Terrorism is seen as a present-day epidemic, but the families of the 270 victims of Pan Am Flight 103 have lived with it for decades. Bound together by tragedy when a bomb ripped the New York-bound 747 jumbo jet into pieces over Lockerbie, Scotland just before Christmas in 1988, the Flight 103 families faced one traumatic injustice after another.
Yes, sadly the mass as a whole has the memory of a pea and talks about terrorism like it was invented yesterday... Unless they are personally concerned, people have the power to accept and forget anything, with few exceptions (rejected by the "normies"). Probably is that why humanity doesn't really learn from the past and evolve.
I'm British. The release of Megrahi just sounded like the newly-formed semi-independent Scottish Government proclaiming their independence from the British government in London. If the London government had said Megrahi should be released on compassionate grounds, I bet the Scots would have said no keep him in jail. Characteristic small-mindedness from the Celtic fringe
Denice O'Neill, age 21, was on Pan Am Flight 103. She lived across the hall from me at Hampshire College in Amherst, Massachusetts, and used to come over and watch TV in the evenings with me and my roommates. She was a pre-med student and was returning to the U.S. after working for two and a half months at a hospital in Nigeria. She was in seat 38K.
I sympathize with these families & I am deeply grateful for their dedication to uncovering the perfidy of terrorists. I am sorry that average citizens now have to submit to humiliating searches when boarding an airplane. I prefer to meditate upon the deeds of those sweet Scottish women who laundered all the clothes of victims. There is a lesson to be learned from caring. Let us all follow their example. Find a tangible way to express caring.
I lost my Uncle Irving on this flight, he had caught an early flight home and wasn't originally even supposed to be on the flight. He is dearly missed.
This happened on my little girl's birthday, December 21st 1988. A year later, 19/12/89 We flew from South Africa to Heathrow airport in London. We were bussed accross to the "internal" flight waiting area to catch a flight to Ireland. Upon entering the lounge, we were surrounded by men & women, all wearing black mourning clothes. They carried bouquets of red flowers & green foliage, with large black/white photographs hanging. They were the families of Pan Am victims, awaiting their flights to Lockerbie. I spoke to many who shared their stories. It was a very moving time. A woman told me her son had decided to fly home to surprise his family for christmas. They received a call telling them that their son had bern on the Pan Am flight. His body had been found, allowing his family to hold a funeral. Looking at her photograph, he was such a handsome young man. I've never forgotten that.
As a Scot now a US citizen, I am proud of my fellow Scots. The compassion & humanity shown by the Scots to these grieving families will never be forgotten! We will never forget the passengers of Pan Am Flight 103 or their surviving relatives. The grace & dignity shown by these families is a lesson to us all. Hold tight your loved ones as tomorrow is not promised to anyone. With the utmost gratitude & respect to the makers of this documentary, thank you!
They were incredible. The way they took care of the families, bodies and possessions in the middle of losing some of their own and having their town ripped apart. One of the passengers families I think it was Frank Ciullas daughter said, they handled it so respectfully and kindly it was as if they’d been given a handbook on how to deal with this exact scenario because they were so wonderful.
I agree with many of the comments on this documentary. This tragedy hunts me for decades now. I keep coming back to read NTSB files on the investigation, watch new documentaries and rewatch the older ones. This crime has all of the hunting elements of a human tragedy. The hatery, the terror, the innocent victims going about their lives, the group of young students returning home for Christmas after a fantastic student exchange semester in London, the beautiful, large transatlantic aircraft, Christmas, the legendary Pan Am airlines, the bomb, the lost innocent lives in Lockerbie, the family of two surviving sons who die years later in tragic circumstances, the massive crime scene, the blankets on the grounds, the fires, the tv news, the photos of passengers, the goodness of Scottish people’s hearts then and now decades later is all unprecedented. There have been more terrorism attacks ever since but bombing of the Pan Am will always be remembered as one of the greatest human tragedies of our times.
I have a friend who lives in that area and when I visit will always go over to the cemetery to pay respects at the monolithic memorial to the victims and then up to tundergarth church where the grave diggers hut has been converted in to a shrine if your in the area it’s worth a visit
What really bothers me is the huge amounts of blood money Switzerland is holding in its vaults, knowing much of it comes through the killing of innocent people and the large scale plunder of countries' riches by its dictators. Switzerland is complicit in each and every crime against humanity for the blood money they take so eagerly
I am Australian but of Scottish ancestry and my father was a Senior Check Captain for Qantas and flew 747s. Even though I knew no one on the flight or don't have friends or relatives in Lockerbie, I feel a connection to this story. I feel so moved by the women who washed, ironed and folded the clothes of the victims - it was such an honouring of those who lost their lives in this awful tragedy. The people of Lockerbie taught the world a lesson in humanity with their deep kindness and care. What a outrage that PanAm and the American Government couldn't do the same.
My uncle and aunt lived metres away from the crash site, they were watching tv (Emmerdale), it had just started. Their dog Tara heard the plane coming down before my relatives. Tara jumped up and ran behind the couch. My relatives ran outside and saw the spinning aircraft coming down over their home. 😢
I got married in January 1989, about 2 weeks after the disaster. We were driving to the Lake District for our honeymoon and were on the road that passed by the town. The enormous gash in the ground that the plane cut as it fell was shocking and awful to see in real life. It was haunting to pass so close to where so many innocent people lost their lives to evil. We both felt very grateful to be alive that day, and spent most of the rest of the journey in silence. It had a massive impact on both of us. If I’ve taken anything away from seeing that, it’s been that I’ve tried to always appreciate every day of my life. Every day, I tell the people I love how much they mean to me, because none of us ever know when our lives, or their lives, will suddenly be ended.
