The American Society of Magical Negroes: A Satirical Mess
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
- The American Society of Magical Negroes: A Satirical Mess
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Art and Animation by Just Some Guy
Original trailer concept: FMA Brotherhood & Black Summoner
Music: "Enkon Hakuchuumu" by Sakagami Souichi - Copyright (C) 2015 Trial & Error/Sakagami Souichi All rights reserved.
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I can only picture Uncle Ruckus giving this a standing ovation.
Hilarious!!!!
LOOOOL
Are you saying Uncle Ruckus would watch this the same way conservatives watch starship troopers?
Would LOVE to see an edit of Uncle Ruckus at the end of the review clapping XD
Damn straight!!!!
The 1st thing that came across my mind watching the trailers is "Is this a real movie or a cutaway gag in the actual movie", followed by "Who's making the black wizard serving the white people? If you have magic power how is white people oppressing you?"
That last question reminded me of a certain comic ...
@@Ramsey276one hehehe
First line of the trailer " What's the lost evil species to ever exist? WHITE PEOPLE" imagine if a movie came out and said that about black people, how quickly there'd be country-wide riots, someone tell me again who has more privilege, cuz it sure as shit isn't white people
@@Ramsey276one I think Just Some Guy reviewed it, and referenced another that either was ripped off from it, or it was ripped off from.
Because, they can only use their powers to help white people. It doesn’t work to help themselves. 🧙🏿♂️
I think we all can agree that Key and Peele did it better
There can be only ONE
I still want an inner city Hogwarts movie.
Yup lol
@@bej4987 seriously, that’d be brilliant. And there’s so much ancient mythology they could pull from too.
This movie cringed all races equally. Good job on bringing us all together.
13/50 disagrees about one race playing nice.
Nah, clearly racist against one race.
For now
I think they can't even nail down the concept of "Magical Negro" that it completely stopped become a satire
...the fundamental problem with "magical negro" here is that it's basically a Hollywood in-joke the public heard of... once, in some review, and that very few people are actually familiar with in the first place.
...reminds me of Zack Snyder's latest project, Rebel Moon, that goes out of it's way to make fun of the Roman Empire. Because, you know, the Roman Empire is such a popular subject being discussed in the streets every day so major audiences really care.
@@codinghusky5196 I though snyder's movie was about grain.
There's so much focus on it, it's almost it's own character.
@@chrisbaker8533 The story is basically a kit bash of 7 Samurai, 40k (in the nonsensical department) and starwars aesthetic.
What is probably the most disgusting aspect of this movie is that it puts forth the notion that black people can only accomplish anything if they act together. This merely reinforces the notion that some how all black people have a shared destiny and must wall themselves off, whether figuratively or literally, from everyone else. It's such a bunker mentality. People can only ever be treated as members of a group, even if they don't identify with that group, and not as individuals.
I almost forgot that this existed until Just Some Guy featured it.
That final twist with Lizzie was the funniest part of the entire movie, because it implies the only reason the protagonist got the girl was that his "incel rage" or whatever was reaching dangerous levels.
If they all lost their powers, how in fuck were they supposed to erase his memories?
In The Green Mile, the character was meant to espouse exactly how racist that era was. Especially toward prisoners; and how easily a black person would be convicted. Not could. Even on purely circumstancial evidence. In the end, he couldn't avoid the fate dealt, but he did help several inmates - and (it was either the warden or the head guard I forget, it's been a while since I read the books or saw the movie) managed to change the point of view of another major character. To make reforms happen. It was messianic, but he was supposed to be. It was also an interesting introduction to the base principles of Voodoo if I recall right. His powers didn't work without a price, and they weren't a cure all.
Ironically, most of the "magical n/gro" characters people list off the top of their heads are just supporting cast doing what supporting cast do. It's almost comical that Billy Porter being a diverse fairy godmother made him one by default. Nobody thought less of the character when a old white woman played it, but a race swap popped him into that category. Same with black Tinkerbell. Morgan Freeman's God from Bruce Almighty becomes one too. If Ned was MCU Spiderman was black, he'd be one too.
