The 7 show: EP 3 - Kali Audio IN-5 Studio Monitor Review
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- Опубліковано 2 кві 2021
- In this video I long-windedly review the Kali Audio IN-5 studio monitors. In the first section I discuss why I think I'd like these in my space, in the second we take a 20Hz to 20 kHz sweep of the Kali Audio IN-5, Adam A7, and JBL 4406 monitors and compare side by side. In the last section I listen to 8 songs (off camera) on the A7 and IN-5 and try my best to describe how the monitors performed. Finally, I give my verdict on if these are keepers or not. No skipping ahead.
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Songs on the list.
Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five - • Dave Brubeck - Take Five
Yello - Nervous - • Nervous
Yello - Junior B - • Junior B
Marilyn Manson - This is the new shit - • Marilyn Manson - This ...
Einstürzende Neubauten - Sabrina - • Sabrina - Einstürzende...
Poe - Walk the Walk - • Walk the Walk
The Jongleurs - Newspeak - • Newspeak
Talk Talk - April 5th - • April 5th (1997 Remaster)
P.S. 130 Hz = 104.3 inches - Навчання та стиль
one of the rare unbiased reviews, as far as unbiased can go. I can't fully trust people who get stuff from manufacturers. Love the extended commentary too. The tracklist was another things that set this vid apart, love that you used Take 5 as your first reference.
Finally, a review where the reviewer actually purchased the In-5 and didn't receive it for free. I know I'll get an honest impression of the speakers, and not some excessively gushing rant about how they're the greatest thing ever, simply because the reviewer wants to keep receiving free product.
Thanks. Of course there is always possible reviewer bias because they spent the money and so they WANT to like them and not feel ripped off. I guess since I can still take them back for a refund AND I kept them says something positive about them.
The question still remains if these will move to my preferred monitors. I won't know that until the room is treated.
@@SevensPinballorama Definitely, which is why it's a good idea to audition speakers if possible. Personally, I'm interested in these, the new Focal Alpha evo series and the highly acclaimed Aps Klasiks 2020. I'm likely getting the Klasiks, but we'll see.
@@SevensPinballorama oh what a smart person that understand most people when they spent the money have a hard time being negative, not the case for me I bought KRK rokit 5 g4 loved their sound but after 2 years they stopped working and I found out too late that they all break whatever model, planned obsolescence because they had major changes over the years except the fact they stop working, not a coincidence....so know what I did ? I threw them away wasted my money but my time too which is worse spending 2-3 weeks with headphones is not cool, next kali in-5 hope they won't disappoint
Excellent Review AND VIDEO !!!!
Thank you. I've almost got my treatments ready for the studio space. Stay tuned for an update on how I feel about them after listing in a space where the acoustics are a bit more in control.
Your reference tracks were GREAT! Truly a great mix of tracks that have signature characteristics that can easily be spotted when listening on trusted sources.
Thanks.
I’m glad I took my seizure medication because that clock rocked me bro... I love Kali audio
Just ordered a pair of pre owned IN 5 monitors, I'll be waiting for your six months review of these!
Ah. Right. I wanted to give a follow up. I'll do this.
Great video. I’m considering buying a pair of these as an upgrade to my KRK Rokit 6 G3, and it’s nice to watch a completely unbiased review. Many thanks.
I think the IN-5 or IN-8 v2 would blow the KRKs out of the water. I've not spent much time behind the Rokit 6, but during a test drive of monitors a few years back they were in the line up and didn't have to hear them for very long to move past them. The IN-5s are great and I'm really happy with them, but give the version 2 IN-8s a close look as well.
@@SevensPinballorama thanks for the info. I also checked out Poe after hearing you mention her, and I can’t believe she slipped under my radar. Brilliant! 👌
Great video! First time in your channel.
Thank you for finally a very interesting review of the IN5! By far the best of all the reviews i saw
Almost 1 year from the video... may i ask, do you prefer the Kalis over the Adams?
Thanks in advance and sorry for my English; I'm still learning
Have a Productive and Healthy Day!
