#tds #towerdefensesimulator #towerdefense #tierlist #roblox #gaming #ranking My biggest video yet, but not for long… Today I'm ranking every tower in Tower Defense Simulator!
Sledger is much more viable in most situations. It’s good for solo duo trio and quad, having great dps, good stall, mini gunner is only really good in duo and solo and has somewhat good dps but minigunner is so outclassed half the time
lowkey either one of gpyro or electroshocker should get higher repetition not only for crowd controls but for their support potential i havent touched hardcore for a long time roughly 2years but from my experience in other modes recently defense melting is just as important as dps towers(if not higher) with this bring said i suggest that the better one of two could get higher repetitions than it is also pursuit might be better than accel imo,its pretty similar to ranger which is almost always dealing dps throughout the game and has higher dps/crowd control too
I agree with most of your tierlist (electroshocker should be higher in my opinion - if it doesn't have stun immunity, it will completely disable it and if it does, it will still slow it, even bosses AND dealing great damage if you count all the hits), great video, you just earned another subscriber, I like your content, please continue, happy new year!
Honestly a near perfect list to me, I would argue pursuit and range should be considered Meta because there are strats like soloing hc and the frost event that require those tower full map range and stun resistance, there’s no replacement for those towers, something like accel can be replaced by engi ez
wait, why DID he put ranger and pursuit in “great”? they literally carry every strat on their back bottom path pursuit for legion on infernal abyss, top path pursuit for literally everything, and it can also relocate 7 rangers do as much dps as one gatling gun, have insanely good range, some crowd control and are one of the only towers to kill hidden lead balloons (if those will ever exist) if it gets hidden detection from ace pilot
I disagree with sledger i used it during a fallen match and i can tell you i barely got it upgraded and got 160kdmg PER sledger its just an amazing crowd control tower and with the freezing? OP
Насчёт инженера,сомнительно,его цена было в 4500 robux,а теперь жалкие 2250 вроде,после нерфа урона турелей и потом под новый год прокачали только долгое стояние турелей,я думаю,что инженеры потеряли статус и дамаг и не стоят свои кристаллы! Что насчёт базы наёмников,то разрабы говорили о том,что будут делать боссов по чаще бьющих станом и уроном по карте,в следствии чего все машинки,наёмники,телохранители и т.п будут отлетать,надежда на них есть,но долгий спавн их даёт знать о потере урона!
the tierlist isn't that bad, but i really recconmend giving necromancer a second thought. It's better then you think. Also, is this tierlist just when you have everything, or are the towers ranked by when you can buy them too?
no it really doesnt deserve it lol. necro is straight up garbage until max in which its DECENT, yet a waste of money unless you're on a map that works well with it
I would say the same with Rocketer, it's frantic strong if you ask your team let you farm 7-9 waves then place some 3-6 lv2 rocketer, they roast hiddens with ease since the first one. Just that by yourself you need to place a solid DPS at wave 18 on fallen mode because rocketer can't last hit exact damages by himself because his 70 dmg per rocket. THE BAD THING of rocketer, is that ONLY THE LV2 is great... while all other levels are very mid. But in overall, I've been using rocketer in fallen matches (trio or quad with RANDOM PPL and carrying them with just turret or accel) and it's very cheap mid game carry (waves 8-19) , which for that purpose is a solid A tier. Similarly good as maxed necromancers but in form of 5-7 lv2 rocketers. Most underrated tower in the game, but it gonna get reworked before medic... while being much better than medic XD , and wonder, my level is like 610
hunter should be atleast in the same tier as soldier and demoman and accel and Gmini over both ranger and pursuit shouldn't be true as they are both easily meta towers (extremely consistent), freezer should atleast be be alright as it is used as an easy to obtain tower that can slow down bosses like void reaver (good in strats) eveything else is fine except maybe accel, Gmini and medic being ranked too high (stun immune dps with high range is meta rn)
This list is a W, only thing I don’t agree with is the necro placement. Necro isn’t the best tower but it is still really good (only at max) if you use it right I’d say it’s above gladiator, my opinion though
I guess that’s a valid argument, I sometimes find necro in my loadouts (not much in solos) and I always just go straight to max because necro is really just a sub dps/good way to survive some difficult waves (basically It’s in my opinion too slept on but I might just be glazing)
also, the harvester is very good, but not Meta. if used correctly I saw in 1 match it did 2,000,000 damage.(in badlands cuz it's op). so please harvester maybe in the good tier. (not meta but powerful enough)
wow bro your such an underrated creator, when watching this i thought you had like 20k subscribers, you deserve more than that for the qualilty of your content. Wish you well from australia!