It's insulting. It's a way to belittle iconic roles played by black folks. It's a way of erasing achievements. There are tonnes of white mentor characters that get nothing but reverence. But leave it for the empowerment brigade to reduce black actors in such roles to a joke.
Didn't John Coffey choose not to run when he was given the chance to, because he said that being in the world hurt him? He was given a chance to avoid his fate and chose to embrace it anyway because he was tired of feeling the pain he was suffering from being there.
@@DanielS2001"I'm tired, boss."
It's true, except on one point: the circumstantial evidence against him was extremely heavy: he was found by the townspeople holding the two children in his arms, and he was covered with their blood, they had been badly beaten, and he was a hulking man.
Even if he had not been black he would have been convicted because it was as good as being caught in the act for the authorities in such time period. To be honest, even today such occurrence would likely send someone in jail for life, regardless of skin color.
@@gerboiremoncopaing933 It was a different time, ever heard of Bartolomeo Vanzetti and Nicola Sacco? they were Italian Immigrates and anarchists that were convicted and executed for the murder of two people during a armed robbery in a highly controversial trial mostly due to being Italian and anarchists. The kicker is later examinations shown they likely did it (Sacco gun seem to been the one that fired the shoots) but that doesnt change they were convicted for the wrong reasons.
I got a buddy at work who will go out and love almost every movie he sees. I asked him about magic society, and it was the first time i heard him say "nah" to a movie 😂🤣
Magical Society is a movie so bad it made White Chicks look like Othello by comparison
At least "White Chicks" was funny. 😆
Hey now...
White Chicks is a genuinely funny movie that is as quotable as "Mean Girls"
The Wayans nailed White Chicks😂
White Chicks was Amadeus compared to this…
You know something funny? The magical black guy is a trope Disney criticized. It's about a POC whose character development is non-existent and his/her role is only to support the white main character.
But do you know who fits this criteria? Tinker Bell from "Peter Pan and Wendy". She's just there to give some pixie dust for action scenes.
That's as tone-deaf as Mindy Kaling saying rich people are evil.
That’s tinker bell in all adaptations though. I think the only one where she had any character or purpose to the story beyond a simple maggufin was hook.
@@kyriss12 She betrays Wendy in the original, if i remember properly, her jealousy drives part of the plot.
@@kyriss12 It's ironic that in the live action remake of Peter Pan they cast a black woman to play Tinker bell. In an attempt to be progressive they went full circle and reinforced the trope
"One person screwed up and now everyone has to suffer" is the most elementary school teacher interpretation of the magic system in this world, it's frankly unbelievable, in the most literal on steroids, meaning of that word.
Sometimes people are just jerks, though not racist.
Side point of the movie, but the secret women's organization really gets me in a tizzy. As if girlfriends and wives aren't supposed to be supportive of their men by default? Cuz you, know, they're in a *relationship* with them where women support the men just as the men are supposed to do for women! Or is that not supposed to be the case, as there has to be a 'society' because women on their own aren't supportive or loving by default?
Boy, isn't that a crappy implication to make.
Yeah if you really take the implication to its logical conclusion, it means that if a boyfriend or husband is supportive of their spouse, it's because they truly are... but if a girlfriend or wife is supportive of their spouse, it's only because they've been asked to by their employer and otherwise would not be if it wasn't their job.
What's worse, I think the thing with the Woman's society was SUPPOSED TO BE a joke.
Just ONCE can we have a movie where different people work together? Like a disaster movie where people of different cultures not only work together, but gain a better understanding of each other? Or literally anything other than THIS.
Oooo, what about parents of different backgrounds going after some criminal(s) that hurt their babies in some way or another? Like they go on a vigilante spree when a gang sells the daughter of one into prostitution, kills another kid in a drive by, and even was the dealer for some kids that over dosed. That sounds like it'd be awesome to see instead of the usual single parent or single couple taking revenge for their kid
Like Volcano (1997)?
It was not peak cinema by any means, but to this day, I remember the scene in the end where the little boy, after watching the crowd made up of every race, s/x, and class work together to help each other in a time of peril and covered in ash, said "They all look the same."
