At the end of the day James so much better to get it all off and start again, then when u done it all and yur living in it u know what lies beneath! 😊👍
No matter how spelled, I've often heard and used the phrase "batten the hatches", but never knew what it actually referred to, other than getting ready for some impending difficulty. For instance, we batten the hatches as we face hurricanes here in Texas. So thanks for teaching me that today. Plus I enjoyed the sarcasm about your lucky kiddos going to the lumber yard. Well done. Leigh
Sometimes its worth spending the money on the underlying foundations to ensure its right and look to save in other areas later on, or risk a whole heck of work based on loose crumbling supports and foundation which will only need replacing or patching once you have installed all the bulkheads and decor. IMO, great vid keep up the good work
Rip it all out and start afresh, James. You know it makes sense. You can use the old panels as templates for the shiny new ones. Today, the timber yard. Tomorrow, Accident and Emergency at the local hospital. 🤕 Take care! All the best, mate.
James, I believe in your ability to make this boat amazing. Do what it takes to get the job done right - even if it takes a little bit longer than you initially anticipated. Sending love to you, the family, and Carol. ❤️
Got to say, I've been watching you do this and I'd suggest you need to do ALL the prep work before you start putting more boards up. You need to gut this boat ! Good luck because you've got way more work than you've first realised, I reckon.
Hi James after to seeing taking the first panel down plus the next one and the work involved behind why not do the rest for a decent job of the panels i know its money but money spent now on a blank sheet would give you better value latter it coming on well though good luck
James, I know it's the last thing you want to hear right now but, should really rip down the walls and just re-baton & reclad them with 10mm to 15mm plywood. There's just so much Shoddy craftsmanship all over the place that you're fighting it every step of the way. At least by reclading the walls you'll know that it's was built properly and you won't have to try to work around the crappy bits. If you want to save some money on lumber you can reuse some of the plywood that you tore off the walls and make Batons out it by stacking it together. 👍👍 Edit I still think you should get Graham to build you a second hatch for the other side of the boat, the one he built it just looks so damn good!
Do it right - do it once. The bodged bits previously done would do your head in if left. Better to suffer the pain and extra work now and be happy that it's done well and safe. That bit of well looked neither !
James I always look forward to your next video,it really does make fascinating viewing. I know these locations so well as my son owns a small Cabin cruiser called "Dotty" we spent the winter renovating her. Hugely "Ironic" that the heavens opened as your watertank was empty.
James you know that it all has to come out. It is a proper boat that Jack built!!! You wouldn't be happy knowing that you haven't done it properly. Rip it off and start a fresh.
@@frankiepitt9135 so I’m an expert now 😂. I’d personally especially after seeing the state behind the upper walls and the battens want to do the job properly and also rather than use spray foam to secure the lower walls I would of removed and battened it and also would give me a chance to inspect behind it as I expect it’s in just as bad a state or worse behind the lower walls as the top is. Just my opinion. Id rather take a little longer and do it properly as the walls will be up there for the next 20 years or so. Also I’d rather do it now with the boat empty than find out I got problems in a few years with condensation or damp and the security of the lower walls and have to remove the walls when everything’s been built and a lot harder to get down to fix problems.
Been delating lots of youtube channals. Guess i prefer honesty like you are prevading us. Sorry for my rotten english trying to be better in the future. Norwegian and english just don't go so good together.
James paint the walls that don’t need to be replaced. The problem is when you are looking at it the way it is now you can’t imagine it looking correct, when you get through. It’s messing with your eyes. You can fill all the holes with wood putty and sand. It will look good. You have nothing to lose if it doesn’t work then you take down the walls. Save yourself they money on wood.
I've watched the whole series so far and admire your work ethic. I know it was intitally a do up, but now don't you think it would have been better to gut the lot and start afresh. Is it too late to do that now even? The spray foam doesn't look briliant and the timbers too. Is there a chance that all that yellow foam and rough plywood is going to leave a musty smell in the finished boat. I personally would gut it now and be done with it. The floor is already done and the engine and engine bay. It'll just be the sides and ceiling. Only my opinion.
We've got a community enterprise place which sells recycled wood and there appears to be something similar in st Alban's, we've also got one that sells repurposed paint in leeds. Just think that even if you can save a bit on the stuff that you don't see or by being creative it might be worth having a nosey. Glad to appear on your washing machine :)
If it just the battons which are the problem, could you remove the wall panels and re-use them? Can you remove the wall panels with the window trim attached?
I know it’s a pain, but you know as well as we do that it’s necessary. Pull the boards. Salvage what can be salvaged, put the battens where needed. It will make the rest easier and give you better options. I feel you. Our backyard renovation has become a major endeavor.