I got deployed to Lockerbie for 3 days my daughter was born on 4/1/89 and the next day I was on a gunnery course for 6 weeks which wasn’t a bad thing as it kept me from dwelling on that tragedy when we returned from Scotland we felt the same as you driving back to catterick
The tradgedy is, the working class people, who were likely empathetic to their loss, were forced to say “I’m sorry” on the phone, while they were silently living out their own grief over all this. Meanwhile, the panam execs and gov ex’s slept well, knowing they can buy out the problem.
@@mjfan653 I’m reminded of one of the stories at the time was how I the local people, who were dealing with their own trauma, gathered up the belongings of the people who died on the plane which were scattered all over the town and made sure they went to the families of the victims. That’s humanity, the least of them was a far better person than any of those corporate shills.
Powerful. A very important reminder of why we must never be soft on terrorism, never make deals with terrorists and hold the state sponsors directly responsible for their proxies. This is the only way the current and ongoing threat will be curtailed. We must honour and never forget the victims of terrorism and never betray their memories in the manner that government leaders have historically done all for the almighty buck. Thank you for sharing this.
I was 8 when this happened. It was the first news story that I had ever remembered. I was on a flight to London with my mother to go see my aunt. By the time we got to Heathrow, news had already spread about the crash.
Feb 3 2023 Today I finally understood the significance of this horrific event. Kept me up all night. Very well presented and written . Very very SAD. When will our governments learn? These families who lost loved ones, 259 lost lives over what? Life lessons learned. A very important and significant event in history. Thank you for making this video.
It’s 2024. There is far more going on with Lockerbie that we will never know, but the fact people were warned off the flight is the smoking gun. I’ve seen a lot of theories but this doc revealed to me for the first time that the bombing happened just as George Bush Snr was about to take office is also a talking point. Tonnes of American secret service officers were in Lockerbie after the crash looking for something that fell from the plane, yet we never heard from them.
My most favorite part of this documentary was the last story told by Alexander's mom. I love every word she spoke. Although I've never known her pain I do want her to know I can feel her pain. R.I.P. Alaxander and all the victims from Pan Am flight 103 attack. God Speed 🙏
I had never seen interviews with the families before. I appreciate this was more about the victims and justice than just telling the flight of pan am 103 and the bombing. My oldest is the same age as some of these kids and i cant imagine losing her. My heart is with them all.
This is another part of history we should never forget. The remarks about Quadaffi made me think about what my husband told me about him. My husband said when Qadaffi took over with some backing of the U.S. that we would regret allowing this to happen. How ironic that a 20 year old could see what would happen 20 years in the future.
The people of Lockerbie were amazing in the respect they showed to the families of the deceased. I read somewhere that it took around 2 years (maybe I'm wrong) to sort every single persons belongs. They put their clothes, personal belongings and everything they found of the deceaced. They cleaned everything and handed them to the families. I imagine it meant so much to the grieving families, what a lovely thing to do. RIP 🙏 you will never be forgotten.
The people of Lockerbie were such angels. Those of us who remember will never forget your generosity of spirit and kindness. I hope to go there one day.
this is the most insightful documentary of those who lost loved ones and the reaction to the terrorists release, just heartbreaking, constantly being stabbed in the back by their own governments, as was said at the end, its the innocent in between who face loss and die, not the ones who are responsible for the cause of the trouble.
I remember this so clearly. This the bombing of Libya and the faulklands war are the stand out moments of my childhood. I remember I had a really bad cold and I was sitting with my mum that night and the BBC announced that at a few minutes after 7pm an aircraft had crashed onto lockerbie Scotland. I remember the images vividly.
Lockerbie was never forgotten but important it should not be forgotten- took a long time back then to fathom it was terrorism ……. Why that plane why there ? Really it still makes no sense ……. Great docu - profoundly impactful ! It’s a great loss deeply felt and it really comes across - feel so sorry for their loss
I remember the day after. Driving to work with a close friend & she was reading the newspaper & saw the name of an American. Local serviceman and she screams. She went to HS with him & was close to him. She had no idea. I felt her pain in that scream. Can only imagine his family’s pain.
He told the people of Lockerbie Scotland that this was much worse for Americans and that statistically this was bound to happen at some point. Andrew was linked with Gaddafi /Libya which the bomber was associated with.
I am not sure how up to date the satellite photo is but big part of the wreckage is sitting in a pile at scrap yard; think it’s called Windleys Salvage. The yard itself is next door to Tattershall Karting Centre. Weird to think it’s been there still even after nearly 36 years.
The U.K. government knew, the airport knew, they all knew. I was on a Pan Am flight the week before ( London to Detroit). Before the flight I was put through one of the most rigorous security checks I had ever experienced. I was full body searched and everything I was carrying was all examined. Keep in mind this is December of 1988. Airports security was very relaxed. I could not understand why they put my husband and myself through this. I had been to Europe many times previously and never experienced anything like this. When I heard flight 103 had crashed I just froze. I knew then that they were aware of the threat. So sad.
