The Catholic Church Vs. Vampires | The Catholic Talk Show
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Episode #54
In this episode of The Catholic Talk Show, the guys get out the Holy Water, Garlic, and Crucifixes and discuss what the Catholic Church says about Vampires.
In this episode you will learn:
• The folklore and origins of Vampires
• The legend of the first Vampire in The Garden of Eden
• How the real historical Dracula was Catholic
• The medieval Catholic document for hunting monster
• and much more
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By the way, Vlad saw his whole family impaled by the Ottomans.
While brutal, Vlad was merely doing what the Ottomans were doing to his people. I don't necessarily agree with the methods but they were effective.
Like all Tyrants, he justified his cruelty, as defending his people, but was very willing to practice on his own. Think of Ivan the Terrible, Stalin and Sadaam Hussein.
He was also a hero. No other leader, in the east, was able to halt the Ottomans, as he did. Even outnumbered: he protected his people.
@@thomasjorge4734 Yes, modern governments still exert cruelty over the populace, to maintain control. They're methods of disguising it are simply more refined. I don't think anyone is justifying his unethical methods; but in the great sceme of things: he did protect his people from the Ottomans.
@@chivalrousjack Skanderbeg singlehandedly stopped the Ottomans from invading Italy with an even smaller army (outnumbered 10:1 at the battle of Albulena) and without extreme cruelty.
@@illyrian9976 While I certainly admire his efforts and Virtue; it should be considered that Venetian and Neapolitan Mercenaries were quite essential in Albania, during this resistance against the Ottomans. Slavs, Vlachs, and Greeks also Fought Bravely. As someone who has been to war: I can assure you, Battle is always Cruel. You may not admire Vlad; but many do, and should.
The defense of one's own women and children is a Superior Charity to allowing their rape and suffering in the name of "kindness" to foreign invaders. This is War, we're talking about. Not a mission in peace time.
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I think it’s interesting how you deplore the lack of cemeteries and our increasing disconnection from death but imply shame and disapproval of things that bring us closer to our relationship with death like green burial.
Interesting discussion, but I should point out that the Malleus Maleficarum was largely discredited by Catholic theologians at the time it was written, including the theology faculty at the University of Cologne in whose name a falsified approbation was forged. It was rejected by the Inquisition for its cruel and unlawful instructions for witch trials (the Catholic Church had only relatively recently begun trying witchcraft cases as heresies where previously it had declared that belief in witchcraft was itself a heresy), and its author Heinrich Kramer originally wrote Malleus Maleficarum out of his frustrations with the Catholic Church not taking him seriously. Still rejected by the Church, the Malleus Maleficarum was mostly used by secular courts, the European witch hysteria itself being a product of the Reformation and Renaissance when the Catholic Church's political hegemony started to wane. So yeah, don't go citing Malleus Maleficarum as a tried and true Catholic source for this kind of stuff, just sayin'.
Fingernails do NOT continue to grow after death. The skin begins to retract after death giving the impression of growth. The same for hair. Also, I believe that when a person dies their soul is released. Therefore if they come back as the undead (vampire) they have no soul and cannot be given a conversion. Great show you guys made me laugh.
Yep, there is actually a specific wood to make a stake to impale a vamires heart. I think its called hawthorn in english.
Im from Croatia, and our language and serbian is VERY similar, basically same, especially since Croatia had significand Serb minority and we were in one country for almost a 100 years, where official language in schools was called "serbo-croatian", and it was used a bit from one a bit from other, so today its almost same. Vampir is our word, first mentioned in Serbia.
We have quite a few legends, Im from Istra region, we have here one famous vampire, its a village 3 miles from my house, the guys name was Jure Grando, and he is first vampire in whole Europe that was recorded in written history.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jure_Grando
Trivia: My very good friend has the same surname as the guy that took the axe and decapitated the strigoi :)
So, since he is from that village, its highly probable he was his predecestor. I mean, cmon, your gra-gra.grandpa was a vampire slayer, how cool is that?
Also, about so called "krsnik", which would loosely mean something like "the baptiser", needs to be born on saturday, but also needs to be born with placenta on him. Krsniks were the enemy of strigois, vampires, nymphs, etc.
