How To Cut Down A Tree

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  • Опубліковано 18 жов 2015
  • Is there a tree in your yard you want to cut down? Let us show you how to properly use a chainsaw to safely fell trees. For more details on chainsaw safety, visit: low.es/1hIJRf3
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  • @gracelutheranchurch-elslin6242
    @gracelutheranchurch-elslin6242 2 роки тому +123

    This is one of the best instructional videos about anything, ever. Thank you! I cut down a huge tree and nobody died! :)

  • @millrat69
    @millrat69 3 роки тому +88

    Excellent brief, concise tutorial. I applied what I saw here and successfully felled 2 40' trees. Thanks, Lowes!

  • @DPoner
    @DPoner 4 роки тому +33

    Damn, Lowes has the fire home repair vids

  • @andrewchapman2024
    @andrewchapman2024 2 роки тому +12

    Although I am not a professional, I have successfully cut down trees that are at least 2 feet in diameter with a handsaw and some work gloves. Usually, I go with a different shape of wedge and I am almost always cutting trees at an angle. that being said, this is definitely a useful video for beginners and there is a lot of great information.

    • @jimbradley727
      @jimbradley727 Рік тому

      A handsaw...why?? 😮
      Oh snap u almost got me! 😊

    • @andrewchapman2024
      @andrewchapman2024 Рік тому +1

      @@jimbradley727 I'm not joking. It was hard and took a long time. I was told to cut down two trees. Nobody told me what saw to use so I went for the trusted handsaw. It was hard work but I made it work.

    • @andrewchapman2024
      @andrewchapman2024 Рік тому +1

      @@dropndeal yes.

  • @leiatyndall8648
    @leiatyndall8648 4 роки тому +47

    Preferably your escape route is NOT DOWNHILL from the tree, as rolling can occur.

    • @paulanzini
      @paulanzini 2 роки тому +1

      they are not WEEDS, they are native plant species

  • @2mozz
    @2mozz 7 років тому +149

    Step one. Begin by saying " hold my beer ...”

  • @100forks
    @100forks 2 роки тому +11

    One thing I do, to ensure I am not injured in case the trunk decides to splinter, is I wrap the trunk, above where the cut is, with a
    tow strap. Tow straps are inexpensive, $20 or less, which is real cheap insurance, in case the trunk does decide to splinter.
    Yep, it takes a couple more minutes but it could save weeks in a hospital and thousands of dollars in medical costs.

    • @RockyJayyy
      @RockyJayyy 2 роки тому +2

      Above the notch? Or above the fell cut?

    • @kyleheaser351boombaby
      @kyleheaser351boombaby 2 роки тому +1

      @@RockyJayyy Not even remotely experienced at all, but after some thinking, I'd assume the splintering would be more likely to occur above, as it it beginning to lean in the direction it'll fall. Would like to see if this is correct if @100forks responds

  • @i000_
    @i000_ 5 років тому +124

    This is the best video for this. All the other videos just too long and have a bunch of blabbering. Good job👍🏽

    • @EldaDXiloj
      @EldaDXiloj 4 роки тому +4

      stp this is bad for nature jus stoooop

    • @clown3663
      @clown3663 4 роки тому +3

      @@EldaDXilojNah

    • @lightning8872
      @lightning8872 4 роки тому

      You guys deserves to go to hell exept that anime land dude

    • @DiniRN
      @DiniRN 4 роки тому

      T F y u yuh guy yy

    • @i000_
      @i000_ 3 роки тому +3

      @summer Days fk you and your pathetic life!

  • @LightGesture
    @LightGesture 5 років тому +23

    Learned something here. I like the staggered cut. Makes total sense now that I think of it! Thanks.

    • @vertigobridge3024
      @vertigobridge3024 2 роки тому +1

      I totally agree. I've not cut down a tree yet, but I have had to cut up trees that fell themselves. That staggered cut is something I had never heard of, but it will be a game changer. That and having a couple wedges will help.

    • @pakmatherdiverb
      @pakmatherdiverb 2 роки тому

      Not recommended
      This is not a good place to learn about saw work

  • @cousinsquad7896
    @cousinsquad7896 4 роки тому +2

    This is gonna be useful for when my dad needs to get wood for the fire pit! Thanks

  • @garrettnelson2293
    @garrettnelson2293 3 роки тому +5

    Wow Lowe’s this is a very informative video. Impressed!

