain point there's a choice that needs to be made of money or morals. Youve always been honest af and i really appreciate that youre a rare one. Ugh and SAS was so gross w/ the whole doctored receipt deal ❤God bless you for mentioning the same 5 swatchers with their bs lights too, i agree sooo much! It had to be said!!
😭🖤😭🖤😭🖤 thank you so much for saying this… it is sad to know that something you genuinely worked towards won’t happen partially for that reason (partially because I’m old, sick and can’t keep up with the purchase and review cycle) but knowing that anyone else appreciated it means a lot to me and reinforces that doing the right thing matters. And I am so so so happy to know that I’m not the only one that sees and feels that way about the creators selling products as if that is how we will all see them when we get them… I just would like to transparency on photos that are of products that were being used by brands and being used to create affiliated income, all other use, I don’t care, though I think disclosing is easier.
@@jaclyntriesitYour swatches are ideal imo. The super built-up/stenciled swatches are cool, but they really tell me nothing.
Really appreciate your honestly. I don’t know a lot about the behind the scenes with these brands, but I do spend a lot of money with them, and I want that money to go to brands that deserve it and treat people properly. The whole PR machine has me really turned off already. It’s gotten ridiculous and us consumers are paying for every item that is sent, in the end. It isn’t free. It’s costing us. Even though we get no say in who gets PR and how much PR they receive. Really bummed to hear about that light and it being used for swatches. That’s ridiculous. I want to be able to trust people. I don’t get it. I don’t get it at all. Would love more videos along these lines.
I completely feel how you do, I want my money to mean something... and I hope that this will open even one brand's eyes to the possibility of having a cycle to their PR within their affiliates and treating small creators with the same respect by providing marketing materials that are safe to use with their info and also by using fair photography when it comes to products that are being sold. For someone's private page that isn't tied to a pr product or an affiliation, that's one thing, but for products that are, disclose the lighting coloring, primer and edits 🖤
I’m so glad to finally hear someone explain the SAS situation. All of a sudden I just saw that brand vague-posting about a lawsuit or something and everyone who’d recommended them to me stopped reviewing them without an explanation. So I stopped supporting because the brand owner was rubbing me the wrong way with her weird posts and tried to see if I could find anything on Reddit, but I don’t think I was typing in the correct search words 😂 The shadows are fine, it’s just so awkward having multiple palettes from a shady brand now though and I don’t feel as inspired to use them 😕
Honestly the SAS situation was sad, I wanted the owner to follow through with things and understand why what she did was wrong, but she didn’t and she didn’t change things she said she would after, but at the end of the day I genuinely don’t wish her anything bad, I just wish for honest growth, though if you ever want a big breakdown on that the rabbit hole on Reddit about them is insane.
Candor is always welcome. Do you have a list of trustworthy brands and list of brands you deem untrustworthy? I think keeping unaffiliated codes is up to you. As long as you are transparent with your viewers, no one will really care if you keep them. I've been a silent viewer but have enjoyed your content. Love your kitty!
Trustworthy as a customer or trustworthy as an affiliate and really I think the majority of my previous brands are good, but need marketing that can be used across the board so things are more even for affiliates not receiving new releases and pr, and Leo sends his love! He is being a cuddle baby right now!
@@jaclyntriesit Trustworthy as a customer. Leo is a handsome little man! I have 4 plus an outdoor one I feed. She doesn't want to come inside though it is triple digit weather. I only purchased one item from SAS. Quality was okay but I couldn't stand to purchase from them anymore after the drama that ensued. I don't purchase from Sugar Drizzle because they were hella rude.
@@jenniferfurlow1983 I am so jealous!!! I want more lol when I'm physically able to keep up with more, then I'll get them. I completely understand how you feel with your SAS purchases, it is disheartening and I am so so sorry to hear that about Sugar Drizzle 😭 sometimes I wonder if people are human and it's a bad day or if it is a pattern and an issue, and also it is hard when it is coming from a brand or their CS because is that their attitude or someone's that shouldn't be trusted. I have seen both from other brands.
Very refreshing. I used to check your reviews out here and there a while ago, so "know" you from before. Just happened to come across you again looking for whatever it was, and fell upon this excellent video. Good for you, and thanks for having some integrity and sharing your experiences and thoughts w/ us.