Hawthorn is used in former Yugoslavia. However Ash wood is most commonly used in the Balkans.
shout out to your cuisine, your savory filo dish is most delicious. I cannot remember which region calls it what, but ohhhhh so good! A good vampire hunter is a well fed vampire hunter, no? God Bless you!
@@fimfengius I knew Ash was prescribed but I didn't know where that came from.....everyday we learn!
@@auntyfluffy thanks, God bless you too sir
PS. Nope, I hate that dish lmao
Dracula, the book, is a great Catholic Novel, written by an Anglican.
Never thought vampires had such a deep theology behind it.
As I recall, Emperor Otto visited the body of his predecessor Charlemagne. He cut his nails & combed his hair. This per Einhard's Life of Charlemagne.
Tepes means Impaler. Vlad had been given as a hostage to the Turks - either saw impaling or witnessed sodomy, turning that into a punishment for the Turks, impaling them. Vlad and the Albanian Skanderbeg saved Europe.
And Sobieski too, tbh. All three of them are heroes.
He loved to impale not just Turks, but his own Romanians and little mice.
@@thomasjorge4734 Vlad impaled traitors, liars and aggressors. Since Romania was an unknown geographic area in the 15th century Vlad fought primarily for Wallachia, his home land. But also for the Pope and even for Hungary.
Hunyadi and Corvinus did their part as well.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer is my favorite show of all time. I absolutely loved this episode!!?!? If I wasn't already a patreon supporter, I for sure would be now!!
Love you all guys, you're awesome, I love your show and watch it every week. God bless you all
@1:12 ¡Yes! ¡Castlevania! I loved that game as a kid and I always liked that the subweapons were things that were found in my local church like Holy Water, Ashes and Crosses. Even the main characters the Belmonts were always presented as brave knights in the service of the Church sent to deal with the vampire problem. Even Castlevania 3 for the NES the first time we see Trevor Belmont we see him kneeling in prayer in front of the crucifix of a ruined church before he starts his journey.
Which is why I can't stand the Netflix cartoon adaptation which throws cheap shots at the Church and presents it as evil and demonic at every chance it gets, when in the games it was the Church that commissioned the Belmonts to fight Dracula in the first place!
YES!!! I have been Waiting for this!!!
In Castlevania, it's Alucard who is Dracula's half vampire, half human son ❤️
To the inquisition question, base my expert knowledge of vampires (tv, movies, etc lol).. being bitten alone doesn't make you a vampire you still need to drink the blood of vampire who bitten you and then die. (yes very anti-eucharist now that I think about it). It's only after you risen from the dead you become a vampire. So Howard's soul can still be saved if he didn't fully transform. Yes, I know this is all hypothetical. Just adding to the discussion.
Not being the biggest fan of lengthy podcasts I figured I'd listen to you guys for like five or ten minutes but here I am twenty minutes in still listening. It was a very entertaining chat.
Speaking of movies; if you haven't seen Thirst by Park Chan-wook it presents an interesting take on vampires and religion. Probably not the best representation of a priest but interesting.
The skeleton of the novel, Dracula, by Bram Stoker, was written in Philadelphia......research and outlines..
I believe Father is 100% correct about a vampire converting. He has already died, and we can assume not in the state of grace since he is now committing demonic acts in the afterlife. A soul already damned cannot convert, as St. Alphonsus Ligouri says along with many other saints. Really great show guys!
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Interesting that they said vampires have to count the salt or rice when thrown at them. That’s said about witches in Mexico with mustard seeds and something else I can’t remember.
I live on Long Island and it’s not unusual to stumble across an abandoned grave dating from the 1600’s.
Since its public domain somebody wanna go and do a Catholic edit to Stoker's Dracula? Its a great book, just replace the Eucharist he gets an "indulgence" for and swap it for some holy salt and water he can make some vampiric repellent mortar out of.
Greattttt. I was just watching TnT ystdy on vampires, Dracula and Frankenstein. Then, this comes out 😄😄
I have to go between Taylor and Gordon and this talk show to balance my seriousness and silliness.
The Catholic Church the Roman Catholic Church hit the biblical prophecy of the coming of vampires and then darkness has been trying to fight them, there is a clear difference in the depiction in the book of a vampire and a human, they artwork is fantastic and the depiction is quite literally spot on, and you can definitely tell the difference between a vampire and a human. Lying about it and hiding it is only making it easier for those who carry out the darkness of that prophecy
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They're smart, funny, happy guys. Plus informative. Were else you gonna find that these days.