Hi Freddy. Thanks. I'm planning on doing a follow up video on the IN5's letting people know if I still like them. Short answer is yes. They're very capable monitors. I've been in the studio working on new music the last couple days and I'm finding myself bouncing between the Kali and the Adam's a lot. I'm using the Kali's when I'm just working on writing music and the Adam's when I am mixing or trying to pinpoint something in the mix. The Kali are a bit more relaxed and the Adams are more precise - if that makes sense. Having said that, if I only used the Kali for a mix, I think the mix would translate well to other systems - which is the whole point of good monitors.
In fact, I'll put this to the test for my follow up video. I'm going to be mixing my new track in the next week or so. I'll just use the Kali for the first mix, a few days later (let my ears forget what they've heard) I'll do it again with the Adam and see how the two mixes come out. That would be an interesting test.
@@SevensPinballorama cool! i think you finally convinced me. i was in between the adam A44H and the kali IN5. i have a fairly narrow room so i wont need so much low end. thanks for your unbiased video! i can confirm your point on how all the other reviews look like
i think in any case they will be a great update coming from mixing on Yamaha Hs5's till this day 😀
I agree with your process in listening out for the characteristics each song can produce and how the speakers can (or not) detail this. Using known songs of choice can really help dial in a setup IF you know what you're listing out for. Well done on this clip. Cheers for the review on these. I have been hearing a lot about these. NOTE: I have as a "general" sound picture, a set of KRK Rocket 10'3 that I DON'T use for my critical listening monitors because they hiss like a snake on steroids, but are great from around 3 metres away as a general universal type sound. But for near field I am leaning toward the Kali in5 because as you had stated about wanting to be sure of the signal chain that there is no noise being added that otherwise you wouldn't hear because of any inherent noise that already exists within the architecture of the speakers amps. ANYWAY... Cheers.
Thanks. I've been meaning to make a quick follow up video on the Kali IN-5 now that they are in a properly treated room and in a more ideal situation. I think they sound great. I've heard Kali released the IN-8 version 2 which got rid of the noise and hum from the previous version. I would probably lean towards those if I were to buy today. but, the IN-5 is a solid, well priced monitor.
@@SevensPinballorama Yeah... am doing a bit of Research on them two (In8 2nd wave). I would be a little critical on the "mid-hi" setup... seems on some to be not quite physically centred between the mid driver and the tweeter which could be a friction issue and thus a fatigue problem down the track . Visually you can see it. Otherwise, the reviews are all good
I find unboxing videos useful when the manufacturer fails to provide a clear list of items in the box of what you're buying. Also most manufacturer pictures are the digital renders that don't show the real product in the real world, an unboxing will show you exactly how the stuff is packaged and bundled, and how it actually looks.
At what time stamps does the music play?
Thanks for making this video. Like you, I was sizing up the IN-8s because I wanted the bigger woofer, but also heard the issue with self-noise (Kali have told me that they're going to rectify this issue in the IN-8). I was looking at the IN-5s as an alternative, but was also considering the A7Xs or even the T7V. I'm looking for a second pair of monitors to compare mixes against my NS-10s, and something about the three-way design is appealing to me. Hearing your neutral review was reassuring, as I was suspicious of the potential marketing guff surrounding these monitors. To hear that your initial thoughts of these stacking up well against the A7X sounds promising.
You're welcome. The marketing on these monitors left me suspicious so I had to test them myself. If you are looking for a mate to the original NS-10s, I think the Kali IN-5 are probably a good match for the price point.
if you decide between any Kali Audio vs the TV7 go from Kali Audio, the TV7 is absolutely trash, its by no way a budget A7X, totally different , flimsy and artificial sounding. I used to have them , sold them after a week, i now have the APS Klassik 2020 and neumann kh120. Those Kali in5 sound interesting specially since they remove the self noise issue from other models
@@LaidbackSounds That's good to know. Thanks for the info!
@@Martin-kn6vc you are very welcome, and im not a Adams hater , i like their a7x and other speakers, i just think that the tv7 are extra hyped and i never was as disappointed in my life . i used them as a second ref and even for a second ref they werent great. In this price range better dfo with the yamahas for exemple. But you know the way it is trends and internet buzz sometimes put a product at the top of our wish list but when we receive it we are like what the hell haha happened to all of us.
