Just a thought the teeth are there for a reason. If you would of used them , bit in and pulled up the saw would of cut a hell of a lot faster . just saying
Without dogging in and pulling up on the handle your not utilizing the tourqe efficiently, that test really just showed which saws had a higher chain speed.
Good video and comparison thanks! Would of been good to wear some safety gear though! Learnt my lesson, hit in the leg once from a chain coming off, thank goodness I had chaps on!
a good sharp chain should pull down the motor a bit, and I seen no signs of the saw pulling the saw to the wood, so i'd say use a better made chain, like full skip tooth chisel chain, I've ran saws for years love the stihls there is not a better saw. I've stopped using files on chain just can't get it even nor sharp enough, I have starting using a bench top Oregon chain sharpener so every tooth get sharpened perfectly and that has made a very huge difference. and I've also started buying chain by the box :) wayyyy cheaper
The amount of sawdust carried by the chain back to cutting is greater with the 660 because the tire prevents ejection. Everything should be the same when it comes to comparison.
One other thing to point out, youvhad a good thought sharpening the cahain each time you used a new saw, but you didn't touch the depth gauges or rakers as I call them. Every time you file your cutters you are changing the tooth height lower as compared to the rakers. A true test would show a newly completely sharpened chain every new saw.
Is it possible that both 066's are showing signs of getting tired (lifespan of piston rings getting up there) with their third cuts being slower than their first cuts as they got heated up? While the 660 shows it might still be well within the estimated 15 tank break in period by getting faster on the third? Stihl claims it takes about 15 tanks of fuel before their saws reach full power. I would honestly like to see the same test again, but instead use three identical brand new untouched chains (one for each saw), definitely identical mufflers because of the HUGE difference it makes, and a compression test on each saw. Maybe a cold comp, and then a hot comp immediately after each finishes the third cut. Hell I bet the 660 beats the other two by about 3 seconds with a ported muffler since it was that close with stock. Some say the 066 flat top (no decomp, metal flywheel) is .8hp more than the rest of them. The crankcases are identical, pistons, cylinder (except the oldest no comp version), coils.....everything. I think the older metal flywheel may be heavier than the arctic version, so it would run smoother at higher rpm than lighter flywheel, and hold Rev better through the cut. I'm thinking of swapping my flat top flywheel with my 660 flywheel to see if there is a noticeable difference. I'm assuming that may be the reason for the higher hp with the oldest flat top version.
+Jaq Mahogoff Your 1st cut will always be the fastest because the chain is the sharpest. Also you never cut a log the exact same way you did before. But yes, as a saw heats up it will loose some compression...that's normal. Usually if they are tired you'll feel the low compression cold or hot.
these young kids today and their crazy ideas they get in their heads I wanna see you use them saws in the field then ill give you a thumbs up I bet you guys wouldn't last in the woods with me 1 fucking hour with them saws you be tired be sitting on the ground sore lol shit man lol I love youtube
Good review. I have the 066 magnum flat top red light. Only with a 24" bar right now. And that saw screams. Kicks the dust out of my friends Husky. Damn good saws. I have a dual port muffler on mine and modified intake with HD Filter. Its a powerhouse for sure!!
I've got an old 394 I'd be willing to put money on says no 066,660,flat,round, square, rectangle or any other you can find will match...I have both brands big saws and like em all...but proofs in the puddin
I own quite A few Stihl saws along with lots of other Stihl products. With all the short cuts other manufacturers keep naking And all the junk out there, Stihl keeps making high quality products. I love how they jeep making A very high quality product. Most manufacturers make stuff cheetos save money. Stihl makes stuff quality, durable, And great , that outlast And give then A great reputation because they with no doubt are the best. I own A 066 early 2000 model. 28 And 36 inch bar. It's A beast. A little heavy , But will cut oak And hardly bog A bit. Great saw.
My 066 has been walkerized and would smoke that thing..if you dont know what walkerized means your not from British Columbia Canada and you should send your saws to them
Judging by how easy he started that flat top I'm guessing its low on compression. You would never start my 064 like that and it doesnt have a decomp either
+Daniel Stevens I buy high quality aftermarket parts from china that fit the 066 and I can say with my experience with the parts they are close as far as quality goes to the German maid parts except the parts are less than half the price. China does have a bad rep for making junk but they can and do make good quality products But yea they do make junk products also.