  • @frost1183
    @frost1183 5 років тому +13

    So say I’m cutting into something soft and then I hit bones is there a good technique to keeping control of the saw while that happens? Also what do you do if the engine gets gummed up with red sticky liquid? Thanks for the help guys!

    • @SaranjitDosanjh
      @SaranjitDosanjh 4 роки тому +7

      There's a documentary called Saw that covers all of that. It's quite long though.

    • @kayagorzan
      @kayagorzan 2 роки тому

      Does that specific tree start to squeak and squeal loudly?

  • @severananthon5091
    @severananthon5091 2 роки тому

    I love operating chainsaw! Thanks for these UA-cam videos

  • @BigWaveStudio
    @BigWaveStudio Рік тому +1

    Great job Lowes!! Appreciate the video!

  • @MasterKoala777
    @MasterKoala777 2 роки тому +10

    Great tutorial. Easy to understand and direct to the point. Thanks. 🙂

  • @blacksea531
    @blacksea531 8 років тому

    hı ı have husqvarna 445 with 18" bar.is your bar 18" or 20"

  • @entity5279
    @entity5279 6 років тому +9

    this looks super satisfying

    • @timewa851
      @timewa851 6 років тому +1

      nice saw too.
      now I wanna go out, get a Husky & kill something green. Weird.

    • @48956l
      @48956l 2 роки тому

      It’s also super dangerous

  • @bnice2mepls
    @bnice2mepls 6 років тому +403

    The moment you realize people cut down bird houses to make bird houses

    • @maxkewldude5964
      @maxkewldude5964 6 років тому +2

      Panda_Cat 95 🤣😂

    • @laneramsey1473
      @laneramsey1473 6 років тому +3

      So true, but also some of the ones we cut down aren’t as good looking as the ones we make, and it can be the other way around too!

    • @JonesVenom
      @JonesVenom 6 років тому +4

      We will always need wood for more axe handles also

    • @DiscoverLens
      @DiscoverLens 5 років тому +1

      Thats Called Renovation

    • @StrifeRixa
      @StrifeRixa 5 років тому +6

      Realistically speaking you can create more birdhouses than one tree can provide on its own.

  • @datvid4866
    @datvid4866 6 років тому +438

    According to minecraft physics, you just have to punch it.

  • @HangsLopsided
    @HangsLopsided 4 роки тому +7

    A lot of good tips in a short, concise video.

  • @devil_destructor
    @devil_destructor 2 роки тому +1

    Just curious to know why the escape path needs to be at 45 degree to the tree felling line in opposite direction?

    • @Travis-7051
      @Travis-7051 Рік тому

      Because that’s the safest place. It won’t roll towards that direction, it’s not falling in that direction, and it won’t kick back in that direction if the hinge fails.

  • @r.mercado9737
    @r.mercado9737 8 років тому +10

    Great presentation!

  • @jaytayray8369
    @jaytayray8369 3 роки тому +5

    Listen yall.... I'm a graphic designer and idk how the hell I ended up here on a video about chopping down a tree 😂😂😂 I still very much enjoyed this video tho

  • @Tonekats
    @Tonekats 4 роки тому

    Worked perfectly!

  • @generalspencer
    @generalspencer День тому

    A great video. Thank you!

  • @bornifacemphiri8101
    @bornifacemphiri8101 Рік тому

    Best instruction video.

  • @mytreeserviceduluth
    @mytreeserviceduluth 9 місяців тому

    Really useful tips for individuals!

  • @keithsamuel1663
    @keithsamuel1663 2 роки тому

    Great tutorial.

  • @jennifercolbert6581
    @jennifercolbert6581 11 місяців тому

    so far it,s been working great

  • @danielthompson5785
    @danielthompson5785 5 років тому +20

    Looks like the tree rolled onto him at 0:07 .. rip

    • @thetruth3514
      @thetruth3514 4 роки тому +1

      Daniel Thompson hahaha. I want to see the unedited cut. No pun intended.

    • @toms.4382
      @toms.4382 4 роки тому +2

      1:50 he’s fine.

