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  • First Things First co-host Chris Broussard joins Colin Cowherd to discuss where Jayson Tatum ranks among NBA superstars and why the New York Knicks must add a No. 2 player next to Jalen Brunson. Brou then breaks down the Denver Nuggets' comeback and if the Minnesota Timberwolves need to make a big move if they are eliminated.
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  • @TheHerdOnFS1
    @TheHerdOnFS1  16 днів тому +2

    Check out the What’s Wright? with Nick Wright podcast: sprtspod.fox/WhatsWright_YT

  • @jamesjackson8749
    @jamesjackson8749 16 днів тому +81

    Embiid has never been out of the 2nd round!😂😂

    • @thecaptain871
      @thecaptain871 16 днів тому +4

      Overrated.

    • @bjyoungyoutubeG4
      @bjyoungyoutubeG4 16 днів тому

      EMBIID IM TURNING THIS IS NONE SENSE

    • @bjyoungyoutubeG4
      @bjyoungyoutubeG4 16 днів тому +1

      DONT LISTEN TO PEOPLE THEY 😂 DUMB SENIAL
      THEY DONT WANNASEE NOW

    • @bjyoungyoutubeG4
      @bjyoungyoutubeG4 16 днів тому

      COLIN KEEP IT UP 😂

    • @mikehunt40
      @mikehunt40 15 днів тому

      He's never really been healthy in the playoffs, but I get what you mean, and yeah no.

  • @TCrimson05t
    @TCrimson05t 16 днів тому +16

    These pundits are absolutely insane. Lol 😂

  • @kwilliams1958
    @kwilliams1958 15 днів тому +18

    What Tatum is lacking is the perception of the same ol' analysis in May and June. Any GM in the league worth any salt would be more than ready to have Tatum. This Tatum Media narrative is jaded and trite.

    • @milidagoat1630
      @milidagoat1630 15 днів тому

      ong just all recency bias man especially with ant man and well deserved that man killin' it! footwork, all out game man love it

    • @Youngmexico72
      @Youngmexico72 15 днів тому

      Tatum not even top ten but wanna be talked and praised like it

    • @Youngmexico72
      @Youngmexico72 15 днів тому

      AD, Ant, Ja Morant, Shai, Luka, Jokic, kawhi , Lebron , Steph, Brunson those are just off the top of my head guys I’d rather have then tatum the regular season stat guy

    • @timsweeney684
      @timsweeney684 15 днів тому +4

      @@Youngmexico72Tatum is better than all of those players except Luka and jokic lol

    • @emilem12
      @emilem12 12 днів тому +1

      ⁠@@Youngmexico72been to the ECF as the main scoring option 6 times now has made a finals as the main guy. Lebron was horrible in his first finals appearance, AD was a regular season star as a number one option. JA is never healthy, Shai is showing he ain’t that guy right now, Ant is on an absolutely stacked team and still won’t make it out of the 2nd round. Tatum at 23 dropped 46 against the defending champs on their home court in an elimination game then closed them out in 7. Played through a wrist injury in the finals that required surgery but no one seems to want to mention that. Take all those guys be my guest Celtics fans will enjoy seeing Tatum in the finals or conference finals every year for the foreseeable future lol

  • @beazy3364
    @beazy3364 15 днів тому +25

    They want every player to scream and beat on their chest after making a shot. Tatum is definitely a superstar.

    • @SK-ni9xi
      @SK-ni9xi 15 днів тому +7

      Because he is not loud and not ghetto. They belittle him

    • @KpNevsdad27
      @KpNevsdad27 15 днів тому

      Exactly

    • @buffalobilly6046
      @buffalobilly6046 15 днів тому

      The NBA cannot afford to have Ja Morant and his type to become superstars. A ton of people (including me) will just stop watching. If they keep putting him in front of a mic, the league will be hurt. Yes, a certain demographic loves him, but multi-billion dollar TV contracts demand wide audiences, and Ja is a turn-off for > 75% of viewers.

    • @beazy3364
      @beazy3364 15 днів тому +1

      @@buffalobilly6046 That seems racial af not gonna lie.