This was a mediocre movie by 90s standards. A movie like this would be revolutionary today given how much hate these deluded people spread under the banner of "inclusion."
It's perversion.
What the hell happened?
@@sianais Seriously. Torchwood was a VERY progressive Doctor Who spinoff. It had diversity and inclusion. BUT was still a decent sci Fi show.
Like the Stand?
I could list you about 1000 movies like the one you describe, starting with a little indy project very few people heard of, called The Independence Day, but clearly you're 7 and have plenty of movie watching to do so I'll leave you to it.
My issue with this trope is that it's really a non issue.
Sure, there's times it could be racist. But I hardly consider green mile an example of this. It's like if I were to watch the last samurai and go "Omg how dare they make a white dude nothing but a helper for the Japanese!"
It's silly. Wether it's an old white European wizard, an Asian monk or master of some ancient art, a wise old black man with magic powers, or whatever else. Every race has "stereotypical old man with magic powers."
And while yes, there's definitely ways to make it racist... id hardly put green mile or even the very unfairly criticized song of the south as examples of those.
Thing is though when it's a white guy as a supporting character for a nonwhite character it's called a "self insert", whereas when it's the opposite it's called "racist". They serve the exact same purpose but because of a difference of skin color it's viewed differently. Pretty racist view point to have.
Or they call The Last Samurai a “white savior” trope, which just shows they didn’t even watch the movie or have heard people parrot that idea so much they forget what actually happens in the movie. Which just proves all of this is generally about race and NOT about the actual movie or the story.
What you’re referring to is typically called the “badass grandpa trope” and it’s pretty common … along with the “marrying your grandma” trope… maybe better interpreted as evidence of Freudian psychological artifacts in the human psyche than racism
Isn’t the only reason the Green Mile exists because of Coffey? Always took him as the main character and the guard as just the Narrator relaying the story a out Coffey.
Basically yes … also King was on so much coke when he wrote it… it’s disingenuous for Spike Lee to even try to make it make sense … it’s literally a cokehead ranting at 3am into his typewriter … not saying it’s bad but like … come on… it’s like trying to interpret societal moral lenses from yeeted up tweets in the middle of the night
They spent $15 million to make the movie, but it only grossed $2,496,248 before it was pulled from theaters....It was a total flop! 😅
I still cant believe this is a movie and it was actually made. By people. I think its just a prank some aliens pulled.
IF ONLY...
The Society of Supportive Wives and Girlfriends actually sounds awful. Do the girls truly fall in love with the guy who they have to support, or do they disappear and move on to the next guy? If that's the case, they are basically rent a girlfriends.
Doesn't that also imply that if the main character didn't get a girlfriend then he would start hurting women? Considering the purpose of TASoMN is meant to keep white people from hurting black people, that's the only conclusion I can come up with why SoSWaG exists
When I first saw the trailer I thought it was satirizing anti-white racism and was using a biracial guy as part of the joke to say that it extends to him as well.
Funnier movie, to be honest.
I mean yeah, how can you release a trailer calling white people the "most dangers predator on the planet." present it as a fact and not an opinion, and not expect it to be seen as racist.
Imagine the end message being "It doesn't matter our differences. we all suck equally. We all want to make tribes and pick sides. We want to destroy and subjegate anything that doesn't fall on our side. We want to assume the worst in everyone. We only want see what makes everyone different from us and convince ourselve that everyone's out to get us, because it's easier to accept an evil world that hates us than it is to accept our own sucky-ness. But in a way, that makes us all the same. So why not just forget our differences and start sucking together? Because maybe, if we did that, we might just suck a little less."
@@darkjelly944 This reminds me simultaneously of the joke “I’m not racist, I hate everyone equally” and the song “Everyone’s a Little Bit Racist”.
@@darkjelly944 What a beautiful speech. I think I might just save this for later. 😄
While not gaining trope status there are plenty of magical white people in movies too. Fairy god mothers, wizards, oracles, gods, demigods, and more.