The lady speaking about relatives reactions to the loss of their loved ones, next to the sculptures is so haunting, its unreal. I genuinely felt their pain 😢
I was eight when this happened, but I remember it so vividly. The Kegworth air disaster happened a year later which was a mile from my house. I remember being scared of flying because it felt like planes just crashed easily, but I was only little. It felt like there was always a plane crash being reported on the news. 😢
My heart still goes out to the families of the victims of Pan Am 103. I am a Syracuse Alumni and want them to know their loved ones are still remembered with love 30+ years later. Alex was in my freshman dorm and was a close friend. He was a wonderful person, full of love and light and I am so sorry his family was consistently let down by the government that is supposed to protect us. This documentary does our friends justice. Your loved ones will always be remembered for the wonderful people they were.
I delivered mail during my postal career to the mother of one of the victims of this tragedy. For some reason, that brought the reality & horror of this so much closer to me, imagining the loss she & that family felt & no doubt still feel to this day.
I can’t believe one stewardess did survive that drop, but she couldn’t make it till help arrived. Could you imagine being the only person to survive that how her body would’ve looked how her psych would’ve been I just can’t believe she survived the drop.
From my understanding 2 people were believed to have survived, both of them suffered non-lethal injuries, one was a broken leg, and the other I believe was a broken vertebrae. Amazing what shock does to you. Can end you that quickly even if for the most part you're okay
I remember reading that at least one person was found still strapped to their seat and suspended from the branches of a tree. I think they were found by a farmer out tending to his land. I can only pray that the sheer shock of what happened was enough to protect all the victims from the horror of their fates.
I was 10 years old when this happened and I felt for the first time sadness and dread. The worst thing I ever saw on TV news. When you're a kid you can't take it in but over the years becoming an adult it hurts. It haunts me like Hillsborough, Dunblane etc. Just the worst thing.
i remember this day. i was a young mum, i broke my heart only few hours from where i live. im a grand mother now. terrorists at it again, praying daily
46:50 Widow is a word from sanskit; vilomah is the word, also from sanskrit, that means a parent who has lost a child however it is not recognized in English dictionaries, the phrase ‘bereaved parent’ is cumbersome.
Dan and Susan Cohen wrote an excellent book on this tragedy called Pan Am 103. Their daughter was on that flight. It really gives you a shocking insight into what Pan Am did in the aftermath of this tragedy to the families of the victims and how the government dragged its feet in bringing those who were responsible for this attack to justice. I'm glad they went out of business.
I can never unhear that screaming mother. The sound of a person who has literally just lost everything. As i can imagine was felt by the other passengers families. Awful 😞
The flight flew over my village 3 minutes before the explosion. I cannot imagine the horror the people of Lockerbie felt. I'm on the flight path, planes land half a minute from my house at the airport, therefore they fly extremely low over my roof and at least once a day I think of what would have happened had the Pan Am flight exploded over here.
Omg that's scary to think where do you live if you don't mind me asking I've been told around a few minutes later the plane would have been flying over my village
Thoughts are with all the all of the people who passed, the families, parents and people who gave their all to helping. Lost for words at how much they were all horrifically failed.
"The System" has been corrupt for a long, long time. This video further validates my suspicions on why the American government has been so cruel. I'm glad I never learned to drive. Oil companies can go to hell for all I care. I mourn the loss of the lives on Flight 103.
this catastrophe...will forever ...be a nail in so many coffins...for awareness of...public safety....and human....care... humanity!.... rest in peace....ye all...and bless the town of Lockerbie!
An example of how governments and airlines were more interested in profit and revenue than the people that use and provide these companies and governments with their power base. Your government expects you to stand up and fight for them but the bottom line is that the roles are not reversed, they will kowtow to wherever the money comes from even if its from a sworn enemy.
Heart breaking, but worth watching so we don't forget. I never realized how drawn out the Libya situation was and how it tied back to the Pan Am bombing.
I remember where I was when I heard, I was stuck in Chicago traffic. Everyone was in a rush for Christmas. I do remember the aftermath, the families were determined to hold Pan Am accountable.
Being a British citizen I'm ashamed of my country in being more interested in oil etc than human life my heart goes out to all the families of the victims of flight 103
I was 22 years old. When this happened I live in the United States. I was living in San Francisco young kid working at Maisie and I heard that and I just felt like these are people that are my age group just getting out of college figuring it all out had they lived they’d be parents definitely or maybe grandparents, what a loss these bright 270 people plus the 11 on the ground it’s just heartbreaking. At least they did something. I know that doesn’t bring it back but the money will help. I’m so sorry for your loss truly
I will never forget the morning in 1986 when the BBC announced that the USA had bombed Libya from UK airfields. She said " that's it they will make us pay for this " and how right she was .
@MPZambrano1977Why would the parents show any remorse to Libyans because of the American Governments clandestine actions. They literally had nothing to do with the American government bonbing Libya nor do they have anything to do with the Libyans who got bombed; as tragic as that also is. Mental to expect the victims parents to feel anything but pain.
Thanks for the upload, but the music makes it nearly unwatchable. Will someone explain to me why this - the awful music overlay - is a problem with so many docs on UA-cam. Is it to evade copyright?
I don't dream about her as much as I used too. I don't like not dreaming about her, that's not a good thing..... I think this is the most heartbreaking sentence I have ever heard.