    • @Secarstra777
      @Secarstra777 11 днів тому

      @@SK-ni9xileast racist Celtics fan

  • @jsintral
    @jsintral 16 днів тому +35

    So Anthony Edwards who’s won 1 series is better than Tatum 😂😂😂😂

    • @rodstudemire6966
      @rodstudemire6966 15 днів тому +12

      Eye test

    • @jayy88
      @jayy88 15 днів тому

      @@rodstudemire6966win test

    • @diamondvision6477
      @diamondvision6477 15 днів тому +3

      They're referring to his leadership capabilities

    • @mikehunt40
      @mikehunt40 15 днів тому

      ​​@@rodstudemire6966eye test f the eyes. It's about wins and only wins, and don't let anybody else tell you different.

    • @blottolotto7648
      @blottolotto7648 15 днів тому +1

      I'd take a one armed Antman over Tatum. It's just mentality

  • @user-dr8tz7ep9i
    @user-dr8tz7ep9i 14 днів тому +4

    These dudes acting like missing Randle and OG missing isn’t a big deal but other teams injuries matter the national media Knicks hate is absurd. Brunson has and always will be a more efficient and better floor general than Trae young.

    • @dracowuhan7536
      @dracowuhan7536 10 днів тому

      i dont think anyone disagreees lol whos saying trae is better than jalen brunson??

  • @seanisabel
    @seanisabel 15 днів тому +7

    How about now they are up 3-1 in the series against Cleveland. And Ant has done it one year and Tatum has done it for 5 or 6. He is #5 or 6,and if he gets a ring this year,he will be top 3 or 4 of the top players. I'm tired of all the hate he gets for nonsense reasons.

    • @Youngmexico72
      @Youngmexico72 15 днів тому

      He isn’t 5 or 6 he’s not even top ten

    • @kevinchafin6102
      @kevinchafin6102 15 днів тому

      Name 10 players better then tatum

    • @thevishyfishy
      @thevishyfishy 15 днів тому

      @@Youngmexico72 you are a clown

    • @j.r.3945
      @j.r.3945 14 днів тому

      Can’t believe he’s only 19

  • @Sheenovastee
    @Sheenovastee 16 днів тому +30

    So sick of people putting Embiid over Tatum.

    • @liamberry43
      @liamberry43 16 днів тому +4

      Give Embiid Tatums rosters and he has 5 rings bozo

    • @crustylust3490
      @crustylust3490 16 днів тому +10

      @@liamberry43 Come on bruh you gotta have better troll bait than that 👹

    • @samuelgaona7196
      @samuelgaona7196 16 днів тому

      Embiid averages more points blocks and rebounds and is as good a defender if not better, he also doesn't have the best roster in the league like Tatum

    • @xavierb9061
      @xavierb9061 16 днів тому

      Playing with maxey lowry backcourt

    • @OscarUnrated
      @OscarUnrated 15 днів тому +1

      Embiid is definitely better in the regular season. Playoffs idk, Embiid is a loser but Tatum's stats are way worse than Embiids this postseason

  • @masonkim7
    @masonkim7 15 днів тому +7

    as a Knicks fan, please NO DURANT!!!
    get more solid role players.

    • @banditonehundred
      @banditonehundred 15 днів тому

      Thibs will break KD

    • @j.r.3945
      @j.r.3945 14 днів тому

      Yeah KD is only getting older and he doesn’t fit the culture

    • @lnnrt0161
      @lnnrt0161 14 днів тому

      Nah they should go for an impact player imo but I‘m not sure if KD is the right call at this point in his career

  • @tivenkershaw2578
    @tivenkershaw2578 15 днів тому +1

    The Tatum slander is crazy😂😂

  • @dubdub680
    @dubdub680 16 днів тому +16

    They don't even mention luka among the superstars in the league, brou mentioned ant but not luka, these "media" people hate luka

    • @mikehunt40
      @mikehunt40 15 днів тому +3

      Yeah it's a conspiracy against luka. Relax guy who cares.

    • @sweetyd
      @sweetyd 15 днів тому +3

      What? Nick Wright is the biggest Luka fan on earth.

    • @darby4558
      @darby4558 15 днів тому +2

      Brou voted Luka for MVP lol.