Caine too, in some "traditions", is seen as a "first vampire": he shed blood, and was "marked" by God...
The word "strigoi", Romanian for vampires (the undead, not the cute animals), comes from the Latin word "striga", which gives to us Italians the words "strega" (which) and "stridore" (a high pitched screeching sound).
Vlad III probably converted to Catholicism due to the fall of Constantinople. Since the Eastern Orthodox church lost its authority it also lost much of its relevance in the fight against the Ottomans. The Pope endorsed the Christian resistance and Vlad seemed to understand rather quickly that he had to convert in order to swiftly muster support for his quest. For Vlad this was probably not a big deal since the threat from the invading Ottomans was as alarming as it could ever be.
The decomposition of the body upon death. In The Brothers Karamazov by Dostoyevsky, the foulness emitted from Father Zazamovs body and the superstitious reaction is something that struck as well... unfair.
so what if the vampire became a vampire without their consent. say a priest or nun that isn't in a state of mortal sin, gets bitten....they then go to heaven after the vampire is extinguished, Right?
DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE QING DANASTY AND HAVE TO PUT A YELLOW PAPER ON THEIR HEADS THEY MOVE WITH THIER BOTH ARMS AND HOP ON TWO FEET AND QING CLOTHINGS VERY SCARY
Listen, in all seriousness: You fellas make an actual vampire Slaying kit, and I will Literally take it as a sign from GOD, that I am supposed to join your patreon. 👍
There is this s Polish movie I have been watching and one person goes after the witch/seer with a stake and hammer.
Why does the sound cut out every so often?
The part about Dracula being the origin of the sauve glamorous vampire trope is not correct. That would actually be with the Romantics, namely John Polidori's The Vampyre (1819), and maybe Le Fanu's Carmilla (1875). There is also the 1840s penny dreadful Varney the Vampyre but that does not really have the glamorous trope. Actually Dracula does not either, although the character is very compelling. It's more that the female vampires are glamorous but not Dracula himself. You don't see that until movie versions of Dracula from Lugosi onwards. Also, the inability to go out in daylight is not in the novel, it's just that his powers are reduced, plus combusting in dayligh6 is not present in any other pre Dracula vampire fiction or in any folklore. It's actually first introduced in the silent film adaptation of Dracula Nosferatu (1922).
Science says fingernails do not grow after death, the skin shrinks so it appears the nails have grown.
Now we're dealing with a full on Vampire-Zombie Apocalypse in these evil times! Praying that God puts these ghouls we're dealing with back into the hellish pits they crawled out of!
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Was nice at first... Then drifted out in between...
So, basically one effect, if accurately done in terms of the supernatural interacting with the preternatural in the views of the Catholic Church is that such a monster, and their coworkers, would get really really really uncomfortable in the presence of someone in a state of grace, especially if said person has just received Holy Communion, and their Maker in that sacrament, eh, guys?
Yup... there's a reason why crucifixes and the Sacrament work to repel vampires that isn't much explored in fiction anymore.
Marvel Comics Blade the Vampire Hunter's mother was but while pregnant, and that's how he became a day hunter.
Technically Blade is a Dhampir, a half vampire/half human hybrid.
My neighbor is a vampire..
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Artemis cursing Ambrosio and him biting Selene his lover, so she could live forever but from now. And from this lore you see it is a curse inflicted by the fallen angels.Also Ambrogio was drinking the blood of the game he would hunt. Artemis did that, so she could get back a silver bow she gave him to hunt. Unfortunately Ambrosio became Alergic due to the natural aversion to silver, fire and holy water from a natural spring vampires have. Also wooden stakes do this if you want to get killed if not bring a silver and Iron sword.In order to kill it pierce the heart and twist it that will kill it. Works on Vetelas as well unless you are a warrior, you are holy, have exorcist skills and you have the Divine Spirit dwelling in you also. You are pretty much dead meat also goes for demons train warriors to do this job not weakling clergy members those. Vetelas are real and they are vampires have paralyzing venom in their saliva and have teeth like sharks only much smaller. They posses a corpse and appear as they are alive, so pale skin is a myth.