Not to mention other trope magical/mystic characters like the wise Asian Master, or the wise man on the mountain (usually an indigenous/tribal ethnicity) or the mysterious native shaman. The Magical Negro is merely one of many mystic trope characters that can appear in any story to aid the protagonist, who may or may not be a Caucasian. To think that the Magical Negro is somehow unique is to ignore the innumerable tropes of mystic guides of other races that have been present in the myth and folklore of people of all nations and skin colors.
I think you’ve missed the point.
@@dcarr8816Like the OC, I think you’ve really missed the point of the criticism of this trope
@@mikeydflyingtoaster If you say that someone missed the point, explain what they've missed. Assertions without evidence can be disregarded without evidence.
@@nemamiah7832 Fair enough. Ok so the point they’ve missed is that the trope is not so much that they are magical (they’re often not) but that they seem to only exist to help the white protagonist.
Probably the only person online I'll listen to about this movie.
No one else I know of can so cleanly dismantle a piece of media for it's flaws and outright mistakes better than Just Some Guy.
He doesn't tell you sucks, he explains WHY it sucks. With just the right amount of direction of where it could have done better.
The base premise of this movie (the "most dangerous animals" line) is the most sincere and overt example of racism I have seen from an entertainment property in my entire life. Everyone who worked on this movie should be utterly ashamed of themselves.
The Society of Wives and Girlfriends was pretty much ripped from Burn, Witch, Burn. In that movie all women were practicing magic to benefit their families while fighting off rival witches spells.
I find it very strange that this movie had a biracial main character to play with the trope. Another instance of mixed people getting grouped in when it's convenient and just automatically assuming they have the same experiences as full black people.
The irony is that his experience is that of a mixed person more than a black person.
So he's not black enough to be a Magical Black Person? That's pretty racist.
@@brb1017 Please learn what irony means.
The message pushed is illogical and inconsistent. When you try to express it in art it becomes incomprehensible.
And Aaron's issue isn't lack of confidence. It's lack of competence. His yarn art is sh^t.
Throwing it away was an opportunity for him to learn something....but no.
I heard of it and I thought it was a based on the comic you already covered before.
I saw the trailer on TV and immediately thought, hmmm, David Alan Grier, magical negroes. I think I will see it. On the Friday the movie opened I had a bad feeling and I pumped the brakes. Boy am I glad I did!
I started reading reviews online that basically said what Just Some Guy just said.
This premise had so much potential. David Alan Grier is usually so good, but he didn’t write the damn thing…
My friend watched this film because he is a huge movie buff. He was telling a co-worker about it and his boss called him up for racist remarks.... He said the title of the film and explained the plot. he almost got fired for talking about a real film. Actually, I only heard of this film from my American friends, I don't think it came to Sweden at all, or if it did, it was never talked about. I can't say I missed much...
I don't get why there needs to be a whole movie deconstructing such a dead trope. Hell, the most recent one I can come up with is Radio, and that was more focused on his disability. And the idea that a white person can just attack a black person with impunity? Please, that white person would be mobbed on social media and either arrested or ostracized.
It's like how the damsel saves herself trope became more cliche than damsels in distress.
Damn does this film really show the colors of modern racism.
Most racists ive come across always have some sort of trauma they lean on to why they hate an entire group. No matter the skin tone of the person, they always have a trauma to go back to for justification. The trauma may be legitimate, but like with this film, what is a problem with a single individual gets blown into a representation of an entire group.
Its so exhausting to live around people like that.
So this is a troupe I don't know about, but I try to stay out of racial issues.
I try not to bring this up for this reason, but I'm a black man, who was raised by a white family in a black neighborhood. I had a black aunt growing up, but my aunts and uncles in the neighborhood were actually just close family friends. Eventually I moved to a different state, and lived in a majority white neighborhood. I have not scene racism from white people towards black people my whole life. Nothing more than as you said. A misunderstanding or genuinely something that was not about race at all. For example the only harassment I had from white people was for being gay while the harassment I had from black people was being an uncle tom or for loving school too much. I loved to learn as a kid and couldn't understand why that isn't cool. Now I'm not oblivious to "black history" to me it's just a part of history, a part of anthropology. I hate thinking about it as "black history" however, for the sake of conversation I'll call it that. Black people in America didn't have the best start in life, many were brought in as slaves sold by Africans to Americans and other countries. However, things did steadily get better. Were people racist back in those days? Sure, but I don't blame them for it.
