@coachobispersonalworkoutti2223 Definitely still must be maintained in the west. Women should never be complacent. A good example is the USA. Women are losing reproductive rights.
Tampons are classified as a luxury good and taxed. SA cases, which overwhelmingly happen to women, are notoriously difficult to win. Women are less than half of legislatures, and have never been president. And, most importantly, in my opinion, women on average have a lower net worth than men, and money is power.
The U.S. already had female candidates. The reason they didn't win was because women didn't vote for them. If all women would have voted for one candidate, that would have been the winner.
Also in two working parent women are more likely to do more of the cleaning, even if they're the breadwinners. We're literally happier as single mothers.
From my personal point of view as a man who was brought up within a feminist household and constantly strives against patriarchal thinking I know that I still have patriarchal thoughts. I don't know that equality can truly exist while I still succumb to unequal thoughts, because as much as I can actively police my thoughts, my subconscious is still working away and there will always be subtle results of that that I will miss. My question to the teen boys would be, "how often do you find yourself correcting the way you think and behave to treat women equally?" If they can give examples then they are on the right track. If they say they don't or don't need to then that would be my way to challenge either their lack of awareness or their built-in patriarchal thoughts that say "I'm perfect - it is women that have the problem." Sadly, it really is going to take generations. Thank you for this video.
Wow! That was perfectly stated! I have a teenager son, and putting the question back to him, really helps him to think deeper. Teaching critical thinking without letting them know they are learning, great job!
I think that that this job of rethinking existing structures and behaviors has to be done by men and women, as no one is really above this challenge. I know that I am not totally free of thinking/ falling into old patterns. This takes time and doesn't happen automatically.
Good on you! You realize that you have to keep policing your own thoughts, which is something everyone overcoming bigotry of any type has to do. The reality is the being bigoted (having opinions against something without really thinking about it) is often a human default mode. I will never be able to eat cooked spinach because my father brainwashed me to hate it, but I do enjoy eating cooked in other things. I just cannot, no matter how hard I try, get over my roiling stomach every time I smell plain cooked spinach. Various things will raise our biases. One of my former students, who is Chicana, was raped by a Chicano who looked a lot like her father. She knew, consciously, he wasn't her father, but the resemblance to him caused the trauma to affect her relationship with her father. Only intense counseling can help a person overcome this kind of bias. But misogyny is cultural, and I have spoken even to feminist women who have no idea that some of their thinking actually reinforced patriarchal biases. We're all still a work in progress, but we can get there.
@hefruth , what makes misogyny so insidious is that it has been humanities default setting since we began to settle and grow our food, millennia ago. However, unlike the rest of the animal population, we, humans can change how things are done. We just have to keep thinking critically and be willing to admit when things are not working and are down right harmful.
Ask any professional woman in her field, whether it’s Silicon Valley, Law, Finance, medical profession, you will see the mediocre white guy get all the praise and promotions , while most women hit the glass ceiling. And I still hear stories about doctors refusing to give birth control to women, or perform birth control procedures without husband consent? Things automatically going into my husbands name!!? I recently found out that the IRS didn’t consider a tax return filed because the wife ‘s name was first on the form! As a teenager, I was taught to be strong and independent, but I don’t think they taught that guys. The sheer number of times I’ve been objectified and dismissed, too much to count. And they JUST started to do women’s health care research recently!! Viagra covered by insurance , but birth control isn’t?? The patriarchy is alive and well.
Tbh, birth control is something which causes your partner to be kept away from the privilege of having children. So, it shouldn't be your personal decision. If you think it should be then abolish marriage altogether.
I can't speak for law and medicine, but in tech your claim is quite the opposite. Men and especially white men are actively being held back. Whether this is out of desire to appeal to left wing culture or actual held beliefs among those in power, I can't answer; however, through university and the industry after, it has been made very clear to me that White and Asian men are less than desirable
Having grown up in a Patriarchal religion that I only left at the age of 40 I can guarantee you that millions of women still live oppressed lives and often don't recognize the reality or that there is really another option. It doesn't just affect women's ability to be ordained or have church authority, but also education and career choices (or lack of them).
People care about things that directly impact them. White men don't see gender or racial issues because they don't directly impact them. I learned a lot reading The Color of Law,
Which is also why research for not white, not males is almost non-existent. 51+% of the world population will experience Menarche and/or Menopause. Yet the research for knowledge isn't found. You want to know about ED which does not affect the life and health, tons of research. Look for Endometriosis, which greatly affects thousands upon thousands of women and makes their life almost untenable. Almost nothing in research.
vickymassey1479 - Yet, it was white men who led the abolition movement, voted for women to have the right to vote, passed laws allowing black Americans to vote, and a group of old white men ruled to make Roe vs Wade a law. Yea, those old white dudes only care about themselves. Child please!
My husband is a good person. He has helped me a lot but We have been talking about this a lot lately. He really didn't understand how unsafe women are. He was shocked when I told him about how men treat us when our husband isn't there. Things like how we have t I always be on guard. Things like how we all walk each other to our cars and have keys through our fingers. Just by being born male, his life has been easier.
In the UK young women have access to birth control, paid for by the government without their parents knowing about it at age 16. That gives them the opportunity to a full education without being tied to child bearing.
While condoms are better than nothing, boys have to be willing to use them and they are not great for birth control. Women should have first class birth control since they are the ones who pay the real price for early pregnancy.
Your work is amazing. ! Thank you! Wow! I grew up in the 40’s, 50’s and 60’s in a Mormon family. I vowed I would NEVER get married and become a slave like my mother. I was lucky to discover Osho (then Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh) and that was the turning point in my life. I literally experienced love for the first time (up until then I had thought it was a cruel joke). I hadn’t even thought to read Simone de Bouvior and Betty Friedan. I’ve sent your channel to 3 people and have LOVED watching your videos for the last 3 hours. It feels like I can finally take back my full power. Whew! I’ve been writing and thinking about The Return of the Divine Feminine for YEARS…. But didn’t have this context of history. (I was still recovering from the C-PTSD of my childhood.). Your work is important and timely when so many women are finally popping out of the stupor we’ve been raised in! Thank you!
By oppressing women in the Victorian era, women provided free labor without a voice or any type of compensation, including kindness and being treated well.
That type of thing still goes on in churches, women in churches are always organizing kids groups and fun events while the men sit on the pew and just read the bible, the unpaid labor is alive and well. Or we're expected to clean up after male coworkers messes , because "not everyone cares about moldy food sitting out back" 🙄
@@sumairshirazithat defeats their argument so they have to skip past it. I doubt that this woman would willingly split the check on the date. I doubt that she would be willing to date someone who earns equal or less than her.
@@sumairshiraziNo... She wasn't ruling...she was just a symbol of tokenism of patriarchy through which patriarchy or male privilege was ruling.... Yes you are right if women would not have been supportive of patriarchal societal power structure, then PATRIARCHY won't be this successful at all... But sometimes women had no option... survival strategy was to succumb to the physically stronger gender to avoid extreme violence and with generations they just normalised or internalised it despite knowing something is wrong....
There's still social issues, like men getting violent when women don't say hi in the morning, acting like actual toddlers over not receiving emotional labor
i‘m always amazed if some man claims that feminism is pointless because there is supposedly no discrimination anymore. like… dude, even if your standard for „no oppression“ is „no visible gender-based discrimination“, you should maybe consider that there is a lot of discrimination that you don‘t see, specifically because you don‘t encounter it.
My question to answer the boys: How much time do you have? I’ve a huge list on just current reproductive rights alone, or rather the lack of for Assigned At Birth Females, not to mention the B.S. in Pro/ject 202/5. And yes, this lack of reproductive rights affect AND effect Assigned At Birth Males too. Even more so if T/rump gets to enact Pro/ject 202/5.
You men men and women. Thats the thing. We will infight in feminist groups because some of yall keep suggesting that these men can become women and also deny the fact that the reason a lot of girls want to be boys is because of abuse and trauma and internalized self hate of the feminine
@@davidlafleche1142 "Individual states have the authority to decide" so then the choice lies with the state and not the individuals who need or want an abortion.
@@chansfeet2500 If you hate babies, don't have sex. Or you could move to a state like New York, Virginia or California, where murdering babies is legal.
Note that teaching used to be a male profession, unless the students were all girls. The increasing number of women entering the profession seems to have feminised it in men's minds so fewer of them enter the profession and it gets devalued. And the feminisation also leads to an expectation of 'mothering' as part of the role. A similar framing is applied to nursing 'angels'. Note the stereotypes around male nurses.
I recently saw a news piece about an 80+ year old woman voting for the first. Why didn't she vote before? Her husband said she didnt need to. Her husband died last year...
Yes I saw that. I’m 70 and single and have seen so many of my contemporaries blossom after being widowed, pursuing studies, travelling, learning how to drive…….
I hope women vote or we'll lose 100 years of progress. The elephant analogy is perfect but my guess is the teenage boys won't have the insight to understand it.
Unfortunately, that analogy applies to women, themselves. My mind returns to the Equal Rights Amendment and its backlash. The same mindset holds true, especially in all the Abrahamic religions that see women as, at best, lesser-than and at worst, the cause of the downfall of humanity.
