Kozilek vs Prosper vs Korvold vs Jetmir | CEDH Gameplay

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  • @mikemoyer8162
    @mikemoyer8162 Рік тому +30

    I gotta say: counterbalance with top-of-library tutors might be the greatest and most evil thing I've seen in a while. I love it.

  • @edac_plays6259
    @edac_plays6259 Рік тому +5

    The bag shown I’ve used for 2ish years now and it’s been awesome. No rips tears or issues.
    The smaller pouch in the front also can fit the ultimate guard 4-pocket binder. The two pockets on either side can fit a monster playmat tube and hold them securely.

  • @dequan426
    @dequan426 Рік тому +70

    For all those wondering about the stickers:
    It’s my coding system for my cedh cube. I can switch decks in between games. And it saves me money, so I don’t have to keep buying cards. My playgroup has since adapted the idea. I guess I’m pretty influential lol.

    • @SaltServingServo
      @SaltServingServo Рік тому

      Im interested on that, o how many cards you have total on the said cube?

    • @dequan426
      @dequan426 Рік тому +2

      @@SaltServingServo I actually have 3 individual cubes.
      Cube 1- 320 cards
      Cube 2 - 240 cards
      Cube 3 - 300 cards
      24 decks total.

    • @ShadowWasntHere8433
      @ShadowWasntHere8433 Рік тому +3

      Why not just get proxies from MPC or something similar - Yea it'll cost a few extra $$ but it saves a lot of time in the end

    • @dequan426
      @dequan426 Рік тому

      @@ShadowWasntHere8433 Because I also sell cards on Facebook, and I prefer things that have resell ability.

    • @kristiansy9407
      @kristiansy9407 Рік тому

      are the stickers really thin? won't they damage the cards overtime when pressed against each other when stored? kinda wanna adapt this strategy

  • @DolphinDingus
    @DolphinDingus Рік тому +22

    Kozilek AND Aminatou? I feel spoiled!
    Also feel like Ouphe was the mvc in that first game.

  • @StackedEDH
    @StackedEDH Рік тому +11

    Kozilek was the first Commander deck I built from scratch. We love to see it!

  • @dequan426
    @dequan426 Рік тому +112

    If y’all wouldn’t mind, analyze the 2nd game for me. I feel like I could have won, what could I have done differently?

    • @DefCatofficial
      @DefCatofficial Рік тому +25

      recast docside before you killed Kev via reanimate then tutored another way to flicker dock side or draw cards

    • @bryantan4228
      @bryantan4228 Рік тому +17

      Could you have just not killed Kevin and just held Aetherflux as a sword hanging over everyone’s head? If you are really worried you can kill Kevin on Jay’s end step, though most of Kevin’s interaction doesn’t work on colorless things

    • @dequan426
      @dequan426 Рік тому +16

      @@DefCatofficial I had to get around that grafdiggers cage, I couldn’t reanimate dockside. I think I should have cast Aminatou, and flickered dockside.

    • @dequan426
      @dequan426 Рік тому +7

      @@bryantan4228 I did think about that. I don’t Remeber exactly why, but I’m sure it had something to do with Kevin recasting Kozilek, drawing the cards and being able to counter stuff. Kozilek is a HUGE threat and Kevin is a great player. But I could have just been being too cautious.

    • @DefCatofficial
      @DefCatofficial Рік тому +2

      @@bryantan4228 ohhhhh right, damn

  • @Kozi15
    @Kozi15 Рік тому +47

    Wow is this Turbo Kozilek getting the recognition? 👌

    • @dequan426
      @dequan426 Рік тому +12

      We were all terrified by Kozilek haha.

    • @Ajn37MNm39fgyt7u
      @Ajn37MNm39fgyt7u Рік тому +5

      @@dequan426 You were the MVP on the counterbalance triggers with the back to back tutors 🤣

    • @Murkglow
      @Murkglow Рік тому

      Usually you use the original Kozilek though for the Annihilator 4.

    • @Ajn37MNm39fgyt7u
      @Ajn37MNm39fgyt7u Рік тому +1

      @Murkglow The point is the draw and counter. The annihilator trigger isn't really a CEDH mechanic in a 4 player game.

