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  • Are Broly and Kale the TRUE Legendary SSJ's? | Dragon Ball #shorts #anime #dragonball #dragonballsuper #dragonballz #broly #goku
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  • @PumaPants248
    @PumaPants248 9 місяців тому +671

    “But why’s it green?” “That’s what makes it LEGENDARY.”- TFS

    • @burny6666
      @burny6666 9 місяців тому +23

      It's so kool, but sooo Dumb!!!

    • @RobertG-cd3ev
      @RobertG-cd3ev 9 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for sending?

    • @ChristianKirboDaPoyo
      @ChristianKirboDaPoyo 6 місяців тому +5

      OH MY GOOOD HES SO GOD DAYUM KOOL

    • @Kasoo3600
      @Kasoo3600 5 місяців тому +2

      It’s green when it’s not controlled goku went green in the movie hinting that he lost control for a second

    • @Pain_train_wielder
      @Pain_train_wielder 5 місяців тому

      “But cannons don’t drill people” “that’s what makes it SPECIAL”

  • @HawaiiVenom392
    @HawaiiVenom392 10 місяців тому +1037

    One could say it’s a blessing and curse of the warrior race.
    -whis

  • @theprotagonist1311
    @theprotagonist1311 9 місяців тому +20

    OG broly is the only one who can be called Legendary Super Saiyan. We've yet to see a Menace like him.

    • @haja.
      @haja. 9 місяців тому +2

      "we have yet to see a menace like him!"🤓

    • @KAY4ZZ
      @KAY4ZZ Місяць тому +1

      @@haja.people still using this emoji in 2023 is insane.

    • @TheCoolerBrother
      @TheCoolerBrother 12 днів тому

      @@KAY4ZZI was thinking the same thing

  • @Gwen1001
    @Gwen1001 10 місяців тому +504

    Id like to think they are, mostly cause i like the idea of the legend being true in some way. Plus it gives us a crumb of insight and backstory on this green haired form that we probobly arent going to get before the series ends for good

    • @SageIsMe21123
      @SageIsMe21123 9 місяців тому +7

      The end of this comment made me sad.

    • @YSL8704
      @YSL8704 9 місяців тому +11

      Yeah… I mean, Broly’s form is easily explainable for the Green hair, Ikari(Wrath State) has a Green color to it, so combining Green with Yellow makes his hair Greenish Yellow.

    • @2-bit567
      @2-bit567 9 місяців тому +2

      I mean, Super Saiyan is the legend itself. Also, we do have green ssj

    • @Gwen1001
      @Gwen1001 9 місяців тому +4

      @@2-bit567 ig that could be the case, but its just that it doesn't feel like one considering there are so many all at the same time you know, having only 1 green haired ssj per universe sounds like more of a legend to me

    • @YSL8704
      @YSL8704 9 місяців тому +2

      @@2-bit567 Green SSJ isn’t a thing… It was just an artistic thing in DBS Broly to spice up the transformation scenes…

  • @lazerbreaker4758
    @lazerbreaker4758 10 місяців тому +242

    i dont see any other saiyans with green ssj hair other then The Legendary Super saiyan

    • @hoshiryu
      @hoshiryu 10 місяців тому +10

      But the Legendary SSJ has Golden Hair and even achieved Ultra Instinct😅

    • @austin2593
      @austin2593 9 місяців тому +15

      @@hoshiryuthat’s a title. The form can be called lssj. Though it would make more sense to be known as a mutated saiyan instead.

    • @O.Tdagoat
      @O.Tdagoat 9 місяців тому +13

      @@hoshiryu so even in the games broly’s SSJ transformation was named LSSJ or Legendary Super Saiyan so your incorrect on all of your replies and statements about goku being the LSSJ because that’s only because goku was the first SSJ not LSSJ but they thought it was still LSSJ so they called it that until others started transforming.

    • @hoshiryu
      @hoshiryu 9 місяців тому

      @@austin2593 Broly (Z Incarnation and Xeno) is the only Saiyan who has the LSSJ Form
      The others are Mutants and the Forms have names like Berserker and Full Power (Berserk is the Form Goku got when Cumber's aura influenced him)

    • @hoshiryu
      @hoshiryu 9 місяців тому +1

      @@O.Tdagoat Goku is THE LSSJ, Broly (Z) has the FORM LSSJ

  • @UniverseElementalist
    @UniverseElementalist 9 місяців тому +18

    I think the “Legendary Super Saiyan” is a Saiyan born with an abnormal potential who can grow stronger by the second just by fighting, taking the Zenkai to a whole new level.
    This sums up Broly at least.

  • @islamdz7541
    @islamdz7541 10 місяців тому +329

    Even the normal ssj was called " the legendary super saiyan" so its just a name and i don't think akira would choose a character he didn't create to be a legend instead of goku or vegeta, " not sure about vegeta "

    • @dearstew5457
      @dearstew5457 10 місяців тому +30

      actually no you made a mistake Broly was a character Toriyama likes as not only did he create the character he even made sure to make the character canon in super, while yes Takao Koyama came up with the idea Akira made the design and went so far as to make the character canon.