I'm retired now, but I always had the very strong impression that management saw all my faults were magnified and all my achievements shrunk. My co-workers, who had the best view of my work, always considered me perfectly competent. And then there's the unequal domestic load. I've seen plenty of men take an hour to relax at lunchtime, while the women were dashing out to post letters or buy craft supplies for the kids or whatever. I've heard of loads of husbands saying, "Just tell me what you want me to do," and their wives replying, "If there's a pile of dirty dishes in the sink, what do you think needs to happen? If the washer is full of wet clothes, do you have any clue what needs to happen next?"
They play dumb for house and family stuff. Let them get on what they think is a manly mission and they transform into the white knights their women fell in love with. Freaking tragedy of horrors.
White men get promoted due to meritocracy. Women and PoC are promoted due to quotas. The last place I worked, I overheard 2 managers talking. One said, "I never promote women because the guys know they don't have to listen to them." The other agreed. During a company-wide meeting, the first two people to talk were both women. One of my coworkers complained in our team chat that he was worried all the speakers this time would be women and that was taking diversity too far. (He never complained when all the speakers were men.) I pointed out his comment to our manager who refused to take action because "he didn't see the comment at the time". Less than 30 minutes had elapsed and the comment was WRITTEN IN CHAT so there was no "you misheard him" / "there's no proof he actually said that". I could spend hours on all the garbage I've heard and experienced over the years in a "meritocracy" industry.
If women truly were equal, we wouldn't be constantly having these conversations. Women still do not have equal pay and the farther up women go the less the equal representation. There are still culturural movements like Christian Nationalism today, that seek to oppress women. Until those barriers, which have often been put there by men, are gone there will never be true equality. Historically, the barriers that oppress women are exceedingly strong.
What about the Equal Rights Amendment? That only 38 states have ratified. And so it has NOT been added to the Constitution. And has basically disappeared from politics and in conversations.
I believe the nature of privilege is such that, the *more* privilege one _has,_ the *less* one _recognizes it._ Furthermore, the longer someone has lived with privilege is another factor. Someone privileged from birth never experienced disenfranchisement. But if one lived _without_ privilege and somehow _gained it,_ one would recognize that they gained something others still lack.
The idea of the mental elephant to the stake is something I have been mulling over since I discovered your channel. This is something I'll have to be more aware of as these thoughts run through my mind. The problem is that there is such a general push back against assertive women who do not spend make sure they keep themselves attractive.
Oppression of women always comes with class and racial oppression. Not only the women had limited rights, the men too had limited rights depending what class they were from.
Coming from a Latin American country, I can list a myriad of issues, such as: the judiciary system, which remains misogynistic, especially towards Black women. In Brazil, there is a law called the "Parental Alienation Law," which portrays women as vile and vindictive and, in practice, can lead to them losing custody of their children if they report their ex-husbands for any kind of abuse. There’s the "maybe baby" effect that affects all women of reproductive age. There are the high numbers of dismissals following maternity leave, the persistent 30% wage gap, and the overwhelming burden of care work for children and family.
The oppression runs from laws that discriminate against women, to expectations because you are a woman. SA is assault, yet a man walking into a police station and saying he was mugged is never asked "did you wear the wrong clothes, were you drinking, were you in the wrong part of town, could the assaulted have thought you consented to being mugged". Women still are, even if that's not supposed to happen. Judges still consider "what will this do to the man's life" when sentencing for SA, however assault on a male never seems to have that question. Expectations. If there are women in a meeting and coffee or water is needed, one of the women is expected to get it. They are also usually expected to "help clean up" as men walk out. At home, women still do the majority of housework (or womens work). During Covid, looking after kids at home generally fell on females because "men get paid better". If food needs to be cooked, shopped or put away, the expectation is to look for a woman. Women in mainly female dominated industries earn less than male counterparts. I attended a cross departmental govt meeting. We were aged care, the other department was housing. One manager was complaining about his staff and having to work with HR about the issues. When asked, he didn't do the recruiting, training, contracts, on the job training, complaints or termination of staff. We did. He had 5 staff to look after, all in his office to see, we had an average of 15 staff working remotely. He had a caseload of 20 clients, we had an average of 150 clients. He earned 20,000 more than us. He was called a manager, we were called "service coordinators". That allowed our department to pay us less because we weren't "managers". The head of our agency told us we were deliberately called that so we would get less pay. So yes, we are still oppressed.
I'm Gen Z. My mother told me frequently throughout my teens that I don't need school as much as my brothers do. Her career was shut down by my father who wanted her to stay in the home. She tried to do the same with me. I'm going back to college even when she tried convincing me not to. Culture is still a major contributor to gender inequality.
mental rope: there is a sense that normal emoting indicates a lack of clear thinking. Yes, if one is in fight/flight/freeze/fawn the prefrontal cortex isn't working, but one can have a strained voice tone, use a louder/more forceful voice, cry, laugh, frown, smirk, or make sarcastic remarks while still being completely rational. But because paternalistic masculine culture value dispassionate theoretical debate, anyone who (maybe because the issue under discussion is likely to have a larger effect on her life) lets slip that they have any emotions can be dismissed as irrational and over-emotional... and since men were never allowed to express emotions, seeing them expressed makes them uncomfortable; so then often they are speaking in an even, unemotional tone, but they ARE in fight/flight because emotionality in general triggers the trauma networks that developed when they were denied normal human emotionality as children. His mental rope is longer, and he has fewer tangible ropes, but he is still stuck walking in circles.
I think women and male-supporters need to work together to give young men purposes beyond "bread-winner" and "sperm-donor". On the other side, women must absolutely have bodily and reproductive autonomy, just to get things started. There's a major backlash against women, but it's not women's equality young men are worried about- it's their own. They are losing ground: less educated, not sole breadwinners. There are no roles or purposes they're being guided to and they're blaming the women's equality movement for that loss.
I had to leave a six figure almost all male field because I would incite an almost violin t reaction in men if I performed as good or better; they couldn’t handle it. I thought maybe that the problem was me or that I had broken too often the first rule of the 48 Laws of Power (don’t outshine the master). But it was more connected to being female. Like I had broken the unspoken hierarchal contract life was supposed to promise them. I often had my work taken credit for by men or women they looked after (usually young attractive women. But I didn’t have problems with women on the level of men). They seemed to also see me often as a symbol, not an individual, and I’d be a proxy they could take out anger about their wives or sisters on. I also got a lot of weird hatred for being overweight and unattractive, which had nothing to do with my job performance. Cognitive bias against me was so strong at one job, a group of men told HR I was too slow and were trying to document that to get rid of me. However, they kept stats on our speed. It turns out I was the second-fastest person, but I also had three different jobs while most of them had one. They were so inclined to be biased against me the bias literally overrode the reality in front of them. At that particular job, I actually did get some apologies and I think one man recognized he was taking out his resentment at his sister exploiting (in his mind) his parents on me. But it doesn’t negate that their bias was so wildly incorrect it caused me a lot of trouble. For what it’s worth, this seemed to escalate and get out of control once Trump came into office. I’m not trying to be political but I’ve had more issues over the past decade than earlier in my life. I also attribute this to the rise in violin t corn and red pill ideology. Realizing corn was really affecting men, I went onto corn hub one day to see what in the heck they were watching and randomly picked a few videos. I was absolutely horrified to see that except for one that seemed to have mutual consent, they were all these weird scenarios of humbling a female authority figure or woman with a little power through grape. That wasn’t the category I picked. But it was clear corn has NOTHING to do with s ex. It’s about revenge and humiliation and even permanent physical harm. I never looked at men corn users the same after that and will never date a man who watches it.
I am so sorry for what you’ve had to go through. I hope you would think about writing about your experiences. Young professional women are experiencing these atrocities daily and learning how to address these periods of conflict would be very helpful. But first I’d get some helpful counseling for all the trauma you have experienced at the hands of your peers and coworkers. Many CONGRATULATIONS for All your UnRecognized Accomplishments and UnAppreciated Hardworker❣️🇺🇸❣️
As a software developer, I find this to be very relatable. I’ve been ignored, picked on, teased/bullied, undermined, been treated as *this* and at the same time, in contradiction, *that*, and assaulted. While I’ve not had the career progression i would like, I’ve only ever been told that I’m good at my job. But this is what makes it feel so disappointing.
It just kills me that Human Rights have to specify that this includes both male and female, white and not white. Can't just assume it applies to literally all humans equally 🧐♀️
I'm an octogenerian that was raised in the 1940s. I find that, although we made some strides forward, especially in the 1970s, women are still well in the 2nd class citizen classification. AND since the 2010s we're losing ground fast! The elephant and the stake is a prefect illustration... thanx for that! We have equal rights laws for nearly everyone *except* women! I'm so glad to see you standing up for our rights! And educating... teenage boys is good except we primarily need that education for women!
Hard disagree at the end. Boys need a different and better system of ideas so that the current young generation stops the cycles that have held not just women, but also sexual, ethnic, and religious minorities back. Women's rights stick when men agree to let go. A lot of men's rights are gained by drinking from the poisoned chalice that is male gender roles and expectations. The key to saving and empowering women, is to cease binding men with toxic chains. That starts with education. EVERYONE needs to know what patriarchy is doing to harm them, and why they personally should reject it.
