Mickey Mouse: No you don't pal because your number 2# or second most favorite character because I come first before you were born in 1940 and I was born in 1928 and that means I was came first in the 19's before you pal
As The Strongest Cartoon, Mickey Mouse, Fought The Forgotten Cartoon, Oswald The lucky Rabbit, He Began To Open His Public Domain. Oswald Shrunk Back In Fear, Then Mickey Said, "Stand Proud, Oswald, You Are Strong."
You know. Something Interesting I think we should think about is what if the king of cartoons (Mickey) and the King of Video Games (Mario) were to go head to head, having a sorta composite version of the two.
Mario Vs Mickey is definitely a far closer and more interesting matchup than many would give it credit for. Composite Mario is honestly really strong in his own right, and the idea of him even having "Toon Force" of his own is honestly pretty cool, if not slightly debatable. Maybe when the second movie, or a new 3D game drops? It could be a great topic to cover. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@TUCKALMIGHTY It's no problem. I am a huge fan of Mario and Mickey respectfully, but everyone thinks that Mario is way weaker then Sonic. Not saying that some of the points are not true for sonic, but I kinda feel like people don't get Mario respect in these types of things. So I thought it would be interesting to see how Mario and Mickey stack up to each other since they are.. surprisingly similar to my eyes.
You wanna know what's even scarier? Mickey fights these blobs in Epic Mickey that are imbued with thinner. As in, their claws are literally made of thinner material. And Mickey can tank it quite easily. So its questionable if thinner would even work on him, basically negating one of the only ways you could possibly kill a cartoon character. People like to say Bugs is broken or Spongebob is broken, even without Kingdom Hearts Mickey is one of the strongest toons out there.
yk whats funny... mickey mouse is boundless since he doesnt have a canon anymore and since hes public domain everything the media gives mickey he actually has
In my opinion, mickey, bugs, popeye, daffy, goofy, roger, SpongeBob and other toons are the strongest beings in both fiction since they can interact with non fiction beings
It falls apart when taking into consideration on the other side's capabilities of snatching away or destroying the brush. Anyone with good influence, mind manipulation, and existence erasure resistances can resist the Brush's effects. Also cartoons from other series like LTs and SpongeBob aren't the same as the ones from Mickey Mouse. LTs are digitally animated and have Conceptual Regen ATM thanks to Space Jam 2. And SpongeBob is canonically a literal Sea Sponge. Like not even joking he's just a sponge. Not a creature made out of paint or ink. If anything SpongeBob can absorb the Paint and Thinner can shoot it back at Mickey. Due to his physiology giving him a natural advantage to the Brush.
2:35 Toonforce is literally just reality warping, it doesn't matter if characters use them they still need to show feats that are above the characters they are fighting.
Mickey Mouse, the character, is completely in the public domain. You can use him however you’d like, in any setting, situation, or story. The only things you can’t use, are part of Disney’s trademark (such as his modern design/voice actor) But any real project involving the mouse, would likely have its own interpretation of Mickey’s famous design (so the first part doesn’t matter) and you can easily find a voice actor who suits your needs for the role (or defer to a voiceless media) So? Yeah. Mickey Mouse, as character, is basically unrestricted in the public domain. Just a handful of trademarked elements are still locked up in copyright limbo.
@@ymkyourmoneyking8157 he legit said that in the text and i quote "The only things you can’t use, are part of Disney’s trademark (such as his modern design/voice actor)"
As far as I know? Everything is canon to Mickey (as long as it was made by Disney) since most of its interconnected by Disney themselves. But Kingdom Hearts & Epic Mickey might be the exception. Since while they both are canon to Steamboat Willie (since that’s Mickey’s origin in both) no reference is made to the other in their own games. So 95% of it is canon to everything. And optional gear like the Brush/Keyblade are canon to games & cartoons. Just? Maybe not to each other. Hope that helps!
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Epic Mickey is Canon since it references other various cartoons from Mickey's history. Kingdom Hearts is the only thing that's debatably not canon.
@@TheMainOne2.0 king mickey is cartoon mickey cuz in kh2 we travel back in time to the 1920's era and mickey shakes soras hand and waves and leaves... canonically revealing kh is also connected to cartoon mickey aka normal mickey mouse
Seeing people in the comments get MAD that Mickey just by the sheer force of his own reality can beat character like Goku is really funny to me This is why Mickey and Bugs are pals because if they fought it would literally go on forever lol
Gee wilikers! This folk gets it!... Now by the time that I write this, to be fair lads, Anime does have some toon Shenanigans on their own, Arale and Bobobobo as starters could indeed be interesting... *There is also another just as unseeming... Whom didn't originate from anime, he is more so a hybrid of: live action, toon, comics, etc. etc.*
@@noahalcantar2431 People show that in that way in online,they canonicly don't know each other,or if they was meet its possible that they would be friends since Mickey is a friendly guy
6:14 Not necessarily. Superman has cononically just out right left the comic before and within the narrative can effect the “real world” I use air quotes as outside of Hatsune Miku. No fictional character (I’m aware of anyway) had actually entered our real physical world in a way that wasn’t staged or edited within the peice of media they were in
That’s one of the biggest reasons, why Mickey Mouse is potentially the strongest. He’s shown the ability to beat other Toons, who have also escaped fiction. Debatably putting him in a tier, above them- in some regards.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Yeah it’s interesting depending on how you choose to look at it. Cause technically speaking the “real world” of fiction is not actually the Real world in our sense. But still impressive within the narrative of the story.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Idk about that. Bugs has come back from Existence Erasure before on a Conceptual level in Space Jam 2. Thinner likely won't work on him. Especially since LTs are canonically digitally animated now.