  • @michaelmorris6575
    @michaelmorris6575 4 роки тому

    Good video. Thank you.

  • @alexjones-qe5gc
    @alexjones-qe5gc 10 місяців тому

    Thank you Lowe’s

  • @Cyph3rX
    @Cyph3rX 3 роки тому +1

    good job lowes

  • @cameron8364
    @cameron8364 4 роки тому +4

    As a quadruple amputee I relate to that stump on another level

  • @DoctorRickSanchez
    @DoctorRickSanchez 2 роки тому +20

    This was way more informative than the Home Depot version.

    • @dimwitsadvocate6264
      @dimwitsadvocate6264 2 роки тому +2

      Yes, and This Old House has videos on felling a tree which can be condensed down to "call an expensive professional".

  • @malcolmt7883
    @malcolmt7883 8 років тому +140

    There must be 50 ways to fell your lumber
    Just break out an axe, jack
    Whip out the saw, y'all
    Use a little wedge, sledge
    And set that tree free

  • @mikethompson4854
    @mikethompson4854 5 років тому +1

    C-4 WORKS GREAT.

  • @DTTimes
    @DTTimes 6 років тому

    I feel bad but this is so satisfying ugh

  • @1DeltaT
    @1DeltaT 4 роки тому +3

    Not a bad video for those too impatient to learn it safely and slowly with an experienced tree feller on site... keep your head clear of the chainsaw path.

  • @uydcfyjcyyjc
    @uydcfyjcyyjc 4 роки тому

    His helmet/safety headpiece was hilarious. Good tips on cutting

    • @datdudenosense
      @datdudenosense 4 роки тому +3

      Not quite as funny looking at someone's head after getting slapped with a branch...

    • @trav2190
      @trav2190 3 роки тому

      @@datdudenosense ouch

  • @SermonsForLife
    @SermonsForLife 11 місяців тому

    Great video!

  • @Tam76776
    @Tam76776 2 роки тому +1

    you make great sawing videos, I'm happy to learn from you 👍🏽

  • @Carmador
    @Carmador 6 місяців тому

    Been getting tons of tree felling videos on my tiktok/reddit streams and everyone is a professional. I’m here so I can also comment like I know what I’m talking about 😊

  • @georgelavallee9487
    @georgelavallee9487 5 років тому

    Extension hose for Craftsman Chipper Vac

  • @darlenehogan6637
    @darlenehogan6637 3 роки тому +8

    Skipped the most exciting part when the tree begins to crack and you have to quickly pull the chainsaw bar straight out as not to hit the wedge and then back away.

  • @Walnutsofdoom
    @Walnutsofdoom 4 роки тому +8

    Short and to the point. Thanks, chopped my first tree.

    • @paull2937
      @paull2937 2 роки тому

      BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEFORESTER

    • @escapetherace1943
      @escapetherace1943 2 роки тому +4

      @@paull2937 you realize we have millions of overplanted trees crowding out other trees, choking the forest and destroying biodiversity all along the states due to poor logging practices?
      We need more trees in non tree areas, and we need to thin out and get back to a healthy forest and ecosystem in many other places.

    • @escapetherace1943
      @escapetherace1943 Рік тому

      @@dropndeal yes but it helps other people who may see the comment. Forests shouldn't naturally look like matchboxes you can barely walk through, normally there are trees of all different ages and that naturally causes SOME spacing but not on the level of how choked out a lot of national forests are

    • @tomasprochazka6198
      @tomasprochazka6198 11 місяців тому

      ​@@paull2937I'm gonna cut the tree very slowly, so it suffers for a looong time.

  • @ms.originalnaturehairandma8123
    @ms.originalnaturehairandma8123 4 роки тому

    Great video

  • @nicholasallen2712
    @nicholasallen2712 6 років тому +3

    Don’t go downhill of a falling tree gravity always wins

  • @amdl270
    @amdl270 Рік тому +1

    What about the stomp and roots?

  • @aymz3220
    @aymz3220 5 років тому +2

    3:17 thank you!
    Do you know what i mean?