The thing is any time I see history about yt women's struggles I can't help but think that Black women have never had the privilege of being seen as the dainty damsel, or the sweet virginal housewife, but they have HAD to work as maids, mammies, all sorts of terrible labor and black women today still earn the lowest yet have the highest degrees by gender & race intersectionally. I don't say these things to downplay yt women's struggle, I say it to say the lense in which I watch feminism throughout history bc through a Black woman's lense, labor has always been something that had to be done, being a housewife wasn't a privilege afforded to us and having a husband who could support us with that kind of money. So it's a different perspective. That's why womanism and Black feminism are really important too because the struggles do differ. Labor struggles for P.O.C. women are different. No criticism of the video though it's excellently done and I learned a lot. I never knew what a riveter was actually! I wonder how history for women's rights would have turned out had there not been a world war 1 and/or 2. The reason I say that is there wouldn't be that big push to put women to work but one could argue that after the war steps went backwards and further delayed progress. I guess I'm wondering how progressive would women working be without the war propaganda to push it? I really wonder that. 👀
I am so thankful I found your channel, it helps me understand better, and I have all these thoughts but you put them in order and you explain it simply, so everyone can understand 🌸
I mean, if we are talking laws, how 'bout that whole Roe vs. Wade thing? Women are now bleeding out in parking lots because they have lost the ability to determine what happens to their own bodies and doctors are afraid to treat them. I think that goes way beyond oppression. But the law doesn't always figure into it. Despite the fact that many households have dual income earners, statistically, who is still doing the majority of the housework? Who is still the primary caregiver for children?
I work at a slighly progressive law firm. We have just over 50 % of our Partners are women, the three managing partners are women. But all of our women lawers will tell you of moments when they were asked to get coffee, when they were asked to take notes at the meeting. Deep held assumptions that the secretary is a woman’s roll, geting coffee is a woman’s role. Most women work, then go home and manage the home, dinner, kids, shopping, cleaning. Husbands are proud to say they HELP. Help, means its her job but they help her. In governance, mayors and local politicians are still around 20 to 30% women, federal reps, less. And as we all know, women have never lead this country. Oh, yeah, and that picky thing about being able to decide who LIVES INISDE OF US, THREATENING OUR HEALTH AND EVEN LIFES. Yeah, that.
I don't understand why it's not being more. Publicly discussed, very crucial aspect is the lack of enforcement of child support. It is what keeps women at a substantial disadvantage over men. By the time they hit 50 years old, even if they were working, if they've raised children. A very large percentage did not receive the appropriate child support. In 2023 $113 BILLION is owed in child support
I often find myself in the position in group projects (especially in the north it seems for some reason) of insisting that women speak up & not discount their own ideas or passions. I think a lot of us grow up with this conditioning regardless of gender, but it's worse for women for sure
Hi, you are good voice for women. A thought for your next post: did we think it would that essy to „break down patriarchy“ (i know you meant it not that way.) Of course they fight back! And it is their right to do so. Which means, right now WE have to be the strategists of how to preserve what we fought for. And yes, obedience and the role of „real women“ were taught to us for millenia. Do not allow them to feel weak and give in. And yes, there are men out there too, who are willing to help. Heads up! Lets strategize.
Things definitely are not equal. Bigotry and sexism are still a major problem and part of the mindset of people. I know someone who thinks Kamala Harris (president candidate) shouldn’t be president because she’s a woman. It’s ridiculous really.
A bit out of context: I prefer having a daughter, boy are turbulent. Some moms say “daughters require too much work, I prefer a boy” and her’s is the little sh*t, you see raging at the playground. The one you ask yourself “Where the F are your parents?” For those women as expectations towards them have always been unequal, their expectations towards their girls and boys are unequal. Raising a child well is a difficult, so this is the reason why for some, boys are easier than girls. I see this in more then 50% of the moms around me
We are not even close to have equal rights or equal responsibilities. When I had three kids 35% of my income went towards childcare or only $4,000 per year was tax free. I was taxed on the remaining $21,000 as part of my income. Yet items such as "entertainment ", including business visits to strip clubs are considered necessary and therefore a tax deduction. In college we had pool parties that opened up the locker rooms to both genders and we learned that men's locker rooms and saunas were twice as big as women's. Hospitals. routinely discriminate against women with items like showers are available to men, but not women. Only men are considered for department heads. When I worked as a nurse aide the men were paid 2 to 3 times as much as men for the same job. The Boy Scouts are much better funded than the Girl Scouts so my boys went to camp every year. My girl once in 12 years. I can go on and on.
That baby elephant story is such a good illustration to encourage us to challenge what we "know" and get more curious about social beliefs and how they shape our concept of how humans "should" be.
Hi. I totally get the elephant metaphor. I still would love a video discussing examples of systemic opression today. Also, I am really interested in knowing your thoughts on the 'gender equality paradox'. Thanks for this valueble content. Its helping me clarifying a lot of concepts 😊
I believe I believe I’m a kind soul Peaceful and benevolent I believe in truth, in honesty and loyalty I believe in compassion and kindness And if you come to my door in need I will let you in, for I believe in you And if you deceive me, I will not blame you And I will set the table with the king’s feast Candles and Sunday’s best For I believe in lenity and grace And if you lie to me, I will know why And look within to my own faults and frailties So that I may become a better friend As I believe in commitment And when you use me and abuse me I will change my ways For I know no journey is without pain and obstacles And demands hard work and purpose And when you steal from me Criticize and chastise me Belittle the very meal I laboured on for you I will cry in silence as not to trouble you For I believe I believe I’m a kind soul Peaceful and benevolent I believe in truth, respect and dignity So will you forgive me now For I cannot believe In me - with you Goodbye friend
Nurses used to be paid poorly until the silent generation retired. Then bang, nurses got paid better just so hospitals could attract talent. Guess who wants to be nurses? Men. Ok, so when do men want to be teachers or aids? The premise is that a young teacher will have parents or a husband to support her. No, most of us are single parents ourselves with deceased parents, FUDGE! Student loans are even worse, no way to pay back from our pay! Add up 150 additional hours of continuing education to keep our licenses valid. This is a crime. College professors who are predominantly not tenure also make nothing.
Maybe anecdotal, but I went to my Daughter’s RN graduation last summer. Maybe sixty in class. Maybe three or five men. Sorry I can’t be more exact, it was months ago and I don’t think I actually counted at the time.
Thanks for your channel. I'm not certain the elephant story is universally true, if at all. Perhaps if they are kept in the same space, but not if they are moved and exposed to different terrain. I've watched the response of elephants who had chains removed, and they danced! They explored their new and different surroundings and followed other elephants. Let's give ourselves the same opportunity. Hang with creative people and explore fabulous terrain! Let's check ourselves for memes and beliefs that don't serve us now, and notice the peeps, and daily life that reinforce them. Then rinse and repeat - change the hang withs and terrain.
It can easily be seen in sports competitions and the fact that it is separated into men and women. Men still have higher prize purses. Bigger sponsorships, more merchandise made around team members and teams in general, and more advertising and hype and there fore more people watching creating a feed back loop that men’s sports and sports competitions are better. This can absolutely be seen with Women’s Basketball, women’s football (where they have to be sexualized in their uniforms, women’s soccer, women’s tennis, women’s surfing (which finally got to equal prize money only in the last few years) etc etc all the way into women’s competitive eating competitions of which used to be non gendered and a woman was the reigning champion for years until they decided to divide it. You can also see the mental blocks when the questions are posed “What if a trans man competes as a woman? It will be unfair to women.” I have also heard “ What if a trans woman competes with men? It will be unfair to her.” I often hear men saying “watching women’s sports is boring. Just face it the men’s competitions are more dynamic more exciting.” Shortly followed by some degrading sexual comments about the female competitors. Then I hear women saying that they’re not as strong or a fast or as naturally talented as men and that they’re not going to be as good at certain sports because men are just naturally better at it. It makes me so sad and angry all at once. 😢
Fortune 500’s mostly run by men, women not 50% of the US House or Senate, never had a female US President. I took 3 weeks vacation pay and returned to work after C~Section no paid leave! Women earn 82% of what men earn (US avg) working full time.
I like the analogy of the elephant in comparison to the cultural phantoms of our past. I also think it's important to draw attention to women being pushed/encouraged back into the domestic household setting while men took over their jobs. But it seems fallacious to imply that because women's jobs were taken away in the past that they'll be taken away in the future. Or, at least, that's how your argument came across. I think a more relatable and compelling argument would be a comparison of men's health rights versus women's. While there's still pockets of cultural phantom misogyny, I think attacking the fixable problems would be more fundamental at extinguishing remaining cultural phantoms. Also, for those who want to identify as feminists, it might be helpful to speak on the type of feminism you're promoting.
Honestly people forget that for Centuries women were able to do basically do every Job besides Pope. They Reign equally to men p.ex. Queen Mathilda, Queen Adelheid, Queen Theophanu. That was more than 1000 years ago. In the 15 th century there we're several uprisings in tyrol, franconia and the regions we know call Swiss, because the rich were trying to Take away womens rights to inherent, lead a Business. Those we're successfull. Until the so called "civil rights movement". Prior to the civill rights movement, men and women had the same rights based in their social gender (Noblesse, craftsman, enslaved). Feminism is Not something new. It is als old as humanity. Because misoginy is something only affordable for privileged. Look at Island, sweden, norway those countries were dirt poor for ages. Because its soil and climate is so tough to survive on. Now women are in a much safer place there than anywhere else.
economic gender inequality is institutionalized through the lower pay, power, and respect for feminized jobs--health care aides, hospitality industry and restaurant workers, domestics, retail, garment, electronics. A $30 minimum wage, universal free daycare, and unionization would be a major step toward women's economic equality, elevate working class and minority women, and be a blow to patriarchy.