    • @pdlev1324
      @pdlev1324 10 місяців тому +12

      @@dearstew5457 first, he didn't create broly
      second, he made broly canon to the fans' sake, he in fact doesn't like the idea of someone other being the legend than Goku, as he is perfectly fitting in the legend itself

    • @dearstew5457
      @dearstew5457 10 місяців тому +7

      your wrong 1st he was the one who created the design for broly now yes someone else came up with the idea for broly but Toriyama liked the idea then instantly started the design of Broly and by himself made the complete design, also your wrong again as Toriyama Literally said his favorite saiyan was either Broly or Goku@@pdlev1324

    • @LittleAl016
      @LittleAl016 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@dearstew5457 He came up with the design for Broly, yes. But it was still Koyama who created Broly.

    • @benogle4951
      @benogle4951 10 місяців тому +8

      Super Saiyan and legendary Super Saiyan are not the same thing, we don't even have in universe confirmation that what the characters have is the Super Saiyan of legend, the legendary Super Saiyan it's not a form it's a person, a Saiyan that is far beyond the potential of any normal Saiyan, hence a "super" Saiyan. It would only makes sense that the legendary super Saiyan is an individual rather than a form anyone with Saiyan DNA could use. In the film the doctor states that Broly could even end up being the legendary super Saiyan, they knew what they were doing when they wrote the film and they wouldn't have used that line of the writers didn't mean to make people think that he was the legendary super Saiyan. Then consider the fact that the title of legendary Super Saiyan is permanently linked to Broly, and the film does heavily reference the old version of the character with the green haired form and usage of that title. They specifically make a point to tell you that Broly is the legendary super Saiyan. In addition, when Vegeta first talked about the Super Saiyan the visuals were much closer aligned with the ideas of Broly rather than the super Saiyan form, the raging out of control power is exactly what we have seen with kale and both broly's. In conclusion they have named their forms different things because it's not the form that is legendary Super Saiyan, it is the individual.

  • @lunky5820
    @lunky5820 10 місяців тому +392

    I love the part where boly says "it's berkinh time" and bersked all over the place

    • @Yourmotherisrespectable
      @Yourmotherisrespectable 10 місяців тому +30

      Or when or when goku said “its spirit bombin time” and spirit bombed all over everyone

    • @holaqueasebros
      @holaqueasebros 10 місяців тому +14

      ​@@Yourmotherisrespectablehe blew it all over us

    • @CosmicMumenRider
      @CosmicMumenRider 9 місяців тому +4

      Cringe

    • @RambunctiousGoober
      @RambunctiousGoober 9 місяців тому +6

      What about when vegeta says "it's banging time" and bangs all over us?

    • @zimL614
      @zimL614 9 місяців тому +1

      Cringe(2)

  • @Drakkonemus
    @Drakkonemus 9 місяців тому +6

    OG Broly was glorious. Da real LSS

  • @vegito_st1
    @vegito_st1 10 місяців тому +45

    Yamoshi was a normal saiyan that became a super saiyan and it called legendary because he was a legend

    • @DJ-xe8cl
      @DJ-xe8cl 10 місяців тому +4

      Nah he became the first super saiyan god

    • @loadshedding_
      @loadshedding_ 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@DJ-xe8clhe was the first ssj not super ssj god?

    • @benogle4951
      @benogle4951 10 місяців тому +9

      ​@@loadshedding_no he was the first Super Saiyan God because we learn about it when they ask shenron about the Super Saiyan god ritual and we see other saiyans channel their energy to turn him into one

    • @SuperStationCr1
      @SuperStationCr1 10 місяців тому +2

      @@benogle4951 that was eventually reconned by Toriyama he's now just the Super Saiyan

    • @benogle4951
      @benogle4951 10 місяців тому +2

      @@SuperStationCr1 yes sorry I learned about that today, I hadn't had a chance to correct myself yet, seems like a really dumb change in some ways but in other ways I can see why

  • @balrogdahomie
    @balrogdahomie 10 місяців тому +27

    “They’re not called Legendary Super Saiyan in the games”
    Me, whose last DBZ game was Budokai Tenkaichi 3 on the wii: “but… he was tho.”

    • @ElHappyJuicebox
      @ElHappyJuicebox 10 місяців тому +4

      He's talking about DBS. Essentially the canon continuity. DBZ Broly can be called a God Of Destruction but whatever he's called, he's still not canon

    • @amon-zero
      @amon-zero  10 місяців тому +4

      Kale and DBS Broly aren't in Tenkaichi 3

    • @benogle4951
      @benogle4951 10 місяців тому +1

      Super Saiyan and legendary Super Saiyan are not the same thing, we don't even have in universe confirmation that what the characters have is the Super Saiyan of legend, the legendary Super Saiyan it's not a form it's a person, a Saiyan that is far beyond the potential of any normal Saiyan, hence a "super" Saiyan. It would only makes sense that the legendary super Saiyan is an individual rather than a form anyone with Saiyan DNA could use. In the film the doctor states that Broly could even end up being the legendary super Saiyan, they knew what they were doing when they wrote the film and they wouldn't have used that line of the writers didn't mean to make people think that he was the legendary super Saiyan. Then consider the fact that the title of legendary Super Saiyan is permanently linked to Broly, and the film does heavily reference the old version of the character with the green haired form and usage of that title. They specifically make a point to tell you that Broly is the legendary super Saiyan. In addition, when Vegeta first talked about the Super Saiyan the visuals were much closer aligned with the ideas of Broly rather than the super Saiyan form, the raging out of control power is exactly what we have seen with kale and both broly's. In conclusion they have named their forms different things because it's not the form that is legendary Super Saiyan, it is the individual.