    • @domodoeslife4741
      @domodoeslife4741 15 днів тому +2

      Luka is already above Tatum. SGA might have overtaken Tatum this year

    • @mikehunt40
      @mikehunt40 15 днів тому +3

      @@domodoeslife4741 tatum played over 100 playoff games. How many luka played? Tatum also has the most points, and most playoff games since he got in the league.
      According to winning luka and sga ain't even close to tatum. Tatum is also 4-2 vs Shai, and 6-5 vs luka. Those would be winning records against them.

  • @steveee_
    @steveee_ 15 днів тому +2

    “a kobe, an ant, or a mj” NASTY WORK🤣🤣🤣🤣 END DAYTIME TV

    • @j.r.3945
      @j.r.3945 14 днів тому

      Fr I love ant but bruh just got started and hasn’t reallyyyy done anything yet as talented as he is we can’t talk about him in the same breath as those guys. Like I think he does look and play like Mike but he is notttt Mike not even close. Hopefully he can get there

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 11 днів тому

      @@j.r.3945 Ant has the team to start winning rings earlier than those all timers. Then to make him the face of the league by the media is to deny that he's playing with an all-star in KAT and the DPotY in Gobert.

    • @j.r.3945
      @j.r.3945 10 днів тому

      @@penkima4923 he hasn’t done it yet tho

  • @nicklopez1305
    @nicklopez1305 16 днів тому +18

    "yea sure tatum has had all the success and the big playoff performances and the first team all nba's etc etc... but I just don't really like him for some reason so i'll say he's worse than those other guys" - Broussard

    • @Trill_Tour
      @Trill_Tour 15 днів тому

      A lot of players have had big playoff performances. Tatum's stats in the playoffs are not remotely that of a superstar. He's never shot above 45% in a playoff run

    • @M3333C
      @M3333C 15 днів тому +6

      ⁠@@Trill_Tourcompletely delusional 🤣 11-4 in elimination games, 26/8/5, 56TS%… 5-2 in game 7s, 28/9/6, 58 TS%… and now just entering his prime. Stay delusional

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 11 днів тому

      @@M3333C Overall, Tatum isn't putting up superstar numbers in the playoffs.

    • @M3333C
      @M3333C 11 днів тому

      @@penkima4923 Tatum was just the 2nd player ever in a playoff series to lead both teams in points rebounds assists steals and blocks. Only Lebron in 2016 did it too

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 11 днів тому

      ​@@M3333C Yeah, the East has been trash for that long. It's not real playoff basketball.

  • @robertbroadbent2522
    @robertbroadbent2522 15 днів тому +2

    Broussard really copy pasted words from Draymond Green comparing the Knicks to Hawks and Blazers. Such a lazy response, get this guy out of here.

  • @SportsandTrueCrime
    @SportsandTrueCrime 15 днів тому +2

    As a die hard Knicks fan, Im luvin this postseason but I’m not delusional about them winning da 🏆. These analysts get me 😡 😤 when they keep sayin this @4:10. There isn’t a single team more banged up and injured than the Knicks. 3...count ‘em...3 of our starters (including our franchise) and 2 benches r out yet they’re still grinding. Imagine the Nuggets making to to finals without Jokic, Murray & Gordon. How bout the Wolves without Edwards, Kat & Gobert.

  • @jacobgroth519
    @jacobgroth519 16 днів тому +8

    Do days ago he said the Pacers were trash 😂

  • @saynomoremedia7463
    @saynomoremedia7463 16 днів тому +12

    This kinda talk is crazy coming after a win Tatum hate is so far

    • @OscarUnrated
      @OscarUnrated 15 днів тому +2

      cause he's averaging 23.7 points, 7.8 rebounds, and 4.6 assists shooting 41% and 26.5% from three

    • @bplayerr1
      @bplayerr1 15 днів тому +1

      Bruh... take off the blinders

    • @blottolotto7648
      @blottolotto7648 15 днів тому

      Only team the Boston Charmins can take out the west right now is prob OKC. So tatum is most likely gonna come up short again cause OKC aint gonna make it out

    • @zuhayrakhan
      @zuhayrakhan 15 днів тому

      @@OscarUnrated Jayson Tatum has averaged 24 points, 10 rebounds and 5 assists. His efficiency is bad, but he actually defends unlike most superstars in the league.