In 2005, when I moved to the UK from the US for a named chair at a university, my husband had not yet found work, but the bank put all of our accounts with his name as the primary account holder.
It's not only about laws, is also about culture, and custom. Foolish people cannot understand that the situation is not as simple and straight forward as it appears. They don't yet have the right of equal pay for equal work, for example, by culture, custom, and lack of legal framework.
Usually it is enough to ask if women are allowed to do the same thing as men. Will you treat the woman who smokes and drink the same as a man? Is it okay for a man to have one night stand, and if it is okay for a woman. Is a woman with muscles and no makeup as attractive as a man. In many 'man' fields that might not require excessive strength, women are still treated as freaks. Say gamedev, welding, or farms. Even if you manage to get the skill, men would rather choose men for those positions. Ofc, western countries are more open. But if it is Asia or Muslim country, the inequality in opportunities is still huge.
Most U.S. states have failed to amend their constitution to include and equal rights amendment. This measure alone does not solve more than a few issues, with maybe a few more over time. By itself it’s not sufficient, but is still required to move forward.
I like Amy McPhie Allebest. I was so excited to see her channel that I broke my rule of not putting comments in the comment section, but I know it may help her channel grow so here I am breaking my own rules. I think the teen boys may be tryin to express frustration with a lot of the focus of progress for women has kind of come at the neglect of men. One example Significantly less men in college now than women and that fact has been met with applause every time I've heard this brought up in graduation ceremonies. It's easy to see that men are often being left out. Those boys may not have had the words to put that emotion into the correct perception but I still think it's a valid emotion. This is what I like about Breaking Down Patriarchy. I think she uses feminism to offer challenges to the current systems in place in a way that benefits both women and men. Hopefully there will be a day that those boys may be able to see that.
Personally, I was affected by the ongoing misogyny because my mother was never legally allowed to use birth control, so she got pregnant 12 times, miscarrying twice before I was born as her last live birth. Then, in 1969, married women were FINALLY allowed to use birth control, but, in many states, they still had to have their husband's consent. I will never forget 2 things in my young life. First, one of my sisters, who was married to an alcoholic, asked my parents to start a bank account for her without telling her husband because SHE couldn't do it without his permission, but he was drinking their money away. Second, I was denied the right to take a drafting class my senior year of high school because the principal said, "girls don't become architects." When I pleaded with my parents to fight the principal's decision, my father agreed with the principal! Even after I proved them both wrong, I was not allowed to take the class. That was in 1981.
Much of this is taken only in the context of Whyte women... not *the experience of all women* Look at even the images. So Women's Suffrage ignored the plight of BIPOC women, which was such a huge disservice.
Women are still oppressed. What a shame the speaker wasted 10 min. time and didn’t even share what she purports to be an expert opinion. The history wasn’t helpful. What would have been helpful would have been examples of how women are better off than we’ve been historically and examples of how things have not changed so much. Or at least it would have been a more honest representation of the title of the video.
@patirvin-bz9pgSo, criticism is warranted. Even viewing this through the framing device of the two teenage boys, the person failed to answer their questions. Trying to do something warrants enough respect, that when the attempt is bad, we can be honest about the quality, what went wrong, and what should be done better.
So, here's the problem with your great breakdown: You're focusing on the tied elephant in women's minds. Women's rights become substantial when men buy in. Make no mistake: women being better off is actually better off for men as well. The problem with patriarchy is that it's a bad system for everyone but those at the very top. The point of patriarchy, contrary to what many feminists believe is not "Men win." The point of patriarchy is to ensure power is passed down to the next generation of patriarchs. Let's talk about those teenage boys. There's two possibilities. Either, A) they were genuinely curious and genuinely don't see limitations on women and femininity, or B) They're already indoctrinated into patriarchal thinking, and the question is rhetorical trolling. If it's A, telling them about the elephant thing isn't going to help, because you didn't answer their questions. There are unspoken questions hiding in that! 'What are the real problems?' 'What can we do to help?' 'Am I to blame for your unsolved problems?' 'Am I the baddie?' A better answer was the stuff you enumerated at the start of this video: "No, women do not have equal rights. We do not receive equal medical care, we do not recieve the same level of autonomy and authority, we do not enjoy equal levels of personal security. These are all problems of both practice and policy. If you want to make things better, help women solve problems in good faith and without romantic ulterior motives." The lack of competence in feminist communication is what leads men to believe that Feminism means, "Women win", and as a result, not support ideas that could make things better for everyone. I suspect that Kamala Harris will lose the 2024 elections because Feminism hasn't included boys and men in the process of building a better world, but keeps telling men they are the enemy. If you tell someone they're your enemy, why would they support your efforts to expand your rights or powers?
Interesting comment, but feminism means choices in its most basic form. Where the confusion comes into play, is when men see it as a contest. They ask themselves, "Will men win if we agree with the demands of these women, or will we be oppressed and told what to do by these women?" It is not a contest. Take ego out of the equation, if you can. But my take is men cannot take ego out of the equation. It's just not possible.
Yes, but you didn’t answer your own self-posed question: what LAWS discriminate against women in the United States?? [Note 3 things: 1) Women voters outnumber men voters, and women vote more than men in the U.S.… the representatives and laws the U.S. are now decided on by women. 2) There are many laws and legal procedures in the U.S. that discriminate against men. 3) The “playing field” is not equal, and apparently, women don’t want it that way.]
I agree with most of your premise but go look at the standford study on what legislation is put in place separated by economic status. It's not men vs women, it's the rich vs the poor
@ Hi Trevor. I was not addressing economic disparities in my comment. I find it tiresome that people pretend that women have no voting or political power in the U.S.. That is all I was reacting to. [If memory serves, the number of women millionaires in the U.S. surpassed the number of men millionaires back in the 1970s. So, even tho I do not wish to address this topic, because my opinion is that the issues of elites and constituencies and legislation is a lot more complicated than is typically taught in government departments at universities, or is reflected in the typical refereed literature on the topic, I still think that people constantly misinterpret whether women hold political power in the U.S.. But as I said, it’s complicated.]
There are still social attitudes among some classes... but then you've also got the feminist mother I know who treats her boys like trash and elevates and spoils her daughter because she hates men.
So you know one person who treats their sons bady. Compare that to all the "Boy Moms" who talk about how wonderful boys are and how grateful they are to not have girls because "girls create drama and are so hard to raise."
now youtube deleted this and I have no idea why because this is exactly what I said and I repeat it again: feminism is about equality so this mother is not a feminist.
@@modernwonder Perhaps "misandrist" would have been the correct term. But I know SO MANY self-labeled "feminists" who are actually misandrists. Some of them have good reasons to hate certain men, but not to treat all men like scum.
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In some respects women are still oppressed.
Feminism must always be maintained.
In Asia and Africa Yes. not in the West
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Definitely still must be maintained in the west.
Women should never be complacent.
A good example is the USA. Women are losing reproductive rights.
@@coachobispersonalworkoutti2223 Women everywhere live in fear of male violence. Women in the West too - including being kidnapped and trafficked.
@@coachobispersonalworkoutti2223Yes, in the West. In the US women lost their healthcare rights.
@@coachobispersonalworkoutti2223Just because you don’t acknowledge it, it’s still there. Sounds like a butthurt dude from the ‘West’.
Tampons are classified as a luxury good and taxed. SA cases, which overwhelmingly happen to women, are notoriously difficult to win. Women are less than half of legislatures, and have never been president. And, most importantly, in my opinion, women on average have a lower net worth than men, and money is power.
Your comments are always spot on, keep rockin 😎🔥
Over 100,000 rape kits are not processed within a year, insufficient funds to pay for it.
The U.S. already had female candidates. The reason they didn't win was because women didn't vote for them. If all women would have voted for one candidate, that would have been the winner.
That's cause other women don't support women in power. And even if women are in power it's the men she needs to rely on.
Also in two working parent women are more likely to do more of the cleaning, even if they're the breadwinners. We're literally happier as single mothers.
From my personal point of view as a man who was brought up within a feminist household and constantly strives against patriarchal thinking I know that I still have patriarchal thoughts. I don't know that equality can truly exist while I still succumb to unequal thoughts, because as much as I can actively police my thoughts, my subconscious is still working away and there will always be subtle results of that that I will miss. My question to the teen boys would be, "how often do you find yourself correcting the way you think and behave to treat women equally?" If they can give examples then they are on the right track. If they say they don't or don't need to then that would be my way to challenge either their lack of awareness or their built-in patriarchal thoughts that say "I'm perfect - it is women that have the problem." Sadly, it really is going to take generations. Thank you for this video.
Wow! That was perfectly stated! I have a teenager son, and putting the question back to him, really helps him to think deeper. Teaching critical thinking without letting them know they are learning, great job!
I think that that this job of rethinking existing structures and behaviors has to be done by men and women, as no one is really above this challenge. I know that I am not totally free of thinking/ falling into old patterns. This takes time and doesn't happen automatically.
Sounds like 1984 to me. People have the right to think what they want. Patriarchy or no. Sorry.