  • @someoneelse7042
    @someoneelse7042 6 років тому

    lol i actully tryed it and it worked but escape plan didnt work out almost died but luckly it tiped other way

  • @benhodge8128
    @benhodge8128 5 років тому +4

    Thanks lowes!
    And youtube
    For helping me show dad how i magically know stuff

  • @Tommytorque69
    @Tommytorque69 5 років тому

    Nice vid!

  • @VideoNash
    @VideoNash 4 роки тому

    thanks

  • @ToolMetrix
    @ToolMetrix 4 роки тому +14

    Thanks! This is a great video! Nice careful, clear explanation. Why would someone give this a thumbs down?

    • @mushroomtip9331
      @mushroomtip9331 4 роки тому +4

      ToolMetrix Because some people don’t like forest deforestation

    • @AugustHunicke
      @AugustHunicke 4 роки тому +5

      Because some people actually know how to cut down a tree for real.

    • @passedtense436
      @passedtense436 4 роки тому +6

      Home depot supporters

    • @rm5282
      @rm5282 3 роки тому +1

      All three answers above are correct. And the fourth answer is that some lumberjack wannabe thinks he knows the best and only way.

    • @shayseahawkraptorfan
      @shayseahawkraptorfan 3 роки тому

      because its bad for the environment

  • @Shunto99
    @Shunto99 8 років тому +2

    They look like some good tree stand trees! Damn thats a sharp saw! and that guy knows how to deal with trees!

  • @natee2169
    @natee2169 4 роки тому

    What a NEAT video! Hehe

  • @damianbrayden322
    @damianbrayden322 2 роки тому

    great

  • @overkillboyd4150
    @overkillboyd4150 6 років тому

    Thank you make that Mad Max my favorite by you make that video I do that

  • @liamoconnor9017
    @liamoconnor9017 8 місяців тому

    I can't believe this video is better than 98% of videos out there

  • @stevencraig1871
    @stevencraig1871 4 роки тому +1

    What if the tree is leaning to one side ? The tree in the film looks straight up and down I think that would be easy enough.

  • @evang6503
    @evang6503 5 років тому

    This video is awesome... viewer dies trying...

  • @EbruEnDavey
    @EbruEnDavey Рік тому

    Such nice lumber, should have tried to keep a long trunk.

  • @drkn9t
    @drkn9t 6 років тому +4

    This is best left to professionals period

  • @derekrudkin9978
    @derekrudkin9978 6 років тому +2

    Ive been cutting trees down for about 6 months now, i know that doesn’t sound like experience but I’m usually at it 5-6 hours at a time, I never cut the face cut like that. I usually go in the width of the bar then for the top cut starting a few inches higher nothing like how high they did in this video. & the back cut, 2 inches above from the face cut & I go all the way till the tree starts to fall, I don’t see the need of wedges when you can just cut 85% through the tree & it’ll fall

    • @matthewpeacock2553
      @matthewpeacock2553 4 роки тому +3

      you use wedges because the tree may sit back while performing the back cut, then you will be stuck and have to take the power head off and call a buddy in shame to come help. Or you will have to muscle the the tree over, which doesnt always work. use wedges. felling trees is serious business and far too many people take it lightly.

  • @ilikesaws4068
    @ilikesaws4068 3 роки тому +1

    He brings loppers but no axe for banging the wedges!😂

    • @brianbaker359
      @brianbaker359 3 роки тому

      Easier to use a second wedge he brought, steel on plastic can chip them. If he needed to use the second wedge then he might have had an issue though.

    • @ilikesaws4068
      @ilikesaws4068 3 роки тому +1

      @@brianbaker359 yeah it can chip them. But a rubber mallet would be better if u were worried about that. On many trees a wedge would not have enough mass to drive wedges aswell. I think it's not near as good as an axe but it might work on small trees.

  • @adirmiller2141
    @adirmiller2141 6 років тому

    What's binding?

    • @rivahkillah
      @rivahkillah 6 років тому

      Binding is the pressure on the cutting tool. When it comes to cutting down trees, as you are cutting into the tree the stability on the side being cut is diminished, so it will naturally push down. That pressure is unwanted because instead of cutting into the tree, you are fighting the weight of the tree. Sorry for the poor explanation but it's one of those things that is a lot easier to demonstrate visually.