Rip it off James ! Your kids will appreciate the time spent with you. I know I did when my parents divorced ! Least they’re not going sleet shooting like I did ! X chin up matey x skeet not sleet !!
Its your home James, you know you have to pull all the walls down and secure them. Maybe 'sponsor a side' £5 gets a name on the back of a board and £25 gets a front?
James, my husband builds boats in the States and doesn’t understand why they don’t put a rust retardant paint or treatment of some type on the steel we see on your videos behind the walls? If you put the rust inhibitor on the steel it would stay In better shape and last longer. It appears the manufacturer did a horrible job on building the boat before you got it! I would still do the boat with thin wood panels and wood battens! Look at Fran and Rich’s boat inside! Very beautiful! 😊Good Luck and keep up the good work!
I do not wish to be critical of others, but whoever did that previous fit out should not be allowed anywhere near a boat. Everything you touch has been so poorly done, it makes me wonder about the other upper panels. I do wonder if the previous owner knew how bad this was? I doubt it, but it means that the boat was worth even less than you thought (I seem to remember saying the same about Sloe Patrol). You are one seriously hard working bloke, a diamond in the rough.
They are going to go back to school and when they get asked by their teacher, 'What did you do in the holidays' they can reply you 'wood' not believe it.
Sorry to say James, but at this rate it’ll take you years. Tinkering around with bits of battening & spray foam. It strikes me that funds have dried up & you are doing small jobs that don’t cost much. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not knocking you as we’ve all be there financially, but it does seem as you take on step forward & one back, you may have under estimated the work/costs involved…..let’s face it to do it to the high spec you want, you’ll be looking at the thick end of 15K+ Saying that I can’t fault your enthusiasm & work ethic👌
The more you go on with the walls the more apparent it becomes that it's all crap, unfortunately for you. Thing is you have to ask yourself, do you really want to come back and fix stuff when it does go wrong which it will do. Whoever did that boat out originally must have been pissed most of the time. It's all about bodging, over and over again.
I believe someone commented that it was probably a hire boat in a previous life. Thrown together quick and cheap... Having seen it, I'm inclined to believe it.
The box section iwo window should be reinforced by above and below window sections married in to existent ones to reinstate the lost longitudinal strength of the superstructure. What a complete Dell-Boy plonker fit out done prior. Steel should never ever be left exposed. The insulation is pathetic. The deck-head battens could so readily have been glue-laminated curves made to fit and strengthen not merely to hang ceiling off. You really would be better ripping it all back to the rust and dealing with all that and complete refitting paying particular attention to all potential weather penetration areas. Your economical reinstatement is painful to watch much of the time but I do sympathise with your compromised refit pressures. Salutary lesson for boat buyers as to how the surfaces can hide a multitude of sins and abysmal design. Good for boat builders selling new boats fitted out decently.
WOW - it seems the deeper you dig, the worse it gets!
At the end of the day James so much better to get it all off and start again, then when u done it all and yur living in it u know what lies beneath! 😊👍
Yeah I think that’s the way to go
Akro prop tip. Put a screw or two up on the wood batton to rest on whilst leaving you free to tighten the pole
🤔 I got a feeling the whole lot is coming off! Fresh start 🧐
@@Narrowboat.and.offgrid.living True that! Steel boats do rust from the inside out.
@@Narrowboat.and.offgrid.living especially since it's being documented on UA-cam a poor job could effect resale value in the future 🤔
Yep. I’ve got the same awful feeling too
No matter how spelled, I've often heard and used the phrase "batten the hatches", but never knew what it actually referred to, other than getting ready for some impending difficulty. For instance, we batten the hatches as we face hurricanes here in Texas. So thanks for teaching me that today. Plus I enjoyed the sarcasm about your lucky kiddos going to the lumber yard. Well done. Leigh
@@IDKline true... but the earlier commenter was referencing the spelling
@@IDKline i work in a criminal court, so I see that every day🤔
At 8:04 to 8:13; Contemplating the immortal words of Socrates, who said; "I drank what?" ;-)
You’ll be happy you did this.
Sometimes its worth spending the money on the underlying foundations to ensure its right and look to save in other areas later on, or risk a whole heck of work based on loose crumbling supports and foundation which will only need replacing or patching once you have installed all the bulkheads and decor. IMO, great vid keep up the good work
Thanks pal - yeah I do agree
Rip it all out and start afresh, James. You know it makes sense. You can use the old panels as templates for the shiny new ones.
Today, the timber yard. Tomorrow, Accident and Emergency at the local hospital. 🤕
Take care!
