resting soldier + poopi + monkey is a good combo because resting solder one shots void, poopy defends early game to mid and monkey does nothing but hes kinda cool and alerts you of zombies
Tuber is actually pretty good, it has early hidden detection, where mortar hidden detection is way more expensive. Also it does rocket + splash damage which makes it WAY better for killing singular bosses and it can damage multiple bosses too. It is also placed on ground. Tuber has less range than mortar beacuse: Its cheaper, It does more damage, It can be placed on ground, Earlier hidden detection too.
mortar has more powerful splash damage and also has more splash radius, so nah it doesnt do really more damage in most scenarios. in terms of splash tubers also not even that much more cost effective than mortar on the last two levels (the only levels that matter for these two). also mortars expensive hidden detection lowkey doesnt make any difference in my experience
5:00 I swear, Planet gave some of the towers' max levels meme names and icons. Like for Cryo and Tuber. This is really similar to what BTD6 does with 5th tier upgrades lol. Tuber Lvl 5 - High Tech Microwave "Kabloomy"
tuber has direct and splash damage wich means that when he for example deals 4 it deals 4 damage to the primary target and then 4 spalsh (also applying to the primary target) and mortar has only splash same as fragger
Mortar and tuber have been back and forth for who's better. Tuber does more direct DMG than the other splash towers but less range and splash. Tuber is really only good with supports, and was like meta when mortar got nerfed. Mortar was since buffed, and tubers direct DMG was nerfed, so now it's useless lol
you missed the point, he was saying that yes tower is good but is useless because of mortor being way better than it and having similar early game prices
The reason why people use tuber is because placing cliff towers in tower battles is extremely limited considering how the dev imply That’s why tuber exist, it has much worse stats in favour for being far easier to use.
No, I'd say its main reason is to compromise between mortar and mercenary. It has less effective splash damage, but higher direct damage, allowing it to kill bosses.
@@pansebacheckmark thats all you need for mortars, youre not gonna have a huge amount of mortars in any game. youd maybe have like 4-8 of them and every map has just enough space for that amount of mortars
Tuber doesn't really have a use because iirc mortar got way more/better buffs. So originally tuber was a more powerful mortar with lower range, but over time mortar just got a lot better to the point where tuber doesn't have a use.
@@lolwsp6481 Not really, he's criticising Tuber for having bad damage when it's a crowd control tower and not a boss killer, Tuber isn't meant to be a primary DPS, it's a support for crowds that single target DPS struggles with, on some maps with little cliff space Tuber is more useful than Mortar is, and is overall better earlier on than Mortar is, because of the fact it's cheaper, altho I do still think Mortar is better I think it's invalid to say Tuber is completely useless
@@futureofgeography its not good at both lol, the only map where tuber arguably outshines mortar is on dead end valley since that map has barely any cliffspace. every other map has enough cliffspace for a sufficient amount of mortars, which makes tuber obsolete since its crowd control in comparison is really weak. about earlier levels, mortar is way better on earlier levels since it has bigger splash with sufficient enough damage, the earlier upgrades are also more useful and cheaper too. the only thing tuber outperforms mortar on in early game is on singular bosses since it has direct damage on the first target along with the splash damage, but thats literally it lmao. on big crowds in any stage of the game, mortar is simply better in terms of a splash damage tower. thats why tuber is just straight up useless, theres another tower that does the same exact thing but just better while also costing the same amount of credits. this isnt counting other crowd control towers neither like shotgunner, fragger, and plasma which are all wayyy more useful than tuber and outclass it too
Tbh the most decent unit and doesn’t need to be added is barracks. The towers placement cost makes it worse, The tower is OK in terms, but also horrible for a challenge like spawn units only.