What we call racism they'd see as common sense based on experience. Everything has its extremes and so in the extremes you had the worst cases, but what I'm aiming to talk about isn't about the racism aspect. It's about what happened during and after slavery. Lots of black people weren't content with their lives. Some people simply lashed out, but many just wanted better for the next generation, better for the next generation, and better for the next generation. You know what? Things got better. Not simply by wanting it, but because the families of the earlier generations focused on working hard to prove themselves, and to make sure their children got educated. To make sure that they could make themselves the equal of any white person. Because they weren't. May not sound nice, but it's true. The original slaves came from a barbaric primitive society. There was nothing magical or beautiful about it. Just selfishness, evil, barbaric, and cannibals. The people that were sold off may as well have been going to an alien planet. Because the British were superior, in every way. You've mentioned before that there are lots of black hurt from blacks wishing they were white people. I believe that's true, and I think that wish was ingrained by genuine desire from generations. Not simply so as to not experience racism, but because we saw something better about them.
Even to this day there is a disparity, but that is not at all because of racism from white people. In my opinion white people do too much to prop up black people to the point of self hatred. It has created mental illness and now the white people whom we have generationally looked up to are in a state of catastrophic regression.
I don't think there is anything wrong about the generational desire we have had. I think that speaks to the better part of our nature seeking to improve. I know you're an atheist, but I'm a Christian. I believe in man's inherent evil nature. British society as a whole civilized themselves by in large part suppressing the evils of our nature. "liberalism" sought to "liberate" man from such suppression.
So where do I see the difference now to then? Now I see a significant percentage of black people falling into the liberal narrative. They give into the evils of their nature. Joining gangs, hating goodness, having sex outside of marriage, killing their own children, fathers taking no responsibility. Theft, pillage, arson, destruction. I see a large number of "our people" who have regressed all the way back to the way we were before slavery. How is that supposed to make me feel? I don't hate myself for being black, and I don't feel like I'm inferior to white people. However, I will not see myself as a part of "our people" when all too many choose to act like animals.
How should I feel? It hurts. Because I know we can be better, because we were better. We collectively sought to be better. Now it's just easier to call people racist. To blame racism on every ill. What does that do? Well as you have pointed out here it leads to white people being attacked over nothing. Leading to more mental illness. Leading to more self-hatred. Leading to more degeneration. Which does what in the end? It doesn't lift everyone up, it doesn't life anyone up. It only tears people down, and leads us to more of the genuinely bad kind of racism.
Why do so many people act blind to this? White people aren't allowed to talk about it. Black people aren't allowed to acknowledge it. So we're left in this loop now where we're all slaves of another kind. Simple cattle for politicians and corporations to grow fat on. How should I feel about all this? How should any of us feel? I don't have a clear answer, but I can tell the feelings of whoever made this film are completely misguided.
Appreciate you taking the time to write this
The producers decided to take the DEI money to make the movie and someone took to heart "make an original movie about black people topics instead of stealing ideas"
But this mockery is so badly made that even a court jester would find offensive
I trully believe theres something broken, and they are feeding that idea to us for profit, which breaks it further, in a vicious cycle meant only for profit
Forcing DEI from almost any entertainment industry, and im not saying that im against DEI, but i learned to oppose inclusion, its segregation through merchandising, when we should strive towards integration, but those people dont like that, its difficult to make market focused products when everybody likes everything, or concentrate their made up anger and distaste if everyone accepts everyone else, so, this people created the groups "white" "cis" "males"
A effing men, friend.
