@@nyrubin im still usimg the original osmo pocket. it has the best low light and color. no one knows why. dji purposefully made the new ones worse... best audio and cheapest
As an owner of the Action 1' which I hardly use, mainly because of it's lack of horizon balance' and poor stabilizing capabilities, as well as bad low light performance, and the fact that my phone camera actually captures better videos' I was contemplating for quite some time whether to upgrade to the Action 3' but with this Action 4, I'm pretty sure I'll upgrade. It checks all the boxes that I was looking for in an upgrade
If you have an iphone 14 - use your phone, it is better in every way. I think there was a test between that and gopro or action4 and the phone was better in almost every way. The only issue with the the phone is with sticking it to your bike/ body.
Was just looking into the Action 3 but was unable to find it. Got the notification yesterday Action 4 was available for order and have it in hand today already.
good review the 436 thumb up is mine - one thing nobody makes is a test about quality differences between wide mode and portrait mode and I mean making the lens less wide I know it is possible and I know it is a digital close up but it would be interesting to check how much of the quality remain in a video.
I had been watching a lot of your videos in anticipation of a trip I’m taking to Hawaii in a few weeks and was trying to decide which camera would be the best for me. I ended up ordering the Insta360 X3 because I thought the footage looked unique and with me being a complete novice, I like that it will capture a wide field that I can hopefully find decent footage from. And Costco having a killer deal on an adventure bundle that included a selfie stick, lens cover, microSD card and spare battery for less than the price of just the camera anywhere else made it a pretty painless decision. But your lowlight video walking through the woods convinced me to get the Action 4 as well. My wife and I will have fun seeing what kind of shots we can get with these.
@@RobHK I can’t wait to see your videos for that trip. I’m just a casual user but I’m learning a lot from your content. My X3 arrives today so I’m going to have to get busy putting it through the paces to learn how it works before my trip at the end of the month. I’m thinking maybe the Action will be a better option for under water activities like snorkeling unless I get the dive case for the X3 to help with stitching but we’re visiting Kauai and will be doing an adventure raft tour of the Napali coast and doing some hiking so I’m really looking forward to utilizing the X3 for that. We’ll probably use both cameras for everything though just to see what kind of footage we can get. I’ll have to go back and watch your previous Hawaii video to get some ideas of what to expect.
The new Action 4 is very impressive. I’ve never owned a DJI Action camera, but do have the Pocket 2. I just saw the leak the new Hero 12 will feature a one inch sensor. Great review, and thanks for sharing.
How does this camera stack up against the GoPro hero 9 & 10 models? I have lost loads of shots from the two GoPro’s I own. During a 600 mile cycle trip I took last year, some Images were unreadable, both cameras locked up regularly and the hero 9 continued to film after of stop button was pressed creating huge files to sift through.
@robHK great video. I have been looking to pick up an action cam to film my padel and tennis games as well as film myself on the efoil. I am deciding between the insta360 go 3 and the new DJI action 4. Your recommendation on which one to pick would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
Great video very nicely presented. I want some good shots of city night lights and was going to save for a second-hand black magic 6k pro, the quality looks great on your video, I would like an opinion from someone about whether it would be worth waiting to get the black magic ? p.s. I need to get some good stills and know the blackmagic has better resolution and higher pixels than the action 4 for stills.
@@RobHK was doing some search for Telesin nd filter for Osmo action 3, their mechanism for installing nd filters is just by sliding on to the stock filter frame, so if the filter diameter for the osmo action 3 and 4 are same, than this Filter might work, it's a theory for now.
Thank you! Regarding the sound, wind noise in particular, do you think the action 4 can be improved by adding some foam at the mics holles? Because from what I've seen on other videos, with bikes and speed, the action 4 captures horrible wind noise compared to action 3. Fact mentioned repeatedly in the comments of those videos as well. I'll be using it in high speed applications and this is the single puzzle I have regarding which one to choose.