All the best, mate.
I do agree
Got away with no A&E today !! Timber yards all good. Kids all good. Towpath sodden
James, I believe in your ability to make this boat amazing. Do what it takes to get the job done right - even if it takes a little bit longer than you initially anticipated. Sending love to you, the family, and Carol. ❤️
I’m thinking that’s the way to go
Thanks
WOW! You really spoil your kids, hours in a Timer Yard - they're going to love it!🙃 Still it is all good education.
Got to say, I've been watching you do this and I'd suggest you need to do ALL the prep work before you start putting more boards up. You need to gut this boat ! Good luck because you've got way more work than you've first realised, I reckon.
Yeah I have a bad feeling you’re right. There’s so much more prep work than I thought
Hi James after to seeing taking the first panel down plus the next one and the work involved behind why not do the rest for a decent job of the panels i know its money but money spent now on a blank sheet would give you better value latter it coming on well though good luck
James, I know it's the last thing you want to hear right now but, should really rip down the walls and just re-baton & reclad them with 10mm to 15mm plywood.
There's just so much Shoddy craftsmanship all over the place that you're fighting it every step of the way.
At least by reclading the walls you'll know that it's was built properly and you won't have to try to work around the crappy bits.
If you want to save some money on lumber you can reuse some of the plywood that you tore off the walls and make Batons out it by stacking it together. 👍👍
Edit I still think you should get Graham to build you a second hatch for the other side of the boat, the one he built it just looks so damn good!
Do it right - do it once. The bodged bits previously done would do your head in if left. Better to suffer the pain and extra work now and be happy that it's done well and safe. That bit of well looked neither !
That’s exactly it. It my head and then over time would loosen and be not just in my head but visible all the time
It’s got to come down
Enjoy time with the youngsters, you will find, like I have, those years fly by. You take care. Thank you.
I am. Just played a mammoth game of monopoly with them - beautiful it was
James I always look forward to your next video,it really does make fascinating viewing. I know these locations so well as my son owns a small Cabin cruiser called "Dotty" we spent the winter renovating her. Hugely "Ironic" that the heavens opened as your watertank was empty.
Love irony
Glad you like the scenery as you know it
I think I recognise the boat name
James you know that it all has to come out. It is a proper boat that Jack built!!! You wouldn't be happy knowing that you haven't done it properly. Rip it off and start a fresh.
He should of took the lower walls down to as well and inspected and battened them instead of bodging them like he did.
Always good to hear from the experts.
@@frankiepitt9135 so I’m an expert now 😂. I’d personally especially after seeing the state behind the upper walls and the battens want to do the job properly and also rather than use spray foam to secure the lower walls I would of removed and battened it and also would give me a chance to inspect behind it as I expect it’s in just as bad a state or worse behind the lower walls as the top is. Just my opinion. Id rather take a little longer and do it properly as the walls will be up there for the next 20 years or so. Also I’d rather do it now with the boat empty than find out I got problems in a few years with condensation or damp and the security of the lower walls and have to remove the walls when everything’s been built and a lot harder to get down to fix problems.
Been delating lots of youtube channals. Guess i prefer honesty like you are prevading us. Sorry for my rotten english trying to be better in the future. Norwegian and english just don't go so good together.
Get spray foam nozzles on ally express they turn foam gun into spray foam gun
I think the hatch windows look bloody amazing James! it may be worth changing all the others too, or paint them to match the hatch ones .
I agree - love the new hatch
James paint the walls that don’t need to be replaced. The problem is when you are looking at it the way it is now you can’t imagine it looking correct, when you get through. It’s messing with your eyes. You can fill all the holes with wood putty and sand. It will look good. You have nothing to lose if it doesn’t work then you take down the walls. Save yourself they money on wood.
I've watched the whole series so far and admire your work ethic. I know it was intitally a do up, but now don't you think it would have been better to gut the lot and start afresh. Is it too late to do that now even? The spray foam doesn't look briliant and the timbers too. Is there a chance that all that yellow foam and rough plywood is going to leave a musty smell in the finished boat. I personally would gut it now and be done with it. The floor is already done and the engine and engine bay. It'll just be the sides and ceiling. Only my opinion.
Would love to live on a boat
Its the school holidays and your taking the kids to the timber yard.. Awesome, its every kids dream.. 🤣
I think I heard one of them say, Dad is the best bringing us here. I’m pretty sure that’s what I heard over the sound of the massive timber machinery
Mammoth undertaking but worth it in the end and good to watch the journey. Thankfully youre wearing protective gloves, looks like a world of spelks!