    • @burny6666
      @burny6666 9 місяців тому

      Hey, I've worked as a functionality tester on the Budokai Tenkaichi 3 on the Wii.

  • @Yokarblue
    @Yokarblue 10 місяців тому +31

    I think the legendary super saiyans are just mutated saiyans, if it was such a legend then how come we dont know who was before broly, surely the previous legend was kept in history

    • @benogle4951
      @benogle4951 10 місяців тому

      Bruh we don't exactly have great info on what happened 10,000 years ago in our world so what makes you believe they would, especially since they are constantly at war so sick knowledge could have easily been destroyed if it was written anywhere and there are many reasons as to why they might not, they could have ended the bloodline and that it wasn't important to keep note of, it could be like the avatar in avatar The last Airbender where it's just sort of random, or it could have been covered up by either the Royal family or Frieza's race as a way to make sure nobody ever got any ideas about challenging them

    • @hoshiryu
      @hoshiryu 10 місяців тому +5

      You see, LSSJ is different then Broly and Kale, they are by all means Mutants

    • @Yokarblue
      @Yokarblue 10 місяців тому +3

      @@hoshiryu idk if that was ment to be sarcastic or an actual person agreeing with me

    • @benogle4951
      @benogle4951 10 місяців тому +3

      @@hoshiryu incorrect, they are the legendary super Saiyans, what on earth on you talking about

    • @maxd3str0y3r
      @maxd3str0y3r 9 місяців тому

      Well the original legendary super Saiyan was in his great ape form and ended up blowing the planet he was on up and killing himself so I'm not sure how the legend got passed down, maybe the other saiyans with him fled on a space ship and watched the planet blow up but yeah. Also there was yamoshi who went ssj god but that's not who Vegeta was referring to on namek.

  • @Foreman-pig
    @Foreman-pig 10 місяців тому +5

    The old broly was crazy in his first movie

    • @user-dv8of5qu4i
      @user-dv8of5qu4i 6 місяців тому

      I like to think old broly is kind of new brolys great grandfather

    • @AxisChurchDevotee
      @AxisChurchDevotee 13 годин тому

      And a top tier shit talker.

  • @jaxonhrbek7587
    @jaxonhrbek7587 9 місяців тому +2

    I think they refer to Broly and kales forms as “the legendary super saiyan form” because it’s said that the legendary super saiyan is consumed with rage and eventually will self-destruct w their own power like Broly and kale do. This is opposed to the normal super saiyan which doesn’t grant as crazy of a power boost but also allows the user to maintain control

  • @georgie545
    @georgie545 10 місяців тому +6

    To all the Fanboys who think Goku is the LSSJ. Look at his forms, look at the forms other saiyans have. See like 10 people using SSJ and tell me that Goku is Legendary in stature and one of a kind. Several saiyans have SSJ 1/2/3

    • @claybricks3689
      @claybricks3689 10 місяців тому +2

      Goku is the lss because he was the 1st ss to appear after over 1000 years

    • @georgie545
      @georgie545 10 місяців тому +5

      @@claybricks3689 “The legend says it only happens ONCE EVERY THOUSAND YEARS.” We hear this quote from Vegeta countless times. What is Goku the ONLY Saiyan to achieve SSJ?
      No his SSJ forms can be reached by 6/7 year olds.

  • @jeansanchez8700
    @jeansanchez8700 5 місяців тому +1

    I miss old Brolly.

  • @hoshiryu
    @hoshiryu 10 місяців тому +11

    He calls her Legendary Saiyan in the Manga, a different Continuity from the Anime
    Also Berserker, Berserk is the form Goku gets when he touches Cumber's Aura
    LSSJ grows Infinitly in Power, Berserker grows until the Body can't keep up and then just stops, Full Power grows to a certain Point because that's how much Broly can grow, like how he powered up his Final time (unless he ascends inzo a higher Level) after Shenron was summoned

    • @kokkouu
      @kokkouu 6 місяців тому

      Hero’s isn’t even canon lmao goku is the legendary super sayain or did y’all just not watch the namek saga

    • @TyshaggyGaming
      @TyshaggyGaming 3 місяці тому

      @@kokkouu Jokes on you. Canon literally doesn't exist in dragon ball. It's a multiverse made of multiple multiverse each having multiple timelines. It's a *XENOVERSE* everything in one way or another is canon in some way. If a saiyan in dbs with a tail turned golden oozaru and controlled it, *guess* *what* we'd get a ssj4, and even then, it may not be the ssj4 we know.

  • @devaughnfranklin6683
    @devaughnfranklin6683 9 місяців тому +3

    Vegeta: But Why’s It Green
    Paragus: Cause It’s Legendary
    Vegeta: OMG HES SOOO GOT DAAAMN COOL!!

    • @burny6666
      @burny6666 9 місяців тому

      But he's so dumb!!!