Audi is horrible in these cases, even with a windslayer. You would need an external mic for good decent audio. You could use your phone too, just record normal video, out it in your backpack and pull that audio from the record and match with the clip from the Action 4 👍
How does it compare to iPhone 14 pro? GoPro are basically out of my considerations, had 3 different generations failed me on random freeze, shut down, and terrible battery life while skiing, I just lost faith on GoPro, where the Action 1, Insta360 one r and X3 never failed me. That low light quality and white balance sensor are attractive since I will be doing night skiing, but that alone can’t justify the purchase. After all it requires extra step to export the footage. I’m using iPhone with Insta360 flow for the most time to filming my family(no need export), and Insta360 X3 as action cam(extra angle of view). So far that combo works great for what I need, but if the action 4 footage is a lot better than iPhone, I may be willing to get one after the new iPhone release this year😂
Could you please advise if DJI Osmo Action 3 ND filters are compatible with Action 4? Thanks for the detailed review. It was very helpful💯 Also, what mount do you use on your motorcycle? I'm planning to use it for my weekend rides😎🏍
@@RobHK Ah...🤦🏻♂️ That's bad... Here in Bangalore, India we don't have accessories for the new model yet🤷🏻♂️ They're still selling accessories that are compatible with Action 3 Guess I must wait for those accessories to be available in our local market Thanks for your suggestions😇
I'm seriously looking at this camera, I have the Pocket 2 but for some reason (and I have tried) I cannot for the life of get on with it. I just can't seem to manage the form factor when recording. I had a really cheap action camera when I first bought one in the normal form factor and got on with that 10x better than I do the Pocket 2. Not a fan of the GoPro just because you need the media cage for an external mic.
Looks like great product. Cannot wait untill Action 5 came out to buy that at a bargain price. Beta testers - you can start throwing your money at DJI, GO!
Absolutely no upgrade from the OA3, does not tick any important boxes over the OA3 for me. In fact the only reason upgrading would have been if the issue with the stabilization would have been fixed. But the OA4 image still tilts if you mount it on/in a car and drive around bends. The stabilization takes only the inertia/position sensor into account and does not react to lateral forces in a correct way. Unusable in/on a car. Gopro and even the old Sony FDR-3000X do better.
I'm a very upset owner of an Action 3 that I purchased 5 weeks ago. DJI is one of those companies that will neither announce their upcoming product release nor significantly discount the previous model. It used to be (when companies at least pretended to care about customer loyalty), you got a choice before a major upgrade: get a bargain with the old model or wait for the new one. Now, they just suddenly drop a new model after pushing sales of the old model during the spring and summer, catching poor fools like me unaware. A week earlier I could still have returned the Action 3. Anyway, In the interim I discovered all the flaws of this camera that the Action 4 now (mostly) addresses. And the release of the Action 4 means that there very probably won't be a firmware update for the Action 3 getting us, at least in software, up to date. Because I agree with you that the manual sharpening and noise adjustments, along with the standardized D-Log and gyro data saved to the video file, are what the Action 3 needed to produce even adequate video quality. The Action 3 is, in retrospect, a prototype for the Action 4. Good design, lousy video. Until a couple of days ago, I was hoping these feature requests we've been clamoring for would be implemented; now I know we've been abandoned. Please don't keep referring to it as, would you upgrade. There is no upgrade path. It's, would you pay another $500 for the camera they should have provided you in the first place. I contacted DJI and there is no upgrade/trade-in path for recent Action 3 owners. I am never buying anything from this company again. No one should, unless you have money to burn.
gopro hero 11 was released last year and honestly gopro hero 11 is much better video quality and stabilization. we have to wait september 15 for a real comparison with gopro 12 vs osmo action 4.
So much hype about this new camera...in comparison with gp11 only win on the magnetic attachment, this camera is out date, stabilization? worst than gp11, overall image quality? gp11 win. price in Europe ? is a scandal, more expensive than gp11.