tuber slander smh my head!!!! In pvp tuber doesn't really serve a purpose compared to the other towers, but in laggy scenarios he can actually out-dps mortar because of janky ancient spaghetti code. As for survival, tuber is actually a pretty solid tower but then again, anything works in survival (Also fun fact that ben guy who commented on the wiki reverted my edit, when i asked him about it he said he didnt play the game in 2 years 💀)
I mean yeah but u have just seen how this tower does in early-mid game, just support him with couple of single target dps and you’re all good. Yet this tower doesn’t really fit late game, so ig mortar is indeed better
Its a decent tower id say its more useful for short quad op matches like dead end valley because theres not much cliff space due to its medium to high damage and splash it does great against hordes its a good tower for crowd control on short maps if used in the right way and the end of the day its mosty what game modes you play and what you do that makes the tower useful or useless so i can see your point on why you think its bad but hes overall not too bad whrn used in the right ways
the tower carried him to wave 40, how is that pointless its a balanced tower between damage and splash also you would be cooked with speeds and bosses if you used mortar
i've tried and done solo with ONLY mortar, with no supports (on military base). it managed to fend off the entirety of wave 39 and last a decent amount of time on wave 40 even with void pushing through. this is not a matter of preference anymore; its just a fact
The most pointless tower, Tuber? Weird, are you sure it's pointless? Tuber is extremely useful in short maps and maps without many cliffs, especially in Versus mode, where you can easily counter the sender early and upgrade it cheaply. Even though Mortar is a better tower, it still doesn't make the Tuber the most pointless tower. Monkey, Patrioteer:
@handleislol But at the same time, Plasma Troopers also have target restrictions. Commander+DJ don't really bring a lot of buffs to Plasma Trooper, but Tuber do. The bug with the old stacking method has been patched, I have never heard of there's a new method. I'm not sure about this one. So back to the point, are you sure Tuber is pointless even when during mid-game, it can be used greatly? Definition of "Pointless". There is no purpose and it is a waste of time. Tuber predates the advent of Plasma Troopers and is intended to be a ground-based version of the Mortar. Tuber is actually not a bad defense tower. Due to its cheaper price, it can be used more frequently in versus mode or survival mode than Plasma Trooper or Mortar. Are you sure it has no purpose and it's a waste of time, if not, why is it even a pointless tower? There's no pointless tower, every tower has its purpose.
@@tipeanimates837 rocketeer is pure ass, and why tf are u comparing stats of 2 different towers from 2 different games, they have DIFFERENT BALANCING!!! maybe thats why!! compare phaser to accel, accel is bad now right?
Tuber is good for events. And you made it to wave 40 with it. Calling it pointless is just hating. Quit prayin on my boi downfall. tuber got more aura than you💯💯💯💯💥💥💥💥💥
@@bruhman4999 yeah that was in 2019, but the more recent events? tuber isnt meta for any of them because its pretty mid, not even any meta strats for 2023 halloween uses it. also in his older vids i rarely see john use tuber, he seemed to use mortar way more
its decent and can be useful, its a solid beginner tower and can do early game crowd control extremely well. it can also be an ok alternative for shotgunner for cheap defense on the first 7 waves
"No reason to exist" kinda sounds like something a black man with lighting thunders would say
NOW.
YOU SHOULD love yourself NOW.
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“Summer ant”
resting soldier + poopi + monkey is a good combo because resting solder one shots void, poopy defends early game to mid and monkey does nothing but hes kinda cool and alerts you of zombies
monki also scares enemies with his scream
Monke also stuns enemies up to guardians with it's scream
Bro is trying so hard to give negative feedback to this tower when it's doing decent.
Tuber is actually pretty good, it has early hidden detection, where mortar hidden detection is way more expensive. Also it does rocket + splash damage which makes it WAY better for killing singular bosses and it can damage multiple bosses too. It is also placed on ground. Tuber has less range than mortar beacuse: Its cheaper, It does more damage, It can be placed on ground, Earlier hidden detection too.
mortar has more powerful splash damage and also has more splash radius, so nah it doesnt do really more damage in most scenarios. in terms of splash tubers also not even that much more cost effective than mortar on the last two levels (the only levels that matter for these two). also mortars expensive hidden detection lowkey doesnt make any difference in my experience
How many people still plays TB in 2024?
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I do
i kinda do
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I swear, Planet gave some of the towers' max levels meme names and icons. Like for Cryo and Tuber. This is really similar to what BTD6 does with 5th tier upgrades lol.
Tuber Lvl 5 - High Tech Microwave
"Kabloomy"
True....
It's pointless not because its bad. It's pointless because it's overshadowed by Mortar.
Finally someone said it
Ngl... I won't call tuber trash when like, he carries me through early game easily if i feel like using it.
Yeah lol, but Tuber was secretly REALLY good when Mortar was not in its prime. I remember using it with Commando back in 1v1s and winning EVERY time.
july 2020 era tuber was peak frfr
tuber has direct and splash damage wich means that when he for example deals 4 it deals 4 damage to the primary target and then 4 spalsh (also applying to the primary target) and mortar has only splash same as fragger
@handleislol Its a pretty good counter to boss 1 spam send, thats for sure.
