I LOVE IT, nostalgic, hopeful, complex yet it simply makes me feel. To me it feels a bit like a stephen schwartz and danny elfman made a colab for a Tim Burton's directed Disney movie. Congrats Dan, beautiful piece and effective exercise! Cheers
Dan, this is beautiful and sweet. I could see it with clips of Audrey Hepburn throughout her life. I'm so glad, you pushed this through back into the world and sharing it with all of us 🙏🏼
I cannot wait to hear what you do with the last sketch at the end of the video!! I believe that will be an awesome piece! Go ahead and step all the way out the box! 🎉🙌🏾🙌🏾
@@DanKeenMusicalso after seeing this it prompted me to go to my voice memos on my phone and there’s a lot that I could compose into something! Let’s not even mention the logic sketches! 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Beautiful composition, and thanks for the honesty in this vid. Good to see that you pressed in and through the temptation to start something new, something that I'm sure we all struggle with! Would you consider showing us how you go about un-muddying orchestral arrangements (maybe things to watch out for when building larger sections)? Building on what you mentioned around harmonies. Thanks as always.
Thanks Paul! I really contemplated just HOW deep to go with this one. It’s tricky to balance “high-level inspirational” vs “actionable advice”. About 12 minutes of this edit is currently in an offcuts folder 😅 I’ll definitely return to this. I’ve got a deep-dive composition vid in the works at the moment which will be out in a couple of weeks
Some quite useful tips here! Thank you for sharing these with us Dan 🙂 Also, I really enjoy the editing of your latest videos. Fantastic work as always
It's interesting that, from 3:10-3:19, right after you said things can sound weaker with a lot of parallel movement, there was a sequence of parallel fourths, but in this case it was very tastefully crafted and beautifully harmonized! Keep up the good work!
Thanks! Parallel fourths feel different to me. Maybe it’s because they have different weightings within harmony? Would love any thoughts you have on this
@@DanKeenMusic To be fair you only mentioned octaves and fifths, and not fourths. However I thought music theory lessons advise against parallel fourths as well. Fourths are inversions of fifths, so that seems logical. A quick online search shows that parallel fourths are allowed unless formed with the bass. Parallel fourths sound nice when used in cascade, such as in your improvisation or in Mompou's Jeunes Filles Au Jardin. Happy New Year!
Surprise, just before looking this video, I just record short melodies of Labs frozen strings and Originals cymbalum ( I love this sound, it's very inspiring ) on my IPhone. I was thinking to layer these moments. I like much your piece of music. Thank you to show the path ...
Oh dear.. you have the perfectionist OCD disease I had. 😶🌫️ (and am still just figuring out now) In my case it’s very psychological. I have to kind of trick myself that if doesn’t matter as much. I have to be ok trying lots of ideas to try and make me think of it in a different way. I might put the track on several different trailers to test it, or you could use any appropriate imagery. For some reason what is confusing on one trailer I see it differently on another. Suddenly I can tell if something works or not, or if I need to add some part or double a sections length or something. Or i can suddenly see if something seems too busy, or sparse, or doesn’t build well enough. If it seems like it sort of worked on one trailer and I change it for another most of the time the changes makes it work on the original one. I’m working on a track right now that amazingly end up naturally hitting meaningful hit points entirely naturally for trailers I didn’t even try to write it too. Like I didn’t even care to make the tempo perfect when I started it just ended up working out that way I also try turning things off and hearing parts I never intended to hear isolated from other parts. Or I try to sketch out the whole thing without thinking too much with some kind of base down. Not the instrument bass, I mean anything! And have that base in some kind of sensible arrangement. ANYTHING, so long as it technically works. I tell myself I assume and expect to change it at any point, and usually do, as I get going. Broad brush strokes as much as possible. Just get stuff down as fast as possible, most of it, while thinking as little as possible, and assuming it will slowly crystalise and reveal the parts you want to keep as you go on. If you’re more interested in the notes 🎶 maybe do a little sketch of the parts you really like to get the idea down but just for your own reference. Then stop! You can’t focus on the tiny milliseconds of music for so long that you end up hating it, and not wanting to change, because you spent so long on it. I used to agonize on like 8 bars and build it up and then was thoroughly pissed off with it and had no objectivity anymore. I then couldn’t come up with any ideas on how to turn it into a track because I feel like I’d gotten so used to hearing it as this fully produced 8 bars. But it’s even worse because then when you try to add more, the new sections sound unproduced and unfinished. So it’s very unsatisfying and hard to tell if it really works until that’s all fully built up as well. Because of that it’s very hard to know what’s working and solidify the ideas. The best way is to be able to try and build up the whole thing as you go, so you’re not doing to equivalent of painting something and doing one single element, then trying to do the next section, then the next section. You never paint one section too fully so you still have some idea of what works in the rest of it, and you still have time to change it. If you don’t normally write to picture, I strongly suggest you find some video/a of something you do like that would fit the music you’re trying to do. I find it makes SO much difference. Anyway blah blah blah
Hey Dan, I hope you’re doing well. Great video as always. I would LOVE to see a video of you orchestrating this piece in Dorico. That would be amazing… Ps. I know you have done that kind of video before and I’ve watched it a hundred times but another video in that style would be awesome!