@mortar9954 don’t take this that seriously im just thinking of this on the spot, necromancer would be high great (or A tier) archer would be mid to high B tier, rocketeer would go high c tier to low b tier, freezer would go more towards the top of C tier, pursuit still in S tier, and mortar would be mid to high A tier. (I’m going based on the tiers in my community post
I would say. Harvester which i think is already been forgotten already somehow. Should be in great tier. At times though i would say it would be meta. The main issue with Harvester is its inncesstitence. If your bring farm. It can help a little bit more with this. The greatest strengths is that. It can cancel out waves. Largely in mid game. I would say use it in fallen mode. And you can see what i mean. Pair it with some other crowd control tower of sorts. I would say cyro mancer. Since it mass freezes. You can make sure. NOTHING can get past.unless its some fast strong enemy. It also has 0 enemies that can ignore its ability.
You can get like 100 dps on one farm. Your actual abilty doesn't even gotta be near it. As long a single farm is in its range You can do 100 dps. On like the 3rd upgrade
i would probably put g crook a lot higher as it is a JOAT and ive used it to solo hardcore multiple times, i feel like glad should be lower since it is 100% not the second best event tower and pursuit is meta for sure
Hunter is Dookie And not trash Only 250 coins for 120 damage (around 45-50 dps) Freezer is very useful in hardcore Electroshocker is meta (Flying + lead detection + chain) Sledger is meta, it is now the best freezing tower + crowd control (Also has the highest cost efficiency possible) Did you know, golden scout with supports can solo the new molten mode
The thing is with engi and pursuit it takes like the entire match to max all of them out, so a replacing pursuit with like golden mini, or engineer with like golden crook boss would probably be good
placing pursuit not in meta is wild as u prolly didnt think of the fact if u micro it right u can just deal more dmg then any other tower as it has global range when u micro it right smh also im losing braincells on this tierlist
For one it has a damage but which can go on top of dj so you can get up to 40% damage buff, the riot guard and medic combo is very good, especially if you use like crook boss or something
if you use just grenadier for a few waves it will pay itself back easily. at max if you just stack them with some field medics, you are looking at an unstoppable wall that not only has ~3k hp but insane damage capability (just single target, not even mentioning the splash). for late game, 2.5k to spawn in 7.5k hp anywhere you want every minute or so via riot guard.
Gatling gun is not that good after the rebalance, pursuit one the best dps tower and its not meta? Ranger is great and was always meta, trapper is a great tower that have the longest stun.
gatling may not be as good as it once was, but it’s still one of the best dps towers, ranger could be put at the bottom of meta. trapper could get bumped up a few spots but i just dont think it’s reliable
@@myaltuse because its not supposed to be your main dps. its a cc tower at its heart and you are forced to use good placement and maximize the pierce to make it worth it.
I agree with a lot but elf camp is really slept on, I use it a lot because it's cheap and just really good. 9.5k for a super long range 800 hp 140 aoe summon plus some other really decent summons. I also do not agree with the placement of glad, it is very very overrated and just fell of incredibly hard. There is no way sledger is worse then current glad
elf camp falls off incredibly fast, and with the limit of 2 its just not built for the new reworked modes. and no glad is almost impossible to use since it was balanced around the old versions of the gamemodes. you will see it perform well in pzp cause thats the closest to old fallen we can get to.
@jadennguyen2852 use it in fallen duo and tell me it's bad. Buff elf helps so much with jesters and breakers that it basically helps solo those waves. It does better then most the other tower. Golden crook is still probably better but if you don't have golden crook elf is a pretty viable option
@@ac3ofspadesyt sorry for sounding realy rude, I come off like that sometimes. I just think people sleep on elf, I use it a lot... even though I have golden crook who is mostly better but still it's not that bad of tower. It helps with things like jesters and breakers which can be quite annoying.