  • @lhamarurbina9549
    @lhamarurbina9549 15 днів тому +2

    Can someone plz tell me what exactly Broussard knows about sports… what is that man babbling about?

  • @craigplumlee
    @craigplumlee 15 днів тому +3

    I like Broussard so why is he always yelling at me?

  • @vision8641
    @vision8641 16 днів тому +10

    Trae young has not had a better career than Brunson.

    • @OscarUnrated
      @OscarUnrated 15 днів тому +2

      he said trae's career up to that conference finals run (when trae was 22)

    • @haydennyagah706
      @haydennyagah706 15 днів тому +1

      Yes he has.....

    • @mikehunt40
      @mikehunt40 15 днів тому

      I would definitely take trea over Brunson.

  • @helbingstein8429
    @helbingstein8429 15 днів тому +1

    Don't fck with Gru, take that pipe and smoke it slick Rick

  • @TheRealJayson3
    @TheRealJayson3 12 днів тому

    JT doesn’t have that killer instinct

  • @mtadams2009
    @mtadams2009 11 днів тому

    What funny is if Tatum and the Celtics win a title everything changes. At this point when the Celtics win it’s treated like a loss.

  • @andellbrown1239
    @andellbrown1239 14 днів тому

    The Knicks finished 2 in the East while dealing with injuries to many of their starters. The culture and smart trades has brought out the best in the players on the team. They have progressed to this point while missing an All NBA-All Star player. The Knicks current roster when healthy can contend for a Championship.

    • @Realest2fye
      @Realest2fye 13 днів тому

      Exactly Chris is loss he said we only made because other teams were injured but so were we he’s dumb asf

  • @thabomahlangu8041
    @thabomahlangu8041 15 днів тому +1

    Trae Young has had a better Basketball career than Jalen Brunson 🤣

    • @j.r.3945
      @j.r.3945 14 днів тому

      Only bc he had wayyyy more opportunities. JB is finally getting a shot and has been outstanding. CB trying to use his where he was drafted as something against him for some reason but his arguments are so flawed

  • @skincarver1797
    @skincarver1797 16 днів тому +1

    Colin called the Pacers "posers, frauds and fakers" last week but now he's like yeah the Pacers blowing them out by 32pts to tie the series was inevitable wtf? 😂

  • @Bbq643
    @Bbq643 12 днів тому

    So if the knicks make the conference finals it doesn’t mean they are a championship team, because Milwaukee and Philly teams had injured players. Meanwhile Boston is a championship team despite making the eastern conference finals like 4 times in past 6 years, no championship, and playing an injured Miami and Milwaukee team this playoffs

  • @Youngmexico72
    @Youngmexico72 15 днів тому

    Brou is Tatum on the herd but he’s Anthony Edward’s on first things first

  • @buckwyld218
    @buckwyld218 15 днів тому

    KD to the knicks, would be a typical new york move. Aging player goes to the big apple and does nothing, except drag them down. Lets do it!!

  • @sim396
    @sim396 16 днів тому +6

    Embiid is not on jokic, ant, giannis, luka, sga's level lol

    • @franjes9999
      @franjes9999 15 днів тому +3

      He isn't on Tatum's level, his mickey mouse MVP doesn't change that the Celtics, Heat and Hawks all own him

    • @kassobrien4395
      @kassobrien4395 15 днів тому

      He absolutely is are you high?