As a half-black deist also raised by my white family, I’ve seen the same crumbling of our society as a whole and “the community”. On some level, I have blamed politicians because of programs like welfare (mainly because of successes such as those seen in Tulsa in the 20th century) but also have blamed those who use those programs to live like “kings” and “queens”. I wish I was as eloquent as you to delve more into my thoughts on the matter. 😅
I believe you are definitely giving waaaaay to much credit to the "superior British" who enslaved other human beings for profit as an industry, and are not cutting enough slack for the people who were kidnapped/stolen/bought from their homes and culture and then taken to a far off land where they were beaten, raped, sold, separated from their loved ones, and kept ignorant of all those civilized advances the white people had. If black people saw something better in white people, they were terrified dupes.
And I can tell you, in the American History I was taught thirty years ago, it was made clear that black people fled slavery whenever they could, went to Canada, and then wrote very literately about their own humanity and the evils of the slavers. Slavers who wrote very literately about their superiority over blacks and Native Americans, and how bringing them into civilization meant keeping them as slaves with good manners or people forced to lose their native cultures.
You say that you won't see yourself as part of "our people" (I'm white, just quoting you) but also that you are hurt by black people who "act like animals." There is no crime black people commit that white people aren't. Not organized "gang" thuggery, not hating goodness, certainly not sex outside of marriage. Believe it or not what I'm trying to say is; you can relax. It's not a black-white thing. There are waaaaaaay to many people in "the black community" doing good, really good, for anyone to be down on "the black community". The largest part of black anger at the moment is toward those elements of society that are still committing and getting away with oppression of black people, even after the defeat of slavery, the defeat of the Ku Klux Klan, the defeat of Jim Crow laws, and the defeat of every segment of society black people weren't allowed into from land ownership to the military to voting rights to political office to education to (for crying out loud) professional sports. Black people have no reason to be anything but angry about having to fight this much just to be treated as equal. Ya can't blame every obstacle black Americans face on white racism but goddamn, how high is the count?
Personally I like the joke that some black people came together to gently guide dumbass white people away from racism, and mostly just to avoid being harmed. If it was executed poorly in this movie I would still compare it to the "white man's burden" mindset. Those assholes weren't even trying to be funny.
So let me get this straight... everyone has magic except white males? Also, I'm biracial and all that taught me is each side is equally racist, so it's pointless to pick sides. I like both sides. I refuse to pick only one.
Well said! That is the only way to win the “race” game: refuse to play!
And why should you have to pick a side? The whole idea is just nuts to me.
@@ianmacdiarmid1249 I dunno, but Obama clearly did.
@@swampfaye because it was politically expedient.
@@ianmacdiarmid1249 no it wasn't. He could have expanded his base. He picked sides because he thought it gave him more power. Ann's maybe it did, but it also divided the country. I blame him.
The oldest surviving written story in the world feature the civilized Gilgamesh and his wild friend Ekidnu.
This ain't a new trope.
When I heard about this, I said it would either be mediocre-bad or so bad it came out the other end and was good. Sadly, it definitely landed in mediocre-bad territory.
I LOVE DAG. I worked on every episode of The Chocolate News. And I watched this film. I had the exact same response to this that Just Some Guy has. It’s a hallow film.
I couldn't even get through this review without stopping, I can't imagine the torture session that is this movie.
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My grandad had to flee Florida when his SISTER happened to look at a white MAN in the wrong way.
There's the old Chris Rock stand up bit (edit, changed from BUT, that autocorrect) about the racist black man.
Ironically my grandad was named Willie.
I'm 40 btw and my grandad died in 2012.
I wonder if they were trying to be like Mel Brooks, and make a Harry Potter version of Blazzing Saddles but they just have such racist hate in their hearts they can't be funny?
There is a fundamental problem here. Imagine the Green Mile not having a "magical negro", but a magical person of another race. Swapped out a black person in a major protagonist role for someone else. This is Schroedinger's complaint, if you do not include black culture, you are erasing - COMPLAINT. If you include it, you are pushing stereotypes - COMPLAINT. In Green Mile the magic was not race specific (Do not remember any references to Voodoo), they could have indeed chosen anyone, they went for "friendly giant" and as far as I perceived it, arrived at random at John Coffey. Maybe not, but then I would assume that they wanted to refer to racial prejudice in judicial practice in the USA to boost the friendly giant appeal.
This is also not a person popping up randomly but a/the core concept of the story. So you have a black person in an exchangeable role, but still - COMPLAINT.