    • @matthewpeacock2553
      @matthewpeacock2553 4 роки тому

      @@rivahkillah There are two forces on a tree, compression (squeezing) and tension (pulling). When you cut into a part of the tree (mostly while limbing) that has compression the tree will squeeze back together against the bar of the saw and bind the saw. There is also compression while making the face and back cuts from the weight of the tree pressing down on itself (and the bar). wedges are extremely important while felling to prevent binding.

  • @leofreihofer
    @leofreihofer 4 роки тому

    Really good tips in this video. Well done.

  • @iu2297
    @iu2297 3 роки тому

    Small sharp strikes

  • @KrackerJack5586
    @KrackerJack5586 9 місяців тому +2

    Great video and explanations The only thing I have against it is man that was one beautiful tree why in the world would you cut that one down :-(

  • @JosephFann
    @JosephFann 8 років тому

    what to do with the trunk in the ground?

    • @ArmoredBullTrading
      @ArmoredBullTrading 8 років тому

      +Joseph Fann call a tree service that has a stump grinder- generally its pretty cheap- as long as your yard wont get trashed in the process- from the equipment

    • @StefanReich
      @StefanReich 6 років тому

      Stand on it

    • @rivahkillah
      @rivahkillah 6 років тому

      Depending on its size. Larger tree stumps are ground using a grinder and then the roots are left to rot,while smaller ones are dug out. In the old days they used to burn them out but that can be a bit dangerous.

  • @michaeldorego7313
    @michaeldorego7313 4 роки тому +1

    No trees were harmed in the making of this video.

  • @dl4065
    @dl4065 8 місяців тому

    Tried watching other videos and they were trying to hard. This one was great and straight to the point.

  • @jkileo
    @jkileo 4 роки тому +8

    thank you so much i just finished cutting a huge tree 🎄 in my front yard and i was able to make it fall right where i wanted, thank you for your instructions. i was given an estimate of 1500$ to do it, again thank you so much

    • @lowes
      @lowes  4 роки тому +4

      Glad to help!

    • @paull2937
      @paull2937 2 роки тому

      BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEFORESTER

  • @1geniusparker
    @1geniusparker 4 місяці тому +2

    Fell my first tree today and notched it perfectly. Thank you!

  • @andrewb722
    @andrewb722 3 роки тому

    Is a flannel shirt mandatory?

  • @KolaKoka-pz1vm
    @KolaKoka-pz1vm Рік тому +1

    After having paid 4100 for 7 trees, I'm never doing that again. Unless it's a huge mother of all trees near my house.

  • @thehampsteadboys3713
    @thehampsteadboys3713 4 роки тому +4

    No professional lumber Jack cuts a wedge at 70 degrees all you need is 35

    • @1DeltaT
      @1DeltaT 4 роки тому

      Right, that is a super pitched wedge

    • @alpine5551
      @alpine5551 4 роки тому +3

      Lol. No professional lumber jack watches a Lowe’s how to video on how to drop a tree!

  • @travissmith7471
    @travissmith7471 4 роки тому +1

    Very helpful... Thanks for sharing...

  • @benjamingroters2002
    @benjamingroters2002 2 роки тому

    vaaaaguely correct 😬

  • @samschneider9524
    @samschneider9524 5 років тому +6

    A professional sawer would never make a 70 degree notch cut on the face , it wastes to much wood by the time your done , that's how it was when I was in the woods or you were sent packing , wood is money

    • @NiclasHorn
      @NiclasHorn 5 років тому +1

      the video was good, as your comments, cuz i need to take down a few trees, luckily not close any house or power-line´s and for me the tree´s needed to be cut down are not gonna give any money, only BBQ wood and space for the added runway for our club. But i appreciate comments from ppl within the trade. then i can plan better and are better prepared before i start the chainsaw.

    • @yearginclarke
      @yearginclarke 5 років тому +6

      I'm a logger from Northern CA and we use "Humboldt" undercuts here so as to minimize wood waste on the butt log. But for a homeowner/amateur these instructions are fine. The only thing I would add is for the undercut I personally do the horizontal cut first then the angled cut as I find it's easier to aim the direction of fall and the cuts seem to line up more accurately than doing the angle cut first. Everyone is different but most guys I've seen do the horizontal cut first.