Dearest Jaclyn💕 my interest in makeup and especially social media has dissipated the past few years but I’m still here😊 Just wanted to say hello and let you know you’re a keeper!!! You may be a tiny creator but you’re a giant when it comes to honesty, a giant when it comes to likability, a giant when it comes to AUTHENTIC swatching (as someone else here stated “the best in the biz”) and ya, just authentic across the board really… this video was fabulous, you were exactly in your element and I enjoyed it immensely! Thank you hunny & have a fabulous day 🙏🏽xo
😭😭😭😭😭 CAMILLE! You have always been so so beyond kind to me, I can’t thank you enough for ever watching and talking to me. On my bad days, I think about people who have made all of the time I spend here worth it and you are one of the first I think of. Thank you for your kindness and I hope you are doing great and having a wonderful weekend!🖤🖤🖤
Jaclyn, I love you! You spoke so well! I’m so glad you found YOUR voice! Is such an important voice ❤️
😭😭😭 Jenn, thank you for being part of what has empowered me to cut things that don’t serve me. I’m lucky to have you guys 🖤
I feel like touch of glam treats their customers very different than their pr people. That's one brand i struggle with. I only purchased once and wouldn't again.
I can’t speak to the PR side but I had a bad experience with the owner probably about five years ago and haven’t purchased since. I would give it another try just to see if anything has changed when I’m in a different place financially, but I’m thinking about just shipping my collection for things I’m interested in now. I’m so sorry that you had that experience though, I don’t wish it on anyone.
I have never been someone whose thought having an affiliate code makes someone untrustworthy but I know many people do feel that way! I respect that you saw something was creating unnecessary stress and you cut it out of your life. That’s a hard thing to do so major props for doing it ❤
Girl thank you, I was sick over it. I really like most of the brands I have been an affiliate to and I enjoy the products, but I can do that and not have the unnecessary stress and not play the “use my affiliate money to purchase more stuff to review” game. I wasn’t getting ahead trying to stay in the loop with releases and it isn’t worth it to me anymore.
And there are definitely some people with codes that I trust, but I get why people can be hesitant.
@@jaclyntriesit I can totally see that piece of it!
@@Katelynhousemakeup me too 😓
I wish I could like this photo 1000x. Love the transparency, love the honesty, love that you're unafraid to speak the truth (it's refreshing). Personally, I would love to hear more about the colored lights and how some creators fake swatches to look better than they are. As someone who buys a lot of indie singles and multichromes and has been burned in the past by products not looking like their swatches in real life, I'd love to learn more about what to look out for so I don't waste my money and time.
The term ‘the same 5 creators’ without naming people is problematic because what you consider the same 5 people will not be the same 5 that someone else does. Look at each individual creator and see what level of detail they are disclosing about their photography and editing style. Then decide if they are worthy of your support or not.
I appreciate your point of view, I have done that and still feel the way I feel. I'm not saying these creators are bad creators or people, just that I personally feel their pictures are deceptive when being used for sale purposes by brands. For their own enjoyment and creativity is one thing, when being used on websites and storefronts without any disclaimers on it is a different story for me. You may be fine with it and that is your right. Thank you for your thoughts.
And when I'm saying same five or ten, it is because within a lot of the brands that I use, they are the same people. Listing someone to make them feel badly isn't my aim, it is to bring awareness to something that I feel is dishonest in regards to photos used for products that are being sold and there are no notations regarding the lighting colors, editing etc.
This is the best video ever! You should do "story time" of your experience as a small youtuber, the good, the bad, the ugly! It is not done before and I think a lot of us can learn a thing or two
The highlight of your video was Leo - I literally said aww and thought he was so cute! Now, back to what you said... so much to ponder and take away from this. I appreciate you addressing these things and can confirm that being a smaller content creator is definitely not easy, and you rarely, if ever, get paid. It takes a lot, and like you said, if you go viral, then people start paying attention to you. Most of the time, the brand expects you to work for free in exchange for exposure... and then they may not even share your content which genuinely sucks when you've spent so much time and effort doing your work. It really has bugged me when that has happened in the past, posting so much content and just being ignored... I've had some brands deliberately not share my UA-cam videos even though they're sharing larger content creators for launches. It is unbelievably disheartening because it makes you feel like you're somehow worth less than people with larger followings.
As for swatches, you've definitely got a point and I concur which is why I also use only white and yellow lighting or daylight if it's being done at that time (with no primer) because it doesn't make sense to show it in a way that it doesn't work... and that will breed disappointment in customers. This is also why I like to test out palettes by doing multiple looks... how else are we supposed to know how they work unless you try them multiple times? It really saddens me that brands would share a video that has barely been tested out over one that's got more detail. But that's just how the industry is. Numbers = more exposure, just something I've had to accept and get used to.
Lastly, Jaclyn, I love your swatches. They're absolutely beautiful (always) 😍
He really is the best part LOL my favorite part for sure.
I genuinely feel for small creators especially those that are affiliated and don’t receive pr for launches because without provided marketing material how can they safely share and earn. And the perpetual cycle of purchasing to review to share and then hope that others will use your code is not a way to get ahead, sadly.
And with the swatches, I only have an issue when things aren’t being disclosed on photos of products being sold by a brand or promoted or affiliated, essentially sold for someone’s benefit.