Looks nice but like some others, I want to wait till next month and see what the GoPro is going to bring. The leaks for the Hero 12 look amazing, however unbelievable.
I N T E R E S T I N G... in your comparisons between OA3 vs OA4, I actually preferred the colors on the OA3. Blacks are black and it has that contrast-y look that I really like.
I wonder if that is due to the color science straight out of the camera or is it a dlog vs dcine type of thing because I really do find the colors to be better on the OA3.
That “black” and extra contrast is actually due to a lower dynamic range and lost information. You can easily adjust this with the DJI 4 due to the widened range where as it would be impossible in the previous model. It’s a better more flexible camera, trust me. Any one that has done color grading will recognize this otherwise subtle difference.
@@robinhilliermodernagents7432 really? Even in the daylight? So if I get OA4 footage and crush the shadows, I'll get the same look? Me likey. 😅👍 I'm tryna upgrade from my osmo action OG but I haven't been convinced by the OA2, 3, Go Pro 8,9,10... the 11 looks pretty dang good. I MIGHT'VE pounced but it's kinda late in the game now as the OA4 is out and the GPH12 is swinging for it's neck in a month. Really, i'm waiting for when the GP2 processor hits the ceiling (like they did with the buggy GPH9) and then I pounce on the year older but stable GP2 processor one. If the GPH12 is the ceiling and all the bugs fly out, then my debate would be GPH11 vs OA4. So this is still a consideration and I like the look with the crushed shadows.
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As an Action 3 owner, I was skeptical about buying this until I saw that lowlight shot. That and the improved audio make this a buy for me.
I’m still using the action 2 can’t beat the size flexibility
@@nyrubinpleased to hear that. Just bought the A2 👍
@@dayslikethis9788 the front screen one is the better one
@@nyrubin im still usimg the original osmo pocket. it has the best low light and color. no one knows why. dji purposefully made the new ones worse... best audio and cheapest
@@amandaburleson2035 I also have the original action, can’t compare the image Quality though the action 2 looks way better
As an owner of the Action 1' which I hardly use, mainly because of it's lack of horizon balance' and poor stabilizing capabilities, as well as bad low light performance, and the fact that my phone camera actually captures better videos' I was contemplating for quite some time whether to upgrade to the Action 3' but with this Action 4, I'm pretty sure I'll upgrade. It checks all the boxes that I was looking for in an upgrade
If you have an iphone 14 - use your phone, it is better in every way. I think there was a test between that and gopro or action4 and the phone was better in almost every way. The only issue with the the phone is with sticking it to your bike/ body.
Great vid. What are your other go to settings on the bike. Thanks so much
Was just looking into the Action 3 but was unable to find it. Got the notification yesterday Action 4 was available for order and have it in hand today already.
Will it record while being recharged?
good review the 436 thumb up is mine - one thing nobody makes is a test about quality differences between wide mode and portrait mode and I mean making the lens less wide I know it is possible and I know it is a digital close up but it would be interesting to check how much of the quality remain in a video.
I had been watching a lot of your videos in anticipation of a trip I’m taking to Hawaii in a few weeks and was trying to decide which camera would be the best for me. I ended up ordering the Insta360 X3 because I thought the footage looked unique and with me being a complete novice, I like that it will capture a wide field that I can hopefully find decent footage from. And Costco having a killer deal on an adventure bundle that included a selfie stick, lens cover, microSD card and spare battery for less than the price of just the camera anywhere else made it a pretty painless decision.
But your lowlight video walking through the woods convinced me to get the Action 4 as well. My wife and I will have fun seeing what kind of shots we can get with these.
Nice!! Im also bringing the Action 4 and X3 to Hawaii in some weeks🤓🤙
@@RobHK I can’t wait to see your videos for that trip. I’m just a casual user but I’m learning a lot from your content. My X3 arrives today so I’m going to have to get busy putting it through the paces to learn how it works before my trip at the end of the month. I’m thinking maybe the Action will be a better option for under water activities like snorkeling unless I get the dive case for the X3 to help with stitching but we’re visiting Kauai and will be doing an adventure raft tour of the Napali coast and doing some hiking so I’m really looking forward to utilizing the X3 for that. We’ll probably use both cameras for everything though just to see what kind of footage we can get. I’ll have to go back and watch your previous Hawaii video to get some ideas of what to expect.