I remember this very well. Look at the way the people of Scotland came together, and see what they did for the families of all those lost in that terrorist bombing. Would my government, the US, have allowed any group of people to launder and iron the clothing and carefully pack it before sending it on to the families? The people of Scotland, my own forefathers before coming to America, behaved solemnly, kindly, and in a very caring manner towards their fellow humans, even in their grief. Especially in their grief. But my government ignored everything until the victims’ families marched and demanded that everything be done about this terrorist act. My country, my government, and that airline were all too eager to sweep this incident under the rug. Money. It was all about money and government secrecy. The shame should be more than people would stand to bear. It’s not. That shame will bear only more of the same, just as we see what’s going on now. One day this country will fall. All that will be left is the evil that has grown increasingly over the short decades of just my long life. One is a part of it, or one removes oneself through the living Jesus Christ. Edit: Few people realize that also on that plane was Chuck McKee who was at his Beirut CIA post. Bob Baer wrote a short bit in chapter twelve, page 132 in his excellent book, ‘See No Evil.’ It’s prudent to realize that as nasty and underhanded as our government’s alphabet institutions are, there are truly good men within whose only purpose is duty bound to serve our country honestly and decently, though they fight internal beasts within the very framework of their positions. They go in blind, wrapped in an American flag with the best intent to change the wrongs, never believing they’ll lose that battle. They may be few, they may be unsung (and actually they are, as most everyone lumps all members under one canopy) but they are there, at least until the beasts within won’t allow those few good men to serve the way they believe. They are forced to conform or forced out. They leave dejected and torn, as belittled by their government as the rest of the common people holding no power. I could urge people to think of this but also realize that too much time has passed where those few good are even fewer, a minuscule number among the beasts who run things. Reading comments from most documentaries is indicative of the mindset of the uneducated masses. We live in perilous times that are deescalating at a furious pace. Look at the government we’ve had since after WWII. Well, those who are old enough and those few who read comprehensively enough to understand. Most people never read history at all. They feed on tiny sound bites and are keen to tell everyone else that they know everything. They know nothing, and they are the majority.
Now answer this, there were South African ministers that were told to cancel their tickets on this flight and to take the next flight. What did certain people know about this flight?
I lived in S.A. at that time. I heard many rumours about Lockerbie bombing, but that one was soon debunked. Conspiracy theorists love to add their crazed ideas, but can cause extreme pain to victims or survivors.
The white-haired woman which she did so much, and her husband were both Greek-Americans. It always hits harder when it hits closer to home. I might be only Greek, but I still feel the same for our diaspora in the US/Australia/Canada.
Alex Salmond died recently and the positive comments about him inevitably followed. But I remember him for releasing the terrorist who was partly responsible for this atrocity. If you don’t serve a full sentence for this, what do you serve a full sentence for??!
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Terrorism is seen as a present-day epidemic, but the families of the 270 victims of Pan Am Flight 103 have lived with it for decades. Bound together by tragedy when a bomb ripped the New York-bound 747 jumbo jet into pieces over Lockerbie, Scotland just before Christmas in 1988, the Flight 103 families faced one traumatic injustice after another.
Thank you so much for uploading this documentary.
Yes, sadly the mass as a whole has the memory of a pea and talks about terrorism like it was invented yesterday... Unless they are personally concerned, people have the power to accept and forget anything, with few exceptions (rejected by the "normies"). Probably is that why humanity doesn't really learn from the past and evolve.
As a parent, I would be just as they are / were. I
I'm British. The release of Megrahi just sounded like the newly-formed semi-independent Scottish Government proclaiming their independence from the British government in London.
If the London government had said Megrahi should be released on compassionate grounds, I bet the Scots would have said no keep him in jail.
Characteristic small-mindedness from the Celtic fringe
Denice O'Neill, age 21, was on Pan Am Flight 103. She lived across the hall from me at Hampshire College in Amherst, Massachusetts, and used to come over and watch TV in the evenings with me and my roommates. She was a pre-med student and was returning to the U.S. after working for two and a half months at a hospital in Nigeria. She was in seat 38K.
How bitter sweet this comment is🤍
May her memory be a blessing
I sympathize with these families & I am deeply grateful for their dedication to uncovering the perfidy of terrorists.
I am sorry that average citizens now have to submit to humiliating searches when boarding an airplane. I prefer to meditate upon the deeds of those sweet Scottish women who laundered all the clothes of victims.
There is a lesson to be learned from caring. Let us all follow their example. Find a tangible way to express caring.
May God bless her.
God, im sorry, mate.
It’s astonishing that the lessons of Air India 182 in 1985, more than three years before this, had not been heeded.
I lost my Uncle Irving on this flight, he had caught an early flight home and wasn't originally even supposed to be on the flight. He is dearly missed.
😕 sorry for your loss
So sorry for your loss 😢
Oh man that's rough. I'm sorry for your loss.
Sorry for your loss
🙏🙏🙏
This happened on my little girl's birthday, December 21st 1988. A year later, 19/12/89 We flew from South Africa to Heathrow airport in London. We were bussed accross to the "internal" flight waiting area to catch a flight to Ireland. Upon entering the lounge, we were surrounded by men & women, all wearing black mourning clothes. They carried bouquets of red flowers & green foliage, with large black/white photographs hanging.
They were the families of Pan Am victims, awaiting their flights to Lockerbie. I spoke to many who shared their stories. It was a very moving time. A woman told me her son had decided to fly home to surprise his family for christmas. They received a call telling them that their son had bern on the Pan Am flight. His body had been found, allowing his family to hold a funeral. Looking at her photograph, he was such a handsome young man. I've never forgotten that.