@ in fallen duo I’d rather use regular c boss. does way more and I’ll know that it will defend well. elf camp falls off and is a waste of a slot. good ce but that’s literally all it has going for it.
Medic might as well go to useless since the game is removing global stuns, mortar actually fricking bad, engineer is overrated, accel still beats her dps, slasher can beat intermediate as main dps so it's better than you think. Necromancer lvl 4 is so op dude if you just focus on getting that necromancer becomes an s tier. Harvester just sucks against anything above 500hp. Elementalist is just great dude, 2 abilites is so strong even though it sucks at killing bosses. Golden crook is meta dude, don't underestimate him.
the yap is crazy. medic is still good. mortar isn't bad, just doesnt have a place in the meta. engineer is NOT overrated, and there is a reason accel is worse rn (the CURRENT meta goes against accel) slasher beats inter...so does soldier. necro is not op, and max is only decent. spend the money on militants and you will have more consistent/reliable dps. harv is a cc tower, ofc it wont handle high hp enemies. thats like saying ranger sucks cause it struggles on a large group of low hp, fast enemies. elementalist is situational, good but just situational. and no. gcb is NOT meta, i dont even have to explain why its not.
Yapping? Shut up dude, what you say is bassically how every idiot that just plays the same loadout says, i fricking used all of these towers everywhere, i say what i say bcuz i freaking see how every tower performs everyday.
brawler in great is wild, give it a test and properly micro it, that tower has some flipping insane cost efficiency and can literally be a late game dps if microed properly and yes it has no hidden but so does ranger, pursuit until max and engi is practically useless against hiddens until max but they are still insane, also g crook I would say is meta cuz it has insane early, while also being a good mid-late game, it is lietrally good for everything and pursuit I don't even have to explain why it's meta. Tho this is probabaly one of or the best list I have seen yet
Ranger and Pursuit I should have put in meta, g crook could’ve been higher up, brawler is held back by its hidden detection, but it’s different because it isn’t only a mid-late game tower like ranger and pursuit, where you normally have some other tower that you used early game that had hidden detection
@@ac3ofspadesyt true and also you can just use another tower that is good in general for hidden while brawler just shreds everything else (g crook or even engineer) plus hiddens aren't even difficult as no difficult hidden enemies come out in late game (only exception being that necromancer in fallen which goes hidden at half hp and soul bosses but at that point you should have some other defences)
pursuit might be the best dps tower, maybe, but i think engineer is a better tower overall than pursuit because you can use it in the early, mid, and late game and it still has some of the best dps in the game. you need to take into consideration every level of a tower, and how it’s used
@@ac3ofspadesyt If you consider every level and situation, you'd know that Brawler, Pursuit, Ranger, Golden Crook Boss, and other towers are better than Accelerator. Also, putting Trapper in the "Alright" tier is a crazy take, considering how versatile it is in every wave. Medic is only great at clearing stuns, so why would you rank it so high despite it being horrible on other levels? Elf Camp should definitely be in the "Alright" tier since it has excellent cost efficiency, making it easier to defend during the early to mid-game. Freezer should be ranked much higher. The tower freezes enemies really well and is great for difficult challenges, such as the hidden wave, insane maps, or challenges in general. Electroshocker should be considered a meta tower. It is used by many people and strategies, because it does really a good job. Reducing defenses, stun enemies, great crowd control and so on. There are many towers you need to reconsider before claiming, "you need to take into consideration every level of a tower and how it's used." when yourself don’t follow your own word.
@@TonyHealu lol no. just a simple no to g mini. the meta isn't pure dps anymore, its surrounded by stun immunity and reliable range. g mini has none of that. this is why towers like pursuit, ranger, engi, and merc base are cornerstones of the average loadout.
Golden mini gunner sucks and needs a huge buff. He was good but the limit and the cost is not worth 50k now, just use golden crook. Golden crooks damage and everything far surpasses mini unless you get like 15 of them and waste all the area for better towers like accel, turret, engi, and etc. It's just not worth bringing it anymore, it brings nothing to the team but some decent middle game.