Unfortunately I do not know the other mentioned movie.
The premise by this standard is bogus, which makes satire challenging.
Movies of this type make you wonder, if they are not somehow secretly launched by the extreme right as a false flag to smear Leftists.
Makes you wonder why no one takes into consideration Democrats created the KKK
The only thing it looks like Aaron could steal is someone’s happiness.
I sat through this movie. It was so cringe.
My sincere condolences. Just out of curiosity, why didnt you walk away?
@TheSuperappelflap I had the theater to my self so I could yell at the movie. No would be mad I was yelling..
@@catsithx
Reminds me of that Goku and Vegeta fighting someplace empty meme...
That was a good synopsis and thank you for it! I'm not likely to see this movie but if it finds itself coming up in conversation I'll mention this video in any discussion I have of it.
Wow...great summary of the concept at the start!
My dad's biracial and if he told me that all his life he's felt like he's had to comfort his white wife, mother and quarter black (e.g white) kids I'd say, thanks for not being an asshole Pops.
These feelings need a therapist not a trite romcom movie.
Glad to see such a nuanced review. Keep it up.
I clicked this over the latest RLM video from a couple days ago. I couldn't resist!
Torture is illegal
The problem with saturizing the magical negro 'trope' is its saturazing having supporting cast in movies play the role of supporting cast. It's not a real product of racism, exclusive to black roles, or even reflective of bad writing. It's just a quirk of history that a lot of early culturally memorable roles new black actors played in diverse films were monster/horror flicks. Probably because at least half of those films were borrowing from Haitian zombie lore and they wanted a feeling of some authority figure on the zombies to come from where the lore comes from.
But none of that's bad and none of those 80s horror flicks held back black actors from securing lead roles as protagonist and presidents in 90s action films and rom coms, all which did great and became well received classic films by everyone today.
Isn’t this just the plot of that one comic JSG covered awhile back?
I can't believe that this only has 17,000 views, it has been up for over 17 hours.
The Boomdocks is an infinitely better and more accurate satire. 😎
Am not gonna lie I got 3minutes and 31 seconds in and had to stop. What a lot of shite. I can't believe you put yourself through watching this lol. I salute you brave soldier.
Scatman Crothers in Twilight Zone:the movie-Kick the Can!
Or him in The Shining
When I watched that, I didn't see a black man helping the other old people, I just saw a man helping other old people. I was always told not to focus on race, but I guess I was doing it wrong
@robbieracer3294 The whole movie was great..that idea in the segment is just the definition of the term..It doesn't mean you're supposed to look at it that way..Or do you,it doesn't matter.
@@IdiotLord123456 "Shh, do you wanna get sued?"
Uncle Ruckus be like: *"Well...well...well...""
Its a movie talking about racism, while being racist, and telling everyone their racist, its a mess.
Has anyone seen Amarica Fiction? That looks like a great satire involving black americans in the white world.
Our at least out of urban civil rights struggle
Waiting for lunch in grade school. Now that’s a miserable experience I haven’t thought about in decades 😂
Just treat other people the way you want to be treated.
That's literally all it takes to not be racist.
The worst part is that David Alan Grier buys into this in art and the real world now. The Trump Era broke so many peoples brains but that is one I mourn more than others.
Great intro to your video 😂😂😂😂😂
Brutal.
I must say you are really brave to watch this movie. I couldn't do it 🤣🤣😂😂
This was definitely a key and peel sketch originally
[UK, old white guy] Thanks for explaining the 'magical negro' trope. Not being familiar with American racism I had no idea the trope was a thing but your examples are perfectly clear. It's good to learn.
I'd suggest taking a look at the comments, as many people have explained why this trope is nonsense.
I suspect that this speech by the protagonist at the end of the movie, is the makers speaking. They think their life is so full of racism because they interpret everything in their life through that lens. It is anything but healthy to be honest and probably will harm them and anyone around them.
I can honestly say that I've never looked at other white people and thought "my people". I've never helped a person because they were white. The complete lack of self-reflection in the leaders and tastemakers of various "communities" is absolutely stunning.