*had been on
@Jaseonofficialif you didn’t get the story, there’s nothing left to say
As a Scot now a US citizen, I am proud of my fellow Scots. The compassion & humanity shown by the Scots to these grieving families will never be forgotten! We will never forget the passengers of Pan Am Flight 103 or their surviving relatives. The grace & dignity shown by these families is a lesson to us all. Hold tight your loved ones as tomorrow is not promised to anyone. With the utmost gratitude & respect to the makers of this documentary, thank you!
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The people of Lockerbie are outstanding human beings.
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@@erikarabieyou poor soul
They were incredible. The way they took care of the families, bodies and possessions in the middle of losing some of their own and having their town ripped apart. One of the passengers families I think it was Frank Ciullas daughter said, they handled it so respectfully and kindly it was as if they’d been given a handbook on how to deal with this exact scenario because they were so wonderful.
I agree with many of the comments on this documentary. This tragedy hunts me for decades now. I keep coming back to read NTSB files on the investigation, watch new documentaries and rewatch the older ones. This crime has all of the hunting elements of a human tragedy. The hatery, the terror, the innocent victims going about their lives, the group of young students returning home for Christmas after a fantastic student exchange semester in London, the beautiful, large transatlantic aircraft, Christmas, the legendary Pan Am airlines, the bomb, the lost innocent lives in Lockerbie, the family of two surviving sons who die years later in tragic circumstances, the massive crime scene, the blankets on the grounds, the fires, the tv news, the photos of passengers, the goodness of Scottish people’s hearts then and now decades later is all unprecedented. There have been more terrorism attacks ever since but bombing of the Pan Am will always be remembered as one of the greatest human tragedies of our times.
I have a friend who lives in that area and when I visit will always go over to the cemetery to pay respects at the monolithic memorial to the victims and then up to tundergarth church where the grave diggers hut has been converted in to a shrine if your in the area it’s worth a visit
*haunting
@@traceynorcross5666*gravediggers' hut *converted into
@January. Seriously, dude...? Read the room.
My gp, Dr swire,s daughter Flora died on this flight.. he is such an amazing man, this devastated him, he was never the same. RIP Flora.
My cousin was new in the army & his job was to help clear the area of the crash, he was too young to see what he did & still is haunted by it today.
What really bothers me is the huge amounts of blood money Switzerland is holding in its vaults, knowing much of it comes through the killing of innocent people and the large scale plunder of countries' riches by its dictators. Switzerland is complicit in each and every crime against humanity for the blood money they take so eagerly
God bless him for his job 🙏🏻
RIP
To the passengers and crew of Pan Am Flight 103 and the 11 people on the ground
I am Australian but of Scottish ancestry and my father was a Senior Check Captain for Qantas and flew 747s. Even though I knew no one on the flight or don't have friends or relatives in Lockerbie, I feel a connection to this story. I feel so moved by the women who washed, ironed and folded the clothes of the victims - it was such an honouring of those who lost their lives in this awful tragedy. The people of Lockerbie taught the world a lesson in humanity with their deep kindness and care. What a outrage that PanAm and the American Government couldn't do the same.
My uncle and aunt lived metres away from the crash site, they were watching tv (Emmerdale), it had just started. Their dog Tara heard the plane coming down before my relatives. Tara jumped up and ran behind the couch. My relatives ran outside and saw the spinning aircraft coming down over their home. 😢
It must have been terrifying for them
I got married in January 1989, about 2 weeks after the disaster. We were driving to the Lake District for our honeymoon and were on the road that passed by the town. The enormous gash in the ground that the plane cut as it fell was shocking and awful to see in real life. It was haunting to pass so close to where so many innocent people lost their lives to evil. We both felt very grateful to be alive that day, and spent most of the rest of the journey in silence. It had a massive impact on both of us.
If I’ve taken anything away from seeing that, it’s been that I’ve tried to always appreciate every day of my life. Every day, I tell the people I love how much they mean to me, because none of us ever know when our lives, or their lives, will suddenly be ended.
I got deployed to Lockerbie for 3 days my daughter was born on 4/1/89 and the next day I was on a gunnery course for 6 weeks which wasn’t a bad thing as it kept me from dwelling on that tragedy when we returned from Scotland we felt the same as you driving back to catterick
The way the families were treated is beyond disgraceful.
Absolute shame
The tradgedy is, the working class people, who were likely empathetic to their loss, were forced to say “I’m sorry” on the phone, while they were silently living out their own grief over all this.
Meanwhile, the panam execs and gov ex’s slept well, knowing they can buy out the problem.
@@mjfan653 I’m reminded of one of the stories at the time was how I the local people, who were dealing with their own trauma, gathered up the belongings of the people who died on the plane which were scattered all over the town and made sure they went to the families of the victims. That’s humanity, the least of them was a far better person than any of those corporate shills.
@@tatata1543 I remember that also! That was amazing!
Not by the Scots though
Powerful. A very important reminder of why we must never be soft on terrorism, never make deals with terrorists and hold the state sponsors directly responsible for their proxies. This is the only way the current and ongoing threat will be curtailed. We must honour and never forget the victims of terrorism and never betray their memories in the manner that government leaders have historically done all for the almighty buck. Thank you for sharing this.
Wow. I never knew how badly the families of the panam victims were treated. And how easily this heinous act of terror could have been prevented 😢
What a wonderful film.
I've never forgotten this tragedy.
I was 8 when this happened. It was the first news story that I had ever remembered. I was on a flight to London with my mother to go see my aunt. By the time we got to Heathrow, news had already spread about the crash.