Made an updated tier list based on feedback and testing, check it out on my community tab
It’s a perfect list 😮💨
Lollllllll
Placing sledger below regular minigunner is wild 💀
It kinda is
@ac3ofspadesyt how
@@ac3ofspadesytyea 1600 dps in best case scenario is worse than mini
For one sledge tho you can place six
Sledger is much more viable in most situations. It’s good for solo duo trio and quad, having great dps, good stall, mini gunner is only really good in duo and solo and has somewhat good dps but minigunner is so outclassed half the time
Electroshock is literally META, I see it being used abundantly
Check updated tier list in community tab
Nah
lowkey either one of gpyro or electroshocker should get higher repetition
not only for crowd controls but for their support potential
i havent touched hardcore for a long time roughly 2years but from my experience in other modes recently
defense melting is just as important as dps towers(if not higher)
with this bring said i suggest that the better one of two could get higher repetitions than it is
also pursuit might be better than accel imo,its pretty similar to ranger which is almost always dealing dps throughout the game and has higher dps/crowd control too
I agree with most of your tierlist (electroshocker should be higher in my opinion - if it doesn't have stun immunity, it will completely disable it and if it does, it will still slow it, even bosses AND dealing great damage if you count all the hits), great video, you just earned another subscriber, I like your content, please continue, happy new year!
W table I appreciate this kind of vid :]
Honestly a near perfect list to me, I would argue pursuit and range should be considered Meta because there are strats like soloing hc and the frost event that require those tower full map range and stun resistance, there’s no replacement for those towers, something like accel can be replaced by engi ez
I agree i should have placed ranger and pursuit higher
mostly agree but i think ranger and pursuit should be in meta and snowballer above meta
yeah i might have underrated those towers a bit
wait, why DID he put ranger and pursuit in “great”? they literally carry every strat on their back
bottom path pursuit for legion on infernal abyss, top path pursuit for literally everything, and it can also relocate
7 rangers do as much dps as one gatling gun, have insanely good range, some crowd control and are one of the only towers to kill hidden lead balloons (if those will ever exist) if it gets hidden detection from ace pilot
Bro ignore the haters this is a goated tierlist
Some things could be changed
ranger, elctroshocker, and sledger all need to be higher by a bracket i would say but otherwise perfect, and after update mortar is meta now
@@DuckyDill11 updated it a bit again in my community tab
I disagree with sledger i used it during a fallen match and i can tell you i barely got it upgraded and got 160kdmg PER sledger its just an amazing crowd control tower and with the freezing? OP
it is pretty good
it can literally perma-freeze bloated and nimble fallen tanks, that makes it ACTUAL meta
was sledger a event tower or smthn? im sorry but i just dont knw how to get it so im asking
@ I don’t care, how do you not know this?
It was the event tower of the 2021 Frost Invasion event, it just got reworked with this update and it’s back as a gamepass
hunter doing 120 dmg/ 60 DPS as a starter tower needs to be noticed
Ik
Насчёт инженера,сомнительно,его цена было в 4500 robux,а теперь жалкие 2250 вроде,после нерфа урона турелей и потом под новый год прокачали только долгое стояние турелей,я думаю,что инженеры потеряли статус и дамаг и не стоят свои кристаллы! Что насчёт базы наёмников,то разрабы говорили о том,что будут делать боссов по чаще бьющих станом и уроном по карте,в следствии чего все машинки,наёмники,телохранители и т.п будут отлетать,надежда на них есть,но долгий спавн их даёт знать о потере урона!
Devs are weird for making a tower with amazing and cute design yet have awful stats, i feel bad for snowballer and hallowpunk
Easy mode should just have a skin reward or something
Sniper surprisingly got me good early def in fallen cs of its range
Hunter better
the tierlist isn't that bad, but i really recconmend giving necromancer a second thought. It's better then you think.
Also, is this tierlist just when you have everything, or are the towers ranked by when you can buy them too?