Bring some towels, its gonna be wet😮💨 Sounds like you guys are heading to the rain season 😬
Great review. I think this may just be the one that persuades me to switch from GoPro 👍🏻
The new Action 4 is very impressive. I’ve never owned a DJI Action camera, but do have the Pocket 2. I just saw the leak the new Hero 12 will feature a one inch sensor. Great review, and thanks for sharing.
I have version 2, is the 4 really that different for an upgrade? I don't do night videos, only soccer games on a tripod...
How does this camera stack up against the GoPro hero 9 & 10 models? I have lost loads of shots from the two GoPro’s I own. During a 600 mile cycle trip I took last year, some Images were unreadable, both cameras locked up regularly and the hero 9 continued to film after of stop button was pressed creating huge files to sift through.
@robHK great video. I have been looking to pick up an action cam to film my padel and tennis games as well as film myself on the efoil. I am deciding between the insta360 go 3 and the new DJI action 4. Your recommendation on which one to pick would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
Is there any actioncam that has 10x optical zoom and great low light performance?
Great video very nicely presented. I want some good shots of city night lights and was going to save for a second-hand black magic 6k pro, the quality looks great on your video, I would like an opinion from someone about whether it would be worth waiting to get the black magic ? p.s. I need to get some good stills and know the blackmagic has better resolution and higher pixels than the action 4 for stills.
Hi Rob! Did you made any adjustment on video quality? Or its just straight from the cam? The quality is so great!
Only applied my signature luts👍
Is 1/1.3 inch sensor larger than 1 inch?
No
The Action 4 camera beats the Go Pro 12! Easily
You think so?😊
Hi RobHK, Is there any difference between the battery of action 3 and 4?. can the battery of 3 be used in 4?. thanks for the answer.
Answer is in the video 👍
I have the OA3 and I’m interested to see if a lav mic is usable on the OA4? If not then for me it’s not a worthwhile upgrade for motorcycle use
I just got a motorcycle, and finished up a video on this topic👍 will be up tomorrow😊
Your video is the first that looks good and smooth to me. Lowered sharpening to minimum?
nvm. 2:45
Will buy :D
Only real disadvantage I see is that there's no open gate mode.
Yes 😅 you figured 👍👍
What about the ND filters, are Osmo action 3 Nd filters compatible with 4?
No
@@RobHK was doing some search for Telesin nd filter for Osmo action 3, their mechanism for installing nd filters is just by sliding on to the stock filter frame, so if the filter diameter for the osmo action 3 and 4 are same, than this Filter might work, it's a theory for now.
Great video, seen other action 4 nighttime videos. Most the night time footage I have seen is usable. It's definitely not a night time camera yet.
Thank you! Regarding the sound, wind noise in particular, do you think the action 4 can be improved by adding some foam at the mics holles? Because from what I've seen on other videos, with bikes and speed, the action 4 captures horrible wind noise compared to action 3. Fact mentioned repeatedly in the comments of those videos as well.
I'll be using it in high speed applications and this is the single puzzle I have regarding which one to choose.
Audi is horrible in these cases, even with a windslayer. You would need an external mic for good decent audio. You could use your phone too, just record normal video, out it in your backpack and pull that audio from the record and match with the clip from the Action 4 👍
How does it compare to iPhone 14 pro? GoPro are basically out of my considerations, had 3 different generations failed me on random freeze, shut down, and terrible battery life while skiing, I just lost faith on GoPro, where the Action 1, Insta360 one r and X3 never failed me. That low light quality and white balance sensor are attractive since I will be doing night skiing, but that alone can’t justify the purchase. After all it requires extra step to export the footage. I’m using iPhone with Insta360 flow for the most time to filming my family(no need export), and Insta360 X3 as action cam(extra angle of view). So far that combo works great for what I need, but if the action 4 footage is a lot better than iPhone, I may be willing to get one after the new iPhone release this year😂
Could you please advise if DJI Osmo Action 3 ND filters are compatible with Action 4?