I do think that this video is flawed
@handleislol hes just going to be stuck at this state until planet randomly decides to come back, which is very unlikely, so rip tuber.
the direct damage is pretty useless
@@lolwsp6481 idk i made it to the void using only tubers (you can also do only mortars) + support (commander and dj only)
@@koren1935 doesnt mean much, the splash is why you got there. the direct damage itself isnt that effective outside of early game
Mortar and tuber have been back and forth for who's better. Tuber does more direct DMG than the other splash towers but less range and splash. Tuber is really only good with supports, and was like meta when mortar got nerfed. Mortar was since buffed, and tubers direct DMG was nerfed, so now it's useless lol
Holy shit it's NoL 🤯🤯
@@Jik99-zp9dx HARROW!!
Me: *can’t get past the lava spam*
Jik99: “Tuber is the worst tower, don’t use it!” *gets to the Void with just tuber spam + supports*
[changed] i hate when people say "OH THIS TOWER IS TRASH BECAUSE YOU CANT SOLO WITH IT WITH SUPPORT RARARARAR!"
That's not what I'm saying lol
you missed the point, he was saying that yes tower is good but is useless because of mortor being way better than it and having similar early game prices
ngl bro is fr trash talking like shi like this tower is not that bad but calling him pointless i crazy
The reason why people use tuber is because placing cliff towers in tower battles is extremely limited considering how the dev imply
That’s why tuber exist, it has much worse stats in favour for being far easier to use.
most maps have good enough cliffspace for mortar so this doesnt really make any sense
No, I'd say its main reason is to compromise between mortar and mercenary. It has less effective splash damage, but higher direct damage, allowing it to kill bosses.
I completely forgot tower battles existed💀
Bruh how lol
People still playing towers battle in 2024💀
@@Brazil0987ok
@@Brazil0987 Oh hell nah, you again...
Bro haven't heard of tdx
The difference between mortar and tuber is that tuber deals additional damage to its main target
its not that much damage and it makes the splash so damn weak, i think even fragger is close to it in terms of splash
@@lolwsp6481 ye ik, but that’s the main difference, which is trash lol
@@Yes-ghjcnjgxcvjjf fax
Tuber is supposed to be a mortar for maps that don't have cliff, and has faster fire rate
Thank you
Not only that but (i think) Tuber was released BEFORE Mortar
every map has cliffs tho 😭
@@lolwsp6481 not every has alot of them, some maps have 5 cliff spots
@@pansebacheckmark thats all you need for mortars, youre not gonna have a huge amount of mortars in any game. youd maybe have like 4-8 of them and every map has just enough space for that amount of mortars
Tuber doesn't really have a use because iirc mortar got way more/better buffs. So originally tuber was a more powerful mortar with lower range, but over time mortar just got a lot better to the point where tuber doesn't have a use.
I used tuber and it dominated send spam, it's basically mortar for a map without cliff spots
Mortar was added in the game after tuber. Tuber was used as the splash meta until the 2018 mortar buff.
Bruh i was late for this video, Nice video , keep them coming
When commentating your criticising tuber but he is carrying you your just doing this for rage bait now...
Exactly
hes right on everything hes saying tho?
@@lolwsp6481 Not really, he's criticising Tuber for having bad damage when it's a crowd control tower and not a boss killer, Tuber isn't meant to be a primary DPS, it's a support for crowds that single target DPS struggles with, on some maps with little cliff space Tuber is more useful than Mortar is, and is overall better earlier on than Mortar is, because of the fact it's cheaper, altho I do still think Mortar is better I think it's invalid to say Tuber is completely useless
@@futureofgeography its not good at both lol, the only map where tuber arguably outshines mortar is on dead end valley since that map has barely any cliffspace. every other map has enough cliffspace for a sufficient amount of mortars, which makes tuber obsolete since its crowd control in comparison is really weak. about earlier levels, mortar is way better on earlier levels since it has bigger splash with sufficient enough damage, the earlier upgrades are also more useful and cheaper too. the only thing tuber outperforms mortar on in early game is on singular bosses since it has direct damage on the first target along with the splash damage, but thats literally it lmao. on big crowds in any stage of the game, mortar is simply better in terms of a splash damage tower. thats why tuber is just straight up useless, theres another tower that does the same exact thing but just better while also costing the same amount of credits. this isnt counting other crowd control towers neither like shotgunner, fragger, and plasma which are all wayyy more useful than tuber and outclass it too
Point : splash damage, not cliff tower, better than Fragger, usable, does damage, has range, has firerate.