So, you are really going to claim that in medieval times people were not familiar with the de-composition process of a dead body? I would say it was the opposite!!
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I heard Dracula was a Catholic and he was ex communicated a killing so many people.
He was a Catholic but he was not excommunicated
The pope supported him
He was a "crusader" and the only one at the time to answer the call of the pope. The other rulers were busy fighting amongst themselves
Inquisition question: Depictions of Jesus, Our Lady, and the saints differ from culture to culture. For instance In japan Our Lady and the infant Jesus are depicted as a Japanese princess and a young Prince whereas in Mexico Our Lady of Guadalupe appeared as a Aztec Princess. So, say aliens were found and they were found to have free, rational souls and they were baptized into the One True Church of Christ. Would these Catholic Aliens have images and statues of Christ and the saints, specifically Our Lady, depicted in the physical form of their species or would they just use the human likeness of Jesus and the saints?
There is only one God; some people know Him better than others.
Only Humans have Rational Souls and bodies.
@@JPX7NGD What defines human? What defines a rational soul?
@@theetemplar5422 I can understand if you do not know what a Highest-Ordered Rational Soul is, but you do not know what being human is? Humans are Perfectly Spiritual and Perfectly Material; we have a Rational Soul (highest, gives free will and intellect) and a body Lovingly Made in the Image of God.
@@JPX7NGD First, it was a rhetorical question. Second: St. Thomas Aquinas says in Question 3, article 1, reply to Objection 2:
"Man is said to be after the image of God, not as regards his body, but as regards that whereby he excels other animals. Hence, when it is said, "Let us make man to our image and likeness", it is added, "And let him have dominion over the fishes of the sea" (Gn. 1:26). Now man excels all animals by his reason and intelligence; hence it is according to his intelligence and reason, which are incorporeal, that man is said to be according to the image of God." Thirdly: the original question was rhetorical in nature and took for granted the rational and intelligent souls (ei: image of God) of the aliens in question.
If we use Buffy as the new rules for vampires, the demon gets your body but not your soul. So of course you couldn't give last rights as you're just a meat suit to steal a term from supernatural, vampires from Buffy and angel look the best out of all the films and TV shows in my opinion.
Easy, guys. No time for slurs. If you're talking about Protestants, just say Prot- oh... you're talking about "actual" vampires... OK. Carry on...
Duh..vampires are not real...but the chupacabra ooohhh
The Serbian Orthodox Church is just a cover for vampires.
How so?
Vampires don't have soul!
Wouldn't it be funny if the two Dominicans who wrote the Maleus Malificarum did so over the course of consuming alcohol, as a thought project, purely for entertainment? 😂
I stop watching this the guy explaining the sound on how the come out the ground made it wack
I thought Lilith was a heretical myth!
Horrible episode, no point in talking about this garbage. We should not be watching dark films and those that deal with occult subjects. As for vampires, there are real life people who call themselves vampires. They drink blood or they are energy drinkers, feeding off the life force. This is a occult, demonic movement. So much for this episode. Talking of occult matters and folk lore. I think they could honestly do a real talk, that has substance.
1 silver bullet are for werewolves
2 its Annotating of the Sick not last rights
What's gross about human composting? That's what is supposed to happen to bodies. If God hadn't wanted us to be composted, we wouldn't have been made out of meat and bone.
What's gross is embalming bodies and keeping them around!
I love that, here in Israel, bodies aren't embalmed, but I hate that they then bury them under slabs of concrete. Buried, in a desert, under a slab of concrete.
Might as well mummify me and put me in an Egyptian temple.
*shakes head* No, God willing, I'll die in Washington or Oregon.
Too much walffy about nothing. Get too the point.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green
This is the quality Catholic content I sub for. As fas as the end of the discussion, Fr. is right, their animating Soul from God is not what is propelling the animated corpse, any repentance would be calculated to play on our empathy to not kill it. It has a rational mind, but is an animated corpse by the devil.