15:29 WITNESS? HE *CAUSED* IT. Mickey's death count is probably so high, the other Disney Villains would be jealous. Also to add, if the comics version of Mickey (both Floyd Gottfredson along with Topolino) is also included, Mickey's been shown to be quite knowledgeable on guns, mostly six shooter handguns and double-barrel shotguns, uses them quite confidently. Also, from both the comics and the films, Mickey hits hard. Like hes knocked out Pete several times and theres even a comic where he beats up the Beagle boys + Pete in a 4-on-1 fight and won it before Donald could even hype himself to fight them too. God (or more accurately, Walt Disney) made Mickey a 2'3 shortstack because if he was any taller, he would be throwing hands with everyone and Disney cant have that
Just thinking that in Kingdom Hearts he fills up the Sage Mague stereotype, which is usually the strongest kind of spellcasters in FF universe, tells a lot. Combine that with his other incarnations and you have a mouse that can handle almost anything he must to.
16:38 Correct me if I’m wrong but can’t some of the bosses in the game survive the paint thinner? Would you say that’s more so just a game mechanic or a canonical point that certain characters if they’re powerful enough Can resist it?
From what I remember, the only bosses unaffected by the paint thinner are described to be physical, tangible creatures. Made of real life materials as opposed to Ink. Which would make them more akin, to a real person- as opposed to a fictional character. Besides that though? As long as Mickey has enough thinner, he can erase any other Toon we've met in Disney/WB canon.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Understandable and that would make sense Granted though making sure it’ll land itself isn’t always an instant guarantee. As getting the hell out of the way before it hits is an option and logically so
@@TUCKALMIGHTY you heard what he said you're out of your mind if you think Mickey Mouse solo all fiction I got a thousand Shonen Jump anime characters that can defeat Mickey Mouse I already said Goku saitama Luffy Naruto Ichigo Deku gon Kirito from Sao guts from berserk yusuke from yu yuhakuso yugi asta Tanjiro kumagawa Edward. From fullmetal. Aang from avatar the last airbender all of these characters whould actually one shot Mickey mouse this is facts
I can see why you’d think that, since Mickey definitely isn’t the strongest in Kingdom hearts. But in the context of this video, Mickey’s Kingdom Hearts Feats aren’t his best, when compared to the other feats a composite Mickey has. I probably should’ve done a better job explaining that? But no, characters like Sora & Riku probably don’t solo fiction, as they lack Toon Force (as does everyone else in Kingdom Hearts as far as I know.) But a composite Mickey Mouse, who has similar scaling to them ontop of Toon Force, and a Toon deleting Paint Brush, should probably be much stronger (at least, IMO) Hope that answers your question!
I’m not super up to date with what Wally can do in Rebirth. But I’m pretty sure he’s got nothing in his toolkit strong enough to deal with Toon Force. As leaving the story would make Mickey beyond even infinite speed (as he would exist on a higher level of reality) So prime to prime? Toon Force beats out Speed Force. Kingdom hearts Mickey by himself probably loses though.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY a lot of DC heralds have messed with the narrative as HyperTime in DC is just that. Holds all the stories that have been told in the DC mythos. COIE, Flashpoint, Rebirth, and Infintie Frontiers are canonically cosmologically and narratively changing events made by the characters. Superman himself is a narrative linchpin in the DC cosmos. As he's the quintessential hero archetype and his narrative is canonically strong enough that the writers couldn't change it, and Dr Manhattan couldn't permanently get rid of him. As no matter what there's always a Superman in each universe fighting for justice and peace. DC's narrative shenanigans are above anything Mickey has done in the realm of being a composite character.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY True but Disney still owns ownership of the words “Mickey Mouse” and the character when he’s colored You can parady steam boat Willie which is still Mickey. You just can’t have him colored lol Unless there was something regarding the contract stated his colored design is also fair game?
Trademark laws in the US are definitely a bit tricky, but as far as I know. The name “Mickey Mouse” is sort of a gray area in regards to legality. Since you can’t use trademarked content to promote your own brand/product- However? You can use the name within a work of fiction (such as a game, story, etc.) So from how I understand it? You can use the classic Mickey design, his name, and all lore in his earlier cartoons- You just aren’t allowed to use his colors, or his modern design. (& he can’t be used to promote your brand, due to trademark laws.)
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Ah I see that makes sense. Thank you for the polite correction Funnily enough though, well a company obviously can’t own the name of their characters. The CEOs of Nintendo truly believe that they do and tried to sue a UA-camr over it. If you’ve ever heard of Super Mario Logan They were obviously in the wrong but your not gonna win a court case against a multi billion dollar company
Man. You forgot something really important to complement your argument. Mickey was owned by the most rich and famous enterprise in the world. Disney. That makes his Toon Force even more powerful. Because Toon Force characters interact with authors. So if the power source came from outside. We need to consider real life too.
@@noahalcantar2431 technically their toon forms are also their comic forms as well so... yes it does... also mui shaggy solos all of fiction (mui shaggy is canon to shaggy warner bros confirmed it)
Amazing video and scaling! But I have one disney character who can beat Mickey Mouse. 8:59 The illuminati dorito chip here, Bill Cipher, actually has writer powers, crossover abilities, and fiction bending powers aswell. He could beat him.
I don’t know a lot about Bill Cipher’s scaling? But unless you scale him off his real world ARG game. Then as far as I know, he’s just a regular reality warper with mild 4th wall awareness. So he can control almost all things in fiction, but when Mickey leaves fiction- to write his powers away? Then Bill would likely be helpless to do anything- besides watching Mickey do it. This is also sort of supported by Bill being tricked, and dying in gravity falls. Where as if he was beyond fiction- he would’ve made the writers room do something else. At least? As far as I know. Bill might’ve gotten some more high tier scaling in recent years.