  • @EthanW56
    @EthanW56 10 місяців тому +2

    I don’t listen to technicalities. It’s called LSSJ and I’m sure a majority agree. It’s been called that for decades.

  • @Mysterio6942
    @Mysterio6942 8 місяців тому +1

    The only time goku didnt have enough plot armor is when legendary super saiyan was invented in dragon ball

  • @Furuta_Kyou
    @Furuta_Kyou 10 місяців тому +6

    Z BROLY STILL DA GOAT 🔥🔥

  • @impiode4821
    @impiode4821 10 місяців тому +26

    I personally go against calling Kale and super Broly LSSJs because throughout the namek saga in z, they are constantly talking about the legendary super saiyan. Several times in that saga, characters like Vegeta and Ginyu say that Goku could be the legendary super saiyan, but immediately take back what they said because he did not have the bloodlust of the legend. The same goes for Kale and super Broly, because they are not as much bloodthirsty as they are uncontrolled. Z Broly, on the other hand, knew exactly what he was doing, and enjoyed it. He had the bloodlust and power of the legend, as well as the ruthlessness and general enjoyment of watching his enemies be in despair. This is all just my take on it, but the only LSSJ that we have seen so far in my eyes is Z Broly.

    • @benogle4951
      @benogle4951 10 місяців тому +3

      Super Saiyan and legendary Super Saiyan are not the same thing, we don't even have in universe confirmation that what the characters have is the Super Saiyan of legend, the legendary Super Saiyan it's not a form it's a person, a Saiyan that is far beyond the potential of any normal Saiyan, hence a "super" Saiyan. It would only makes sense that the legendary super Saiyan is an individual rather than a form anyone with Saiyan DNA could use. In the film the doctor states that Broly could even end up being the legendary super Saiyan, they knew what they were doing when they wrote the film and they wouldn't have used that line of the writers didn't mean to make people think that he was the legendary super Saiyan. Then consider the fact that the title of legendary Super Saiyan is permanently linked to Broly, and the film does heavily reference the old version of the character with the green haired form and usage of that title. They specifically make a point to tell you that Broly is the legendary super Saiyan. In addition, when Vegeta first talked about the Super Saiyan the visuals were much closer aligned with the ideas of Broly rather than the super Saiyan form, the raging out of control power is exactly what we have seen with kale and both broly's. In conclusion they have named their forms different things because it's not the form that is legendary Super Saiyan, it is the individual.

    • @hydreigonchungus
      @hydreigonchungus 9 місяців тому +3

      ​@@benogle4951counterpoint: yo mama

    • @benogle4951
      @benogle4951 9 місяців тому

      @@hydreigonchungus go do something with your life I'm sure you have more potential than this, don't squander it like a buffoon

    • @PerfectCell937
      @PerfectCell937 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@hydreigonchunguscounter counter point: Nuh uh

  • @D3lito
    @D3lito 9 місяців тому +2

    More explainable? Broly went from Saiyan saga vegeta level to T.O.P GOD Goku in his Rage form in minutes

  • @ADL21
    @ADL21 9 місяців тому +1

    Their power overtakes their personalities and grows exponentially. Broly and Kale both fought with God Ki wielding Saiyans and matched them.

  • @DrakoDeMors
    @DrakoDeMors 9 місяців тому +1

    "HES SO DAMN COOL"
    -vegeta

    • @burny6666
      @burny6666 9 місяців тому

      But so dumb!!!

  • @Justanotherblackman
    @Justanotherblackman 9 місяців тому +3

    LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN, always and forever!

  • @MeekMallard
    @MeekMallard 9 місяців тому +1

    I dunno personally I think “the legendary supersaiyan” sounds better than “the explainable supersaiyan”

  • @gamer_timeyt1883
    @gamer_timeyt1883 4 місяці тому

    Im pretty sure it’s explained in the more recent Broly movie.
    Broly was born with more potential than any saiyan on planet vegeta, including Goku.
    Same thing could have possibly occurred with kale.
    But I also think it was like this in the original Broly movie (and don’t say Braly) but instead Broly took the power of rage during the explosion of planet vegeta saving him and his father.
    Although his title was “the LSSJ”, the other two just have amazing potential, like Gohan does.

  • @Netherwolf6100
    @Netherwolf6100 4 місяці тому +1

    Green hair, constantly growing power, ki-enhanced muscles without loss of speed, yeah that's the LSSj form. I think the only reason it's not called that in super is to keep Z Broly more unique since he was not created by Toriyama himself. But I'm still gonna call it that.

  • @Itztoxiccc
    @Itztoxiccc 10 місяців тому +1

    The reason for why they’re called the lssj is not due to the forms im pretty sure they get this title cause of they’re ability to grow more powerful with their anger it would make since dbz,dbs and kale are always angry when in they’re forms unlike goku or vegeta

    • @Itztoxiccc
      @Itztoxiccc 10 місяців тому +1

      And the legendary saiyans were thought to be raging monsters which is why broly and kale fit this name

  • @Frvnt888
    @Frvnt888 3 місяці тому

    I like Kale being the LSSJ of U6, but as for S Broly, I heard a theory his FPSSJ was Super's version of SSJ4, since it's likely a combo of Broly SSJ and his Wrathful state.