The concept of vampirism is really dependent on which genre you happen to be reading or watching at the time. Anne Rices’ novels, Depict vampires that are still Catholic in nature, and are quite fond of looking at crucifixes. Holy water and sticks through the heart are in effective. Wow vampires in the twilight Saga are completely different. As a sidenote, the stake through the heart was not meant to kill a vampire. It was only meant to keep them nailed down to their coffin so they could not escape. I personally think that shoving a crucifix in somebody’s face or using it to ward off evil is sacrilegious. The only reason anyone should have a crucifix around their neck, or hanging on their wallI is because they believe and what it stands for, and that is that our Lord and Savior died on the cross for the Forgiveness of our sins.
The Crucifix, Holy Water and the Rosary; all these Sacramentals are Spiritual Weapons.
Fingernails don’t grow after death. That takes oxygen. However, your fingertips do retract giving the appearance of longer nails.
I vaguely remember a movie that made Judas become Dracula, which explains why he is repelled by silver and crucifixes.
That was "Dracula 2000".
I heard that.
@@CoryTheRaven Ah.
I think the Judas angle was also touched on in the Tales from the Crypt vampire movie from 1994. The name eludes me right now...
sounds like a good move, they din't make Judas a good guy though did they?
Father Ripperger an exorcist priest said Lilith is a demon....not the first wife of Adam.
you are correct, it is a demon; also it isn't a woman (spirits have no reproduction, so no need for women).
From what I've read, the old hebrew myths say Lilith left Eden and joined demons at the sea to the west, and her children, by demons, attempt to strangle the newborn descendants of Eve out of spite.
@@Nyxlave demons can't mate, Adam and Eve were the first and only humans before the fall. Oy vey, occultists are not be be believed.
@Alejandra Serena V.C. by "j tradition" you mean an absurd satanist story that was adopted (if at all) by t*lmudic js hundreds of years after Israel was perfected into The Catholic Church.
your satanic belief in this woman, is neither Catholic or Jish at all. you got it from an occult text claiming it was some "long lost jish belief." when it really dates to george macdonald.
kind of like how "wicca" was created in 1950 and "druidism" in the late 1800's.
Study the vampire creatures in Asia. Very similar but with unusual differences.
Recycled People: Soylent Green.
Close. Alucard in Castlevania is half vampire. Not Simon Bellmont. He is from a clan of vampire hunters.
Symphony of the night is still one of my favorite games. Alucard was too difficult to work with on Castlevania 3
…………. NERD!!!
lol jk
I was about to say the same thing. Haha.
Spell alucard backwards 🤨😂
Nails don’t continue to grow after death. The skin starts to dehydrate and “shrink” giving the appearance the nails are growing.
I think that vampires were/are the fallen angels described in Genesis 6. G:6, as well as Jude 6, seem to describe the angels who fell in order to come to earth and mate with human women, in a power grab to establish their own line. And the Book of Enoch describes this fall in greater detail, giving the place (Mt. Hermon) where the fallen angels came to earth to start their rebellion. And Enoch also gives the names of some of the leaders of the fallen angels. So, the theory goes that these fallen angels needed to drink blood in order to "fall," that is to leave their spiritual state and to be able to mate with physical beings. The fallen angels came to earth to mate with women, and vampires are typically depicted as seducing or assaulting women. The presence of blood in our bodies signifies our fallen/physical state. When Adam and Eve were first created, they didn't have blood, signified by Adam's statement when he first met Eve that she was "flesh of my flesh, bone of my bone." Today, when we say that someone is related to us we say that person is my "flesh and blood," not "flesh and bone."
Popular culture, movies, books, and the like, portray vampires as being sexy. The sex appeal of vampires to some might be due to some women's guilt about enjoying sex. So they like to fantasize a man, or vampire, as the one who hypnotizes them, that is, the one who takes responsibility for the decision to have sex. So these type of women like to feel that it really isn't their fault for having sex or for enjoying sex, and it's the man's (or the vampire's) fault or the man or vampire who made them do it.
In the Buffyverse, vampires have no soul. There are spells that can give a vampire their soul back (a gypsy curse gave Angel's soul back. Then he lost it when he did the thing with Buffy, but then he got it back again.). Once he got his soul back, he was very remorseful and stopped killing people in order to feed. They are rational and sentient, obviously, but have no soul.
Your fingernails and hair do not grow after death. It appears that way due to the pulling away of the skin from the hair and nails due to decomposition.
This was a very fun episode, enjoyed it!