@Rogongodldk Is the Book of Bill meant to be set in the real world? Or Gravity Falls continuity. And if it’s set in the Fictional continuity, Bill influencing the writer of the book, doesn’t necessarily mean he’s fully escaped fiction. As much as it means he’s got fourth wall awareness, and some level of writer influencing ability.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY I dunno. But it's going to have more stuff about Bill, and he's the one writing a real book. As far as the real world canon goes, I'm pretty sure it's his statue being brought to the real world, then he gets Alex Hirsch(his writer) to shake his hand, so he possesses him, makes the reddit AMA, and then writes the book. So atm he would be possessing the writer. Meaning his soul is in the real world.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Goku did not lose to Arale. When did that ever happen? She was able to match him in blue. And this was before the TOP which means he surpassed her
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Also please tell me you’ve seen SSJRyu1 video on the Arale scale. He shows all feats that arale has done and uhh yeah she’s one shotting mickey
Goku in blue was keeping up with regular Arale, before she activated "100 Times Power Mode" and almost completely smoked him. The only character who is definitively above Arale in DBS? Is Beerus, and Beerus (by the Manga standards, and more debatably? The Anime) Is probably stronger than Goku. As for Mickey Vs Arale? Mickey is immortal, and immune to any sort of damage that exists within fiction (off of scaling to Buggs Bunny) and he also has a brush that can dissolve Arale into ink? So I didn't really see a strong Win Con for her. Since her best feats are basically time traveling, and editing the manga panels. Which? Isn't as impressive, as being unaffected by the artist trying to erase you.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Arale literally got erased from the narrative and still came back 💀 also no arale wasn’t going to “Smoke Goku” literally zero evidence for that. Also did you forget the statement for the TOP that stated UI omen Goku surpassed Beerus? And that wasn’t even MUI yet lmao. Also yes I can link the statement
I don't think that goofy like the other characters that are basically toons can brake his neck or something else,they just did this to put some drama because kingdom hearts! So in other words to all those characters can be applied the laws of physics called the toon force.We saw this with popeye beating up saitama in the death battle as well,no matter what saitama did or tried to do to the sailor failed since a classic toon character cannot possibly die or injured so much like goofy here! Also mickey is the king to the real life since he has disney as a corporation god behind he's back,even though he is in the public domain! I don't think disney will let so easily mickey be the play thing of the world without copyright issues! 😅 Also the deep since it is something that was existed to the real world a capable cartoon character will not leave it close to it,plus the important rule of a cartoon can be made again out of nothing as we witnessed it over the years in the toons we watched!
@@TheMainOne2.0It's just I'm bothered by Mickey Mouse getting brought up in Vs Battle debates with people making him win in every fight. I want to see him lose and die
People who were waiting for the TOTTFIY segment when it goes crazy to hit in a section of the scene that made total sense only for everything I said to not happen must comment on this comment.
@TUCKALMIGHTY his paint brush being mickeys strongest weapon do to it being useful against hand drown characters and it also of he loses it he can't use hammer space to pull out again do to it being one of a kinda the if anything the keyblade would be his best weapon do to it having the ability to come back to mickey if he loses it and it's more wide range of abilities
The Key-blade is useful, and has a lot of versatility. But Mickey's paintbrush can canonically erase Toons, who are so strong- that even writer's can't erase them. Based on WFRR, this would include characters like Buggs Bunny, Woody Wood Pecker, and other cameos-- who all have their own set of writer surpassing feats. And while Mickey can lose his brush? Due to his serious, non-toonforce abilities (such as time manipulation, or teleportation). There shouldn't be any reason, why he can't consistently protect his brush long enough- to melt any fictional character.
@@TUCKALMIGHTYThe problem is Thinner wouldn't work on SpongeBob or Bugs to very obvious reasons. Toons in those Universes aren't the same as the ones in Mickey Mouse. As they have long moved past the Roger Rabbit era of Ink and Paint. Hell SpongeBob is canonically a literal sponge, despite him being drawn. If anything he'd just soak up the Thinner. Bugs on the other hand is canonically digitally animated, and has come back from EE before like in Space Jam 2 where Al erased Bugs completely from the server verse, which includes all his information and files. And came back afterwards. And if this wasn't enough, Bugs's luck is canonically so stupid that literal bullets coming toward him turn into butterflies. Who's to say the Thinner wouldn't back fire on Mickey or just turn into something else like Milk or Water? Bugs also has multiple ways of getting rid of the brush. He can make as many clones as he can to evade the paint and thinner, Bugs has also resisted mind control and influence on several occasions so the Paint controlling Bugs or his clones likely wouldn't work, he can snatch it away off screen, or just destroy it with the various explosives he has. The Brush is powerful but it's not indestructible, and it does have a finite amount of Paint and Thinner.
@@Running9750 it doesnt matter how strong or how durable they are they will still get erased... btw mickey is the only recorded toon in history to have survived thinner
Mickey doesn't particularly use the toonforce nearly as much as other toons, I think you're being silly. The most powerful characters are more likely to be Heckle and Jeckle, the magpies from the Terrytoons cartoons. Where most characters need to follow some sort of logic, and by "logic" I mean "the rule of funny;" these two aren't even bound by that. They've fully realized that they are cartoon characters, and as such can do anything; and to prove it, one of them turns into a mouse. No gag, no puff of smoke, no spinning around, he's just a mouse now, and when he's bored of that, he turns back. I haven't seen _all_ their cartoons, but every one I have seen is like this. They have a short maid and butler dialogue for the audience about how they can do anything, and then they do.
yes ima have to rewrite this for u chat.... he is the only toon in recorded history to survive the dip aka thinner cuz in who framed roger rabbit it states that no matter how strong or durable you are… you will be erased and wont be coming back but mickey somehow only got hurt by it and survived thinner and was able to control thinner. he can also create new timelines. he is a canon jedi master.. he can control the cosmos aka stars and comets, he is the 2nd strongest keyblade wielder… and mickey doesnt have a canon and since he is public domain… everything the media gives him he has… and its confirmed that mickey mouse in his mirrorverse form is boundless alone where he is a dreamer and he uses stellar magic to kill his foes… also mickey with the brush is outerversal alone because he is able to create, destroy universes, timelines, and make new toons and erase any toon he wants no matter how strong they are... also the games and comics are connected to cartoon mickey because in the epic mickey intro it states that he got famous and it shows a bunch of famous cartoons.. that means his base form actually has the brush. and king mickey is cartoon mickey cuz in kh2 we travel back in time to the 1920's era and mickey shakes soras hand and waves and leaves... canonically revealing kh is also connected to cartoon mickey
@@Briskvr Dip and thinner are two different things. Dip is a concoction of primarily acetone, benzene, and turpentine; and that's just the stuff that is publicly known. I'm sure Judge Doom also added some illegal deus ex-machina chemical to the mix, but for the sake of argument, let's say he hasn't. In fact, let's just focus on turpentine versus paint thinner, of those two, turpentine is far stronger, and is the premium product. The idea that Mickey surviving thinner means he could survive Dip, is about as silly as saying somebody survived walking on hot coals, so they could survive walking on lava. Anyhow, the rest of your rant is ignoring all the MacGuffins at play. Yen Sid's hat controls the stars and comets, the brush, and his keyblade are the ones doing the magic stuff. Look, I'm not saying he isn't _formidable,_ just that he isn't quite as omnipotent as you seem to think he is.
