I haven't upgraded my two computers in years (10700k & 980ti / 6700k & 970) but I still watch your channel to keep up with hardware. No crazy clickbait, just informative and well-researched reviews with nice humor and practical takeaways. Maybe retrospectively review some older cards or CPUs? Keep up the great content, Laurent.
HI SEEN FULL VIDEO AND PLS SAY for I7 13700K, 4070 super. Is motherboard msi pro z790a max wifi enough for it or should i go with msi mag z790 tomahawk max wifi.
Should I go with the ASUS TUF Gaming X670E or the ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-F ? Im planning on building with an Ryzen 9 7950x3d and an RTX 4080 Super. im also open for any new recommendations, the only criterias are, at least a bit rgb, it should be black, ATX and it should be not more expensive than the other two.
Helloo!, I need help, I do live streams on Twitch and I mainly dedicate myself to gaming, which motherboard do you recommend with a budget of €330? Right now i have i5 12400F, and 32 Gb de Ram DDR5 and RTX 3060
HI SEEN FULL VIDEO AND PLS SAY for I7 13700K, 4070 super. Is motherboard msi pro z790a max wifi enough for it or should i go with msi mag z790 tomahawk max wifi 😊
Would you please review the GIGABYTE B650M AORUS Elite AX and how well it works for gaming, productivity, etc looking at 8000 and upcoming 9000 cpus please.
I bought a zMAX bored as well the 80 mg is nice and if you're running 11 fans if you're running an air-cooled model it does help it has lots of different connection ports in the two PCI You can turn the low frequency PCI slots into USB slots So you can give yourself more USB slots for like your mouse your keyboard steering wheel if you're doing stuff like that So they've really just depends on what you're really wanting to do But the one is actually eight gig and the one below it I believe is four gig..
HI PLS SAY for I7 13700K, 4070 super. Is motherboard msi pro z790a max wifi enough for it or should i go with msi mag z790 tomahawk MAX wifi. Say me pls
I am saving for a pc build it has Primary gpu: Rtx 4070 super Secondary gpu: Intel arc a 380 Ram: 32gb ram 5600mhz Primary storage: 1tb nvme ssd Secondary storage: 2 tb ssd Case: Evetech onyx case Kratos gamadias 750w Os: Windows 10 pro Cpu: Intel core I5 14400f Motherboard: msi pro z790-a max wifi
think about upgrading your PSU bro, 750W is enough to run on for this build, yes. but the less capacity of your PSU you use will increase the lifespan and energy efficiency :)
Yeah, the AORUS ELITE X is miles ahead! Nothing can dethrone that one (or maybe the TOMAHAWK MAX I am filming today.. that one will give it a run for its money!)
@@Laurentschoice I think the way the motherboard's USB ports are designed is also very important. Personally I believe that MSI is not steel clear on how the USB's port bus should be better designed, I think there are some old knots that have not yet been resolved. I have many different brands motherboards on hand... but when I use the USB ports on the MSI boards (more than one port) I always have .....a headache. 😂
Liked your video, there's pros and cons about the info status and connectivity that open my eyes to another choices, 20 bucks here and there, take off wasted connectors and voila, could've done a better job, thanks!
This board has one possible advantage over the high-end MAG Tomahawk MAX WiFi: On the MAG, if you put an NVMe into the primary slot next to the CPU, your GPU PCIe link will be cut from 16x to 8x. This is due to the implementation of PCIe Gen 5 on that NVMe slot. There's NO way around this except to not install an SSD there. Any SSD installed there, even if it's only a 4.0 or 3.0 device, will nerf your GPU link. This is not MSI's fault, it's a limitation of the number of PCIe 5.0 lanes available on this platform generation. PCIe gen 5 drives have their issues, but are becoming more relevant. Degraded GPU link brings perhaps a few percent framerate costs. Ultimately it's up to you to decide where you prefer to compromise, but realize that if you do get a board with 5.0 NVMe slot, and you want to use all four slots, that choice is made for you. Me, I run the PRO MAX with all four slots populated with Gen 4 NVMe (three of these in RAID) and my GPU at full 16X link. This configuration would not be possible on the Tomahawk.
So I can go fully decided to buy a MSI PRO Z790-A MAX than the MAG Tomahawk.. it's more cheaper and I can fully use all NVMe slots without the PCI link issue??