Is there a reason why certain times your audio is lost?
Anyone else here because of Well-Read Moms?
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Yes first vampires where in serbia belgrade
If he's alive enough to request the last rites (the anointing of the sick) then he's alive enough to receive the rite.
(But I'm pagan. We have more mercy than monotheists.)
Your fingernails do not continue to grow. There is some shrinking of tissue, which may make the nails appear a little longer.
I'm torn. On the one hand, composting my corpse or a simple green burial are the most environmentally friendly (and therefore cause the least harm to others) but, on the other hand, cremation is so fast and so traditional (and aquamation is fast but more environmentally friendly).
I guess the perfect balance is freeze-drying my remains so that they can be buried and compost naturally.
As long as someone plants holy Tulasi above my remains, whether freeze-dried or cremated or aquamated, all is well.
A truly moral man, even if turned into a vampire, will still desire to good, and thus will starve himself to the point of insanity or ask someone to lay him to rest, rather than drink blood. I saw a truly just man be turned into a vampire, he begged me to lay him to rest. I am a Polytheist who believes in El Elyon(God Most High) and his 70 sons, of which Jesus Christ was unique. But this man was a Christian. Because my beliefs allowed me pray for this man's soul to go to God Most High and the Unique Son, as this man had asked of me to do while I lay him to rest. I prayed as follows: "O God Most High,
let not this mortal soul be eternally lost, rather for his faith in the holy name of Jesus Christ, give him entrance into paradise."
So inspiring. Thank you so much!
So back then, they didn't know what happens to people when they die. But did they know that people die when they are killed?
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Hungarian vampir and northern Turkey.
This is utterly ridiculous.
So so fake
Who is the priest ?
What if Cain was a Vampire, since God cursed him to walk the earth.
Vampires are dead and they gave up their soul to evil
I think vampires are half way dead not completely dead. Their souls are not detached from there bodies since they aren't in heaven or hell or maybe even purgatory. So I think they might still have a chance at last rights. Once they're completely dead and come back as ghosts not vampires then I think that's when it'd be too late for last rights.
Embarrassing to anyone who may be considering Catholicism.
but Howie is not dead dead ----he's undead...so it's a go...
Wait, the priest doesn't know about the Malleus Malleficarum?
He's not a real priest, is he?
I mean, I've read the (English translation of the) Malleus, and I'm just a Wiccan priest (and a practicing Hindu).
You got most of it right Lilith was Adam's first wife but she refused Adam during sex being that she wanted to be on the top. This comes from Genesis chapter 1 in which man and woman were created the same way from dust. This leads Lilith to leave Adam because she refused to submit herself to him. As the story goes Adam wanted Lilith back so God sent three angels to retrieve her. When the angels caught up to her she refused to return to Adam the angels warned her that she would be cursed but because of the kindness the angels shown her she promised to harm no one who bears their names. Of course when she left Adam she had relations with beasts otherwise demons which changed her into a demon she is the first succubus. The curse she was given after refusing to return to Adam is that a hundred of her offspring would die each day. In retaliation against God she would in turn kill a hundred of the offspring of Adam and Eve each day. She spares men and children she preys upon whom wear a talisman bearing the three names of the angels whom were kind to her this actually was a superstition that people believed in during the Middle Ages.
A succubus is a female demon that invades the dreams of men stealing their seed. They change into an inccubus a male demon who rapes women using the seed they stollen to impregnate women whom will give birth to other succubus. Also succubus kill infants which is why it was not uncommon during the Middle Ages to place the talisman with the three names of the angels in their cribs to protect children from the succubus. Of course latter on the death of infants would be attributed to SIDS.
Where the hell do you get this occult crap from? a george macdonald book or milton? neither are Catholic. What you have said is NOT Scripture, certainly.
@@JPX7NGD it's Jewish folk tradition.
@@CoryTheRaven it's occult nonsense invented by calvinist fiction authors for books like "paradise lost" and "lillith." you mindless occultists really can't tell relaity from fiction, can you?
@@JPX7NGD dude, I don't believe in occult powers or vampires or any of that shit. Explaining where those beliefs came from is not the same thing as saying you believe in it. You need to take a breather.
@@CoryTheRaven and you need to stop trying to jump on occultism.