@Verne Dimatteo I agree 100% the problem is i could not make any money working my ass off paying for permits wear and tear taxes gas oil then inflated saw part prices we compete with natural gas coal uranium etc when cutting fire wood and when cutting posts we compete with all other fencing options for me it's a side job I build houses full time and get fire wood and cedar posts to invest and try to get ahead I support America but I'm trying to get above the debt its important for people to be in debt and add debt after all debt is money and it keeps people going to work to pay Thayer mortgages etc and as they work they are making goods or doing services for society that is what gives debt money value. We have the monetary system now and fiate money it is backed by debt look it up we no longer have the gold standard 1933 the gold standard ended so did the great depression we might be headed for another depression only time will tell.
great video, but I think your chain was at fault, try some chisel skip tooth chain, a good sharp chain will make long strings for cuttings, all I seen was dust & very small cuttings.
I paid 650 $ for lightly used ms 660 magnum is that a fair deal?
not bad as long as you like it u would pay that for a nice one
Is it a knock off.
Stay with the flat top buddy hands down big bore kit av gas and all that money for nothing
Buy three brand new chains and then do the test. 2 tiny runs with a file isn't going to sharpen a chain at all....this whole experiment is blotched
Just a thought the teeth are there for a reason. If you would of used them , bit in and pulled up the saw would of cut a hell of a lot faster . just saying
Ellis Gibson that raises too many variable.
ontarioknivesNS7 just watch the tip and listen to your rpm it’s easy as pie
Oldie but good video!👍
Thanks!
Without dogging in and pulling up on the handle your not utilizing the tourqe efficiently, that test really just showed which saws had a higher chain speed.
Whats wrong with that. People do care about chain speed
Good video and comparison thanks! Would of been good to wear some safety gear though! Learnt my lesson, hit in the leg once from a chain coming off, thank goodness I had chaps on!
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Well they don’t make em like the used to
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a good sharp chain should pull down the motor a bit, and I seen no signs of the saw pulling the saw to the wood, so i'd say use a better made chain, like full skip tooth chisel chain, I've ran saws for years love the stihls there is not a better saw. I've stopped using files on chain just can't get it even nor sharp enough, I have starting using a bench top Oregon chain sharpener so every tooth get sharpened perfectly and that has made a very huge difference. and I've also started buying chain by the box :) wayyyy cheaper
if you cant get is sharp your doing it wrong!!
You obviously suck at hand filing because you can get a much better finish with a hand file.
The amount of sawdust carried by the chain back to cutting is greater with the 660 because the tire prevents ejection. Everything should be the same when it comes to comparison.
One other thing to point out, youvhad a good thought sharpening the cahain each time you used a new saw, but you didn't touch the depth gauges or rakers as I call them. Every time you file your cutters you are changing the tooth height lower as compared to the rakers. A true test would show a newly completely sharpened chain every new saw.
Very good point.
Is it possible that both 066's are showing signs of getting tired (lifespan of piston rings getting up there) with their third cuts being slower than their first cuts as they got heated up? While the 660 shows it might still be well within the estimated 15 tank break in period by getting faster on the third? Stihl claims it takes about 15 tanks of fuel before their saws reach full power.
I would honestly like to see the same test again, but instead use three identical brand new untouched chains (one for each saw), definitely identical mufflers because of the HUGE difference it makes, and a compression test on each saw. Maybe a cold comp, and then a hot comp immediately after each finishes the third cut. Hell I bet the 660 beats the other two by about 3 seconds with a ported muffler since it was that close with stock.
Some say the 066 flat top (no decomp, metal flywheel) is .8hp more than the rest of them. The crankcases are identical, pistons, cylinder (except the oldest no comp version), coils.....everything. I think the older metal flywheel may be heavier than the arctic version, so it would run smoother at higher rpm than lighter flywheel, and hold Rev better through the cut. I'm thinking of swapping my flat top flywheel with my 660 flywheel to see if there is a noticeable difference. I'm assuming that may be the reason for the higher hp with the oldest flat top version.
+Jaq Mahogoff Your 1st cut will always be the fastest because the chain is the sharpest. Also you never cut a log the exact same way you did before. But yes, as a saw heats up it will loose some compression...that's normal. Usually if they are tired you'll feel the low compression cold or hot.
I grab the 066 flat top because it has a ton of power and it's impossible to damage!