Good on you! You realize that you have to keep policing your own thoughts, which is something everyone overcoming bigotry of any type has to do. The reality is the being bigoted (having opinions against something without really thinking about it) is often a human default mode. I will never be able to eat cooked spinach because my father brainwashed me to hate it, but I do enjoy eating cooked in other things. I just cannot, no matter how hard I try, get over my roiling stomach every time I smell plain cooked spinach. Various things will raise our biases. One of my former students, who is Chicana, was raped by a Chicano who looked a lot like her father. She knew, consciously, he wasn't her father, but the resemblance to him caused the trauma to affect her relationship with her father. Only intense counseling can help a person overcome this kind of bias. But misogyny is cultural, and I have spoken even to feminist women who have no idea that some of their thinking actually reinforced patriarchal biases. We're all still a work in progress, but we can get there.
@hefruth , what makes misogyny so insidious is that it has been humanities default setting since we began to settle and grow our food, millennia ago. However, unlike the rest of the animal population, we, humans can change how things are done. We just have to keep thinking critically and be willing to admit when things are not working and are down right harmful.
Ask any professional woman in her field, whether it’s Silicon Valley, Law, Finance, medical profession, you will see the mediocre white guy get all the praise and promotions , while most women hit the glass ceiling.
And I still hear stories about doctors refusing to give birth control to women, or perform birth control procedures without husband consent? Things automatically going into my husbands name!!? I recently found out that the IRS didn’t consider a tax return filed because the wife ‘s name was first on the form!
As a teenager, I was taught to be strong and independent, but I don’t think they taught that guys. The sheer number of times I’ve been objectified and dismissed, too much to count.
And they JUST started to do women’s health care research recently!! Viagra covered by insurance , but birth control isn’t?? The patriarchy is alive and well.
Sadly yes😢
I haven't had that problem with IRS. I'm always listed first.
Tbh, birth control is something which causes your partner to be kept away from the privilege of having children. So, it shouldn't be your personal decision. If you think it should be then abolish marriage altogether.
I can't speak for law and medicine, but in tech your claim is quite the opposite. Men and especially white men are actively being held back. Whether this is out of desire to appeal to left wing culture or actual held beliefs among those in power, I can't answer; however, through university and the industry after, it has been made very clear to me that White and Asian men are less than desirable
Having grown up in a Patriarchal religion that I only left at the age of 40 I can guarantee you that millions of women still live oppressed lives and often don't recognize the reality or that there is really another option. It doesn't just affect women's ability to be ordained or have church authority, but also education and career choices (or lack of them).
People care about things that directly impact them. White men don't see gender or racial issues because they don't directly impact them. I learned a lot reading The Color of Law,
You ain't wrong
Which is also why research for not white, not males is almost non-existent. 51+% of the world population will experience Menarche and/or Menopause. Yet the research for knowledge isn't found. You want to know about ED which does not affect the life and health, tons of research. Look for Endometriosis, which greatly affects thousands upon thousands of women and makes their life almost untenable. Almost nothing in research.
vickymassey1479 - Yet, it was white men who led the abolition movement, voted for women to have the right to vote, passed laws allowing black Americans to vote, and a group of old white men ruled to make Roe vs Wade a law.
Yea, those old white dudes only care about themselves. Child please!
Too true!
My husband is a good person. He has helped me a lot but We have been talking about this a lot lately. He really didn't understand how unsafe women are. He was shocked when I told him about how men treat us when our husband isn't there. Things like how we have t I always be on guard. Things like how we all walk each other to our cars and have keys through our fingers. Just by being born male, his life has been easier.
In the UK young women have access to birth control, paid for by the government without their parents knowing about it at age 16. That gives them the opportunity to a full education without being tied to child bearing.
Young people have access to free condoms , and sexual and reproductive health care is free at point of service
While condoms are better than nothing, boys have to be willing to use them and they are not great for birth control. Women should have first class birth control since they are the ones who pay the real price for early pregnancy.
I had this privilege in the US in the 70s but we have lost it
@@katanaki3059ummm, the us has never had free health care.
@@tanyanguyen3704no but if she lived in a city that had free clinics or Planned parenthood she could get birth control there.
Your work is amazing. ! Thank you! Wow! I grew up in the 40’s, 50’s and 60’s in a Mormon family. I vowed I would NEVER get married and become a slave like my mother. I was lucky to discover Osho (then Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh) and that was the turning point in my life. I literally experienced love for the first time (up until then I had thought it was a cruel joke). I hadn’t even thought to read Simone de Bouvior and Betty Friedan. I’ve sent your channel to 3 people and have LOVED watching your videos for the last 3 hours. It feels like I can finally take back my full power. Whew! I’ve been writing and thinking about The Return of the Divine Feminine for YEARS…. But didn’t have this context of history. (I was still recovering from the C-PTSD of my childhood.). Your work is important and timely when so many women are finally popping out of the stupor we’ve been raised in! Thank you!
By oppressing women in the Victorian era, women provided free labor without a voice or any type of compensation, including kindness and being treated well.
That type of thing still goes on in churches, women in churches are always organizing kids groups and fun events while the men sit on the pew and just read the bible, the unpaid labor is alive and well. Or we're expected to clean up after male coworkers messes , because "not everyone cares about moldy food sitting out back" 🙄
Wasn't the monarch a woman though who was ruling
@@sumairshirazithat defeats their argument so they have to skip past it. I doubt that this woman would willingly split the check on the date. I doubt that she would be willing to date someone who earns equal or less than her.
@@sumairshiraziNo... She wasn't ruling...she was just a symbol of tokenism of patriarchy through which patriarchy or male privilege was ruling....
Yes you are right if women would not have been supportive of patriarchal societal power structure, then PATRIARCHY won't be this successful at all... But sometimes women had no option... survival strategy was to succumb to the physically stronger gender to avoid extreme violence and with generations they just normalised or internalised it despite knowing something is wrong....
And to this day our economic systems are predicated on vast amounts of unpaid, unaccounted for female labour.
There's still social issues, like men getting violent when women don't say hi in the morning, acting like actual toddlers over not receiving emotional labor
That's your personal issue.
i‘m always amazed if some man claims that feminism is pointless because there is supposedly no discrimination anymore. like… dude, even if your standard for „no oppression“ is „no visible gender-based discrimination“, you should maybe consider that there is a lot of discrimination that you don‘t see, specifically because you don‘t encounter it.
My question to answer the boys:
How much time do you have?
I’ve a huge list on just current reproductive rights alone, or rather the lack of for Assigned At Birth Females, not to mention the B.S. in Pro/ject 202/5. And yes, this lack of reproductive rights affect AND effect Assigned At Birth Males too. Even more so if T/rump gets to enact Pro/ject 202/5.
You men men and women. Thats the thing. We will infight in feminist groups because some of yall keep suggesting that these men can become women and also deny the fact that the reason a lot of girls want to be boys is because of abuse and trauma and internalized self hate of the feminine
No one is "assigned at birth"
The first thing that comes to mind is the repeal of Roe v. Wade.
You still have abortion rights. The 10th Amendment says that individual states have the authority to decide.
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"Individual states have the authority to decide" so then the choice lies with the state and not the individuals who need or want an abortion.
So not everybody in the U.S. still has rights to an abortion.@@davidlafleche1142
@@chansfeet2500 If you hate babies, don't have sex. Or you could move to a state like New York, Virginia or California, where murdering babies is legal.
@@davidlafleche1142how is it m*rd*r*ng babies?
We still pay women less, by paying women dominated professions poorly. Hi, Teachers!
And nurses!
Note that teaching used to be a male profession, unless the students were all girls. The increasing number of women entering the profession seems to have feminised it in men's minds so fewer of them enter the profession and it gets devalued. And the feminisation also leads to an expectation of 'mothering' as part of the role. A similar framing is applied to nursing 'angels'. Note the stereotypes around male nurses.
I live in the Oppressed Zone of the United States. Misogyny is alive and well in Oklahoma.
I recently saw a news piece about an 80+ year old woman voting for the first. Why didn't she vote before? Her husband said she didnt need to. Her husband died last year...
Happens frequently
Yes I saw that. I’m 70 and single and have seen so many of my contemporaries blossom after being widowed, pursuing studies, travelling, learning how to drive…….
I hope women vote or we'll lose 100 years of progress. The elephant analogy is perfect but my guess is the teenage boys won't have the insight to understand it.
Unfortunately, that analogy applies to women, themselves. My mind returns to the Equal Rights Amendment and its backlash. The same mindset holds true, especially in all the Abrahamic religions that see women as, at best, lesser-than and at worst, the cause of the downfall of humanity.
Women did vote and still a douchebag man was elected over a woman.
As far as I could tell, there were no elephants in the voting booth.
I'm retired now, but I always had the very strong impression that management saw all my faults were magnified and all my achievements shrunk. My co-workers, who had the best view of my work, always considered me perfectly competent.
And then there's the unequal domestic load. I've seen plenty of men take an hour to relax at lunchtime, while the women were dashing out to post letters or buy craft supplies for the kids or whatever. I've heard of loads of husbands saying, "Just tell me what you want me to do," and their wives replying, "If there's a pile of dirty dishes in the sink, what do you think needs to happen? If the washer is full of wet clothes, do you have any clue what needs to happen next?"
They play dumb for house and family stuff. Let them get on what they think is a manly mission and they transform into the white knights their women fell in love with. Freaking tragedy of horrors.