Nice video. It convinced me to buy them but Im having trouble to level match both monitors. Did you have any problems with that? I've tried everything but there is a +2 / +1 difference between the two. Switch sides. But it seems to by the amps. Hope you can help. Thanks
I didn't have a problem with this at all. How are you connecting these? The first thing I'd try is connecting them into another port to see if that helps. Use different cables, etc. Also try resetting all the dip switches just to make sure they're in the correct position. If none of that makes a difference, I'd go back to where you bought them (or contact Kali directly) and see if they can sort it out. I wouldn't know which one would be the faulty one. Maybe the dimmer one?
I hope you can get it sorted. If you reach out to Kali, keep me updated on what they tell you.
@@SevensPinballorama have done everything. I'll call sweetwater tomorrow. Or Kali like you suggested. Thanks for reply maybe Its just a faulty unit. I can get one at 80 spl but the other goes from 78 to 83. Hope I can avoid returns.
I currently use the original lp6, would there be any benefit to getting these?
Love my current lows, would i lose them?
Thanks..
I haven't spent any real time in front of the LP-6 - let alone side by side a pair with the IN-5 - but I will say if you're happy with them and they're working well for you, then I wouldn't worry about replacing them.
Of course, judging speakers based on 'live' sound clips is wrong, but I could hear that the MoFi Sourcepoint 10 had a treble bump and later reviews confirmed that, so I can't dismiss it completely.
have you tried switches 6 and 7 up on the rear to lift the treble, you might get more details out.
Yes. First I wanted to test them out of the box just to see how they sounded. The next day I played with the dip switches. I did the +2 dB on the high end, but I didn't notice much difference. I didn't take a reading of it yet though.
I plan on doing another test and shoot the monitors in every dip switch setting to see how it looks. They really don't give much detail on half those settings and what they modify.
@@SevensPinballorama cool thanks for sharing
Is each driver from all three amped individually ?
It is my understanding they are.
How are the Kali going for you?
Good review. So you get a speaker as good as the A7 for cheaper
So far, it looks positive. Are they as good as or better than the A7? I'm not sure yet. The A7 is hard monitor to beat when it comes to stereo imagery. I will say they are a good monitor for their price.
I have a pair of lp-6's that I thought were excellent for the money, but after 4 months use I have put them up for sell. Two reason I am selling them, 1 the self noise from the amps drove me nuts. 2nd reason they had a really round bass tone... sort of flabby instead of punchy. There are things I love about them, best stereo image I heard in a long time, and not fatigueing and a sense of depth. If kali has truly got rid of the self noise, and hopefully made the bass tone snappier will keeping all the thing I just said I liked about them.... then these would be the speaker for me. So could you tell us... is the self noise gone, and the low end snappy not round and sloppy?
I can say the amp noise is not present in the IN-5 - at least no in mine. The bass sounds pretty good but my room still isn't treated and my room itself is a little round and sloppy. I should have treatments up soon and I'll do a follow up on the monitors then.
@@SevensPinballorama BUT without the room treatment, would you still assume the bass to be sloppy and not nice and tight/punchy?
What is the counter supposed to indicate?
If you are talking about the thing above the computer monitor - it's a decibel meter. It is to remind me to keep the volume at a reasonable level.
@@SevensPinballorama yes thank you
to be fair to the speaker comparison videos, i listen to those videos through my Beyerdynamic DT-990 Pros going into my universal audio interface running sonar works to give me a totally flat response. you actually can get a pretty distinguishable difference between all speakers in that matter. you hear the difference in the netire frequency range, due to listening through a totally neutral source.
just a thought for anyone looking to actually try and find a way to audibly hear a difference through youtube
Dt990 with flat response? Don't make laugh my ears!😆
@@jewski_boi your english is almost as bad as your reading comprehension
If you have a system you are sure is so good, why are you listening to speaker comparisons?
@@duffypratt beyers are speakers, they are reference headphones.
I mean let people hear the speakers.. Geez
Get off my lawn!!!
Get on with it. Sheesh, 11 minutes before anything happens.
Yeah. It's sort of my video style to blather on. The cool thing though is streaming isn't like watching a live broadcast. You can easily skip ahead.
OMG! This is excrutiating