I have every tower on the list except for a couple of the old event towers like archer and swarmer
Don't worry because Necromancer is getting another buff
no it really doesnt deserve it lol. necro is straight up garbage until max in which its DECENT, yet a waste of money unless you're on a map that works well with it
I would say the same with Rocketer, it's frantic strong if you ask your team let you farm 7-9 waves then place some 3-6 lv2 rocketer, they roast hiddens with ease since the first one. Just that by yourself you need to place a solid DPS at wave 18 on fallen mode because rocketer can't last hit exact damages by himself because his 70 dmg per rocket.
THE BAD THING of rocketer, is that ONLY THE LV2 is great... while all other levels are very mid.
But in overall, I've been using rocketer in fallen matches (trio or quad with RANDOM PPL and carrying them with just turret or accel) and it's very cheap mid game carry (waves 8-19) , which for that purpose is a solid A tier. Similarly good as maxed necromancers but in form of 5-7 lv2 rocketers.
Most underrated tower in the game, but it gonna get reworked before medic... while being much better than medic XD , and wonder, my level is like 610
A yes Firework technicien a tower that can multiplie some tower’s DPS and give all détection is just good.
When i recorded this i barely knew what it did sorry
hunter should be atleast in the same tier as soldier and demoman and accel and Gmini over both ranger and pursuit shouldn't be true as they are both easily meta towers (extremely consistent), freezer should atleast be be alright as it is used as an easy to obtain tower that can slow down bosses like void reaver (good in strats)
eveything else is fine except maybe accel, Gmini and medic being ranked too high (stun immune dps with high range is meta rn)
I do think I should have moved up pursuit and ranger to meta
Congrats on getting a sub
Appreciate it my guy
@@ac3ofspadesytcongrats on getting another one
This list is a W, only thing I don’t agree with is the necro placement. Necro isn’t the best tower but it is still really good (only at max) if you use it right I’d say it’s above gladiator, my opinion though
The fact that the only good level is max pushes necro more down in the list than it should be, so it's not that bad of placement
exactly you need to take into account all of a towers levels, and how they perform, and necromancer just sucks besides its max level
I guess that’s a valid argument, I sometimes find necro in my loadouts (not much in solos) and I always just go straight to max because necro is really just a sub dps/good way to survive some difficult waves (basically It’s in my opinion too slept on but I might just be glazing)
I really loved your mic, what mic are u using? great tier list btw!
I’m just using my phone mic i think
lvl 575+ here and I think Hunter deserves better. It should be at least dookie. One more thing, throw glad all the way down to dookie
hunter is kind of decent now, i would probably put it in dookie if I could change it
I mean. 120dmg per 2 sec is strong
W video u getting a sub
Thx man
The elf camp disrespect is wild
It’s just not that good now
also, the harvester is very good, but not Meta. if used correctly I saw in 1 match it did 2,000,000 damage.(in badlands cuz it's op). so please harvester maybe in the good tier. (not meta but powerful enough)
Eh
wow bro your such an underrated creator, when watching this i thought you had like 20k subscribers, you deserve more than that for the qualilty of your content. Wish you well from australia!
Dude genuinely thank you so much, it means a lot to me that someone thinks I had a decent sized following when i don’t
@ no problem bro! Keep going and good luck. I hope you succeed 🙏🙏
Because some towers got rebalance where would you rank them
@mortar9954 don’t take this that seriously im just thinking of this on the spot, necromancer would be high great (or A tier) archer would be mid to high B tier, rocketeer would go high c tier to low b tier, freezer would go more towards the top of C tier, pursuit still in S tier, and mortar would be mid to high A tier. (I’m going based on the tiers in my community post
I would say. Harvester which i think is already been forgotten already somehow. Should be in great tier. At times though i would say it would be meta. The main issue with Harvester is its inncesstitence. If your bring farm. It can help a little bit more with this. The greatest strengths is that. It can cancel out waves. Largely in mid game. I would say use it in fallen mode. And you can see what i mean. Pair it with some other crowd control tower of sorts. I would say cyro mancer. Since it mass freezes. You can make sure. NOTHING can get past.unless its some fast strong enemy. It also has 0 enemies that can ignore its ability.
I disagree Harvester is very mid and held back by placement limit too
You can chain it.