  • @Zaiiuvi
    @Zaiiuvi 9 місяців тому

    “My name is son goku.. I am the legendary super saiyan!”

  • @dchmpayne
    @dchmpayne 6 місяців тому +1

    kale was confirmed as being the LSSJ in the manga by Vegeta

  • @rashb3994
    @rashb3994 9 місяців тому

    Yeah they fit the bill. Unlimited and really uncontrollable levels of power if not for intervention.

  • @kevdoesstuff7435
    @kevdoesstuff7435 Місяць тому

    I might as well call this Super Saiyan Berserk

  • @TheCoolerBrother
    @TheCoolerBrother 12 днів тому

    This is unrelated but I actually enjoyed Blonde Broly from the second coming movie a lot more. He was smaller/leaner and since his hair was blonde he matched the other sayains aesthetic while still keeping the ancient sayain robes. Green haired Broly was a little too big for my liking as he was ridiculously buff and tall. Kale suffers the same problem but doesn’t have a traditional blonde form her version of “super sayain 1” is still a green haired version with a muscle pump. And Super Broly does have a blonde form that is slightly different since it has no pupils and since Toriyama couldn’t make up his mind on how many sayain forms there should be

  • @jonlucchargo8867
    @jonlucchargo8867 5 місяців тому

    They can access their inner power more efficiently when they go berserk through what could arguably be a form the complete opposite of ultra instinct

  • @dragon-_-yokaieditz3227
    @dragon-_-yokaieditz3227 9 місяців тому +1

    Don’t forget about trunks with his “Super Saiyan (Berserk)”

  • @jamiecartwright5720
    @jamiecartwright5720 6 місяців тому

    This is pretty simple. Brolys hair is green because the character designer wanted it to be so, you can read an interview about it. People read to much into this LSS thing, it's purely a design decision

  • @cyberlord645
    @cyberlord645 8 місяців тому

    I like goku being the ledgendary saiyan and his home on earth made him the strongest saiyan of his time unlike a normal saiyan who may have destroyed themselves through their anger

  • @affanmahdhir1793
    @affanmahdhir1793 9 місяців тому

    Saiyan race. A race whos names are inspired by Vegetables, only made the most sense the LSSJ is tinted Greenish yellow instead of golden yellow

  • @AstraFulminous
    @AstraFulminous 10 місяців тому +57

    I mean Kale has a whole story behind her super saiyan. And a mythos to back it up. IMO This how dnd campaigns are conducted. So she is absolutely the Legendary Super Saiyan as much as anyone else if not nore so cuz you have a character referencing them with well a legend.

    • @rolypolyrollie
      @rolypolyrollie 10 місяців тому +3

      L take you can read as much fandom as you want but kale is just a knockoff of broly from another universe. Broly is the legendary super saiyan alone cuz hes been in the story for idk how long. His power is limitless. Even in fusion, kale couldnt even stop Ui goku, but broly gets more powerful the longer the battle. Goku literally had to teach kefla how to reach super saiyan 2😂

    • @Gaurav_kattagyan
      @Gaurav_kattagyan 10 місяців тому +3

      @@rolypolyrolliebroly is definitely stronger. But it makes sense for there to be a legendary super sayien just like normal SSJs in universe 6. Why she is so weak compared to broly even tho normal SSJs are much stronger than when goku and vegeta first achieved the form ? Well no one knows that.

    • @asphyxia8396
      @asphyxia8396 10 місяців тому +1

      ⁠@@Gaurav_kattagyancuz poor writing

    • @223sfa6
      @223sfa6 10 місяців тому +6

      @@asphyxia8396or maybe cuz brolys older by allot and wasn’t introduced to later in the series if broly was showcased before kale she’d be stronger cuz goku would be

    • @connorfaulds80
      @connorfaulds80 10 місяців тому +2

      @@Gaurav_kattagyanhonestly I figured it was because she is a lot more timid and shy than broli is. Like broli def is shy but not near as much from what we have seen. Figured the personality could be at least a mild explanation

  • @TaidaLillazy
    @TaidaLillazy 9 місяців тому

    I always liked that theory of goku being a lssj and it makes sense kinda,
    Goku was the first (CANON‼️) person to go ssj in the saiyan race after the legend yamoshi, remember not a single one of the saiyans even knew what ss looked like until on of them, being vegeta, saw goku in the form against frieza

  • @SpartanSouls256
    @SpartanSouls256 9 місяців тому +1

    Id say they're both Mutants and the Legendary Super Saiyan. It would kind of make sense if the Legendary Super saiyan has always been a extremely rare genetic mutation that could never be directely spread because the ones with the gene always died, hence why it would take hundreds or thousands of years until the next one.
    Hell maybe Broly and Kale are the next steps in evolution for Saiyans

  • @user-lv8ps4cr7t
    @user-lv8ps4cr7t 9 місяців тому

    Goku was always, and has always been the legendary super Saiyan. It has been proven time and time again that Goku can surpass anybody he faces even if they are at the peak of what Goku thought he could do

  • @wiIIywanka
    @wiIIywanka 5 місяців тому

    It's been said before, but ill say it again. The legendary super saiyan, and the super saiyan of legends, are different legends.