@@Wendy_O._Koopa mickey is outerversal with the brush alone also in epic mickey it says that thinner can erase toons so... i have been doing research on mickey for 10 years... mickey escaped being a canon being... also yen sids hat doesnt control the brush cuz 1. how would epic mickey even come to be... 2. how would mickey even be able to summon his keyblade and 3. yen sid later on gave mickey all those things..
I do think Mickey beats Super Goku. But he doesn't win against CC/Xeno Goku. He scales to a much bigger set of cosmos and has resisted various amounts of hax similar to the Brush. Hakai being one of them as it isn't just regular EE but will wipe you out of reality entirely.
You think Mickey Mouse beating Goku ha don't make me laugh Goku destroys Mickey Mouse bro why are you doing this video just to be a troll Superman would be Mickey Mouse probably I guess you can say that stupid
yes ima have to rewrite this for u chat.... he is the only toon in recorded history to survive the dip aka thinner cuz in who framed roger rabbit it states that no matter how strong or durable you are… you will be erased and wont be coming back but mickey somehow only got hurt by it and survived thinner and was able to control thinner. he can also create new timelines. he is a canon jedi master.. he can control the cosmos aka stars and comets, he is the 2nd strongest keyblade wielder… and mickey doesnt have a canon and since he is public domain… everything the media gives him he has… and its confirmed that mickey mouse in his mirrorverse form is boundless alone where he is a dreamer and he uses stellar magic to kill his foes… also mickey with the brush is outerversal alone because he is able to create, destroy universes, timelines, and make new toons and erase any toon he wants no matter how strong they are... also the games and comics are connected to cartoon mickey because in the epic mickey intro it states that he got famous and it shows a bunch of famous cartoons.. that means his base form actually has the brush. and king mickey is cartoon mickey cuz in kh2 we travel back in time to the 1920's era and mickey shakes soras hand and waves and leaves... canonically revealing kh is also connected to cartoon mickey
Sorry for the wait everyone! Hope you enjoyed your Holidays.
While you're down here, tell me? Do we already need a part 2 for more of these OP Toons?
finally, you are power scaling some of the most evil of characters from the most evil corporation
Yeah also more of mickey feats
Hey TuckAlmighty have you did a video on how powerful Dora the Explorer is?
How is Papa John's Pizza, what is the relationship with Iron Man and Deadpool nowacomics?
@@NaturalOrderMickey Mouse is a murderous psycho killer that kills people
Nah... I'd Win Doc - Bugs Bunny
Mickey Mouse: No you don't pal because your number 2# or second most favorite character because I come first before you were born in 1940 and I was born in 1928 and that means I was came first in the 19's before you pal
Same comment
I think they’re pretty even
You are clowns he loses
@@RanjanRai-jr9onhe loses
As The Strongest Cartoon, Mickey Mouse, Fought The Forgotten Cartoon, Oswald The lucky Rabbit, He Began To Open His Public Domain. Oswald Shrunk Back In Fear, Then Mickey Said, "Stand Proud, Oswald, You Are Strong."
😂 “cause through the heavens and earth I alone am the most popular one”
With this spinach, i summon Popeye, the sailor man
He was cancelled for/in Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
You know. Something Interesting I think we should think about is what if the king of cartoons (Mickey) and the King of Video Games (Mario) were to go head to head, having a sorta composite version of the two.
Mario Vs Mickey is definitely a far closer and more interesting matchup than many would give it credit for. Composite Mario is honestly really strong in his own right, and the idea of him even having "Toon Force" of his own is honestly pretty cool, if not slightly debatable.
Maybe when the second movie, or a new 3D game drops? It could be a great topic to cover.
Thanks for the suggestion!
@@TUCKALMIGHTY It's no problem. I am a huge fan of Mario and Mickey respectfully, but everyone thinks that Mario is way weaker then Sonic. Not saying that some of the points are not true for sonic, but I kinda feel like people don't get Mario respect in these types of things. So I thought it would be interesting to see how Mario and Mickey stack up to each other since they are.. surprisingly similar to my eyes.
Minecraft Steve /kill and respawns indefinitely.
@@Ant_West I actually see Mario get over hyped way more than Sonic does
You wanna know what's even scarier? Mickey fights these blobs in Epic Mickey that are imbued with thinner. As in, their claws are literally made of thinner material. And Mickey can tank it quite easily. So its questionable if thinner would even work on him, basically negating one of the only ways you could possibly kill a cartoon character. People like to say Bugs is broken or Spongebob is broken, even without Kingdom Hearts Mickey is one of the strongest toons out there.
yk whats funny... mickey mouse is boundless since he doesnt have a canon anymore and since hes public domain everything the media gives mickey he actually has
goku: i can beat you, mickey mouse
mickey: hold my drink, goofy
In my opinion, mickey, bugs, popeye, daffy, goofy, roger, SpongeBob and other toons are the strongest beings in both fiction since they can interact with non fiction beings
I agree with you
@@RedRuv_OFFICIAL200cringe
@@noahalcantar2431 what? I did nothing to you?
@@RedRuv_OFFICIAL200Agreeing that toonforce characters solos fiction is cringe
DONALD DUCK is the strongest
The paint thinner win condition falls apart when Mickey is forced to fight Egyptian wall carvings
You know that a game mechanic
Game Mechanic
Spin move the weak spot
It falls apart when taking into consideration on the other side's capabilities of snatching away or destroying the brush. Anyone with good influence, mind manipulation, and existence erasure resistances can resist the Brush's effects.