@@kevinschraderjr5701 it’s still not very strong
You can get like 100 dps on one farm. Your actual abilty doesn't even gotta be near it. As long a single farm is in its range You can do 100 dps. On like the 3rd upgrade
i would probably put g crook a lot higher as it is a JOAT and ive used it to solo hardcore multiple times, i feel like glad should be lower since it is 100% not the second best event tower and pursuit is meta for sure
I am preventing myself from punching my PC rn.
Whoops
this is fr a video from 2021 in like every way and form. Kind of an outdated and old concept but i have nothing else to do so ill watch ig
Welp
Hunter is Dookie
And not trash
Only 250 coins for 120 damage (around 45-50 dps)
Freezer is very useful in hardcore
Electroshocker is meta (Flying + lead detection + chain)
Sledger is meta, it is now the best freezing tower + crowd control (Also has the highest cost efficiency possible)
Did you know, golden scout with supports can solo the new molten mode
True
pursuit isnt really a sub dps anymore
idk maybe it’s not
@@ac3ofspadesyt it has like 500 dps
pretty sure they’re planning to nerf pursuit
all of those towers in mid tier should not be there besides tg and rocketeer
also EXECUTIONER IN ALRIGHT TIER IS FUCKING INSANE OMGFHSGSGDH
Whoops
That thumbnail is a great example of ragebait.
lol
ranger and pursuit should be meta. there is a reason they are used more.
Yeah
so what would you're idle load out be?
rn im using farm, pursuit, engineer, dj, and pyromancer / sledger
depends on what gamemode, but probably farm, dj, engi, pursuit, and then a freezing/stunning tower
@@ac3ofspadesyt alr thx
@@ac3ofspadesyt also do you think i could use a golden tower with that as well
The thing is with engi and pursuit it takes like the entire match to max all of them out, so a replacing pursuit with like golden mini, or engineer with like golden crook boss would probably be good
@@ac3ofspadesyt Alr thx
placing pursuit not in meta is wild as u prolly didnt think of the fact if u micro it right u can just deal more dmg then any other tower as it has global range when u micro it right smh also im losing braincells on this tierlist
My bad I should’ve placed pursuit higher
Genuinely asking because I’ve used merc base a couple of times how is it good? Price / damage wise compared to other towers.
For one it has a damage but which can go on top of dj so you can get up to 40% damage buff, the riot guard and medic combo is very good, especially if you use like crook boss or something
if you use just grenadier for a few waves it will pay itself back easily. at max if you just stack them with some field medics, you are looking at an unstoppable wall that not only has ~3k hp but insane damage capability (just single target, not even mentioning the splash). for late game, 2.5k to spawn in 7.5k hp anywhere you want every minute or so via riot guard.
@@ac3ofspadesyt also rifleman stacking
ngl id replace engie with pursuit and trapper in meta, trapper is so good because it carried so many strats
Maybe i put it a bit low
it carries strats but not meta
@ yea strats are meta
Recreate this type video bro a lot of new change
I’m updating the tier list every update in my community tab
Snowball is absolutely the worst tower ever.
Fr
if the TDS community finds this video they will have no mercy. (elite hates you for the trapper in alright... maybe)
Who likes elite anyway, I'm ok with him but most people don't really like him now :/
If elite saw my video i would be super happy, but he definitely wouldn’t like my trapper placement
hunter should be in mid tier
Nah
@@ac3ofspadesyt u have no idea how good hunter can be his dps is quite good for its price. Hes pretty useful in the "back to basics" challenge
@@ac3ofspadesyt he’s got 60 dps with long range, hidden, and flying detection, and he’s cheap to upgrade
@@ac3ofspadesyt hunter is the god of starter players, that dmg shouldnt go unnoticed.
Alright alright so i ranked it a bit low
Gatling gun is not that good after the rebalance, pursuit one the best dps tower and its not meta? Ranger is great and was always meta, trapper is a great tower that have the longest stun.
Gatling only acts like TDX Sentry but u could rotate manually
but more luxurious
gatling may not be as good as it once was, but it’s still one of the best dps towers, ranger could be put at the bottom of meta. trapper could get bumped up a few spots but i just dont think it’s reliable
galting getting overshaowed cuz of pursuit and its nerf like its still a god tier tower 😭🙏
I, always, lose with gatling in solo fallen as my dps.@Shtumsurge
@@myaltuse because its not supposed to be your main dps. its a cc tower at its heart and you are forced to use good placement and maximize the pierce to make it worth it.