  • @matthewluebbering7180
    @matthewluebbering7180 10 місяців тому

    I think of it like a myth that has cropped up around Daiyan prodigies in that it’s “talent that only appears every 1000 years” is the kind of exaggeration you her a lot in anime about such individuals

  • @ryanatkinson9864
    @ryanatkinson9864 9 місяців тому

    I think the biggest thing to take from ssj is that it is a legendary form in general. Long forgotten by its own people but still rooted in the dna. It doesn't actually take rage or a pure heart to reach it although those can be catalysts. It takes training, understanding energy control and pushing ones self to beyond natural limitations. Once this is done you can awaken latent energy inside the saiyans cells and have them exponentially increase the output of energy from a focused point. Hints why they told the universe 6 sauyans to focus all their energy into their backs.

  • @xdgamer4046
    @xdgamer4046 10 місяців тому +1

    "What do you think?"
    Well why dont we just leave it as lssj because...well...its just better.

  • @garbageparade5144
    @garbageparade5144 6 місяців тому

    The fact they go beserk just like the legend is what makes them legendary

  • @darkness5101
    @darkness5101 9 місяців тому

    I say they are because it helps explains why the two of them can keep up with Vegeta and Goku who have trained for years and have god like powers

  • @gamehood5374
    @gamehood5374 9 місяців тому

    I feel like broly is the legendary super sayian since he never really trained and yet he had all that power far more potential then anyone else

  • @ahritheninetailedfoxnaotos8246
    @ahritheninetailedfoxnaotos8246 10 місяців тому +10

    Broly and Kale would be great friends

    • @Rip_Eternal.
      @Rip_Eternal. 10 місяців тому +1

      Wrong

    • @jacknickel7765
      @jacknickel7765 10 місяців тому +4

      @@Rip_Eternal.no it’s not. They would be. They are both shy and both have a great connection to their friends and family

    • @Rip_Eternal.
      @Rip_Eternal. 10 місяців тому +1

      @@jacknickel7765 uh his family is dead 💀

    • @jacknickel7765
      @jacknickel7765 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Rip_Eternal. Yeah no shit. That’s why I said friends too. 🤡

    • @AssholeDevourer
      @AssholeDevourer 10 місяців тому +1

      You know, I can kind of see that happening😁

  • @rp9772
    @rp9772 9 місяців тому

    I still call them legendary just bc I they one of the dopest forms and z broly had that legendary drip

  • @jackmullenbach6351
    @jackmullenbach6351 3 місяці тому

    Finally, a youtuber who actually understands

  • @ssvegitox9747
    @ssvegitox9747 7 місяців тому

    "Brolly" lol 😆
    (JK man love your vids

  • @johncampbell9107
    @johncampbell9107 3 місяці тому

    Brolys potential is nearly limitless. The more he fights the stronger he gets. Very very fast

  • @dipeshgrg2877
    @dipeshgrg2877 9 місяців тому

    This makes sense why broly explodes when he got that finishing punch from goku

  • @blackandwhitewholemaster1673
    @blackandwhitewholemaster1673 9 місяців тому

    I think that legendary super sayian is when a sayian is born or just has their oozaru as a base form standard thus giving them intensive and incredible power. With having the oozaru as an base form power level that would basically be saying that they're already closer to their sayian roots. That would also explain how their power level grow immensely, but without proper control and training they end up destroying themselves.

  • @chickensquare71
    @chickensquare71 9 місяців тому +1

    Imagine if broly and kale fuse together……

    • @nydeity9100
      @nydeity9100 Місяць тому

      They should have a kid together. The must powerful fighter would be born.

  • @TheRealNexusPlayzz
    @TheRealNexusPlayzz 9 місяців тому

    "You dont understand! The Legendary Super Saiyan i fueled by a crying infant! HE IS LITERALLY A GIANT FUCKING BABY!"
    - a very wise man

  • @Divinerofdarkness
    @Divinerofdarkness 9 місяців тому

    I full on believe that the legend of the super saiyan was just the ikari state because of the rage. Whis kind of implied too that Goku, vegeta, and their kids were able to attain the yellow hair for its a "recent power they've come up with"

  • @3slicessenpai
    @3slicessenpai 4 місяці тому

    I always thought that the green haired form was a modified Super Saiyan 2, available only to the ones born with this wild "Legendary" gene.
    But since it lacks the lightning of SSJ2 and there's a SSJ3 Z Broly, I chalked it up to it actually being a Super Saiyan 1 Grade 5, hence why the games always call Green Hair Super Broly "Full Power".
    They have unlocked the quintessential wrathful facets of the Super Saiyan transformation, but it's still much too unrefined to evolve to SSJ2 or 3.

  • @indumalli8876
    @indumalli8876 5 місяців тому

    Goku is lssj being goku opened the gates of ssj

    • @23Raind
      @23Raind 5 місяців тому

      Means nothing.