(+barracks)
Rocketeer is a mid-range explosive tower and its good for early to mid
no not really, it's garbage in early and only really serves a purpose in niche scenarios for latemid - late
This ain't tds
“garbage tower” gets to wave 40
Bro the tuber gang is gonna come for you bruh
I'm cooked
Btw you can use soldier tuber commander farm and dj to have a pretty op dps. I tried it myself
Tbh the most decent unit and doesn’t need to be added is barracks. The towers placement cost makes it worse, The tower is OK in terms, but also horrible for a challenge like spawn units only.
Tuber in tower battles: 💀💀💀💀
Tuber in tower defense X: 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿
comparing 2 diffrent games with diffrent balancing and enemies health pool range
@@white1572 elon musk
Honestly the main reason people remember tb these days is probably TDX
tuber slander smh my head!!!!
In pvp tuber doesn't really serve a purpose compared to the other towers, but in laggy scenarios he can actually out-dps mortar because of janky ancient spaghetti code. As for survival, tuber is actually a pretty solid tower but then again, anything works in survival
(Also fun fact that ben guy who commented on the wiki reverted my edit, when i asked him about it he said he didnt play the game in 2 years 💀)
Spaghetti code my beloved
I mean yeah but u have just seen how this tower does in early-mid game, just support him with couple of single target dps and you’re all good. Yet this tower doesn’t really fit late game, so ig mortar is indeed better
Its a decent tower id say its more useful for short quad op matches like dead end valley because theres not much cliff space due to its medium to high damage and splash it does great against hordes its a good tower for crowd control on short maps if used in the right way and the end of the day its mosty what game modes you play and what you do that makes the tower useful or useless so i can see your point on why you think its bad but hes overall not too bad whrn used in the right ways
Barracks:
the tower carried him to wave 40, how is that pointless
its a balanced tower between damage and splash
also you would be cooked with speeds and bosses if you used mortar
mortar can handle everything except big boys like guardians and the void, wdym cooked lol
i've tried and done solo with ONLY mortar, with no supports (on military base). it managed to fend off the entirety of wave 39 and last a decent amount of time on wave 40 even with void pushing through. this is not a matter of preference anymore; its just a fact
You can reach wave 40 with most towers + double support like in the video.
patrioteer in the corner:
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every time this man complimented tuber
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Tuber is single + splash tower tbh
It can deal big damage to it primary target and still do splash
it only does like 23 dps to main target, the direct damage doesnt really change much apart from when it hits smaller enemies
I remember finding planet3arth in my server I think I deleted the screenshot but he just asked one thing and then left lol
all the people trying to defend tuber pretending like its not completely outclassed by mortar and even fragger l0l
The most pointless tower, Tuber?
Weird, are you sure it's pointless? Tuber is extremely useful in short maps and maps without many cliffs, especially in Versus mode, where you can easily counter the sender early and upgrade it cheaply. Even though Mortar is a better tower, it still doesn't make the Tuber the most pointless tower.
Monkey, Patrioteer:
Those are joke towers, they're supposed to be bad lol
@@Jik99-zp9dx So does the joke tower mean it's not pointless?
Hmm, such a subjective person.
@handleislol Facts
@handleislol But at the same time, Plasma Troopers also have target restrictions.
Commander+DJ don't really bring a lot of buffs to Plasma Trooper, but Tuber do.
The bug with the old stacking method has been patched, I have never heard of there's a new method. I'm not sure about this one.
So back to the point, are you sure Tuber is pointless even when during mid-game, it can be used greatly?
Definition of "Pointless".
There is no purpose and it is a waste of time.
Tuber predates the advent of Plasma Troopers and is intended to be a ground-based version of the Mortar.
Tuber is actually not a bad defense tower. Due to its cheaper price, it can be used more frequently in versus mode or survival mode than Plasma Trooper or Mortar.
Are you sure it has no purpose and it's a waste of time, if not, why is it even a pointless tower?
There's no pointless tower, every tower has its purpose.