Feb 3 2023 Today I finally understood the significance of this horrific event. Kept me up all night. Very well presented and written . Very very SAD. When will our governments learn? These families who lost loved ones, 259 lost lives over what? Life lessons learned. A very important and significant event in history. Thank you for making this video.
It’s 2024.
There is far more going on with Lockerbie that we will never know, but the fact people were warned off the flight is the smoking gun.
I’ve seen a lot of theories but this doc revealed to me for the first time that the bombing happened just as George Bush Snr was about to take office is also a talking point.
Tonnes of American secret service officers were in Lockerbie after the crash looking for something that fell from the plane, yet we never heard from them.
Plus 11 on the ground!
Another excellent documentary is the recent one by SKY here in the UK (it's on UA-cam) on the human side in two parts.
2024*
Thank-You for keeping this alive..! As long as we remember, our loved ones will continue to live in our harts...!
Had goosebumps the entire time, a very well made and insightful documentary. Thank you!
My most favorite part of this documentary was the last story told by Alexander's mom. I love every word she spoke.
Although I've never known her pain I do want her to know I can feel her pain.
R.I.P. Alaxander and all the victims from Pan Am flight 103 attack. God Speed 🙏
I had never seen interviews with the families before. I appreciate this was more about the victims and justice than just telling the flight of pan am 103 and the bombing. My oldest is the same age as some of these kids and i cant imagine losing her. My heart is with them all.
This is another part of history we should never forget. The remarks about Quadaffi made me think about what my husband told me about him. My husband said when Qadaffi took over with some backing of the U.S. that we would regret allowing this to happen. How ironic that a 20 year old could see what would happen 20 years in the future.
The people of Lockerbie were amazing in the respect they showed to the families of the deceased. I read somewhere that it took around 2 years (maybe I'm wrong) to sort every single persons belongs. They put their clothes, personal belongings and everything they found of the deceaced. They cleaned everything and handed them to the families. I imagine it meant so much to the grieving families, what a lovely thing to do. RIP 🙏 you will never be forgotten.
Lots of people die in prison from just one murder, but you release a man who murdered 270? A grave injustice to the survivors of the victims.
The sculpture garden is amazing.
It's a disturbing shyt
@annakaye1629 How about this? When you have a family member killed by terrorists we'll all judge the way you handle your grief, how's that?
The people of Lockerbie were such angels. Those of us who remember will never forget your generosity of spirit and kindness. I hope to go there one day.
Exceptional, personal, human-oriented documentary. Thanks so much for this project.
As a young kiwi who got to London, I worked as a travel agent - I booked two people on this flight - 😢
That’s something one never forgets
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My Condolences to every Family Member. That Sculpting Garden was DEEP!!!!
this is the most insightful documentary of those who lost loved ones and the reaction to the terrorists release, just heartbreaking, constantly being stabbed in the back by their own governments, as was said at the end, its the innocent in between who face loss and die, not the ones who are responsible for the cause of the trouble.
Yes indeed - and you can say the same about wars.
I remember this so clearly. This the bombing of Libya and the faulklands war are the stand out moments of my childhood. I remember I had a really bad cold and I was sitting with my mum that night and the BBC announced that at a few minutes after 7pm an aircraft had crashed onto lockerbie Scotland. I remember the images vividly.
Lockerbie was never forgotten but important it should not be forgotten- took a long time back then to fathom it was terrorism ……. Why that plane why there ? Really it still makes no sense ……. Great docu - profoundly impactful ! It’s a great loss deeply felt and it really comes across - feel so sorry for their loss
That's the people from Scotland for you!, caring and giving. Great documetry thanks for helping us how they felt at that awful time.
I remember the day after. Driving to work with a close friend & she was reading the newspaper & saw the name of an American. Local serviceman and she screams. She went to HS with him & was close to him. She had no idea. I felt her pain in that scream. Can only imagine his family’s pain.
If you need another reason to dislike Prince Andrew, his comments on this tragedy as well as his relationship with Libya is one.
What did he say ?
Well tell us what he said then?
Ok..what did he say..
He told the people of Lockerbie Scotland that this was much worse for Americans and that statistically this was bound to happen at some point.
Andrew was linked with Gaddafi /Libya which the bomber was associated with.
@@lisaalane7694 despicable human being, I’ve never liked him.
I am not sure how up to date the satellite photo is but big part of the wreckage is sitting in a pile at scrap yard; think it’s called Windleys Salvage. The yard itself is next door to Tattershall Karting Centre. Weird to think it’s been there still even after nearly 36 years.
David White, "Larry Tate" on Bewitched, lost his son on that flight.
So did many
Jonathan
The U.K. government knew, the airport knew, they all knew. I was on a Pan Am flight the week before ( London to Detroit). Before the flight I was put through one of the most rigorous security checks I had ever experienced. I was full body searched and everything I was carrying was all examined. Keep in mind this is December of 1988. Airports security was very relaxed. I could not understand why they put my husband and myself through this. I had been to Europe many times previously and never experienced anything like this. When I heard flight 103 had crashed I just froze. I knew then that they were aware of the threat. So sad.
The lady speaking about relatives reactions to the loss of their loved ones, next to the sculptures is so haunting, its unreal. I genuinely felt their pain 😢
I was eight when this happened, but I remember it so vividly. The Kegworth air disaster happened a year later which was a mile from my house. I remember being scared of flying because it felt like planes just crashed easily, but I was only little. It felt like there was always a plane crash being reported on the news. 😢
My heart still goes out to the families of the victims of Pan Am 103. I am a Syracuse Alumni and want them to know their loved ones are still remembered with love 30+ years later. Alex was in my freshman dorm and was a close friend. He was a wonderful person, full of love and light and I am so sorry his family was consistently let down by the government that is supposed to protect us. This documentary does our friends justice. Your loved ones will always be remembered for the wonderful people they were.