White men get promoted due to meritocracy. Women and PoC are promoted due to quotas.
The last place I worked, I overheard 2 managers talking. One said, "I never promote women because the guys know they don't have to listen to them." The other agreed.
During a company-wide meeting, the first two people to talk were both women. One of my coworkers complained in our team chat that he was worried all the speakers this time would be women and that was taking diversity too far. (He never complained when all the speakers were men.) I pointed out his comment to our manager who refused to take action because "he didn't see the comment at the time". Less than 30 minutes had elapsed and the comment was WRITTEN IN CHAT so there was no "you misheard him" / "there's no proof he actually said that".
I could spend hours on all the garbage I've heard and experienced over the years in a "meritocracy" industry.
If women truly were equal, we wouldn't be constantly having these conversations. Women still do not have equal pay and the farther up women go the less the equal representation. There are still culturural movements like Christian Nationalism today, that seek to oppress women. Until those barriers, which have often been put there by men, are gone there will never be true equality. Historically, the barriers that oppress women are exceedingly strong.
What about the Equal Rights Amendment? That only 38 states have ratified. And so it has NOT been added to the Constitution. And has basically disappeared from politics and in conversations.
Exactly! The fact that there is still not willingness to ratify shows how behind culturally we (the Representatives and their constituents) still are
I believe the nature of privilege is such that, the *more* privilege one _has,_ the *less* one _recognizes it._ Furthermore, the longer someone has lived with privilege is another factor. Someone privileged from birth never experienced disenfranchisement. But if one lived _without_ privilege and somehow _gained it,_ one would recognize that they gained something others still lack.
The idea of the mental elephant to the stake is something I have been mulling over since I discovered your channel. This is something I'll have to be more aware of as these thoughts run through my mind. The problem is that there is such a general push back against assertive women who do not spend make sure they keep themselves attractive.
Oppression of women always comes with class and racial oppression. Not only the women had limited rights, the men too had limited rights depending what class they were from.
Coming from a Latin American country, I can list a myriad of issues, such as: the judiciary system, which remains misogynistic, especially towards Black women. In Brazil, there is a law called the "Parental Alienation Law," which portrays women as vile and vindictive and, in practice, can lead to them losing custody of their children if they report their ex-husbands for any kind of abuse. There’s the "maybe baby" effect that affects all women of reproductive age. There are the high numbers of dismissals following maternity leave, the persistent 30% wage gap, and the overwhelming burden of care work for children and family.
I blame the Roman Catholic Church! They have so much to answer for.
The oppression runs from laws that discriminate against women, to expectations because you are a woman. SA is assault, yet a man walking into a police station and saying he was mugged is never asked "did you wear the wrong clothes, were you drinking, were you in the wrong part of town, could the assaulted have thought you consented to being mugged". Women still are, even if that's not supposed to happen. Judges still consider "what will this do to the man's life" when sentencing for SA, however assault on a male never seems to have that question.
Expectations. If there are women in a meeting and coffee or water is needed, one of the women is expected to get it. They are also usually expected to "help clean up" as men walk out. At home, women still do the majority of housework (or womens work). During Covid, looking after kids at home generally fell on females because "men get paid better". If food needs to be cooked, shopped or put away, the expectation is to look for a woman.
Women in mainly female dominated industries earn less than male counterparts. I attended a cross departmental govt meeting. We were aged care, the other department was housing. One manager was complaining about his staff and having to work with HR about the issues. When asked, he didn't do the recruiting, training, contracts, on the job training, complaints or termination of staff. We did. He had 5 staff to look after, all in his office to see, we had an average of 15 staff working remotely. He had a caseload of 20 clients, we had an average of 150 clients. He earned 20,000 more than us. He was called a manager, we were called "service coordinators". That allowed our department to pay us less because we weren't "managers". The head of our agency told us we were deliberately called that so we would get less pay.
So yes, we are still oppressed.
I'm Gen Z. My mother told me frequently throughout my teens that I don't need school as much as my brothers do. Her career was shut down by my father who wanted her to stay in the home. She tried to do the same with me. I'm going back to college even when she tried convincing me not to. Culture is still a major contributor to gender inequality.
Enjoy being a work wife 😂
mental rope: there is a sense that normal emoting indicates a lack of clear thinking. Yes, if one is in fight/flight/freeze/fawn the prefrontal cortex isn't working, but one can have a strained voice tone, use a louder/more forceful voice, cry, laugh, frown, smirk, or make sarcastic remarks while still being completely rational. But because paternalistic masculine culture value dispassionate theoretical debate, anyone who (maybe because the issue under discussion is likely to have a larger effect on her life) lets slip that they have any emotions can be dismissed as irrational and over-emotional... and since men were never allowed to express emotions, seeing them expressed makes them uncomfortable; so then often they are speaking in an even, unemotional tone, but they ARE in fight/flight because emotionality in general triggers the trauma networks that developed when they were denied normal human emotionality as children.
His mental rope is longer, and he has fewer tangible ropes, but he is still stuck walking in circles.
I think women and male-supporters need to work together to give young men purposes beyond "bread-winner" and "sperm-donor". On the other side, women must absolutely have bodily and reproductive autonomy, just to get things started.
There's a major backlash against women, but it's not women's equality young men are worried about- it's their own. They are losing ground: less educated, not sole breadwinners. There are no roles or purposes they're being guided to and they're blaming the women's equality movement for that loss.
They always blame us when they're not comfortable
I had to leave a six figure almost all male field because I would incite an almost violin t reaction in men if I performed as good or better; they couldn’t handle it. I thought maybe that the problem was me or that I had broken too often the first rule of the 48 Laws of Power (don’t outshine the master). But it was more connected to being female. Like I had broken the unspoken hierarchal contract life was supposed to promise them. I often had my work taken credit for by men or women they looked after (usually young attractive women. But I didn’t have problems with women on the level of men). They seemed to also see me often as a symbol, not an individual, and I’d be a proxy they could take out anger about their wives or sisters on. I also got a lot of weird hatred for being overweight and unattractive, which had nothing to do with my job performance.
Cognitive bias against me was so strong at one job, a group of men told HR I was too slow and were trying to document that to get rid of me. However, they kept stats on our speed. It turns out I was the second-fastest person, but I also had three different jobs while most of them had one. They were so inclined to be biased against me the bias literally overrode the reality in front of them. At that particular job, I actually did get some apologies and I think one man recognized he was taking out his resentment at his sister exploiting (in his mind) his parents on me. But it doesn’t negate that their bias was so wildly incorrect it caused me a lot of trouble.
For what it’s worth, this seemed to escalate and get out of control once Trump came into office. I’m not trying to be political but I’ve had more issues over the past decade than earlier in my life. I also attribute this to the rise in violin t corn and red pill ideology. Realizing corn was really affecting men, I went onto corn hub one day to see what in the heck they were watching and randomly picked a few videos. I was absolutely horrified to see that except for one that seemed to have mutual consent, they were all these weird scenarios of humbling a female authority figure or woman with a little power through grape. That wasn’t the category I picked. But it was clear corn has NOTHING to do with s ex. It’s about revenge and humiliation and even permanent physical harm. I never looked at men corn users the same after that and will never date a man who watches it.
I am so sorry for what you’ve had to go through. I hope you would think about writing about your experiences. Young professional women are experiencing these atrocities daily and learning how to address these periods of conflict would be very helpful. But first I’d get some helpful counseling for all the trauma you have experienced at the hands of your peers and coworkers.
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As a software developer, I find this to be very relatable. I’ve been ignored, picked on, teased/bullied, undermined, been treated as *this* and at the same time, in contradiction, *that*, and assaulted. While I’ve not had the career progression i would like, I’ve only ever been told that I’m good at my job. But this is what makes it feel so disappointing.
It just kills me that Human Rights have to specify that this includes both male and female, white and not white. Can't just assume it applies to literally all humans equally 🧐♀️
I'm an octogenerian that was raised in the 1940s. I find that, although we made some strides forward, especially in the 1970s, women are still well in the 2nd class citizen classification. AND since the 2010s we're losing ground fast! The elephant and the stake is a prefect illustration... thanx for that! We have equal rights laws for nearly everyone *except* women! I'm so glad to see you standing up for our rights! And educating... teenage boys is good except we primarily need that education for women!
Thank you. We need the perspective from people who remember how things really were years ago.
Hard disagree at the end. Boys need a different and better system of ideas so that the current young generation stops the cycles that have held not just women, but also sexual, ethnic, and religious minorities back.
Women's rights stick when men agree to let go. A lot of men's rights are gained by drinking from the poisoned chalice that is male gender roles and expectations.
The key to saving and empowering women, is to cease binding men with toxic chains. That starts with education.
EVERYONE needs to know what patriarchy is doing to harm them, and why they personally should reject it.
The thing is any time I see history about yt women's struggles I can't help but think that Black women have never had the privilege of being seen as the dainty damsel, or the sweet virginal housewife, but they have HAD to work as maids, mammies, all sorts of terrible labor and black women today still earn the lowest yet have the highest degrees by gender & race intersectionally. I don't say these things to downplay yt women's struggle, I say it to say the lense in which I watch feminism throughout history bc through a Black woman's lense, labor has always been something that had to be done, being a housewife wasn't a privilege afforded to us and having a husband who could support us with that kind of money. So it's a different perspective. That's why womanism and Black feminism are really important too because the struggles do differ. Labor struggles for P.O.C. women are different.