I have a friend who joked about a movie about what'd be like if there was Harry Potter for these magical people, and he wanted to sue the movie for copyright infringement.
What I wanna see is an expansion of that Key and Peele skit with an inner city wizard school.
I don't know what to think about this. 🤔
I thought that was just spike lee's jealousy of anyone with any shred of talent or intelligence.
i hope justice Smith dose not returns in detective pikachu 2
When I heard the name of this this movie, I thought it the feature length version of that Key & Peele sketch about the Hogwarts in the Hood. God, I wish that was the case.
I really want to see this movie, just because the concept has so many great possibilities that I want to see how it could have gone so bad. An earnest satire is one of the most powerful methods of critique and I really want to learn how to write better. That being said, sometimes the only thing you learn from failure is that you have failed, and watching a glacier melt in real time isn't very productive.
Oh so it’s the “nice guy” TM.
I would really enjoy a rewrite from you about this movie. If you were given the script how would you change it?
I thought i was going to be another fantastic beast movie/apart of the harry potter universe but it focuses on black wizards or something XD
I hope we get a South Park parody of this movie
Damn, you do a better job talking about racism in a thought provoking manner than an entire movie about black people dealing with racism.
but, if i do watch it, and praise it, will people understand how virtuous i am?
The prequel to the Green Mile
I didn't know how to ask for a ticket for this movie.
I find even the title is utterly abhorrent. I’d never recommend any movie that promotes such destructive divisions. Makes no sense to make a movie like this. Sad because there is a couple really good actors I like in this.
Nah there’s nothing wrong when the title or even the concept. It could have been a fun MIB-style secret organization monitoring for people in situations where they need some sage advice then send out an agent. You could have multiple funny whole little stories that just need a little push towards a happy ending.
The problem is that you can’t just go around demonizing entire races because you’re a hack writer with an imaginary bone to pick.
At least it is diverse…….. .
At first, I thought it was a parody movie. The sad thing is... THIS could have been a great movie if it was about wizards from black nationalities. I would love see an African mage or a voodoo priest be on the front lines. Such a waste.
Doesn't anything falling into a black hole, accelerate at an incredible rate?
I would love to see Just Some Guy compare this movie to American Fiction
I've been waiting for this
I was completely unaware of the trope until I saw people mocking the trailers for this film.
I also feel like a lot of these movies (written by fairly-very successful individuals) suffer from a lack of class analysis. Getting approached by a cop for "loitering" or some other nuisance "crime" is far, far more likely to happen to a poor or working-class black man. I mean, that was basically the function of "broken windows" policing. Stories like this that focus on the travails of, say, an upper middle-class individual focus on things like microaggressions or professional advancement can make the protagonist(s) come off as narcissistic if not well written. Like you said, if the story doesn't do enough to show us that the adversity is faced because of structural racism and not the inadequacies of the protagonist or misunderstanding, it falls flat--not just as a satire, but as a coherent story in general. At its worst, it can come off as tone-deaf or self-ingratiating. Satire requires reflection and self-critique. There were multiple opportunities for that in this film, but it doesn't seem like they took any of them.
Sounds like someone green lit this moving thinking it was going to be something very different. feel like we all lost on this one
How do you expect people to buy tickets for this movie when most of them won't even say the title?
I would rather have watched the recording of the pitch meeting
Great rational critique, as usual. I suspect the deeper problem with the film that you point out went right over the heads of many. Does more harm than good.
Given how much executives can screw with a film, I wonder how much of this was the writer-director's actual vision, and how much was studio demands.
Does anyone have a few examples of Magical negro tropes used in TV and movies unironically? I'm broadly unfamiliar with this, and it being considered common as a baseline is a surprise to me. "Begging for a satire," is an interesting statement, and one I feel could use some back up.
Was wondering if JSG would have time to cover this. The story idea is something that could be told in the way it was intended, i just don't feel the director of this was the right person to do it.
As JSG said the movie felt like two separate movies trying to be one. In my opinion the director should of just went with the love story first then try the satire one.
So, Smiling Friends but magic focused?