I have this motherboard and still there's no update to address issues with intel's microcode. I use my backup PC to keep my i5 14600K from degradation because I'm not in the mood to swich my entire platform to AMD because my CPU may eventually die because of intel's failure. I would never ever choose a MSI board. I regret i didn't go to an ASUS motherboard, mainly because of lack of updates for the last few months.
HI PLS SAY, Does even msi mag z790 tomahwak max wifi have any problems with i7 13700k build or should I go with this mother board msi pro z790 a max motherboard
HI PLS SAY, Does even msi mag z790 tomahwak max wifi have any problems with i7 13700k build or should I go with this mother board msi pro z790 a max motherboard 😮
I have a MSI Z790 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI keeping unused over 3 months, because of Intel 13/14 crash issue, finally I found the i5-13500 may be safe, because of it's L2 cache is the same with Alder-lake, this brings another issue to me, I hope I can have the most option in my z790 motherboard bios... so I still haven't buy my CPU....
@@Laurentschoice Buying i5-13500 is very simple. As long as I buy it, I don't need to worry about the CPU being burned out. But at this time, my mental state is in an unsatisfied state. I want to have the most bios options once I buy i5-13500. If Intel or MSI release a complete solution to the Raptor-lake K version processor, I will have to sell the existing i5-13500 processor and buy an i7-14700K (I think this model has the same VRM capacity as TOMAHAWK Comparable match) The reality is that Intel cannot solve the problem and let the motherboard factory guys admit the harm from the end users and want a smooth transition to the next processor generation. This puts me in the Hamlet state of whether I should buy a processor or not.
We re fine here with 6...don't forget 8 is great .... But it really costs more to manufacture .. and on this board it would not make that much of a difference. But I do take your point in. Hopefully, 8 layers will become the standard even on sub 300 boards.
@@Laurentschoice 6layer is usually not capable of hitting 7200stable, 6800mt/s is usually max. Then people complain that the cpu is not good when it is the mobo.
@@Laurentschoice Joke aside... :) Do you think I will be ok with Gigabyte Z790 AORUS ELITE X WIFI7+147000k for working work loads for a few years? I should mention I'm very careful with my components...
HI SEEN FULL VIDEO AND PLS SAY for I7 13700K, 4070 super. Is motherboard msi pro z790a max wifi enough for it or should i go with msi mag z790 tomahawk max wifi.
I haven't upgraded my two computers in years (10700k & 980ti / 6700k & 970) but I still watch your channel to keep up with hardware. No crazy clickbait, just informative and well-researched reviews with nice humor and practical takeaways. Maybe retrospectively review some older cards or CPUs? Keep up the great content, Laurent.
Sure things. What would you like to watch ?
@@Laurentschoice Maybe a revisit of your first GPU or your own first computer build. No matter what though, your content is great. 👍
HI SEEN FULL VIDEO AND PLS SAY for I7 13700K, 4070 super. Is motherboard msi pro z790a max wifi enough for it or should i go with msi mag z790 tomahawk max wifi.
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Another great review. 🙂 A joy to watch.
I just love the way u talk just perfect and really accurate stuff.
awesome review very informative thank you
Should I go with the ASUS TUF Gaming X670E or the ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-F ? Im planning on building with an Ryzen 9 7950x3d and an RTX 4080 Super. im also open for any new recommendations, the only criterias are, at least a bit rgb, it should be black, ATX and it should be not more expensive than the other two.
Helloo!, I need help, I do live streams on Twitch and I mainly dedicate myself to gaming, which motherboard do you recommend with a budget of €330? Right now i have i5 12400F, and 32 Gb de Ram DDR5 and RTX 3060
I'm choosing a motherboard for 7950x, I'm wondering between msi x670e tomahawk and x670 aorus elite ax, can you give me advice?
So populating the M.2_1 with a gen 4 SSD, will not reduce the number of lane for PCIe_1 slot where the GPU goes?
MSI pro Z-790 A max wifi vs MSI MAG z790 tomahawk max wifi which is better motherboard?
I’m wondering the same thing
@@claytonwatson1169 I'm really confused!😐
according to the price MSI Pro Z-790 A max wifi is cheaper than MSI MAG z-790 tomahawk max wifi!!