No criticism of the video though it's excellently done and I learned a lot. I never knew what a riveter was actually! I wonder how history for women's rights would have turned out had there not been a world war 1 and/or 2. The reason I say that is there wouldn't be that big push to put women to work but one could argue that after the war steps went backwards and further delayed progress. I guess I'm wondering how progressive would women working be without the war propaganda to push it? I really wonder that. 👀
Actually, I suspect the world wars were in response to women demanding rights. I've suspected that for a while now
I am so thankful I found your channel, it helps me understand better, and I have all these thoughts but you put them in order and you explain it simply, so everyone can understand 🌸
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I mean, if we are talking laws, how 'bout that whole Roe vs. Wade thing? Women are now bleeding out in parking lots because they have lost the ability to determine what happens to their own bodies and doctors are afraid to treat them. I think that goes way beyond oppression.
But the law doesn't always figure into it. Despite the fact that many households have dual income earners, statistically, who is still doing the majority of the housework? Who is still the primary caregiver for children?
Ask yourself, ‘ who is responsible for the overturn?’
When we don’t have to ask the question anymore. Then it will be done
I work at a slighly progressive law firm. We have just over 50 % of our Partners are women, the three managing partners are women.
But all of our women lawers will tell you of moments when they were asked to get coffee, when they were asked to take notes at the meeting. Deep held assumptions that the secretary is a woman’s roll, geting coffee is a woman’s role.
Most women work, then go home and manage the home, dinner, kids, shopping, cleaning. Husbands are proud to say they HELP. Help, means its her job but they help her.
In governance, mayors and local politicians are still around 20 to 30% women, federal reps, less. And as we all know, women have never lead this country.
Oh, yeah, and that picky thing about being able to decide who LIVES INISDE OF US, THREATENING OUR HEALTH AND EVEN LIFES. Yeah, that.
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Thank you for sharing these well researched and made videos!!! 😊
Thank you for explaining these issues so well!
I don't understand why it's not being more. Publicly discussed, very crucial aspect is the lack of enforcement of child support. It is what keeps women at a substantial disadvantage over men. By the time they hit 50 years old, even if they were working, if they've raised children. A very large percentage did not receive the appropriate child support. In 2023 $113 BILLION is owed in child support
I love your storytelling that blends the concepts and ideas….
Bumping video. Its well done
I often find myself in the position in group projects (especially in the north it seems for some reason) of insisting that women speak up & not discount their own ideas or passions.
I think a lot of us grow up with this conditioning regardless of gender, but it's worse for women for sure
Hi, you are good voice for women. A thought for your next post: did we think it would that essy to „break down patriarchy“ (i know you meant it not that way.)
Of course they fight back! And it is their right to do so. Which means, right now WE have to be the strategists of how to preserve what we fought for. And yes, obedience and the role of „real women“ were taught to us for millenia. Do not allow them to feel weak and give in.
And yes, there are men out there too, who are willing to help.
Heads up! Lets strategize.
Things definitely are not equal. Bigotry and sexism are still a major problem and part of the mindset of people. I know someone who thinks Kamala Harris (president candidate) shouldn’t be president because she’s a woman. It’s ridiculous really.
A bit out of context: I prefer having a daughter, boy are turbulent. Some moms say “daughters require too much work, I prefer a boy” and her’s is the little sh*t, you see raging at the playground. The one you ask yourself “Where the F are your parents?”
For those women as expectations towards them have always been unequal, their expectations towards their girls and boys are unequal.
Raising a child well is a difficult, so this is the reason why for some, boys are easier than girls.
I see this in more then 50% of the moms around me
This is fantastic information. Please update the spelling of "oppressed" in the caption.
Women are still paid less than men for the same work.
Not really. Most women just don't work as hard as men
We are not even close to have equal rights or equal responsibilities. When I had three kids 35% of my income went towards childcare or only $4,000 per year was tax free. I was taxed on the remaining $21,000 as part of my income. Yet items such as "entertainment ", including business visits to strip clubs are considered necessary and therefore a tax deduction. In college we had pool parties that opened up the locker rooms to both genders and we learned that men's locker rooms and saunas were twice as big as women's. Hospitals. routinely discriminate against women with items like showers are available to men, but not women. Only men are considered for department heads. When I worked as a nurse aide the men were paid 2 to 3 times as much as men for the same job. The Boy Scouts are much better funded than the Girl Scouts so my boys went to camp every year. My girl once in 12 years. I can go on and on.
That baby elephant story is such a good illustration to encourage us to challenge what we "know" and get more curious about social beliefs and how they shape our concept of how humans "should" be.
And let’s stop exploiting animals!
Hi. I totally get the elephant metaphor. I still would love a video discussing examples of systemic opression today. Also, I am really interested in knowing your thoughts on the 'gender equality paradox'. Thanks for this valueble content. Its helping me clarifying a lot of concepts 😊
Thank you for your feedback! We definitely will have more to come on these topics in future videos. Thanks for your support!
The fact that so many women just voted for a party that is actively reversing their rights is a huge indicator women still live within that circle.
This chanel is awesome!! In my country women also didn't had much rights... Thank you for pointing that out.
I have felt and seen so much injustice...its exhausting trying to explain and prove it while only being dismissed or more often, met with disdain.
Yes and no women don't have equal rigths. Their rigths are entirely dependent on men.
I believe
I believe I’m a kind soul
Peaceful and benevolent
I believe in truth, in honesty and loyalty
I believe in compassion and kindness
And if you come to my door in need
I will let you in, for I believe in you
And if you deceive me, I will not blame you
And I will set the table with the king’s feast
Candles and Sunday’s best
For I believe in lenity and grace
And if you lie to me, I will know why
And look within to my own faults and frailties
So that I may become a better friend
As I believe in commitment
And when you use me and abuse me
I will change my ways
For I know no journey is without pain and obstacles
And demands hard work and purpose
And when you steal from me
Criticize and chastise me
Belittle the very meal I laboured on for you
I will cry in silence as not to trouble you
For I believe
I believe I’m a kind soul
Peaceful and benevolent
I believe in truth, respect and dignity
So will you forgive me now
For I cannot believe
In me - with you
Goodbye friend
Nurses used to be paid poorly until the silent generation retired. Then bang, nurses got paid better just so hospitals could attract talent. Guess who wants to be nurses? Men. Ok, so when do men want to be teachers or aids? The premise is that a young teacher will have parents or a husband to support her. No, most of us are single parents ourselves with deceased parents, FUDGE! Student loans are even worse, no way to pay back from our pay! Add up 150 additional hours of continuing education to keep our licenses valid. This is a crime. College professors who are predominantly not tenure also make nothing.
Maybe anecdotal, but I went to my Daughter’s RN graduation last summer. Maybe sixty in class. Maybe three or five men. Sorry I can’t be more exact, it was months ago and I don’t think I actually counted at the time.
Managing a household, making sure food is stored for winter is a major skill. Maybe one day it will be appreciated
Thanks for your channel.
I'm not certain the elephant story is universally true, if at all. Perhaps if they are kept in the same space, but not if they are moved and exposed to different terrain.
I've watched the response of elephants who had chains removed, and they danced! They explored their new and different surroundings and followed other elephants.
Let's give ourselves the same opportunity. Hang with creative people and explore fabulous terrain!
Let's check ourselves for memes and beliefs that don't serve us now, and notice the peeps, and daily life that reinforce them.
Then rinse and repeat - change the hang withs and terrain.
Elephants should never be chained, nor any other being.
It can easily be seen in sports competitions and the fact that it is separated into men and women. Men still have higher prize purses. Bigger sponsorships, more merchandise made around team members and teams in general, and more advertising and hype and there fore more people watching creating a feed back loop that men’s sports and sports competitions are better. This can absolutely be seen with Women’s Basketball, women’s football (where they have to be sexualized in their uniforms, women’s soccer, women’s tennis, women’s surfing (which finally got to equal prize money only in the last few years) etc etc all the way into women’s competitive eating competitions of which used to be non gendered and a woman was the reigning champion for years until they decided to divide it. You can also see the mental blocks when the questions are posed “What if a trans man competes as a woman? It will be unfair to women.” I have also heard “ What if a trans woman competes with men? It will be unfair to her.” I often hear men saying “watching women’s sports is boring. Just face it the men’s competitions are more dynamic more exciting.” Shortly followed by some degrading sexual comments about the female competitors. Then I hear women saying that they’re not as strong or a fast or as naturally talented as men and that they’re not going to be as good at certain sports because men are just naturally better at it. It makes me so sad and angry all at once. 😢
Fortune 500’s mostly run by men, women not 50% of the US House or Senate, never had a female US President. I took 3 weeks vacation pay and returned to work after C~Section no paid leave! Women earn 82% of what men earn (US avg) working full time.
I like the analogy of the elephant in comparison to the cultural phantoms of our past. I also think it's important to draw attention to women being pushed/encouraged back into the domestic household setting while men took over their jobs. But it seems fallacious to imply that because women's jobs were taken away in the past that they'll be taken away in the future. Or, at least, that's how your argument came across. I think a more relatable and compelling argument would be a comparison of men's health rights versus women's. While there's still pockets of cultural phantom misogyny, I think attacking the fixable problems would be more fundamental at extinguishing remaining cultural phantoms.