Also cartoons from other series like LTs and SpongeBob aren't the same as the ones from Mickey Mouse. LTs are digitally animated and have Conceptual Regen ATM thanks to Space Jam 2. And SpongeBob is canonically a literal Sea Sponge. Like not even joking he's just a sponge. Not a creature made out of paint or ink.
If anything SpongeBob can absorb the Paint and Thinner can shoot it back at Mickey. Due to his physiology giving him a natural advantage to the Brush.
@@Running9750 lebron James powerscaling
8:38 I drew that Mickey almost 3 years ago..
😭damm
2:35 Toonforce is literally just reality warping, it doesn't matter if characters use them they still need to show feats that are above the characters they are fighting.
100% true
When will everyone realize that Mickey Mouse isn't completely in the public domain
Mickey Mouse, the character, is completely in the public domain.
You can use him however you’d like, in any setting, situation, or story.
The only things you can’t use, are part of Disney’s trademark (such as his modern design/voice actor)
But any real project involving the mouse, would likely have its own interpretation of Mickey’s famous design (so the first part doesn’t matter) and you can easily find a voice actor who suits your needs for the role (or defer to a voiceless media)
So? Yeah. Mickey Mouse, as character, is basically unrestricted in the public domain. Just a handful of trademarked elements are still locked up in copyright limbo.
@@TUCKALMIGHTYthey can only use a different version. The current Mickey exclusive to Disney
@@ymkyourmoneyking8157 he legit said that in the text and i quote "The only things you can’t use, are part of Disney’s trademark (such as his modern design/voice actor)"
How do we know whats canon to eachother and whats an alternate universe?
As far as I know? Everything is canon to Mickey (as long as it was made by Disney) since most of its interconnected by Disney themselves.
But Kingdom Hearts & Epic Mickey might be the exception. Since while they both are canon to Steamboat Willie (since that’s Mickey’s origin in both) no reference is made to the other in their own games.
So 95% of it is canon to everything. And optional gear like the Brush/Keyblade are canon to games & cartoons. Just? Maybe not to each other.
Hope that helps!
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Epic Mickey is Canon since it references other various cartoons from Mickey's history. Kingdom Hearts is the only thing that's debatably not canon.
@@TUCKALMIGHTYepic Mickey is canon, it’s based on the cartoon
@@TheMainOne2.0 king mickey is cartoon mickey cuz in kh2 we travel back in time to the 1920's era and mickey shakes soras hand and waves and leaves... canonically revealing kh is also connected to cartoon mickey aka normal mickey mouse
Bro did not just reference the Mickey mouse Clubhouse mouskatools
Toodles soloes.
Plenty of animated movies have a small body count, but a death in an animated SHOW is certainly an anomaly.
7:54
Now i have the image of Micky just yelling nuh uh on a battle to the death.
The no limits fallacy is strong with this one
theres fallacy for every argument at this point fallacy doesnt matter
Seeing people in the comments get MAD that Mickey just by the sheer force of his own reality can beat character like Goku is really funny to me
This is why Mickey and Bugs are pals because if they fought it would literally go on forever lol
Honestly, pretty goated comment lol.
Toon Force in itself, really is just too broken.
Gee wilikers! This folk gets it!...
Now by the time that I write this, to be fair lads, Anime does have some toon Shenanigans on their own, Arale and Bobobobo as starters could indeed be interesting...
*There is also another just as unseeming... Whom didn't originate from anime, he is more so a hybrid of: live action, toon, comics, etc. etc.*
@@TUCKALMIGHTY my opinion Bugs and Mickey would be great friends.
@@RedRuv_OFFICIAL200Isn't Mickey and Bugs enemies?
@@noahalcantar2431 People show that in that way in online,they canonicly don't know each other,or if they was meet its possible that they would be friends since Mickey is a friendly guy
I'm officially scared of Mickey Mouse now
My man is putting respect on my G.O.A.T
I love the thumbnail
6:14 Not necessarily. Superman has cononically just out right left the comic before and within the narrative can effect the “real world”
I use air quotes as outside of Hatsune Miku. No fictional character (I’m aware of anyway) had actually entered our real physical world in a way that wasn’t staged or edited within the peice of media they were in
That’s one of the biggest reasons, why Mickey Mouse is potentially the strongest.
He’s shown the ability to beat other Toons, who have also escaped fiction.
Debatably putting him in a tier, above them- in some regards.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Yeah it’s interesting depending on how you choose to look at it.
Cause technically speaking the “real world” of fiction is not actually the Real world in our sense. But still impressive within the narrative of the story.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Idk about that. Bugs has come back from Existence Erasure before on a Conceptual level in Space Jam 2. Thinner likely won't work on him. Especially since LTs are canonically digitally animated now.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY mui shaggy... need i say more
15:29 WITNESS? HE *CAUSED* IT. Mickey's death count is probably so high, the other Disney Villains would be jealous.
Also to add, if the comics version of Mickey (both Floyd Gottfredson along with Topolino) is also included, Mickey's been shown to be quite knowledgeable on guns, mostly six shooter handguns and double-barrel shotguns, uses them quite confidently.
Also, from both the comics and the films, Mickey hits hard. Like hes knocked out Pete several times and theres even a comic where he beats up the Beagle boys + Pete in a 4-on-1 fight and won it before Donald could even hype himself to fight them too.
God (or more accurately, Walt Disney) made Mickey a 2'3 shortstack because if he was any taller, he would be throwing hands with everyone and Disney cant have that
Just thinking that in Kingdom Hearts he fills up the Sage Mague stereotype, which is usually the strongest kind of spellcasters in FF universe, tells a lot. Combine that with his other incarnations and you have a mouse that can handle almost anything he must to.
Toon physics was a big subject in 1989’s Who Framed Roger Rabbit. This hybrid film featured ink golems from multiple studios.
16:38 Correct me if I’m wrong but can’t some of the bosses in the game survive the paint thinner?
Would you say that’s more so just a game mechanic or a canonical point that certain characters if they’re powerful enough Can resist it?
From what I remember, the only bosses unaffected by the paint thinner are described to be physical, tangible creatures. Made of real life materials as opposed to Ink. Which would make them more akin, to a real person- as opposed to a fictional character.