Thanks for the detailed review. It was very helpful💯
Also, what mount do you use on your motorcycle? I'm planning to use it for my weekend rides😎🏍
Im not sure if i have any action 3 nd filters. Ill check tomorrow and let you know 😊
@@RobHK Thanks so much😇🙏🏻
That would be a great help💯
Cheers from Bangalore, India
No they don’t work, the A3 is slightly smaller
@@RobHK Ah...🤦🏻♂️ That's bad... Here in Bangalore, India we don't have accessories for the new model yet🤷🏻♂️
They're still selling accessories that are compatible with Action 3
Guess I must wait for those accessories to be available in our local market
Thanks for your suggestions😇
I'm seriously looking at this camera, I have the Pocket 2 but for some reason (and I have tried) I cannot for the life of get on with it. I just can't seem to manage the form factor when recording. I had a really cheap action camera when I first bought one in the normal form factor and got on with that 10x better than I do the Pocket 2. Not a fan of the GoPro just because you need the media cage for an external mic.
Definitely going to buy the action 4. Now if they could just update the Insta360 one rs 1 inch and I’d be set
Uhhh sigh. Ok I'll buy it.
Processor same with Action 3?
Yes
@@RobHK is it mean all this feature can work on action 3 except 1/3 sensor camera?
I will say Nooo
Its upgradet action 3 and they charge us for fixed isues like outfocus...
Action3 vs Action4 no big change
Auto focus is biggest upgrade. Action 3 was stopped several months ago in my country..
Great video!!👍
Thank you 😊
Imagine GoPro fanboys trolling this and then found out new GoPro only changed small spec and still overheats haha
Looks like great product. Cannot wait untill Action 5 came out to buy that at a bargain price. Beta testers - you can start throwing your money at DJI, GO!
Beta? Well past that mate. Dji is a market leader and often offers a lot of value for the pricing.
At this point the only notable upgrade I'd expect in Action 5 would be cinematic mode with bokeh (blur) effect!
Image quality better than the Action 3. But still not as good as the GoPro 11.
Doesn’t matter as the go pro overheats, glitches, shuts down and you end up losing the video…
@@MF_OXF my gopro shut down at least 20 times in the last month or so due to battery loss and I have NEVER lost a video. What GoPro are you using?
Absolutely no upgrade from the OA3, does not tick any important boxes over the OA3 for me. In fact the only reason upgrading would have been if the issue with the stabilization would have been fixed. But the OA4 image still tilts if you mount it on/in a car and drive around bends. The stabilization takes only the inertia/position sensor into account and does not react to lateral forces in a correct way. Unusable in/on a car. Gopro and even the old Sony FDR-3000X do better.
Low light performance and auto focus are arguably the most important “boxes”. Also that bending can be corrected in seconds with software post edit.
I'm an action 1 user.
Honestly, at same price with GoPro 11, action 4 cant compete with GoPro 11.
GoPro 11 has better value for money.