Also, for those who want to identify as feminists, it might be helpful to speak on the type of feminism you're promoting.
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I think that theoretically women are seen equal but real life hasn't quite caught up yet. There is still lots to do.
Honestly people forget that for Centuries women were able to do basically do every Job besides Pope. They Reign equally to men p.ex. Queen Mathilda, Queen Adelheid, Queen Theophanu. That was more than 1000 years ago. In the 15 th century there we're several uprisings in tyrol, franconia and the regions we know call Swiss, because the rich were trying to Take away womens rights to inherent, lead a Business. Those we're successfull. Until the so called "civil rights movement". Prior to the civill rights movement, men and women had the same rights based in their social gender (Noblesse, craftsman, enslaved). Feminism is Not something new. It is als old as humanity. Because misoginy is something only affordable for privileged. Look at Island, sweden, norway those countries were dirt poor for ages. Because its soil and climate is so tough to survive on. Now women are in a much safer place there than anywhere else.
economic gender inequality is institutionalized through the lower pay, power, and respect for feminized jobs--health care aides, hospitality industry and restaurant workers, domestics, retail, garment, electronics. A $30 minimum wage, universal free daycare, and unionization would be a major step toward women's economic equality, elevate working class and minority women, and be a blow to patriarchy.
In 2005, when I moved to the UK from the US for a named chair at a university, my husband had not yet found work, but the bank put all of our accounts with his name as the primary account holder.
It's not only about laws, is also about culture, and custom. Foolish people cannot understand that the situation is not as simple and straight forward as it appears.
They don't yet have the right of equal pay for equal work, for example, by culture, custom, and lack of legal framework.
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Usually it is enough to ask if women are allowed to do the same thing as men. Will you treat the woman who smokes and drink the same as a man? Is it okay for a man to have one night stand, and if it is okay for a woman. Is a woman with muscles and no makeup as attractive as a man.
In many 'man' fields that might not require excessive strength, women are still treated as freaks. Say gamedev, welding, or farms. Even if you manage to get the skill, men would rather choose men for those positions.
Ofc, western countries are more open. But if it is Asia or Muslim country, the inequality in opportunities is still huge.
we've came a long way but we still have a long way to go
Most U.S. states have failed to amend their constitution to include and equal rights amendment. This measure alone does not solve more than a few issues, with maybe a few more over time. By itself it’s not sufficient, but is still required to move forward.
Keep it up, women!
I like Amy McPhie Allebest. I was so excited to see her channel that I broke my rule of not putting comments in the comment section, but I know it may help her channel grow so here I am breaking my own rules.
I think the teen boys may be tryin to express frustration with a lot of the focus of progress for women has kind of come at the neglect of men. One example Significantly less men in college now than women and that fact has been met with applause every time I've heard this brought up in graduation ceremonies. It's easy to see that men are often being left out. Those boys may not have had the words to put that emotion into the correct perception but I still think it's a valid emotion.
This is what I like about Breaking Down Patriarchy. I think she uses feminism to offer challenges to the current systems in place in a way that benefits both women and men. Hopefully there will be a day that those boys may be able to see that.
Personally, I was affected by the ongoing misogyny because my mother was never legally allowed to use birth control, so she got pregnant 12 times, miscarrying twice before I was born as her last live birth. Then, in 1969, married women were FINALLY allowed to use birth control, but, in many states, they still had to have their husband's consent. I will never forget 2 things in my young life. First, one of my sisters, who was married to an alcoholic, asked my parents to start a bank account for her without telling her husband because SHE couldn't do it without his permission, but he was drinking their money away. Second, I was denied the right to take a drafting class my senior year of high school because the principal said, "girls don't become architects." When I pleaded with my parents to fight the principal's decision, my father agreed with the principal! Even after I proved them both wrong, I was not allowed to take the class. That was in 1981.
Wow! These examples are just a few generations ago, women today need to know this
Rich, Queen Victoria (the most powerful woman in England).
And a ruler!!
„women are not meant to govern“ says a person successfully governing one of the largest empires to ever exist…
Women equal. Only the rich ones
Way to actually answer the question.
The Second Shift is still very real.
I was raised in a patriarchal cult.
We all were. It’s still here, too.
Do people, in general, prefer examples using metaphors, or allegorica storiesl, or do they prefer hard facts?
They prefer which ever suits their own beliefs and narrative.
"Are women still oppressed? Let's look back almost a century!!!"
Did not know that that poster while I recognized it and I didn’t how ever know her name.they don’t teach us that in school
How about in medicine? Studies have not been done on women, all on men. Medical advice we receive is for men.
Columbia did not allow women until 1954.
Interesting you used the analogy of the elephant being stuck how politically ironic. 🤔
Much of this is taken only in the context of Whyte women... not *the experience of all women*
Look at even the images. So Women's Suffrage ignored the plight of BIPOC women, which was such a huge disservice.
Women are still oppressed. What a shame the speaker wasted 10 min. time and didn’t even share what she purports to be an expert opinion. The history wasn’t helpful. What would have been helpful would have been examples of how women are better off than we’ve been historically and examples of how things have not changed so much. Or at least it would have been a more honest representation of the title of the video.
@patirvin-bz9pgSo, criticism is warranted. Even viewing this through the framing device of the two teenage boys, the person failed to answer their questions.
Trying to do something warrants enough respect, that when the attempt is bad, we can be honest about the quality, what went wrong, and what should be done better.
Not in the U.S. They dont. It's a third world country.
So 1931 England are Anglo people not the entire world
So, here's the problem with your great breakdown: You're focusing on the tied elephant in women's minds.
Women's rights become substantial when men buy in. Make no mistake: women being better off is actually better off for men as well. The problem with patriarchy is that it's a bad system for everyone but those at the very top.
The point of patriarchy, contrary to what many feminists believe is not "Men win." The point of patriarchy is to ensure power is passed down to the next generation of patriarchs.
Let's talk about those teenage boys. There's two possibilities. Either, A) they were genuinely curious and genuinely don't see limitations on women and femininity, or B) They're already indoctrinated into patriarchal thinking, and the question is rhetorical trolling.
If it's A, telling them about the elephant thing isn't going to help, because you didn't answer their questions. There are unspoken questions hiding in that! 'What are the real problems?' 'What can we do to help?' 'Am I to blame for your unsolved problems?' 'Am I the baddie?'
A better answer was the stuff you enumerated at the start of this video: "No, women do not have equal rights. We do not receive equal medical care, we do not recieve the same level of autonomy and authority, we do not enjoy equal levels of personal security. These are all problems of both practice and policy. If you want to make things better, help women solve problems in good faith and without romantic ulterior motives."
The lack of competence in feminist communication is what leads men to believe that Feminism means, "Women win", and as a result, not support ideas that could make things better for everyone. I suspect that Kamala Harris will lose the 2024 elections because Feminism hasn't included boys and men in the process of building a better world, but keeps telling men they are the enemy. If you tell someone they're your enemy, why would they support your efforts to expand your rights or powers?
Interesting comment, but feminism means choices in its most basic form. Where the confusion comes into play, is when men see it as a contest. They ask themselves, "Will men win if we agree with the demands of these women, or will we be oppressed and told what to do by these women?" It is not a contest. Take ego out of the equation, if you can. But my take is men cannot take ego out of the equation. It's just not possible.
No.
Were women ever oppressed?
Now they are. They are essentially weak men u can use for segs and ghost with 0 societal repercussions.
The material in short did not answer the question asked and but suggested his own with the elephant! embarrassing
Yes, but you didn’t answer your own self-posed question: what LAWS discriminate against women in the United States?? [Note 3 things: 1) Women voters outnumber men voters, and women vote more than men in the U.S.… the representatives and laws the U.S. are now decided on by women. 2) There are many laws and legal procedures in the U.S. that discriminate against men. 3) The “playing field” is not equal, and apparently, women don’t want it that way.]
I agree with most of your premise but go look at the standford study on what legislation is put in place separated by economic status. It's not men vs women, it's the rich vs the poor
@ Hi Trevor. I was not addressing economic disparities in my comment. I find it tiresome that people pretend that women have no voting or political power in the U.S.. That is all I was reacting to.
[If memory serves, the number of women millionaires in the U.S. surpassed the number of men millionaires back in the 1970s. So, even tho I do not wish to address this topic, because my opinion is that the issues of elites and constituencies and legislation is a lot more complicated than is typically taught in government departments at universities, or is reflected in the typical refereed literature on the topic, I still think that people constantly misinterpret whether women hold political power in the U.S.. But as I said, it’s complicated.]
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There are still social attitudes among some classes... but then you've also got the feminist mother I know who treats her boys like trash and elevates and spoils her daughter because she hates men.
then she is not a feminist, feminism promotes equality
So you know one person who treats their sons bady. Compare that to all the "Boy Moms" who talk about how wonderful boys are and how grateful they are to not have girls because "girls create drama and are so hard to raise."
now youtube deleted this and I have no idea why because this is exactly what I said and I repeat it again: feminism is about equality so this mother is not a feminist.
@@SomeUniqueHandle Others suffering differently doesn't invalidate the suffering she's caused.
@@modernwonder Perhaps "misandrist" would have been the correct term. But I know SO MANY self-labeled "feminists" who are actually misandrists. Some of them have good reasons to hate certain men, but not to treat all men like scum.
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