Besides that though? As long as Mickey has enough thinner, he can erase any other Toon we've met in Disney/WB canon.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Understandable and that would make sense
Granted though making sure it’ll land itself isn’t always an instant guarantee. As getting the hell out of the way before it hits is an option and logically so
mickey loses against irrelevance and dips in profits
The Pippi glitch opponent the opponent worthy
I'm all legends! (Mickey Mouse laugh) ;3 - Mickey Mouse.
Why does Saturo Mickey Mouse look adorable to me
@landandmanor Image Comics Spawn rips Mickey Mouse into bloody pieces
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@@landandmanorWhy are you crying?
@@noahalcantar2431 bro do I even need to tell you?!??!
@@landandmanorAlso Mario as Marioplex One shot this overrated Mouse
The one percent is the other cartoons. Only other people with tune force can defeat other ones
Can he solo mythological characters like sun wukong and Zeus
They don't have Toon Force.
You are out of your mind if you think that mikey solos fiction
How so?
@@TUCKALMIGHTY you heard what he said you're out of your mind if you think Mickey Mouse solo all fiction I got a thousand Shonen Jump anime characters that can defeat Mickey Mouse I already said Goku saitama Luffy Naruto Ichigo Deku gon Kirito from Sao guts from berserk yusuke from yu yuhakuso yugi asta Tanjiro kumagawa Edward. From fullmetal. Aang from avatar the last airbender all of these characters whould actually one shot Mickey mouse this is facts
I asked how so? How do those characters beat Mickey?
@@TUCKALMIGHTY as I said how can they beat Mickey Mouse as I see how can you beat Mickey Mouse is because the technique in their abilities
@@cjcj4861 Luffy can't even damage Mickey for good, how tf is he beating him?
The TOON KINGS
Mickey Mouse Characters
Looney Tunes
SpongeBob and Patrick
Mordecai and Rigby
Gumball and Darwin
Popeye smokes any and all
Fictional characters 💨
No he doesn’t
@@Messmer-the-impaler- ok lol
@@runredrambo he still doesn’t
@@Messmer-the-impaler- ok lol 😂 all talk and no research
@@runredrambonot bugs
TuckAlmighty how do you view Futurama?
But isn’t mickey not the strongest in the kingdom hearts verse so can they also solo all of fiction or is it just mickey
I can see why you’d think that, since Mickey definitely isn’t the strongest in Kingdom hearts.
But in the context of this video, Mickey’s Kingdom Hearts Feats aren’t his best, when compared to the other feats a composite Mickey has.
I probably should’ve done a better job explaining that? But no, characters like Sora & Riku probably don’t solo fiction, as they lack Toon Force (as does everyone else in Kingdom Hearts as far as I know.)
But a composite Mickey Mouse, who has similar scaling to them ontop of Toon Force, and a Toon deleting Paint Brush, should probably be much stronger (at least, IMO)
Hope that answers your question!
Thxs also another question do you think mickey could beat Wally west rebirth
I’m not super up to date with what Wally can do in Rebirth. But I’m pretty sure he’s got nothing in his toolkit strong enough to deal with Toon Force. As leaving the story would make Mickey beyond even infinite speed (as he would exist on a higher level of reality)
So prime to prime? Toon Force beats out Speed Force.
Kingdom hearts Mickey by himself probably loses though.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY a lot of DC heralds have messed with the narrative as HyperTime in DC is just that. Holds all the stories that have been told in the DC mythos. COIE, Flashpoint, Rebirth, and Infintie Frontiers are canonically cosmologically and narratively changing events made by the characters.
Superman himself is a narrative linchpin in the DC cosmos. As he's the quintessential hero archetype and his narrative is canonically strong enough that the writers couldn't change it, and Dr Manhattan couldn't permanently get rid of him. As no matter what there's always a Superman in each universe fighting for justice and peace.
DC's narrative shenanigans are above anything Mickey has done in the realm of being a composite character.
also u forgot mickeys disney infinity form and the mirrorverse form
0:57 No you aren’t. Only steam boat Willy is public domain
The rest of him is still Disney property
Mickey Mouse is Steamboat Willie. So you can use the classic Mickey Mouse design (and his likeness) however you choose.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY True but Disney still owns ownership of the words “Mickey Mouse” and the character when he’s colored
You can parady steam boat Willie which is still Mickey. You just can’t have him colored lol
Unless there was something regarding the contract stated his colored design is also fair game?
Trademark laws in the US are definitely a bit tricky, but as far as I know.
The name “Mickey Mouse” is sort of a gray area in regards to legality. Since you can’t use trademarked content to promote your own brand/product-
However? You can use the name within a work of fiction (such as a game, story, etc.)
So from how I understand it? You can use the classic Mickey design, his name, and all lore in his earlier cartoons-
You just aren’t allowed to use his colors, or his modern design. (& he can’t be used to promote your brand, due to trademark laws.)
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Ah I see that makes sense. Thank you for the polite correction
Funnily enough though, well a company obviously can’t own the name of their characters. The CEOs of Nintendo truly believe that they do and tried to sue a UA-camr over it. If you’ve ever heard of Super Mario Logan
They were obviously in the wrong but your not gonna win a court case against a multi billion dollar company
Tuck Almighty how do you rank The Black Cauldron?
Man. You forgot something really important to complement your argument. Mickey was owned by the most rich and famous enterprise in the world. Disney. That makes his Toon Force even more powerful. Because Toon Force characters interact with authors. So if the power source came from outside. We need to consider real life too.
also mickey solos all of comic and cartoon fiction but will never defeat i am that i am
7:19 🤨
elaborate?
Even Death fears MICKEY
Spawn: F off Mickey Mouse
@@noahalcantar2431 mickey cant die no matter what even thinner doesnt work on mickey
@@BriskvrNeither does Image Comics Spawn
@@noahalcantar2431 technically their toon forms are also their comic forms as well so... yes it does... also mui shaggy solos all of fiction (mui shaggy is canon to shaggy warner bros confirmed it)
Do How Strong is Felix the Cat?