    • @Murkglow
      @Murkglow Рік тому

      @@Ajn37MNm39fgyt7u Eh, this is not a new deck. It was heavily played and built back in the day (like a decade ago, so admittedly not in a modern cedh meta). Original Kozilek vs Kozilek 2.0 was heavily tested and debated. The draw usually ends up very similar between the two and the counter is usually weaker than Annihilator from everything I've seen and read regarding the deck. By all means though, I would be happy to hear why the counter ability makes the difference in a deck that needs all the cards it can get to be cheap mana rocks to play out its commander repeatedly. If anything, the Annihilator 4 seemed to me the only reason the deck ever worked to begin with.
      Just taking this one set of games, the counter did nothing meaningful (protected Semblance Anvil which was not a meaningful or useful card to begin with) while Annihilator would have stopped Prosper from winning (killing all his permanents). Might not have got them the win in the end (depending on if Aminatou could win on their turn) but it certainly would have given the Kozilek player more chance to win. Of course this is a laughably small set of data to draw conclusions from. That said, sac four seems plenty meaningful in most situations.

  • @pandogrover4120
    @pandogrover4120 Рік тому +7

    Loved to see a Kozilek deck on a CEDH game ❤

  • @dead_night2293
    @dead_night2293 Рік тому +4

    I have that bag and I absolutely love it, it works perfectly for anyone who needs a bag for lots of decks, it holds the clear cubes as well as large deck boxes. I love that bag and i recommend it to anyone who needs a bag

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy Рік тому +19

    Man that collector oophe really shut down kozilek!
    Great finish on that second game!

  • @DefCatofficial
    @DefCatofficial Рік тому +24

    Kevin's Decks are always awesome and stunning, those signitures are great

    • @Nachtjagerz
      @Nachtjagerz Рік тому

      He literrally did noyhing during did nothing during 90% of the first game lmao

  • @kylehill
    @kylehill Рік тому +2

    Why the stickers?

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  Рік тому

      They have a Cedh box filled with common cedh staples. They can assemble many decks out of this box. They use the stickers to quickly assemble the decks.

  • @MexiPerplexi
    @MexiPerplexi Рік тому +7

    I know it'll probably be a lot of extra work with video making, but is there any way you guys could add a tracker for the number of cards in each player's hands? I often find myself wondering how much people are holding.

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  Рік тому +19

      We did that a long time ago. It added HOURS of extra work to every game for a very small gain. We had to chop something to keep the turnaround times reasonable, and the hand size tracker was the thing that ended up having to go.

  • @fosterdawson7339
    @fosterdawson7339 Рік тому +7

    DeQuan doing some work in game 2

  • @galahadtg7884
    @galahadtg7884 Рік тому +1

    I absolutely LOVE seeing wildcard brews like that! Hopefully one day i get to challange you guys with my Zaxara turbo ad naus list

  • @Death_by_Tech
    @Death_by_Tech Рік тому +1

    I can’t believe how many times I thought game 1 was already over but it kept going

  • @windy7820
    @windy7820 Рік тому +5

    I’ll never complain about Aetherflux killing the whole table. Love that card, even if it’s considered dead and bad nowadays because Breach exists.

  • @dtnuh
    @dtnuh Рік тому +1

    We love to see these non-typical games, GGs!

  • @Melissanoma
    @Melissanoma Рік тому +3

    Why did Alan cast Burnt Offering at 5:54? He spent 1 black mana to cast the spell and got 1 black from it resolving so the only effect was Viscera Seer died for nothing? Other than adding +1 storm but he didn't play a storm spell.

    • @collinbeal
      @collinbeal Рік тому

      He was already screwed anyways, so was probably just playing out his hand. It's a bad habit of mine, too.

  • @noahsaari9094
    @noahsaari9094 Рік тому +1

    Been using the backpack for two years and if you’re an enfranchised player without a similar implement, I simply urge you to consider this, it’s seriously amazing.