  • @gswvera6853
    @gswvera6853 11 днів тому

    Is this thee Uncle Colin? Lol

  • @fundraiser6038
    @fundraiser6038 15 днів тому

    Jimmy to the knicks

  • @javiers.3433
    @javiers.3433 10 днів тому

    Luck ????????
    Randle hurt
    Mitch hurt
    Bogy hurt
    Lucky ??? If you handicap bucks due to injury then the same for the Knicks

  • @bryon5284
    @bryon5284 16 днів тому +2

    Ant and Durant is a wrap

    • @kiingphresh9328
      @kiingphresh9328 16 днів тому +1

      Kat & Booker…. Ant & Durant

    • @bplayerr1
      @bplayerr1 15 днів тому +1

      ​@@kiingphresh9328Kat and Booker are a play in team

    • @kiingphresh9328
      @kiingphresh9328 15 днів тому

      @@bplayerr1 🤷🏾‍♂️😭they can turn it into Kentucky Wildcats all over again

  • @pendletondrew
    @pendletondrew 13 днів тому

    🧢🧢🧢🧢 🧢🧢🧢 Y'all are mistaking arrogance for killer instinct

  • @kennystar9075
    @kennystar9075 11 днів тому

    Ja passed Tatum? What world is he living in?

  • @tomek6132
    @tomek6132 15 днів тому +1

    The Knicks have a #2 star… he’s out for the season

  • @calebford6318
    @calebford6318 16 днів тому +1

    Durant for towns, which team says no? Seriously…. both teams get better.

    • @blottolotto7648
      @blottolotto7648 15 днів тому

      Phoenix? Minni prob gonna have to sweeten the deal for that one

  • @tusharrathi226
    @tusharrathi226 14 днів тому

    Tatum is top 5.

  • @djkido316
    @djkido316 15 днів тому

    Edwards wins one series and now he has beyond Tatum,Luka,Morant,Booker yeah whatever lol.

  • @victorjackson1551
    @victorjackson1551 15 днів тому

    Who tf thought ja morant was better than Tatum
    Smh I swear these sports media get dumber by the year

  • @fundraiser6038
    @fundraiser6038 15 днів тому

    How are ja and Ant passed Tatum? One minute it’s about winning and the next it’s about hype. If Tatum is not a superstar for not winning why is it different for ant and ja?

  • @JohnCutajarDynamicBeliefs
    @JohnCutajarDynamicBeliefs 15 днів тому

    Last thing the Knicks should do is listen to this guy. Splash on draft and get the Net Villanova guy.

  • @MarshalStockton
    @MarshalStockton 16 днів тому

    Its not hard, NYK really desperately needs depth because Thibs plays few players? Cant have a salary cap anchor like Durant then, need depth around Brunson and his Nova crew

  • @Clyde92
    @Clyde92 13 днів тому

    Tatum is more choker than superstar.

  • @will3pr
    @will3pr 16 днів тому

    I say going into Game 5 start Naz Reid over KAT. If I’m crazy then I’m crazy but you gotta give the guy who’s playing more efficient in this series the start and then KAT can lead the 2nd unit. At least for this series.

  • @riggz46
    @riggz46 15 днів тому

    Another guy? Our 2nd guy is hurt. We have 3 out of 5 starters out. Our depth is starting right now. These guys dont watch NYC.
    All we have to do resign OG and see what BK wants for Mikal Bridges. Keep that Villanova grit going

  • @kingcorey2987
    @kingcorey2987 12 днів тому

    These guys are confusing explosiveness and flair andnhsing that to establish what a superstar is. Embiid is a superstar but hasnt been oit the second round and has played with more big names than Tatum but somehow they think hes better. Anthony Edwards is playing with a 4x dpoy

  • @devanshutrivedi9221
    @devanshutrivedi9221 15 днів тому

    There's only Giannis Joker ahead of tatum and when he wins a ring he'll be in that bracket

  • @earlgarris149
    @earlgarris149 16 днів тому

    I'm sorry the Knicks are on a upward projection. We not Atlanta

  • @mrhollister8520
    @mrhollister8520 12 днів тому

    Did Broussard just rank Embiid over Tatum and call him a superstar?? Dude has never got out the semi’s

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 11 днів тому

      Embiid won an MVP. Tatum hasn't been close to that, and playing on a stacked team doesn't make him a superstar.

    • @mrhollister8520
      @mrhollister8520 11 днів тому

      @@penkima4923 neither player is a superstar

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 11 днів тому

      @@mrhollister8520 Embiid is a superstar. Tatum isn't, as of now in the 2nd playoff round.