Amazing video and scaling! But I have one disney character who can beat Mickey Mouse. 8:59 The illuminati dorito chip here, Bill Cipher, actually has writer powers, crossover abilities, and fiction bending powers aswell. He could beat him.
I don’t know a lot about Bill Cipher’s scaling? But unless you scale him off his real world ARG game.
Then as far as I know, he’s just a regular reality warper with mild 4th wall awareness.
So he can control almost all things in fiction, but when Mickey leaves fiction- to write his powers away? Then Bill would likely be helpless to do anything- besides watching Mickey do it.
This is also sort of supported by Bill being tricked, and dying in gravity falls. Where as if he was beyond fiction- he would’ve made the writers room do something else. At least? As far as I know.
Bill might’ve gotten some more high tier scaling in recent years.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Bill Cipher is actually canonically writing "The Book Of Bill" currently. So he is out of fiction already.
@Rogongodldk Is the Book of Bill meant to be set in the real world? Or Gravity Falls continuity.
And if it’s set in the Fictional continuity, Bill influencing the writer of the book, doesn’t necessarily mean he’s fully escaped fiction.
As much as it means he’s got fourth wall awareness, and some level of writer influencing ability.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY I dunno. But it's going to have more stuff about Bill, and he's the one writing a real book. As far as the real world canon goes, I'm pretty sure it's his statue being brought to the real world, then he gets Alex Hirsch(his writer) to shake his hand, so he possesses him, makes the reddit AMA, and then writes the book. So atm he would be possessing the writer. Meaning his soul is in the real world.
Are you mickey mouse because your the strongest or you are the strongest because your Mickey mouse
Mikey ain’t soloing anything plenty of characters would neg him
Neg money and fame. And the public domain that can make any history canon. Try it.
@@Gu3Ma4 Public Domain Mickey isn't the licensed by Disney Mickey we're talking about
@@Running9750 Public Domain make the character even more famous. And Disney can claim everything they want because of newer versions of Mickey Mouse.
@@Gu3Ma4Image Comics Spawn solos Mickey with ease
@@noahalcantar2431 You don't get the ideia. Mickey Mouse has all Marvel powers.
You power scaling bunny bugs and spongebob and popeye😊.
3:34 😂
Bro forgot Goku is stronger than Arale who literally has toon force 💀💀😭
Goku lost to Arale, and Arale is weaker than Mickey (generally speaking).
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Goku did not lose to Arale. When did that ever happen? She was able to match him in blue. And this was before the TOP which means he surpassed her
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Also please tell me you’ve seen SSJRyu1 video on the Arale scale. He shows all feats that arale has done and uhh yeah she’s one shotting mickey
Goku in blue was keeping up with regular Arale, before she activated "100 Times Power Mode" and almost completely smoked him. The only character who is definitively above Arale in DBS? Is Beerus, and Beerus (by the Manga standards, and more debatably? The Anime) Is probably stronger than Goku.
As for Mickey Vs Arale? Mickey is immortal, and immune to any sort of damage that exists within fiction (off of scaling to Buggs Bunny) and he also has a brush that can dissolve Arale into ink? So I didn't really see a strong Win Con for her. Since her best feats are basically time traveling, and editing the manga panels. Which? Isn't as impressive, as being unaffected by the artist trying to erase you.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Arale literally got erased from the narrative and still came back 💀 also no arale wasn’t going to “Smoke Goku” literally zero evidence for that. Also did you forget the statement for the TOP that stated UI omen Goku surpassed Beerus? And that wasn’t even MUI yet lmao. Also yes I can link the statement
4:49 they got out
I don't think that goofy like the other characters that are basically toons can brake his neck or something else,they just did this to put some drama because kingdom hearts! So in other words to all those characters can be applied the laws of physics called the toon force.We saw this with popeye beating up saitama in the death battle as well,no matter what saitama did or tried to do to the sailor failed since a classic toon character cannot possibly die or injured so much like goofy here! Also mickey is the king to the real life since he has disney as a corporation god behind he's back,even though he is in the public domain! I don't think disney will let so easily mickey be the play thing of the world without copyright issues! 😅 Also the deep since it is something that was existed to the real world a capable cartoon character will not leave it close to it,plus the important rule of a cartoon can be made again out of nothing as we witnessed it over the years in the toons we watched!
Alright, you've convinced me, but please stop using AI art
I hate people bringing Mickey Mouse into VS battle debates now
Why? If characters like SpongeBob and Bugs Bunny can be in versus debates so can Mickey Mouse.
@@TheMainOne2.0It's just I'm bothered by Mickey Mouse getting brought up in Vs Battle debates with people making him win in every fight. I want to see him lose and die
@@noahalcantar2431In that case you’d hate any character with toon force
@@thechosenone7400Except for characters like Mario, Sonic, and Luffy since they're from Japan
@@thechosenone7400Like seriously Eastern Japan toonforce>Western American toonforce
People who were waiting for the TOTTFIY segment when it goes crazy to hit in a section of the scene that made total sense only for everything I said to not happen must comment on this comment.
yeah basically 1:16
You got so many details wrong it's not even funny
Anything specific?
@TUCKALMIGHTY his paint brush being mickeys strongest weapon do to it being useful against hand drown characters and it also of he loses it he can't use hammer space to pull out again do to it being one of a kinda the if anything the keyblade would be his best weapon do to it having the ability to come back to mickey if he loses it and it's more wide range of abilities
The Key-blade is useful, and has a lot of versatility. But Mickey's paintbrush can canonically erase Toons, who are so strong- that even writer's can't erase them. Based on WFRR, this would include characters like Buggs Bunny, Woody Wood Pecker, and other cameos-- who all have their own set of writer surpassing feats.
And while Mickey can lose his brush? Due to his serious, non-toonforce abilities (such as time manipulation, or teleportation). There shouldn't be any reason, why he can't consistently protect his brush long enough- to melt any fictional character.
@@TUCKALMIGHTYThe problem is Thinner wouldn't work on SpongeBob or Bugs to very obvious reasons. Toons in those Universes aren't the same as the ones in Mickey Mouse. As they have long moved past the Roger Rabbit era of Ink and Paint.