BRO HUNTER HAVE 120 dmg, WDYM ITS BETTER THAN ALL STARTER
It’s still trash
@ac3ofspadesyt GET OUT
hunter probably dookie or mid, sledger above, pursuit meta
Ok
This tower list is so wrong on so many aspects i dont even know where to start.
Never make a list again 🗣‼️
dont watch my next video lol it’s even more controversial
W vid but pursuit as sub dps????? Bro it has like one of the best dps and cannnot be stunned.
True
Who is better electroshocker ace pilot or pyromancer? Because i want to beat intermediate
All good towers tbh, what tower you use would depend on the rest of your loadout
@ac3ofspadesyt i use mostly common and uncommons but im gonna go with electro since i asked People and a lot prefer it
@BadrSab es is built for cc, pyro is more defense melting now, and ace is useful until you get a faster/better eg tower
Gladiator is poop no one uses it how does it deserve a good tier? its below millitant.
I agree with you
I wouldn’t say below militant but i do think gladiator should be lower in the tier
gladiator was op as hell pre-fallen and molten reworks, now its terrible at early game and sucks until lvl 4
@PrimePlas true
@PrimePlas it was always mid until lvl 4, lvl 0, 4, and 5 are the only notable parts
Bro said trapper and cowboy sucks ☠️☠️ they are meta or great
Check out community tab for updated list
btw nice video
Thanks!
can u send link so i can do one by myself
tiermaker.com/create/tower-defense-simulator-newest-towers-tier-list-15935090
electro is just a better golden pyro
maybe
I agree with a lot but elf camp is really slept on, I use it a lot because it's cheap and just really good. 9.5k for a super long range 800 hp 140 aoe summon plus some other really decent summons. I also do not agree with the placement of glad, it is very very overrated and just fell of incredibly hard. There is no way sledger is worse then current glad
Ok
elf camp falls off incredibly fast, and with the limit of 2 its just not built for the new reworked modes. and no glad is almost impossible to use since it was balanced around the old versions of the gamemodes. you will see it perform well in pzp cause thats the closest to old fallen we can get to.
@jadennguyen2852 use it in fallen duo and tell me it's bad. Buff elf helps so much with jesters and breakers that it basically helps solo those waves. It does better then most the other tower. Golden crook is still probably better but if you don't have golden crook elf is a pretty viable option
@@ac3ofspadesyt sorry for sounding realy rude, I come off like that sometimes. I just think people sleep on elf, I use it a lot... even though I have golden crook who is mostly better but still it's not that bad of tower. It helps with things like jesters and breakers which can be quite annoying.
@ in fallen duo I’d rather use regular c boss. does way more and I’ll know that it will defend well. elf camp falls off and is a waste of a slot. good ce but that’s literally all it has going for it.
Medic might as well go to useless since the game is removing global stuns, mortar actually fricking bad, engineer is overrated, accel still beats her dps, slasher can beat intermediate as main dps so it's better than you think. Necromancer lvl 4 is so op dude if you just focus on getting that necromancer becomes an s tier. Harvester just sucks against anything above 500hp. Elementalist is just great dude, 2 abilites is so strong even though it sucks at killing bosses. Golden crook is meta dude, don't underestimate him.
I can kind of agree with some of your takes but you need to take into account every level not just 1 like necromancer
the yap is crazy.
medic is still good.
mortar isn't bad, just doesnt have a place in the meta.
engineer is NOT overrated, and there is a reason accel is worse rn (the CURRENT meta goes against accel)
slasher beats inter...so does soldier.
necro is not op, and max is only decent. spend the money on militants and you will have more consistent/reliable dps.
harv is a cc tower, ofc it wont handle high hp enemies. thats like saying ranger sucks cause it struggles on a large group of low hp, fast enemies.
elementalist is situational, good but just situational.
and no. gcb is NOT meta, i dont even have to explain why its not.