  • @sc76399
    @sc76399 9 місяців тому

    It's like Berserk oozaru without the transformation

  • @twistedwolf8422
    @twistedwolf8422 9 місяців тому

    The fandom wiki even states that the legendary super saiyan form is a form attained by a saiyan who has attained this unique super saiyan form without a saiyan tail

  • @man.506
    @man.506 10 місяців тому

    Bros overwhelming power is a disability, tuff 🗣

  • @Alistor_hotel
    @Alistor_hotel 9 місяців тому

    old Brody is legendary saipan and kale is brolys counterpart so makes sense they have similar forms

  • @Linkin-2603
    @Linkin-2603 3 місяці тому

    My head canon is the “Legendary” form is just autism in saiyans.
    Especially if you look at Broly and Kale’s personality. Kinda resembles someone on the spectrum.
    But this also makes the characters more relatable to me, since I have diagnosed autism
    (And not that self diagnosed shit people do to be “QuIrKy aNd UnIqUe”)
    It’s like…the black face of autism

  • @yang139
    @yang139 9 місяців тому

    That makes me feel a lot better about Universe 6 saiyans in TOP tbh

  • @ronaldtorian5345
    @ronaldtorian5345 9 місяців тому

    The phrase the legend of the ssj vs the legendary ssj is 2 different meanings. One speaks on the legend of a warrior that reaves the level of ssj , and the other is the level of ssj that is unrivaled amongs them

  • @that_GHOST_GUY_
    @that_GHOST_GUY_ 9 місяців тому

    Fun fact cumber the non cannon charectar was lssj before broly

  • @Snezzyboi
    @Snezzyboi 9 місяців тому

    Carthu's dojo already proved that goku is the legendary super saiyan since he was the first one after the original that started the tale, that first one was also most likely bardock.

    • @TyshaggyGaming
      @TyshaggyGaming 3 місяці тому

      Carthu is human, he *CAN* be wrong

  • @Xgeosheimusic
    @Xgeosheimusic 9 місяців тому

    Super saiyan explainable 👍

  • @pietrolollo1233
    @pietrolollo1233 5 місяців тому

    I like to think they are. This form is shown to be extremely rare,only 2 Saiyans have been shown so far to possess it instead of the regular Ssj, and it's also not possible for other Saiyans to reach this form,otherwise Goku and Vegeta would've already done it.

  • @demariw1004
    @demariw1004 10 місяців тому

    There might be another berserk kale that’s equal in power to dbs full power broly in an alternate timeline in universe 6, which means if that kale fused with caulifla then kefla’s base form might be on par with ui sign goku or probably surpasses him without being a super saiyan

  • @Balls19246
    @Balls19246 9 місяців тому

    Be honest, there’s two legendary, super Saiyan, because in the older sagas Freiza and Vegeta said that a normal super Saiyan was a actual legendary super Saiyan

  • @JackedUpEntertainment
    @JackedUpEntertainment 9 місяців тому

    Alot of people us the fact that they're called something else in the games, which isnt a good measure since the games have called Super Saiyan 2 "Super Saiyan Rage" and seperated Vegetas forms from regular Super Saiyan, unless they wanna say Vegeta has a completely original and unique form of Super Saiyan

  • @wsoares89
    @wsoares89 9 місяців тому

    Tfs dbz abridged broly movie is the GOAT broly content

  • @demariwilliams9235
    @demariwilliams9235 7 місяців тому

    Kale is the universe 6 counterpart of dbz broly which means there’s a kale in a alternate timeline in universe 6 with the same strength as dbs broly

  • @CrustyLiquid
    @CrustyLiquid 4 місяці тому

    you have the legend of the super saiyan then you have the legendary super saiyan. wording is very important.
    Goku brought truth to the legend of the super saiyan proving it was possible but broly and kale had a different type of super saiyan caused by a mutation that made their base power astronomically higher than other saiyans. That’s why its legendary because its like finding a new legendary item in a game thats stronger and has more effects than its regular counterpart, think like fallout 4 same type of weapon as its more common counterpart but better overall.

  • @x1n00bie
    @x1n00bie 9 місяців тому

    "the old brawly" 😭😭

  • @rialvita7141
    @rialvita7141 10 місяців тому +1

    Or how Super Saiyan God is just Saiyan God and no Super Saiyan involved, but Blue being in nature a Super Saiyan God is called SSGSS...

  • @requiem6775
    @requiem6775 10 місяців тому

    I think there’s something to the LSSJ form where it’s only Legendary because in the past, they could have simply been the ones who could unlock the form easily(ish), unlike most other normal saiyans who couldn’t unlock the gold-haired form

    • @benogle4951
      @benogle4951 10 місяців тому

      Super Saiyan and legendary Super Saiyan are not the same thing, we don't even have in universe confirmation that what the characters have is the Super Saiyan of legend, the legendary Super Saiyan it's not a form it's a person, a Saiyan that is far beyond the potential of any normal Saiyan, hence a "super" Saiyan. It would only makes sense that the legendary super Saiyan is an individual rather than a form anyone with Saiyan DNA could use. In the film the doctor states that Broly could even end up being the legendary super Saiyan, they knew what they were doing when they wrote the film and they wouldn't have used that line of the writers didn't mean to make people think that he was the legendary super Saiyan. Then consider the fact that the title of legendary Super Saiyan is permanently linked to Broly, and the film does heavily reference the old version of the character with the green haired form and usage of that title. They specifically make a point to tell you that Broly is the legendary super Saiyan. In addition, when Vegeta first talked about the Super Saiyan the visuals were much closer aligned with the ideas of Broly rather than the super Saiyan form, the raging out of control power is exactly what we have seen with kale and both broly's. In conclusion they have named their forms different things because it's not the form that is legendary Super Saiyan, it is the individual.