Hell SpongeBob is canonically a literal sponge, despite him being drawn. If anything he'd just soak up the Thinner. Bugs on the other hand is canonically digitally animated, and has come back from EE before like in Space Jam 2 where Al erased Bugs completely from the server verse, which includes all his information and files. And came back afterwards.
And if this wasn't enough, Bugs's luck is canonically so stupid that literal bullets coming toward him turn into butterflies. Who's to say the Thinner wouldn't back fire on Mickey or just turn into something else like Milk or Water?
Bugs also has multiple ways of getting rid of the brush. He can make as many clones as he can to evade the paint and thinner, Bugs has also resisted mind control and influence on several occasions so the Paint controlling Bugs or his clones likely wouldn't work, he can snatch it away off screen, or just destroy it with the various explosives he has. The Brush is powerful but it's not indestructible, and it does have a finite amount of Paint and Thinner.
@@Running9750 it doesnt matter how strong or how durable they are they will still get erased... btw mickey is the only recorded toon in history to have survived thinner
Mickey doesn't particularly use the toonforce nearly as much as other toons, I think you're being silly. The most powerful characters are more likely to be Heckle and Jeckle, the magpies from the Terrytoons cartoons. Where most characters need to follow some sort of logic, and by "logic" I mean "the rule of funny;" these two aren't even bound by that. They've fully realized that they are cartoon characters, and as such can do anything; and to prove it, one of them turns into a mouse. No gag, no puff of smoke, no spinning around, he's just a mouse now, and when he's bored of that, he turns back. I haven't seen _all_ their cartoons, but every one I have seen is like this. They have a short maid and butler dialogue for the audience about how they can do anything, and then they do.
yes ima have to rewrite this for u chat.... he is the only toon in recorded history to survive the dip aka thinner cuz in who framed roger rabbit it states that no matter how strong or durable you are… you will be erased and wont be coming back but mickey somehow only got hurt by it and survived thinner and was able to control thinner. he can also create new timelines. he is a canon jedi master.. he can control the cosmos aka stars and comets, he is the 2nd strongest keyblade wielder… and mickey doesnt have a canon and since he is public domain… everything the media gives him he has… and its confirmed that mickey mouse in his mirrorverse form is boundless alone where he is a dreamer and he uses stellar magic to kill his foes… also mickey with the brush is outerversal alone because he is able to create, destroy universes, timelines, and make new toons and erase any toon he wants no matter how strong they are... also the games and comics are connected to cartoon mickey because in the epic mickey intro it states that he got famous and it shows a bunch of famous cartoons.. that means his base form actually has the brush. and king mickey is cartoon mickey cuz in kh2 we travel back in time to the 1920's era and mickey shakes soras hand and waves and leaves... canonically revealing kh is also connected to cartoon mickey
@@Briskvr Dip and thinner are two different things. Dip is a concoction of primarily acetone, benzene, and turpentine; and that's just the stuff that is publicly known. I'm sure Judge Doom also added some illegal deus ex-machina chemical to the mix, but for the sake of argument, let's say he hasn't. In fact, let's just focus on turpentine versus paint thinner, of those two, turpentine is far stronger, and is the premium product. The idea that Mickey surviving thinner means he could survive Dip, is about as silly as saying somebody survived walking on hot coals, so they could survive walking on lava.
Anyhow, the rest of your rant is ignoring all the MacGuffins at play. Yen Sid's hat controls the stars and comets, the brush, and his keyblade are the ones doing the magic stuff. Look, I'm not saying he isn't _formidable,_ just that he isn't quite as omnipotent as you seem to think he is.
@@Wendy_O._Koopa mickey is outerversal with the brush alone also in epic mickey it says that thinner can erase toons so... i have been doing research on mickey for 10 years... mickey escaped being a canon being... also yen sids hat doesnt control the brush cuz 1. how would epic mickey even come to be... 2. how would mickey even be able to summon his keyblade and 3. yen sid later on gave mickey all those things..
@@Briskvr You don't quite grasp the concept of _internal_ powers versus _using_ powerful items... do you?
@@Wendy_O._Koopa bro... ive been studying mickey for 10 years... the fact that mickey survived thinner is really impressive
I think bugs Bunny is going to win
Goku meatriding in the comments is insane (to be honest, generally)
I do think Mickey beats Super Goku. But he doesn't win against CC/Xeno Goku. He scales to a much bigger set of cosmos and has resisted various amounts of hax similar to the Brush. Hakai being one of them as it isn't just regular EE but will wipe you out of reality entirely.
@@Running9750 my guy Mickey rewrites the plot
Nah Mickey Mouse SOLOs
How?
TOONFORCE
No Mickey Mouse is not solo fiction he can't beat Goku
You think Mickey Mouse beating Goku ha don't make me laugh Goku destroys Mickey Mouse bro why are you doing this video just to be a troll Superman would be Mickey Mouse probably I guess you can say that stupid
Bro din't even watch the whole video
He in denial
yes ima have to rewrite this for u chat.... he is the only toon in recorded history to survive the dip aka thinner cuz in who framed roger rabbit it states that no matter how strong or durable you are… you will be erased and wont be coming back but mickey somehow only got hurt by it and survived thinner and was able to control thinner. he can also create new timelines. he is a canon jedi master.. he can control the cosmos aka stars and comets, he is the 2nd strongest keyblade wielder… and mickey doesnt have a canon and since he is public domain… everything the media gives him he has… and its confirmed that mickey mouse in his mirrorverse form is boundless alone where he is a dreamer and he uses stellar magic to kill his foes… also mickey with the brush is outerversal alone because he is able to create, destroy universes, timelines, and make new toons and erase any toon he wants no matter how strong they are... also the games and comics are connected to cartoon mickey because in the epic mickey intro it states that he got famous and it shows a bunch of famous cartoons.. that means his base form actually has the brush. and king mickey is cartoon mickey cuz in kh2 we travel back in time to the 1920's era and mickey shakes soras hand and waves and leaves... canonically revealing kh is also connected to cartoon mickey