  • @Frommerman
    @Frommerman Рік тому +1

    I like the product placement every time someone plays Dockside. Way better than the sponsored segments in literally every video these days.
    (No hate for having sponsors. Gotta get that bag somehow, capitalism is just the death of art)

  • @Joltfire95
    @Joltfire95 Рік тому +1

    The life totals at the end of the game... nice

  • @jerryblack7945
    @jerryblack7945 Рік тому

    WOW! IMPRESSIVE DECKS AND STRATEGIES!

  • @saxyman98
    @saxyman98 Рік тому +2

    Is there a decklist error for the Kozilek list?
    There is a sundering titan in there lol

  • @zut8448
    @zut8448 Рік тому

    What on earth was going on with Kevins life at around 8:55 😂 up down up down up down!

  • @jamescoulter267
    @jamescoulter267 Рік тому +3

    Aethflux doing some work this video

  • @brandonmoore4651
    @brandonmoore4651 Рік тому +1

    Watch y’all every time y’all drop a new video

  • @jcjackson9367
    @jcjackson9367 Рік тому

    I want that 5 color mana tracker Jay is using @11:38. Did yall make that custom or buy it from somewhere? Would help replace 5 cards with 1 in my token deckbox.

  • @keelangilmour2511
    @keelangilmour2511 Рік тому +1

    Jay ended on such a nice number. Nice

  • @tsorf98
    @tsorf98 Рік тому

    What’s with the dots on the card sleeves on kevins and dequans

  • @Chase0313
    @Chase0313 Рік тому

    Out of curiosity, what does those circular stickers on the players cards?

  • @Fyrwulf
    @Fyrwulf Рік тому +1

    Unless I'm misremembering how Doomsday works, you lose half your life rounded up. So, he shouldn't have "gone out on his own terms".

  • @angellopez6475
    @angellopez6475 Рік тому

    How did reanimate target dockside extortionist? Wasnt it exiled as well?

  • @EspeonGaming0
    @EspeonGaming0 Рік тому +1

    I never thought I’d hear “Aggro” and “Stax” in the same breath

    • @GuiDragon1
      @GuiDragon1 Рік тому +1

      What do you mean? Literally the only way to play aggro in cedh is by playing stax...

    • @EspeonGaming0
      @EspeonGaming0 Рік тому

      I mean. I've never been a cedh player or really cared about cedh in general until recently. And "Aggro" and "Stax" in a more casualish environment don't go together

    • @EspeonGaming0
      @EspeonGaming0 Рік тому

      It’s just very weird for me to hear in the same sentence

  • @JusticeShines
    @JusticeShines Рік тому

    Where was the Sword of playmate acquired from?

  • @nathanlaszlo611
    @nathanlaszlo611 Рік тому +1

    Does anyone know where to get the tokens they used to track floating mana?

  • @TopGunner4411
    @TopGunner4411 Рік тому

    I'd love to see a video explaining the sticker-dot system. Are all the cards double sleeved and the stickers are on the inner sleeve? Are all the dots generally in the same spot based on their colour? I also have to assume there is something like a crib sheet which explains the decks?

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  Рік тому +4

      At this point, we might just do that. We get a lot of questions about it.

  • @MrAvatarzan
    @MrAvatarzan Рік тому

    Void Mirror is pretty killer against Kozilek, forces them to maindeck outs like Urborg and Yavimaya

    • @ShinkuDragon
      @ShinkuDragon Рік тому

      Not really, any rock or land fhat can produce a color and you're good to go. And it doesn't do much against most other decks either so it's usually a bad slot

  • @chrisedward9161
    @chrisedward9161 Рік тому

    That backpack is epic😮I'm getting one

  • @scottgerk7627
    @scottgerk7627 Рік тому

    What are those stickers on y'all's cards?

  • @cax1175
    @cax1175 Рік тому

    Why is the Kozilek deck playing Mox Amber? It can't create colorless off the Eldrazi titans or colorless planeswalkers

  • @want2bfrst75
    @want2bfrst75 Рік тому

    my question is where did alan get his playmat

  • @Havlark
    @Havlark Рік тому +1

    i own that bag and can confirm its absolutely great

  • @Loco231
    @Loco231 Рік тому

    Wouldn't Tainted Pact get countered by Counter Balance with Lim Dul's Vault on top?

  • @kk199727
    @kk199727 Рік тому

    whats all the dots on the cards ?