I think you could go down on your rakers with those first 2 im sure it would be alot faster even with a little les Rpms
these young kids today and their crazy ideas they get in their heads I wanna see you use them saws in the field then ill give you a thumbs up I bet you guys wouldn't last in the woods with me 1 fucking hour with them saws you be tired be sitting on the ground sore lol shit man lol I love youtube
Steve Wrightington Thank you for your thoughts.
guy in the red shirt gets the bar in the ground
Good review. I have the 066 magnum flat top red light. Only with a 24" bar right now. And that saw screams. Kicks the dust out of my friends Husky. Damn good saws. I have a dual port muffler on mine and modified intake with HD Filter. Its a powerhouse for sure!!
I've got an old 394 I'd be willing to put money on says no 066,660,flat,round, square, rectangle or any other you can find will match...I have both brands big
saws and like em all...but proofs in the puddin
@@arborist460 Iv'e got a McCulloch that will out cut both of em.
Well done sir
Thank you!
I own quite A few Stihl saws along with lots of other Stihl products. With all the short cuts other manufacturers keep naking And all the junk out there, Stihl keeps making high quality products. I love how they jeep making A very high quality product. Most manufacturers make stuff cheetos save money. Stihl makes stuff quality, durable, And great , that outlast And give then A great reputation because they with no doubt are the best. I own A 066 early 2000 model. 28 And 36 inch bar. It's A beast. A little heavy , But will cut oak And hardly bog A bit. Great saw.
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I use my older model 056 witch has enough power to run my 36 inch bar.
I have an 045 Super, 56 Super, 056 Magnum 2, an 066 and a 660. I find myself grabbing the 045 and 056 more than the new saws!
fun video. i am surprised how close stock was to the modified saws on high octane fuel.
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damn my stock 044 cuts better than that that 066 must have a case of the flu...
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i just bought a used 660, i cant wait to try out a 'big boy saw'.
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making dinner plates ?
Still ms 066 kiler...!!!
066 flat top is my favorite.
My 066 has been walkerized and would smoke that thing..if you dont know what walkerized means your not from British Columbia Canada and you should send your saws to them
I’m interested. How much does it cost ? Do they have a website?
@Jonathanvogtgrippler nice fart at the end lol.
tout ca pour ca
😊
Get that muffler opened up on the 660. Almost 3/4hp gain
A part of me wants to modify the 660 but I'm still keeping it as my stock saw in case my flat top gives up on me.
Still in the GRIP Game? Comeback?
Marco Buhl I just figured out my password again so I will have to post some videos !
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both of me did really
where are your earmuffs/chaps/visor dude?!!
The same place you left you manhood and common sense troll.
This sting dont up
i paid 400$ for used 066.is a good condition.is a fair deal?
EL SI yes it is, as long as it runs strong
Judging by how easy he started that flat top I'm guessing its low on compression. You would never start my 064 like that and it doesnt have a decomp either
My 064 ain't for rookies either
Harry Rambo it pulls just a easy as the brand new 660 did and runs better. I will check the compression and see what the actual result is.
@@BuzzWorthyLife Great saw either way, enjoyed the video
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Ending... :) Cool LOL
Had to watch ending again... Still laughing :) To cool.. Made my day. Cheers.
suggestion- use a full skip rs chain fat boy thatll keep the rpm range up and no bog...LMFAO
too bad i can afford Made in China only chainsaw...
888FOAD dont support chinese made products!
888FOAD Stihl is not a China made saw, its german
Daniel Stevens please re-read his comment. he was implying he cant afford a stihl, only a chinese made chainsaw
+Daniel Stevens I buy high quality aftermarket parts from china that fit the 066 and I can say with my experience with the parts they are close as far as quality goes to the German maid parts except the parts are less than half the price. China does have a bad rep for making junk but they can and do make good quality products But yea they do make junk products also.
@Verne Dimatteo I agree 100% the problem is i could not make any money working my ass off paying for permits wear and tear taxes gas oil then inflated saw part prices we compete with natural gas coal uranium etc when cutting fire wood and when cutting posts we compete with all other fencing options for me it's a side job I build houses full time and get fire wood and cedar posts to invest and try to get ahead I support America but I'm trying to get above the debt its important for people to be in debt and add debt after all debt is money and it keeps people going to work to pay Thayer mortgages etc and as they work they are making goods or doing services for society that is what gives debt money value. We have the monetary system now and fiate money it is backed by debt look it up we no longer have the gold standard 1933 the gold standard ended so did the great depression we might be headed for another depression only time will tell.
my old homelite super xl auto would smoke all three of them stilhs and its 40yrs old
great video, but I think your chain was at fault, try some chisel skip tooth chain, a good sharp chain will make long strings for cuttings, all I seen was dust & very small cuttings.
do you think a stock 066 in good condition is worth 900$?