Hey Dan, great video! Would love to see your process of getting this into Dorico. I feel the same about composing in logic; much for focused on the sonic quality. I've found this often does not translate well to notation software. I'm always hopeful that Logic Pro will revamp their score editor!
Welcome to my World Dan. Not one thing I do gets past 60 seconds these days before the imposter syndrome kicks in. Instead I'll fire up the old youtube and watch another Dan Keen vid instead of completing the piece. I guess it's all your fault when it comes down to it.😩
Ugh.....fine I'll do it too then. Great idea, and great video 🤠
Howdy doody buckaroony 🤠
I LOVE IT, nostalgic, hopeful, complex yet it simply makes me feel. To me it feels a bit like a stephen schwartz and danny elfman made a colab for a Tim Burton's directed Disney movie. Congrats Dan, beautiful piece and effective exercise! Cheers
Stephen Schwartz + Danny Elfman - I mean that's music to my ears!
sounds beautiful! committing to our first musical impulses can give us really good results :)
It's not necessarily that the FIRST idea is the best idea, but definitely proves that we throw a lot of great ideas away
As always, thanks for sharing Dan - love your content for many years now, wish you the best
You are an incredible and talented young man. Couldn't do this if my life depended on it. Just loved it.
Beautiful 👏🏻
Dan, this is beautiful and sweet. I could see it with clips of Audrey Hepburn
throughout her life. I'm so glad, you pushed this through back into the world and sharing it with all of us 🙏🏼
Gorgeous piece, Dan - nice to see some of your process. Sometimes I think we just gotta break through and put the time in to get the results.
Super! Well worth finishing it. Great to see you back on UA-cam
It would be interesting to see how you import the midi in Dorico and turn it into an written orchestration. Your orchestrations are amazing!
I cannot wait to hear what you do with the last sketch at the end of the video!! I believe that will be an awesome piece! Go ahead and step all the way out the box! 🎉🙌🏾🙌🏾
Already in motion! Give me a few weeks :)
@@DanKeenMusicalso after seeing this it prompted me to go to my voice memos on my phone and there’s a lot that I could compose into something! Let’s not even mention the logic sketches! 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Beautiful Dan!
Thanks Stefano! Collab?!
Sure!!!@@DanKeenMusic
Oh the critics inside us, they are vicious creatures. Trust yourself :) Great contect Dan, btw - keep them coming.
Beautiful composition, and thanks for the honesty in this vid. Good to see that you pressed in and through the temptation to start something new, something that I'm sure we all struggle with! Would you consider showing us how you go about un-muddying orchestral arrangements (maybe things to watch out for when building larger sections)? Building on what you mentioned around harmonies. Thanks as always.
Thanks Paul! I really contemplated just HOW deep to go with this one. It’s tricky to balance “high-level inspirational” vs “actionable advice”. About 12 minutes of this edit is currently in an offcuts folder 😅 I’ll definitely return to this. I’ve got a deep-dive composition vid in the works at the moment which will be out in a couple of weeks
Really love that piece Dan
So beautiful! The Apassionata Strings are such a great compliment to the piece too.
I do love them!
Thanks Dan!
Please share the full 40 mins version! ❤
Some quite useful tips here! Thank you for sharing these with us Dan 🙂
Also, I really enjoy the editing of your latest videos. Fantastic work as always
Thanks Alex! Not quite up to your standards yet but I'm trying
Thanks Alex! Not quite up to your standards yet but I'm trying
Oddly sounds like Christmas to me
finding a lot of inspiration from your channel for mine. love your style mate. keep it up 👍
More of it!🙏
I think that would be Neice to hear your finished product of the last peice🙏
Thanks Dan, music is beautiful as usual. Looks like you have a new camera/lens,.. everything looks so sharp and smooth. the tshirts looks nice too !
Thanks! Loving my new Panasonic S5 II + Sigma 24mm f1.4 lens
Gorgeous.
I'd love to see it written down with Dorico 🤩
It's interesting that, from 3:10-3:19, right after you said things can sound weaker with a lot of parallel movement, there was a sequence of parallel fourths, but in this case it was very tastefully crafted and beautifully harmonized! Keep up the good work!