  • @chandlermiller3944
    @chandlermiller3944 Рік тому

    I really feel like game 1 collector ouphe takes MVP. It shut down the rocks on board and everyone else struggled to find enough mana.

  • @CacZarn
    @CacZarn Рік тому +4

    Love me some aetherflux wins

  • @gameboywolf
    @gameboywolf Рік тому

    What are the different colored stickers on the cards represent?

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  Рік тому

      Commander Box! It's a way to have only one copy of a card, but use it in multiple decks. It's an easy way to assemble a deck.

    • @gameboywolf
      @gameboywolf Рік тому

      ​@@PlayingWithPowerMTG oh, okay. Thank you!

  • @robertbauerle5592
    @robertbauerle5592 Рік тому

    Technically jay couldn't have killed himself with doomsday because the aetherflux reservoir would've given him 1 life, then he would've lost half of 2 and gone back to 1. He did also have an ancient tomb he could've used to kill himself tho.

  • @crovax1375
    @crovax1375 Рік тому

    Firing the laser!

  • @atcandotherthings4985
    @atcandotherthings4985 7 місяців тому

    13:51 man turn 3 ugin hurts !

  • @Pim-Emporix
    @Pim-Emporix Рік тому

    omg i wanted to order the bag .. they dont ship outside of the USA :( ..

  • @AidanWR
    @AidanWR Рік тому

    That Culling the Weak on a 3 mana, then Burnt Offering on a 1 mana doesn't seem right. But, can't fault someone when they have that many cards in hand

  • @gordonsenger9395
    @gordonsenger9395 Рік тому +1

    What's with the stickers on everyones sleeves?

    • @jfostr0
      @jfostr0 Рік тому

      I'm also wondering this!

    • @dequan426
      @dequan426 Рік тому +1

      It’s my coding system for my cedh cube. I can switch decks in between games. And it saves me money, so I don’t have to keep buying cards.

  • @so_sick_of_flowers
    @so_sick_of_flowers Рік тому +7

    Loved seeing a set of games without blue farm.

  • @draconocor
    @draconocor Рік тому +5

    Kozilek and Jetmir??? Dafuq?

  • @elucor
    @elucor Рік тому

    Ahahahah Alan enemy for life. XD

  • @sribrogangster3267
    @sribrogangster3267 Рік тому

    Hi i build 1 deck can I send it to you and can you tel my it its wokr?

  • @erickcarjes2738
    @erickcarjes2738 Рік тому +1

    Can you please ask TCG to have a better mobile experience? It hurts to see the decklist over there

    • @erickcarjes2738
      @erickcarjes2738 Рік тому +1

      This channel has a great content, amazing editing and I just love it! I always look over the decklists to see if they can give me ideas on a High Powered EDH. Just thank you for all that quality content

  • @WushuTaz
    @WushuTaz Рік тому +3

    Okay....I'll be that guy. 69!!!

  • @curtisfarley6558
    @curtisfarley6558 Рік тому

    jetmir is the real deal huh? are we going to see more wrath effects in cedh now lol

  • @karolkurzawa3246
    @karolkurzawa3246 Рік тому

    nice games

  • @apocalypticoreos6460
    @apocalypticoreos6460 Рік тому +2

    Alan's playmat being outdated 😳

  • @williambosma8726
    @williambosma8726 Рік тому +1

    Love seeing the Jetmir win the first game!

  • @leonardoherrera8908
    @leonardoherrera8908 Рік тому

    Why didn't Kevin pay to untap his Mana Vault when he did nothing two turns in a row?

    • @Murkglow
      @Murkglow Рік тому +2

      He never had enough mana. There was a collector ouphe in play shutting down all his artifacts.

    • @leonardoherrera8908
      @leonardoherrera8908 Рік тому

      @@Murkglow Oh duh! Thanks for helping me see that

  • @n8rboy
    @n8rboy Рік тому

    Nice

  • @decio15
    @decio15 Рік тому +1

    Actually the kozilek list is pretty meh sadly, missing a lot of staple imo.