I would love to hear more of your thoughts on make up n the makeup community. Ty for your honesty. I agree with you about the same 5 ppl that they use to show swatches.I have bought singles n have been disappointed because of the swatches were misleading.
I always wanted to know what trickery was being used on swatches! Lol. Thanks! The crazy light swatches so annoying.
Between that and some suspected editing software, I am SO OVER the main popular swatchers. Show it live swatched in normal lighting and then I will eat crow, but go check out for instance the most recent swatches that Unearthly shared asking what palette it was, you can see the blue light on them.
Yes seeing this light helped me feel so much better about my swatches 😂 like it’s not me it’s my lighting lol
@@Katelynhousemakeup your swatches are awesome I love them. I also love Jaclyn’s
I know multichromes can be hard to capture on camera sometimes, but some of them are doing too much with their swatches 🙄
@@dariavision she does such great swatches! There are some truly wonderful people who are under appreciated in the community and I would love to see more of them!
Given I think you are the first one to be truly honest abour how this works says A LOT. You have had some midsized and larger creators kind of hint at it, especially if particular brands have been terrible to even their larger creators that are affiliates. But no one who still had affiliates has been willing to say this. I would live to hear your in depth thoughts on PR. I feel like it has gotten absolutely ridiculous the millions of dollars in makeup that is being wasted in PR. Because there is just no way for those creators that get a lot of it, to use it all. And it comes at the cost to the customer, period. I wish there was some regulation put in place where brands could only send a certain amount of PR, and it had to be rotated to different creators or all sizes.
The colored lighting thing is annoying. Yes I want to hear about more of your opinions!
I am so glad to know I'm not alone and I'm not the only one seeing it and it needs to end imo. 🖤🖤
This was interesting. Thank you for sharing. Can’t wait to see the private label video. That has been on my mind for awhile now.
Had never heard of the SAS thing and I’ve supported them. I do tend to not scroll much tho. I post and leave the app most of the time since I don’t have a lot of time during the week. This was a great video with great thoughts!
I also never knew about that light for swatches… I was always so confused as to why people would ask how I had prepped my arm?? “Like excuse me? I took a shower this morning! “ 😂
Thank you! I really appreciate all of the information.
I am so glad if it is helpful at all! Thank you for letting me know!
I didn’t even know colored lighting like that existed…..wow.
Absolutely and angled mirrors and layered editing…so very disappointing.
Thank you for making this video! It was very interesting and informative.
I know there’s people that feel a certain way about creators receiving PR, but I don’t like the idea of only SOME affiliates receiving PR from certain brands, while others have to pay for it. In my experience, the smaller creators always put in so much more work with those products. At least brands like Lunar Beauty just send the PR out to everyone. I’ve started paying attention to things more lately when I watch certain creators and there’s certain codes that get brought up constantly and it makes me wonder if that’s the brands expectations because with other brands they’re affiliated with they aren’t pushing as hard. I do feel the indie community has become very consumer-focused lately though and not sure if it’s just because there’s SO many launches or what.
I completely feel how you do and I hope that this will open even one brand's eyes to the possibility of having a cycle to their PR within their affiliates and treating small creators with the same respect by providing marketing materials that are safe to use with their info and also by using fair photography when it comes to products that are being sold 🖤
@@jaclyntriesit A lot of these indie palettes are up on preorder too. So by the time a smaller creator even gets one palette, the brand has announced and sent out PR for another launch and also the creator is stuck reviewing a palette that is most likely out of stock and won’t be restocked for months. I still watch the videos with no intention of ever purchasing a lot of these palettes so I can support the creators and look for inspiration, but I know some others don’t because they want to see the new new.
@@nataleen2623 you are speaking to my soul right now lol this is all true and disappointing for many affiliates. Honestly, I’m glad it isn’t a worry of mine anymore, but I feel for many of my friends that are still in that position.
@@jaclyntriesit yeah honestly it sounds like too much stress. I have breast cancer and 2 autoimmune diseases and sometimes I think about starting an IG page just to swatch my singles and shop my stash and it’s mostly so I can just TALK about makeup with others who share my interest, but just the thought of having to worry about my lighting and background setup really stresses me out. This is just my hobby and I don’t want to take away that joy. I want people to get paid, especially because creators are providing me with content, but I can see the passion has been sucked out of so many 😔
Swatchers and their bullshit fake lights…yep. 😂😂😂
I mean, I love an aesthetic swatch post BUT, when you have taken these
pictures with this set up that will NEVER be reality in the everyday of actual makeup wearing (not to mention saturating the crap out of the image)…it’s just incredibly misleading. I want to see (and create) realistic content. I’ve bought some shades after seeing one or two swatchers pictures
And was SO let down…and then I just learned not to trust their images.