    • @nvg1526
      @nvg1526 4 роки тому +3

      Dood this video is intended for home owners who will not be selling the wood...why do pros watch these videos anyway

    • @yearginclarke
      @yearginclarke 4 роки тому

      @@nvg1526 Because it's interesting to see how other people do things and approach it.

    • @ty-wrap8184
      @ty-wrap8184 4 роки тому

      understand the audience, and you'll realize your comment doesn't belong.

  • @ruparajsahu8903
    @ruparajsahu8903 8 років тому

    Great explanation and demo !

    • @lowes
      @lowes  8 років тому

      Thanks for watching, +Ruparaj Sahu!

    • @rossjoseph3844
      @rossjoseph3844 7 років тому +1

      Lowe's should pull this video and get an expert to do one. This guy is no expert. Someone could get killed doing it like this.

  • @Akujelppi
    @Akujelppi 4 роки тому

    👍 😊

  • @dangerforfreefirewtf1396
    @dangerforfreefirewtf1396 5 років тому

    Hi man i am mandy i don no how to the tree you teeg me thanks man

  • @owenslawnandlandscaping9665
    @owenslawnandlandscaping9665 6 років тому +6

    This is why i shop at Home Depot

  • @NadeemWolverine
    @NadeemWolverine 3 роки тому +1

    How dare you!
    You ruined my dreams!
    I should be at school on the other side of the ocean,
    How dare you!

  • @crumchyboi4972
    @crumchyboi4972 6 років тому +2

    After you buck the tree, give me the logs so i can chop them into firewood. ;)

  • @spoderman8414
    @spoderman8414 2 роки тому

    Help I’m stuck under the tree. I got a cramp and couldn’t get away in time.

  • @nextstorming3908
    @nextstorming3908 7 років тому +2

    I find chopping a log with an axe more satisfying than sawing it

    • @rivahkillah
      @rivahkillah 6 років тому +2

      If you ever have a bunch of trees to remove, you might like having a saw.

    • @mhks68
      @mhks68 5 років тому +1

      Ok Paul.

  • @ixiv1826
    @ixiv1826 6 років тому

    Hi

  • @calebanddanielchickennugge6673
    @calebanddanielchickennugge6673 6 років тому +2

    According to mincraft physics all you have to do is punch it

  • @joannperrine3559
    @joannperrine3559 7 років тому +2

    That's helpful

  • @EMAGA
    @EMAGA 3 роки тому

    I thought you were supposed to do the horizontal cut first?

  • @rossjonnes1582
    @rossjonnes1582 5 років тому

    This video is very important for all chainsaw user for keeping safe himself.

    • @hillbobaggins
      @hillbobaggins 5 років тому +2

      This is the best structured sentence I've ever read.

  • @ironhorsegladiator5034
    @ironhorsegladiator5034 5 років тому +1

    If you live on a large acre, just burn the tree down - LOL

    • @KyrenaH
      @KyrenaH 4 роки тому

      That's how forest fires start.

  • @potatopooter4071
    @potatopooter4071 6 років тому +27

    The opposite of HowToBasic

  • @drinkme2742
    @drinkme2742 6 років тому +3

    0:06 to fell trees?

    • @okidoke4822
      @okidoke4822 6 років тому +2

      Yes, that's what it is called. Felling a tree, means to cut it down.

    • @drinkme2742
      @drinkme2742 6 років тому

      Okidoke ohh ok

  • @kaae7893
    @kaae7893 8 років тому +3

    poor notching

  • @Futurebeefcake
    @Futurebeefcake 7 років тому +2

    Suprised he dosent have a stihl chainsaw, I guess he had to use what lowes sells!

    • @DerredmaxTRIAX
      @DerredmaxTRIAX 7 років тому +4

      Stihl is a great saw but Husky's are better In my opinion.

    • @elricofarmer1561
      @elricofarmer1561 4 роки тому +2

      Nothing wrong with Husqvarna! I use mine all the time and own 100+ acres of mixed hardwoods. Never had 1 problem with it. Sharp chain, oil & gas, good bar, no issues!

  • @ankurage
    @ankurage 6 років тому +1

    Am I the only one who finds this satisfying