Yapping? Shut up dude, what you say is bassically how every idiot that just plays the same loadout says, i fricking used all of these towers everywhere, i say what i say bcuz i freaking see how every tower performs everyday.
@jadennguyen2852bruh shut up, the meta is changing all of what you said right now is outdated af
why do you sound like your crying dude 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Idk bro 😭
In my opinion, this tierlist is horrible, no offense intended.
Look at my community tab maybe that one’s bettet
brawler in great is wild, give it a test and properly micro it, that tower has some flipping insane cost efficiency and can literally be a late game dps if microed properly and yes it has no hidden but so does ranger, pursuit until max and engi is practically useless against hiddens until max but they are still insane, also g crook I would say is meta cuz it has insane early, while also being a good mid-late game, it is lietrally good for everything and pursuit I don't even have to explain why it's meta. Tho this is probabaly one of or the best list I have seen yet
Ranger and Pursuit I should have put in meta, g crook could’ve been higher up, brawler is held back by its hidden detection, but it’s different because it isn’t only a mid-late game tower like ranger and pursuit, where you normally have some other tower that you used early game that had hidden detection
@@ac3ofspadesyt true and also you can just use another tower that is good in general for hidden while brawler just shreds everything else (g crook or even engineer) plus hiddens aren't even difficult as no difficult hidden enemies come out in late game (only exception being that necromancer in fallen which goes hidden at half hp and soul bosses but at that point you should have some other defences)
@Leondekarate2 true
its actually very easy to get 3 turrets imo
Not really in normal modes
@@ac3ofspadesyt wdym? i use it in my main load out and ive been able to get 3 in every mode except hc
I’m sorry but this list ain’t exactly it
Check updated tier list in community tab maybe it’s better
i also don't agree like 42 spots
Okay
@@ac3ofspadesyt but they are like 3- spots above or below lol
Gatling is not meta
maybe I put it a bit too high
accelarator sucks compare to ranger,pursuit and gatling
pursuit literally the best dps right now accel shouldve been moved to good tier and firework tech shoulve been move to great
engineer shouldve been moved to great
bro just came in and spit the worst takes.
pursuit might be the best dps tower, maybe, but i think engineer is a better tower overall than pursuit because you can use it in the early, mid, and late game and it still has some of the best dps in the game. you need to take into consideration every level of a tower, and how it’s used
@@ac3ofspadesyt
If you consider every level and situation, you'd know that Brawler, Pursuit, Ranger, Golden Crook Boss, and other towers are better than Accelerator.
Also, putting Trapper in the "Alright" tier is a crazy take, considering how versatile it is in every wave.
Medic is only great at clearing stuns, so why would you rank it so high despite it being horrible on other levels?
Elf Camp should definitely be in the "Alright" tier since it has excellent cost efficiency, making it easier to defend during the early to mid-game.
Freezer should be ranked much higher. The tower freezes enemies really well and is great for difficult challenges, such as the hidden wave, insane maps, or challenges in general.
Electroshocker should be considered a meta tower. It is used by many people and strategies, because it does really a good job. Reducing defenses, stun enemies, great crowd control and so on.
There are many towers you need to reconsider before claiming, "you need to take into consideration every level of a tower and how it's used." when yourself don’t follow your own word.
Sledger>frost blaster
Yeah i put it above frost blaster
G mini is meta if you use it as a secondary dps. Underrated tbh,
Things were said I may or may not be able to stand on my claim no more
Overrated, use accel
I dont think g mini is quite meta
G mini In my eyes goes can be used in anything, if I have ranger, accel, or engi I can have gmini sub dps it does well to fill in remaining placements
Firework tech makes it meta for sure
@@TonyHealu lol no. just a simple no to g mini. the meta isn't pure dps anymore, its surrounded by stun immunity and reliable range. g mini has none of that. this is why towers like pursuit, ranger, engi, and merc base are cornerstones of the average loadout.
Golden mini gunner sucks and needs a huge buff. He was good but the limit and the cost is not worth 50k now, just use golden crook. Golden crooks damage and everything far surpasses mini unless you get like 15 of them and waste all the area for better towers like accel, turret, engi, and etc. It's just not worth bringing it anymore, it brings nothing to the team but some decent middle game.
Maybe