I'm a very upset owner of an Action 3 that I purchased 5 weeks ago. DJI is one of those companies that will neither announce their upcoming product release nor significantly discount the previous model. It used to be (when companies at least pretended to care about customer loyalty), you got a choice before a major upgrade: get a bargain with the old model or wait for the new one. Now, they just suddenly drop a new model after pushing sales of the old model during the spring and summer, catching poor fools like me unaware. A week earlier I could still have returned the Action 3. Anyway, In the interim I discovered all the flaws of this camera that the Action 4 now (mostly) addresses. And the release of the Action 4 means that there very probably won't be a firmware update for the Action 3 getting us, at least in software, up to date. Because I agree with you that the manual sharpening and noise adjustments, along with the standardized D-Log and gyro data saved to the video file, are what the Action 3 needed to produce even adequate video quality. The Action 3 is, in retrospect, a prototype for the Action 4. Good design, lousy video. Until a couple of days ago, I was hoping these feature requests we've been clamoring for would be implemented; now I know we've been abandoned. Please don't keep referring to it as, would you upgrade. There is no upgrade path. It's, would you pay another $500 for the camera they should have provided you in the first place. I contacted DJI and there is no upgrade/trade-in path for recent Action 3 owners. I am never buying anything from this company again. No one should, unless you have money to burn.
Wondered why this video is familiar just realized it's same as with go go hero 11 comparison...
gopro hero 11 was released last year and honestly gopro hero 11 is much better video quality and stabilization.
we have to wait september 15 for a real comparison with gopro 12 vs osmo action 4.
So much hype about this new camera...in comparison with gp11 only win on the magnetic attachment, this camera is out date, stabilization? worst than gp11, overall image quality? gp11 win.
price in Europe ? is a scandal, more expensive than gp11.
GoPros don't have reliability.
I still have PTSD from seeing your ipad screen
Looks nice but like some others, I want to wait till next month and see what the GoPro is going to bring. The leaks for the Hero 12 look amazing, however unbelievable.
Except for 1" sensor, what else is so unbelievable in th GP12?
@@guyhanoi8561 rumors of 8k 60 and 4k 240fps along with the 1" sensor for a camera that is already notorious for overheating.
@@guyhanoi8561 overheating
@@guyhanoi8561 A new CPU and polished OS
compare to gph11 it is a 50-50 on low light
compare to a3... yes it has better low light... but not worth $400
its a no upgrade
Am I going to notice after switch my few years old hero 4to action 4 bought last week ?😂😅
I N T E R E S T I N G... in your comparisons between OA3 vs OA4, I actually preferred the colors on the OA3. Blacks are black and it has that contrast-y look that I really like.
I wonder if that is due to the color science straight out of the camera or is it a dlog vs dcine type of thing because I really do find the colors to be better on the OA3.
That “black” and extra contrast is actually due to a lower dynamic range and lost information. You can easily adjust this with the DJI 4 due to the widened range where as it would be impossible in the previous model. It’s a better more flexible camera, trust me. Any one that has done color grading will recognize this otherwise subtle difference.
@@robinhilliermodernagents7432 really? Even in the daylight? So if I get OA4 footage and crush the shadows, I'll get the same look? Me likey. 😅👍
I'm tryna upgrade from my osmo action OG but I haven't been convinced by the OA2, 3, Go Pro 8,9,10... the 11 looks pretty dang good. I MIGHT'VE pounced but it's kinda late in the game now as the OA4 is out and the GPH12 is swinging for it's neck in a month.
Really, i'm waiting for when the GP2 processor hits the ceiling (like they did with the buggy GPH9) and then I pounce on the year older but stable GP2 processor one.
If the GPH12 is the ceiling and all the bugs fly out, then my debate would be GPH11 vs OA4. So this is still a consideration and I like the look with the crushed shadows.
does the autofocus error on action 3 has been resolved?
Some youtube reviewers tested this and said it is resolved.
Well Rob why don’t you tell us what your opinion is. You’re the expert. That’s why I came on here.
Get the GO 3, Action 4 and X3 😬 Been using this for a long time since this video was made and i´ve taken all travling.
@@RobHK thank you for this Rob. Much appreciated.
Deeper is always better
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The 3 looks better
Ngl if you're new to action cams I'd get dji or insta 360 go pro has sucked for so many generations now.
Just placed my order for the Action 4. Buha-bye GoPro...
You didn't say nothing.
It looks grainy and crappy, why can't they put iPhone like sensors in a small little box like this.. Rubbish junk
Everybody saying " unsponsored review" anyway, go pro wins again