It’s getting more and more mammoth as the days go on. But I think I know where to go from here
We've got a community enterprise place which sells recycled wood and there appears to be something similar in st Alban's, we've also got one that sells repurposed paint in leeds. Just think that even if you can save a bit on the stuff that you don't see or by being creative it might be worth having a nosey. Glad to appear on your washing machine :)
Hey thanks !!! The boaters around here do a lot of upcycling of my stuff too !!!
If it just the battons which are the problem, could you remove the wall panels and re-use them? Can you remove the wall panels with the window trim attached?
You put in a new hatch and you primed the outside but you left it bare metal on the inside?
I primed the outside as the metal had been made bare but the inside of the frame is already primed. It was the boat which needed priming not the hatch
I know it’s a pain, but you know as well as we do that it’s necessary. Pull the boards. Salvage what can be salvaged, put the battens where needed. It will make the rest easier and give you better options.
I feel you. Our backyard renovation has become a major endeavor.
Hope the backyard goes well pal. Yeah I think you’re right, the walls down
Have you looked at the water freedom system for project 58, would be great if u could do a review of it
Rip it off James ! Your kids will appreciate the time spent with you. I know I did when my parents divorced ! Least they’re not going sleet shooting like I did ! X chin up matey x skeet not sleet !!
GOOD VID
Hey Jim, what is the name you're going to give your boat once you've completed the project?
Wait and see.
BTW - that’s not the name
Its your home James, you know you have to pull all the walls down and secure them. Maybe 'sponsor a side' £5 gets a name on the back of a board and £25 gets a front?
@@IDKline not in a month or so
@@IDKline I havnt seen any with the new pooch in it. I know they have bees and chickens and were working on a shed to house a train set up
James, my husband builds boats in the States and doesn’t understand why they don’t put a rust retardant paint or treatment of some type on the steel we see on your videos behind the walls? If you put the rust inhibitor on the steel it would stay In better shape and last longer. It appears the manufacturer did a horrible job on building the boat before you got it! I would still do the boat with thin wood panels and wood battens! Look at Fran and Rich’s boat inside! Very beautiful! 😊Good Luck and keep up the good work!
I do not wish to be critical of others, but whoever did that previous fit out should not be allowed anywhere near a boat. Everything you touch has been so poorly done, it makes me wonder about the other upper panels. I do wonder if the previous owner knew how bad this was? I doubt it, but it means that the boat was worth even less than you thought (I seem to remember saying the same about Sloe Patrol). You are one seriously hard working bloke, a diamond in the rough.
They are going to go back to school and when they get asked by their teacher, 'What did you do in the holidays' they can reply you 'wood' not believe it.
I’d get my coat if I were you.
Sorry to say James, but at this rate it’ll take you years. Tinkering around with bits of battening & spray foam.
It strikes me that funds have dried up & you are doing small jobs that don’t cost much. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not knocking you as we’ve all be there financially, but it does seem as you take on step forward & one back, you may have under estimated the work/costs involved…..let’s face it to do it to the high spec you want, you’ll be looking at the thick end of 15K+
Saying that I can’t fault your enthusiasm & work ethic👌
how do the pub patrons react to your power tools with their canalside pints
Gut the whole lot. Fix it proper.If you don't, you'll kick yourself sometime down the cut.
Divided each task into sections and before you know it, it will finished.
Definitely need dog friendly steps .
Yeah my mates dog couldn’t figure it out the other day
The more you go on with the walls the more apparent it becomes that it's all crap, unfortunately for you. Thing is you have to ask yourself, do you really want to come back and fix stuff when it does go wrong which it will do. Whoever did that boat out originally must have been pissed most of the time. It's all about bodging, over and over again.
I believe someone commented that it was probably a hire boat in a previous life. Thrown together quick and cheap...
Having seen it, I'm inclined to believe it.
'The Bodge Barge'
👍👌❤️🇨🇦
Unbelievable slow progress are you stretching this to have content?
Two ex wives and five children might keep him a bit busy in school holidays.
The box section iwo window should be reinforced by above and below window sections married in to existent ones to reinstate the lost longitudinal strength of the superstructure. What a complete Dell-Boy plonker fit out done prior. Steel should never ever be left exposed. The insulation is pathetic. The deck-head battens could so readily have been glue-laminated curves made to fit and strengthen not merely to hang ceiling off. You really would be better ripping it all back to the rust and dealing with all that and complete refitting paying particular attention to all potential weather penetration areas. Your economical reinstatement is painful to watch much of the time but I do sympathise with your compromised refit pressures. Salutary lesson for boat buyers as to how the surfaces can hide a multitude of sins and abysmal design. Good for boat builders selling new boats fitted out decently.