I’m curious how you’re going to defend EK after the next story releases 🤨
Make a video for amd mobos , which is better for its price , plz ?!?
HI SEEN FULL VIDEO AND PLS SAY for I7 13700K, 4070 super. Is motherboard msi pro z790a max wifi enough for it or should i go with msi mag z790 tomahawk max wifi 😊
HI PLS REPLY THIS ONE , TOMORROW AM GOING TO BUY PC, SO CLEAR MY DOUBT BRO 😢😢
Hey... Plz suggest me a best z790 under 50k plzz😢😢😢😢😢😢........
Asus z790 f
What is your opinion abount z690 and z790 carbon wifi d5 mobo? i am confused between MSI PRO Z790-A MAX, TOMAHAWK and CARBON and need some advise
Ur in luck . Im reviewing the Tomahawk MAX today and the Carbon II tomorrow :)
@@Laurentschoice Nice! what a luck for me. I'm looking forward to it.
Would you please review the GIGABYTE B650M AORUS Elite AX and how well it works for gaming, productivity, etc looking at 8000 and upcoming 9000 cpus please.
I bought a zMAX bored as well the 80 mg is nice and if you're running 11 fans if you're running an air-cooled model it does help it has lots of different connection ports in the two PCI You can turn the low frequency PCI slots into USB slots So you can give yourself more USB slots for like your mouse your keyboard steering wheel if you're doing stuff like that So they've really just depends on what you're really wanting to do But the one is actually eight gig and the one below it I believe is four gig..
5.0 is 16 to 24 gig pcie
5.0 is 16 to 24 gig pcie
HI PLS SAY for I7 13700K, 4070 super. Is motherboard msi pro z790a max wifi enough for it or should i go with msi mag z790 tomahawk MAX wifi 😊
HI PLS SAY for I7 13700K, 4070 super. Is motherboard msi pro z790a max wifi enough for it or should i go with msi mag z790 tomahawk MAX wifi. Say me pls
I am saving for a pc build it has
Primary gpu: Rtx 4070 super
Secondary gpu: Intel arc a 380
Ram: 32gb ram 5600mhz
Primary storage: 1tb nvme ssd
Secondary storage: 2 tb ssd
Case: Evetech onyx case
Kratos gamadias 750w
Os: Windows 10 pro
Cpu: Intel core I5 14400f
Motherboard: msi pro z790-a max wifi
think about upgrading your PSU bro, 750W is enough to run on for this build, yes. but the less capacity of your PSU you use will increase the lifespan and energy efficiency :)
Is there a way to see the scoring that you have done on mobos somewere and not having to go thruu them all one by one?
Yes at the very end of the video :)
In the conclusion towards the end
Let me know if that's what u meant :)
Nice !!! But i love the GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS ELITE X WIFI7 🙂
Yeah, the AORUS ELITE X is miles ahead! Nothing can dethrone that one (or maybe the TOMAHAWK MAX I am filming today.. that one will give it a run for its money!)
I have the same board paired with a 14700k and it has been awesome!
@@Laurentschoice I think the way the motherboard's USB ports are designed is also very important. Personally I believe that MSI is not steel clear on how the USB's port bus should be better designed, I think there are some old knots that have not yet been resolved. I have many different brands motherboards on hand... but when I use the USB ports on the MSI boards (more than one port) I always have .....a headache. 😂
Liked your video, there's pros and cons about the info status and connectivity that open my eyes to another choices, 20 bucks here and there, take off wasted connectors and voila, could've done a better job, thanks!
This board has one possible advantage over the high-end MAG Tomahawk MAX WiFi:
On the MAG, if you put an NVMe into the primary slot next to the CPU, your GPU PCIe link will be cut from 16x to 8x. This is due to the implementation of PCIe Gen 5 on that NVMe slot. There's NO way around this except to not install an SSD there. Any SSD installed there, even if it's only a 4.0 or 3.0 device, will nerf your GPU link. This is not MSI's fault, it's a limitation of the number of PCIe 5.0 lanes available on this platform generation.
PCIe gen 5 drives have their issues, but are becoming more relevant. Degraded GPU link brings perhaps a few percent framerate costs. Ultimately it's up to you to decide where you prefer to compromise, but realize that if you do get a board with 5.0 NVMe slot, and you want to use all four slots, that choice is made for you.