@handleislol that's what im arguing, Tuber is not the most pointless tower in tb
tuber is pretty good lowkey
nahh ngl i never got that far with mortar and support only
its possible, you can look up a vid that shows it
I would have still played it
If they grinding wasnt trash
i think its more of a like morters too overpowered
Calling tuber useless when snowballer exists is insane
snowballer is good af for slowing down bro wym
ive always heard for pretty much everyone that mortar is worse then tuber
"More useful than the Cryo-gunner"?! 😤 incorrect! it's useful in the halloween event
(satire)
Also I'm glad people are still making TB videos
bro disrespecting tuber
why didn't you do rocketeer with the tds video, its basically the same thing lmao. tds has demoman and mortar.
@@jadennguyen2852cuz rocketeer has 90 dps while tuber has 45
Rocketeer does way better than tuber could ever do
@@tipeanimates837 rocketeer is pure ass, and why tf are u comparing stats of 2 different towers from 2 different games, they have DIFFERENT BALANCING!!! maybe thats why!! compare phaser to accel, accel is bad now right?
Tuber in TB: am outclassed by mortar
Tuber/Missile Trooper in TDX: I CAN DESTROY GIANT ROBOTS WITH MY COMRADES-
am outclassed by laser gunmer
Power creeped to death
Ye i try to play this but late game make me go to 3 fps so yea
Why does he get mad at it when he cant glide through the game with no actions? That the point of a td game my brother in Christ.
awesome video
Pov: you use tuber💀
i watched at 2 times speed and it sounded like you were still talking in 1x, SPEAK FASTER
Damn, that's crazy
Cryo-Gunner is still better imo idk why people keep trashing on it
Car
@@RolandTheLibrarian because what?
@@pokade3659 cute car
@@RolandTheLibrarian cute doge
see you guys in tdx in a few hours
can you do this with mortar now
Mortar's actually good tho
Fun fact mortar is better than commando for everything
@@GamerTVRsucks ass against certain boss rushes in pvp that commando doesn't die to
@@Jik99-zp9dxStop glazing mortar so hard.
omg tdx missle trooper tb skin
Tuber accusatory is pretty op
He's already wrong 1 minute into the video, barracks is also useless
taht's what am sayin
Your point was kind of lost on me, considering none of ur points were proven in the video-
yo play tdx x tb mode cuz its very hard
they should add some new modes. it never updates. its so mid
walmart btd6
I JUST READ THE DESCRIPTION, HOW IS CRYO BAD? IF TUBER IS BETTER THAN CRYO TUBER IS A REALLY GOOD AND VIABLE TOWER, BS
hunter in tb
Tuber best
Tuber is good for events. And you made it to wave 40 with it. Calling it pointless is just hating. Quit prayin on my boi downfall. tuber got more aura than you💯💯💯💯💥💥💥💥💥
tuber is trash for events bro wym
@lolwsp6481 it was good in winter 2019. john used it alot back in the day, and besides that, he still made it to wave 40 with just tuber. So yea.
@@bruhman4999 yeah that was in 2019, but the more recent events? tuber isnt meta for any of them because its pretty mid, not even any meta strats for 2023 halloween uses it. also in his older vids i rarely see john use tuber, he seemed to use mortar way more
@lolwsp6481 yea, but he still made it to wave 40 with just tubers. That alone says something.
@@bruhman4999you can get far with a lot of towers, doesnt really mean anything lol
Im 1000 view i saw this video on 999 view
#stoptuberhate
And yet i buy it
did bro say fragger is useful?
he is, its one of the best eg
@@nic0llauu ive only seen him useful on tb classic
its decent and can be useful, its a solid beginner tower and can do early game crowd control extremely well. it can also be an ok alternative for shotgunner for cheap defense on the first 7 waves
U dont even have graveyard
so? why tf does this matter
Snowballer.
Ain’t no way people still play tower battle
Ok
No one cares
@@endlessgamesandanimations about you
@@notreallol-g4c And even less about u
@@Spaceclown_ and way less about you
@@Brazil0987 e muito menos q vc (quero ver si vc e brasileiro mesmo)
Fardster
i used
Tb is so dead even dd has more players
dd mid tb dead game
respect your elders
@@aestronk-hungryball respect my ass I am just saying tb is dead
@@Green_swordmaster no lol, people still come back to it and its gonna have a collab with tdx today
Tbz Even More Dead@@Green_swordmaster
TB is a good game
Tdx sucks tho
Why?
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