  • @Shmegg
    @Shmegg Рік тому

    Noicee

  • @MehrGills
    @MehrGills Рік тому

    In g2, wasn't the aetherflux activation early? It should have been removed from the game along with every other card that Kevin owned.
    Edit: it was not Kevin's aetherflux. Nevermind

  • @MrSeam0nk3y
    @MrSeam0nk3y Рік тому

    Kevin not paying 4 to untap the mana vault 3 turns in a row when he had nothing else to do hurt my soul to watch

    • @cuttlefish6839
      @cuttlefish6839 Рік тому

      With collector ouphe he couldn't. He also deployed his whole hand right before it came down so he was put off the game by t3

  • @DUxMORTEM
    @DUxMORTEM Рік тому +1

    That 1st game was weird and looked like everyone was kinda lost on what was going on.

    • @christopherlapp4553
      @christopherlapp4553 Рік тому

      Yeah tutors, Ad Nauseam, and no counterspells to stop them. Deserves a rewatch to see if it could have been different.

  • @benjaminstonehocker5382
    @benjaminstonehocker5382 Рік тому

    Great episode! Havent seen Aetherflux go that hard before? Is that common in CEDH? Pretty insane. Ill have to investigate the card more.

    • @collinbeal
      @collinbeal Рік тому

      In a deck that's built to explosively storm off, it's very possible, but still difficult.

  • @fallenlords3151
    @fallenlords3151 Рік тому

    alan playmat should get an update

  • @oyasumi_vanilles
    @oyasumi_vanilles Рік тому

    Also mayhem devil could killed in the last game. The reservoir was a little "to much". Even so, this gameplay was pretty good overall. I love the variety on the table and the wincons.

    • @drewhoffmaster2969
      @drewhoffmaster2969 Рік тому

      I'm honestly not sure if Mayhem Devil would've done it? The line seems a bit odd based on the table. When Mayhem Devil hit the table, the total remaining life for opponents was 63, so you would need 63 sac triggers. The line I can see that would get that would be Dockside + Culling the Weak/Burnt Offering, either or.
      There were 4 artifacts/enchantments on the battlefield, so dockside would make 4 treasures. Plus 1 from saccing the dockside gets you 5 devil triggers per loop. Based on a life total of 63, Jay would need to repeat the loop 13 times to kill. Each loop involves escaping 2 spells, so that eats 6 cards from graveyard per loop, meaning Jay would need 78 cards left in grave at that point in order to go off.
      The Stitcher's Supplier/Culling the Weak line is mana positive but card neutral, unfortunately, so it would have eaten a good portion of the library to set up. You would be able to PitA plus LED to dump cards back into the grave, but I feel the damage was already done by that point. Then again, I wasn't tracking library count, so who knows?

  • @Quelfas
    @Quelfas Рік тому

    Interesting game without Blue ~

  • @jordanderbidge532
    @jordanderbidge532 Рік тому

    Wait, that’s how you pronounce kamehameha? 😅

  • @maxsternburg1956
    @maxsternburg1956 Рік тому

    doomsday wouldnt have killed him since he would have gained a life from aetherflux first

  • @k1llampt
    @k1llampt Рік тому +1

    In the first game Jay would have gone to two life from casting doomsday due to aetherflux, then back to 1 as it resolved.

    • @DUxMORTEM
      @DUxMORTEM Рік тому +2

      Except Jay didn't control Aetherflux, Kevin did

    • @k1llampt
      @k1llampt Рік тому

      @@DUxMORTEM except when he cast it at 7:40. Maybe you should go back and watch it before commenting.

    • @DefCatofficial
      @DefCatofficial Рік тому +3

      @@k1llampt lets be nice to our fellow cedh players, we are a small community after all

  • @tizianomoreni6035
    @tizianomoreni6035 Рік тому

    Love your content but.... why Aminatou is called Animatou? Lot of people do so. Eng not my native language so it's a sincere question.

  • @psykoenda8315
    @psykoenda8315 Рік тому +1

    the kozilek deck list is illegal since it contains a Sundering Titan

  • @panzerjaeger3847
    @panzerjaeger3847 Рік тому

    Sohai play kozilek in a cedh environment 🤦‍♂️

  • @slymcfly123
    @slymcfly123 Рік тому

    He killed himself. What a clown