  • @CosmoKramer34
    @CosmoKramer34 16 днів тому +2

    Embiid cannot be included in the top tier. he’s good but more like a top 10 ish player. Tatum is obviously above him unless you’re nuts. I don’t get it with embiid, he escapes criticism constantly and doesn’t use his size to his advantage, and shrinks in the playoffs. He has great stats in the regular season, that’s it.

  • @TiggerLyOne
    @TiggerLyOne 15 днів тому

    Because Tatum is a Dukie! They produce great role players and occasional "stars". They may be amazing people too, but they all lack "heart".

  • @Keller1359
    @Keller1359 15 днів тому

    Tatum is more KD than Kobe

  • @zagonialpar9208
    @zagonialpar9208 16 днів тому

    Yeah sure, the knicks should trade half their team for a guy who has failed to win anywhere except with an already championship contender team without him, who everywhere he goes seems to not be happy. Trading for KD would be a mistake. Also Brunson is simply better than Trey Young.

  • @kiingphresh9328
    @kiingphresh9328 16 днів тому

    Ant gotta get off the ball , faster …. He need Gobert defense , so you gotta give the big fella the ball , if you want him to play defense 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @hogrider5059
    @hogrider5059 15 днів тому

    "ANT needs help"
    KAT All Star
    Gobert 4x DPOY
    Naz 6th Man of the Year
    Mike Conley Solid Starter
    Finch COTY Finalists
    Jokic Help
    Jamal 0 All Star
    MPJ MAGA
    AG 2x Dunk contest robbed
    KCP Traded by LeBron
    Mike Malone Lakers Daddy

  • @mikeclark7026
    @mikeclark7026 16 днів тому

    He DOESN’T!!!

  • @teemartin6185
    @teemartin6185 16 днів тому +3

    KD for Randle & a #1

  • @pfunk1992
    @pfunk1992 13 днів тому

    Minnesota not winning Chris

  • @Daewonnni
    @Daewonnni 16 днів тому

    Durant doesn’t effect winning

  • @GreaterSociety
    @GreaterSociety 14 днів тому

    Chris thijks Trey has a better career than Brunson

    • @Realest2fye
      @Realest2fye 13 днів тому

      Yeah he’s a Knicks hater and clearly watch no one but bron

  • @lukegreen5714
    @lukegreen5714 День тому

    Tatum is the most overrated player in the NBA. I don't see it and I don't get it. Let's see how he fares against a West team.

  • @justinchapin9789
    @justinchapin9789 11 днів тому

    Im bracing for some horrible takes…

  • @WonderBoy2811
    @WonderBoy2811 16 днів тому

    Two guys that don’t watch basketball

  • @notnyce
    @notnyce 16 днів тому +1

    I been saying it for 5 years NOW....Tatum is all talent no heart

  • @melvinguz11
    @melvinguz11 16 днів тому

    😮

  • @ncg25out
    @ncg25out 15 днів тому

    Tatum reminds me of Kobe, both overrated AF .

  • @robertriteman3227
    @robertriteman3227 15 днів тому +1

    Tatum is a very good player but also far from being a superstar. Everyone needs some perspective

  • @capedbaldysaitama6712
    @capedbaldysaitama6712 11 днів тому

    he is just too boring

  • @matthewwong3821
    @matthewwong3821 16 днів тому

    Sign and trade Paul George for KAT and picks or another role player

  • @mikeclark7026
    @mikeclark7026 16 днів тому

    He ISN’T. Well that was easy enough

  • @KevinHernandez-qz8sb
    @KevinHernandez-qz8sb 16 днів тому

    KD washed. Knicks need Donovan Mitchell. 👀

  • @peakviewmusic
    @peakviewmusic 16 днів тому +1

    1. Jokic
    2. Antman
    3. SGA
    4. Luka
    5. Joel
    6. Brunson
    7. Giannis
    8. Dame
    9. Tatum

    • @timsweeney684
      @timsweeney684 15 днів тому +2

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Brunson, Dame, Ant and SGA over Tatum is funny

  • @bjyoungyoutubeG4
    @bjyoungyoutubeG4 16 днів тому

    BJ YOUNG GONE U CHRIS & COLIN
    WHY YALL WANT ATTENTION EMBIID😂😂