I delivered mail during my postal career to the mother of one of the victims of this tragedy. For some reason, that brought the reality & horror of this so much closer to me, imagining the loss she & that family felt & no doubt still feel to this day.
I can’t believe one stewardess did survive that drop, but she couldn’t make it till help arrived. Could you imagine being the only person to survive that how her body would’ve looked how her psych would’ve been I just can’t believe she survived the drop.
From my understanding 2 people were believed to have survived, both of them suffered non-lethal injuries, one was a broken leg, and the other I believe was a broken vertebrae.
Amazing what shock does to you. Can end you that quickly even if for the most part you're okay
I remember reading that at least one person was found still strapped to their seat and suspended from the branches of a tree. I think they were found by a farmer out tending to his land. I can only pray that the sheer shock of what happened was enough to protect all the victims from the horror of their fates.
WOW!!!! I never knew that. Thanks for telling us.
@@AB-mw8oz??? No one survived!
@@stoobydootoo4098 Worded it poorly, but survived the fall, dying of hypothermia and shock rather than non lethal wounds
I was 10 years old when this happened and I felt for the first time sadness and dread. The worst thing I ever saw on TV news. When you're a kid you can't take it in but over the years becoming an adult it hurts. It haunts me like Hillsborough, Dunblane etc. Just the worst thing.
This was such a well-made documentary.
Great Documentary!!!
Not what I expected. Horrible event, with awful consequences for the families. An emotional video, that I found hard to watch at times.
I live near lockerbie . Still remember that night.
😢💔
Only 10 minutes in and this is really painful 😣
Why do you put the music so loud that I have so much trouble hearing the narrative ????😮
Beautiful documentary
Glad you enjoyed it
i remember this day. i was a young mum, i broke my heart only few hours from where i live. im a grand mother now. terrorists at it again, praying daily
46:50 Widow is a word from sanskit; vilomah is the word, also from sanskrit, that means a parent who has lost a child however it is not recognized in English dictionaries, the phrase ‘bereaved parent’ is cumbersome.
To the wonderful people of Lockerbie, Scotland, they went above and beyond thank you for what you done in such a terrible time
Dan and Susan Cohen wrote an excellent book on this tragedy called Pan Am 103. Their daughter was on that flight. It really gives you a shocking insight into what Pan Am did in the aftermath of this tragedy to the families of the victims and how the government dragged its feet in bringing those who were responsible for this attack to justice. I'm glad they went out of business.
I can never unhear that screaming mother. The sound of a person who has literally just lost everything. As i can imagine was felt by the other passengers families. Awful 😞
The flight flew over my village 3 minutes before the explosion. I cannot imagine the horror the people of Lockerbie felt. I'm on the flight path, planes land half a minute from my house at the airport, therefore they fly extremely low over my roof and at least once a day I think of what would have happened had the Pan Am flight exploded over here.
Omg that's scary to think where do you live if you don't mind me asking I've been told around a few minutes later the plane would have been flying over my village
I didn’t realise the families were so badly let down 😢 this is very enlightening.
Its really heartbreaking
Thoughts are with all the all of the people who passed, the families, parents and people who gave their all to helping. Lost for words at how much they were all horrifically failed.
That was tough viewing. Those poor families 😢 the pain and the loss is unimaginable 😢
Its horrible what they had to go through
"The System" has been corrupt for a long, long time.
This video further validates my suspicions on why the American government has been so cruel.
I'm glad I never learned to drive. Oil companies can go to hell for all I care. I mourn the loss of the lives on Flight 103.
There bodies were scattered around it's horrible my heart sank
A beautiful video but background music is way too loud.
What an awesome job of sculpting in the dedication garden for flight 103!!!
Oh my goodness! I never knew the families weren't officially contacted. I am so sorry for that. How painful that is. Inhumane
this catastrophe...will forever ...be a nail in so many coffins...for awareness of...public safety....and human....care... humanity!.... rest in peace....ye all...and bless the town of Lockerbie!
That sculpture garden is breathtaking… powerful
There's no justice in this world.
An example of how governments and airlines were more interested in profit and revenue than the people that use and provide these companies and governments with their power base. Your government expects you to stand up and fight for them but the bottom line is that the roles are not reversed, they will kowtow to wherever the money comes from even if its from a sworn enemy.
Even tho is happened before 1 year and 3 days before I was born, my thoughts are with to all friends and family who lost there relatives ♥️
Horrible what happened to those poor people and their families :(
Heart breaking, but worth watching so we don't forget. I never realized how drawn out the Libya situation was and how it tied back to the Pan Am bombing.
Unbelievable how the victims and their families were handled by Pan Am. Shameful.
I remember where I was when I heard, I was stuck in Chicago traffic. Everyone was in a rush for Christmas. I do remember the aftermath, the families were determined to hold Pan Am accountable.
Wow also thanks for saying that 11:06 yes the town took all the victims too there heart ..