Thanks! Parallel fourths feel different to me. Maybe it’s because they have different weightings within harmony? Would love any thoughts you have on this
@@DanKeenMusic To be fair you only mentioned octaves and fifths, and not fourths. However I thought music theory lessons advise against parallel fourths as well. Fourths are inversions of fifths, so that seems logical. A quick online search shows that parallel fourths are allowed unless formed with the bass. Parallel fourths sound nice when used in cascade, such as in your improvisation or in Mompou's Jeunes Filles Au Jardin. Happy New Year!
just Magic
Gorgeous peice and very inspiring video too, Dan.
Hope you're doing well 😊
Wow, such an awesome piece Dan, I really love it!
Could you please please provide us with notes or chords for it?
Thank you
Surprise, just before looking this video, I just record short melodies of Labs frozen strings and Originals cymbalum ( I love this sound, it's very inspiring ) on my IPhone. I was thinking to layer these moments. I like much your piece of music. Thank you to show the path ...
Oh dear.. you have the perfectionist OCD disease I had. 😶🌫️ (and am still just figuring out now)
In my case it’s very psychological. I have to kind of trick myself that if doesn’t matter as much. I have to be ok trying lots of ideas to try and make me think of it in a different way. I might put the track on several different trailers to test it, or you could use any appropriate imagery.
For some reason what is confusing on one trailer I see it differently on another. Suddenly I can tell if something works or not, or if I need to add some part or double a sections length or something. Or i can suddenly see if something seems too busy, or sparse, or doesn’t build well enough. If it seems like it sort of worked on one trailer and I change it for another most of the time the changes makes it work on the original one. I’m working on a track right now that amazingly end up naturally hitting meaningful hit points entirely naturally for trailers I didn’t even try to write it too. Like I didn’t even care to make the tempo perfect when I started it just ended up working out that way
I also try turning things off and hearing parts I never intended to hear isolated from other parts. Or I try to sketch out the whole thing without thinking too much with some kind of base down. Not the instrument bass, I mean anything! And have that base in some kind of sensible arrangement. ANYTHING, so long as it technically works. I tell myself I assume and expect to change it at any point, and usually do, as I get going. Broad brush strokes as much as possible.
Just get stuff down as fast as possible, most of it, while thinking as little as possible, and assuming it will slowly crystalise and reveal the parts you want to keep as you go on.
If you’re more interested in the notes 🎶 maybe do a little sketch of the parts you really like to get the idea down but just for your own reference. Then stop! You can’t focus on the tiny milliseconds of music for so long that you end up hating it, and not wanting to change, because you spent so long on it. I used to agonize on like 8 bars and build it up and then was thoroughly pissed off with it and had no objectivity anymore. I then couldn’t come up with any ideas on how to turn it into a track because I feel like I’d gotten so used to hearing it as this fully produced 8 bars. But it’s even worse because then when you try to add more, the new sections sound unproduced and unfinished. So it’s very unsatisfying and hard to tell if it really works until that’s all fully built up as well. Because of that it’s very hard to know what’s working and solidify the ideas.
The best way is to be able to try and build up the whole thing as you go, so you’re not doing to equivalent of painting something and doing one single element, then trying to do the next section, then the next section. You never paint one section too fully so you still have some idea of what works in the rest of it, and you still have time to change it.
If you don’t normally write to picture, I strongly suggest you find some video/a of something you do like that would fit the music you’re trying to do. I find it makes SO much difference.
Anyway blah blah blah
Apassionata is my 1st Strings 🥰
It happens to every musician. 😀 (Throwing music away)... well, it happens to me anyway. 🙂. By the way, nice theme. Congrats.
Hey Dan, I hope you’re doing well. Great video as always. I would LOVE to see a video of you orchestrating this piece in Dorico. That would be amazing…
Ps. I know you have done that kind of video before and I’ve watched it a hundred times but another video in that style would be awesome!
I’ll get on this!
❤
Hey Dan, great video! Would love to see your process of getting this into Dorico. I feel the same about composing in logic; much for focused on the sonic quality. I've found this often does not translate well to notation software. I'm always hopeful that Logic Pro will revamp their score editor!
If parallel octaves and fifths are weaker then why do we call power chords power chords? Genuinely asking
Sounds kind of like Christmas at Hogwarts!
Great timing, Dan! I was having the same problem just now :)
Welcome to my World Dan.
Not one thing I do gets past 60 seconds these days before the imposter syndrome kicks in. Instead I'll fire up the old youtube and watch another Dan Keen vid instead of completing the piece. I guess it's all your fault when it comes down to it.😩
I can only apologise 😅🙏
Cool ideas! But don’t discount those voice memos. Recency bias has hampered my writing in the past by discarding old nuggets
Absolutely! My iPhone is full of voice memos! Need to get them out in an album or EP...