Me, I run the PRO MAX with all four slots populated with Gen 4 NVMe (three of these in RAID) and my GPU at full 16X link. This configuration would not be possible on the Tomahawk.
So I can go fully decided to buy a MSI PRO Z790-A MAX than the MAG Tomahawk.. it's more cheaper and I can fully use all NVMe slots without the PCI link issue??
@@fernandomilani9450 Yep. PCIe gen 4.0 for all four NVMe slots at the same time with x16 link speed on the GPU.
I have this motherboard and still there's no update to address issues with intel's microcode. I use my backup PC to keep my i5 14600K from degradation because I'm not in the mood to swich my entire platform to AMD because my CPU may eventually die because of intel's failure. I would never ever choose a MSI board. I regret i didn't go to an ASUS motherboard, mainly because of lack of updates for the last few months.
HI PLS SAY, Does even msi mag z790 tomahwak max wifi have any problems with i7 13700k build or should I go with this mother board msi pro z790 a max motherboard
HI PLS SAY, Does even msi mag z790 tomahwak max wifi have any problems with i7 13700k build or should I go with this mother board msi pro z790 a max motherboard 😮
thank u
I have a MSI Z790 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI keeping unused over 3 months, because of Intel 13/14 crash issue, finally I found the i5-13500 may be safe, because of it's L2 cache is the same with Alder-lake, this brings another issue to me, I hope I can have the most option in my z790 motherboard bios... so I still haven't buy my CPU....
I'm reviewing that model today. Can you give me more details ... I'll try to troubleshoot it during my review for u
@@Laurentschoice Buying i5-13500 is very simple. As long as I buy it, I don't need to worry about the CPU being burned out. But at this time, my mental state is in an unsatisfied state. I want to have the most bios options once I buy i5-13500. If Intel or MSI release a complete solution to the Raptor-lake K version processor, I will have to sell the existing i5-13500 processor and buy an i7-14700K (I think this model has the same VRM capacity as TOMAHAWK Comparable match) The reality is that Intel cannot solve the problem and let the motherboard factory guys admit the harm from the end users and want a smooth transition to the next processor generation. This puts me in the Hamlet state of whether I should buy a processor or not.
@@yuan.pingchen3056HI PLS REPLY for I7 13700K, 4070 super Which is best motherboard msi pro z790a max wifi or msi mag z790 tomahawk max wifi
May have to switch over to AMD after 14th gen intel's fire sale...
6layer pcb, bläääh. Memory oc or even ram at high xmp profiles will suffer. 8 layers at least is needed.
We re fine here with 6...don't forget 8 is great .... But it really costs more to manufacture .. and on this board it would not make that much of a difference. But I do take your point in. Hopefully, 8 layers will become the standard even on sub 300 boards.
@@Laurentschoice 6layer is usually not capable of hitting 7200stable, 6800mt/s is usually max. Then people complain that the cpu is not good when it is the mobo.
ASROCK Z790 Riptide WiFi have 8 layer PCB
👍 !!! 👍 !!! 👍 !!!
David in the houuuuuuuuuuussssssseeeeee
Hi laurent. I keep skipping Intel 😂
so i still have a couple of z790 to review then going back to AMD. Anything in particular you want me to review?
I am watching all videos. I am stuck to my X670 Elite AX 7950x until AM6 🎉
@@Laurentschoice ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WIFI vs ASUS ROG Strix B650E-E Gaming WIFI
Ok so I already reviewed the Strix B650E-E but I'll do the other ones u mentioned
I would also like to see the b650e-f tested. Heard good things about it
Very nice 👍❤😂❤😂❤
I swear, I was crossing my fingers for you to point "Micro pin***"
You and I are part of a very special club
@@Laurentschoice You are an amazing man
@@Laurentschoice Joke aside... :)
Do you think I will be ok with Gigabyte Z790 AORUS ELITE X WIFI7+147000k for working work loads for a few years?
I should mention I'm very careful with my components...
@bobbysanderz6769 more tha. Ok. Perfect combination
@@Laurentschoice I'm so greatfull for your answer , Thank you so much 🤗
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HI PLS SAY THIS,
HI PLS REPLY THIS ONE , TOMORROW AM GOING TO BUY PC, SO CLEAR MY DOUBT BRO 😢😢