Being a British citizen I'm ashamed of my country in being more interested in oil etc than human life my heart goes out to all the families of the victims of flight 103
I was 22 years old. When this happened I live in the United States. I was living in San Francisco young kid working at Maisie and I heard that and I just felt like these are people that are my age group just getting out of college figuring it all out had they lived they’d be parents definitely or maybe grandparents, what a loss these bright 270 people plus the 11 on the ground it’s just heartbreaking. At least they did something. I know that doesn’t bring it back but the money will help. I’m so sorry for your loss truly
I will never forget the morning in 1986 when the BBC announced that the USA had bombed Libya from UK airfields. She said " that's it they will make us pay for this " and how right she was .
@MPZambrano1977Why would the parents show any remorse to Libyans because of the American Governments clandestine actions.
They literally had nothing to do with the American government bonbing Libya nor do they have anything to do with the Libyans who got bombed; as tragic as that also is.
Mental to expect the victims parents to feel anything but pain.
This was the beginning of the end of PAN AM.
Hummm??
Yes, it was. There are a lot of "if onlys," but this was the trigger.
Thanks for the upload, but the music makes it nearly unwatchable. Will someone explain to me why this - the awful music overlay - is a problem with so many docs on UA-cam. Is it to evade copyright?
I don't dream about her as much as I used too. I don't like not dreaming about her, that's not a good thing..... I think this is the most heartbreaking sentence I have ever heard.
I'm sorry for your loss. I wish I could see my love in my dreams every night
I remember this very well. Look at the way the people of Scotland came together, and see what they did for the families of all those lost in that terrorist bombing. Would my government, the US, have allowed any group of people to launder and iron the clothing and carefully pack it before sending it on to the families? The people of Scotland, my own forefathers before coming to America, behaved solemnly, kindly, and in a very caring manner towards their fellow humans, even in their grief. Especially in their grief. But my government ignored everything until the victims’ families marched and demanded that everything be done about this terrorist act. My country, my government, and that airline were all too eager to sweep this incident under the rug. Money. It was all about money and government secrecy. The shame should be more than people would stand to bear. It’s not. That shame will bear only more of the same, just as we see what’s going on now. One day this country will fall. All that will be left is the evil that has grown increasingly over the short decades of just my long life. One is a part of it, or one removes oneself through the living Jesus Christ.
Edit: Few people realize that also on that plane was Chuck McKee who was at his Beirut CIA post. Bob Baer wrote a short bit in chapter twelve, page 132 in his excellent book, ‘See No Evil.’ It’s prudent to realize that as nasty and underhanded as our government’s alphabet institutions are, there are truly good men within whose only purpose is duty bound to serve our country honestly and decently, though they fight internal beasts within the very framework of their positions. They go in blind, wrapped in an American flag with the best intent to change the wrongs, never believing they’ll lose that battle. They may be few, they may be unsung (and actually they are, as most everyone lumps all members under one canopy) but they are there, at least until the beasts within won’t allow those few good men to serve the way they believe. They are forced to conform or forced out. They leave dejected and torn, as belittled by their government as the rest of the common people holding no power. I could urge people to think of this but also realize that too much time has passed where those few good are even fewer, a minuscule number among the beasts who run things. Reading comments from most documentaries is indicative of the mindset of the uneducated masses. We live in perilous times that are deescalating at a furious pace. Look at the government we’ve had since after WWII. Well, those who are old enough and those few who read comprehensively enough to understand. Most people never read history at all. They feed on tiny sound bites and are keen to tell everyone else that they know everything. They know nothing, and they are the majority.
Now answer this, there were South African ministers that were told to cancel their tickets on this flight and to take the next flight. What did certain people know about this flight?
The same as the people who were told not to turn up for work on 911?
SA Ministers?. Thats remarkable
I lived in S.A. at that time. I heard many rumours about Lockerbie bombing, but that one was soon debunked. Conspiracy theorists love to add their crazed ideas, but can cause extreme pain to victims or survivors.
Al Megrahi was released on 2009 on compassionate grounds due to Prostate Cancer after serving 8 years behind bars.
That’s really hard big love for all the victims and their family members ❤❤
What a slap in the face to the victims. All over oil 🛢
The background music in this is so loud! How did the editor not notice.
I'm going through comments to see if anyone said anything about it! I've just started to watch this but think I have to give up as its so distracting
This is beyond sad , what an awful way USA handled all of it omg
Rest in peace to all who were lost
It hurts me to think the United States didn’t care
Yeah it’s crazy. Like why didn’t they send the F.B.I. To investigate and stop them????
@@andycavanaugh1219Because the FBI is too busy spying on and intimidating the citizens of the United States to occupy themselves with anything else.
So sad
What is this a fckn musical?’ Cut the music 😂 got damn
So true
The piano music is too loud and distracting
Air India Flight AI182 "Emperor Kanishka" was bombed on 23rd June 1985 over the Atlantic Ocean leading to 329 innocent lives lost.
It was not, as the memorials say, a 'disaster'. It was an 'atrocity'.
The white-haired woman which she did so much, and her husband were both Greek-Americans. It always hits harder when it hits closer to home. I might be only Greek, but I still feel the same for our diaspora in the US/Australia/Canada.
Yes shameful that the gov't didn't inform the victim's families whom 6:51 died on flight PanAm 103.
It has always been about the oil and money. It has been like that from then till now.
Alex Salmond died recently and the positive comments about him inevitably followed. But I remember him for releasing the terrorist who was partly responsible for this atrocity. If you don’t serve a full sentence for this, what do you serve a full sentence for??!
What has this to do with Gadaffi?
He later admitted involvement.
@@stoobydootoo4098 only when he wanted to butter up Tony Blair and Bill Clinton. That was generally believed to be a diplomatic move.