  • @lilmac2442
    @lilmac2442 5 місяців тому

    The original answer is that original concept of LSS was supposed to be just super saiyan, a legend of an ability to transform into a form with great power that far outweighs the transformation of the great ape. The saiyans passed down this legend throughout generations, and it eventually became a myth until Goku transformed. Then the Broly movie, which was noncanon, decided to take the false narrative myth part of the legend-- that a super saying was born every X amount of years-- and made that part reality with a new "true" legendary form.
    Then Super decided to possibly[?] make this Canon through Kale and Broly. As of now, it can be thought as just an homage to the original Broly movie since no one outright made the connection to the stories both Vegeta and Frieza were passed down. Until one of these characters states these forms are the actual LSS that the stories were about, we can't say for sure either way.

  • @chrab2733
    @chrab2733 9 місяців тому

    I think that Goku is a legendary Super Saiyan, and that Akira Toriyama was planning to end Dragon Ball in the Namek arc, but the anime continued and Vegeta got a transformation, and then the idea was changed.

  • @lexichu1520
    @lexichu1520 9 місяців тому

    I personally like to think the LSSJ is the one from the Legends. Id imagine the Saiyan Race only ever saw that form and called it the "Legendary" Super Saiyan, but when Yamoshi appeared and turned into a golden haired Super Saiyan, they assumed it was an entirely different form and called it "Super Saiyan God"

  • @JaydenDimaio
    @JaydenDimaio 6 місяців тому

    Personally, I like the confusion itself, playing with legends and prophecy.
    Goku defeating Freeza seemed to fit the prophecy, so everyone assumed it had been fulfilled and that was that.
    Only to later realise they've misinterpreted the prophecy and there really *is* a capital L, *Legendary* super saiyan.
    This way Goku defeats Freeza through sheer hardwork and determination ( which is apparently what Goku is all about ) instead of being predestined to do it, but we also get a millennium long prophesied Legendary mutant super warrior.
    We get to have it both ways.

  • @manofcultures
    @manofcultures 9 місяців тому

    OG Broly is The Legendary, his power level is MAXIMUMER😊

  • @tha4thsun963
    @tha4thsun963 9 місяців тому

    It makes no sense to only now say that they're not the legendary saiyans since they have feats that not even Goku n Vegeta have as far as the green energy when going super Saiyan, and while fighting they only get stronger and the fact it took a fusion to take him down once he transformed. Plus no other saiyans run the risk of destroying themselves and the people around them if they don't control they're power. They are legends

  • @RaphBlade7
    @RaphBlade7 9 місяців тому

    Note: People tend to like to think of the Legend of the Super Saiyan as like some kind of prophecy! LSSJ is a name given to OG Broly's unique SSJ form as it resembles the bloodthirsty and violent Super Saiyan of legend! In Universe 7, a 1000 years before Goku when SSJ on Namek, Yamoshi was the original ancient Super Saiyan who fought against the evil Saiyans! He became known for his aggressive manner of fighting! In Universe 7 these two Legends were combined creating the Super Saiyan of legend, a figure of legend distorted over time! Combine that with the existence of Legendary Saiyans, mutant Demon warriors born every century which is what Broly & Kale are, Mutants with power that could easily be mistaken for the Super Saiyan of legend in Universe 7, hence why it was dubbed the Legendary Super Saiyan aka LSSJ!
    Goku didn't realize some prophecy, as he simply became the first SSJ since Yamoshi to appear in a millennia, as knowledge of basic SSJ form had been lost, which Goku rediscovered!
    That's my take on all this based upon what I know! Broly's unique SSJ form will always be LSSJ to fans like myself, with his Canon counterpart & Kale both possessing it due to being Mutant Saiyans!

  • @Certified_stack_of_bread
    @Certified_stack_of_bread 9 місяців тому

    In dragon ball legends broly's ultra character is called legendary super Saiyan broly, he does also have a couple other forms that also is called legendary super Saiyan broly

  • @observantbuddy
    @observantbuddy 9 місяців тому

    Makes sense. OG Broly himself was the Legendary SSJ not the form. And currently neither are since their power does indeed have logical explanations (Despite being plot convenient ofc).

  • @VGamingJunkieVT
    @VGamingJunkieVT 9 місяців тому

    Well, according to Battle of Gods, the Legendary Super Saiyan was now a Super Saiyan God, which kind of invalidates the idea of Broly/Kale being it. As well as that weird Bardock going back in time and being it thing.

  • @nikhillakra2093
    @nikhillakra2093 10 місяців тому +2

    So super saiyans made from guilt or sorrow are more powerful that the ones made from rage?

  • @Dave2kool4skool
    @Dave2kool4skool 5 місяців тому

    I think the aura is green because Broccoli (Broly) and Kale are Super foods thus the Legendary Super Saiyan. Carrots are super foods as well but not at the peak of Broccoli

  • @chadsteve4334
    @chadsteve4334 4 місяці тому

    Kale is kale. The end.

  • @codynoble1059
    @codynoble1059 9 місяців тому

    Old Z broly is a gigachad

  • @kachiedits6231
    @kachiedits6231 9 місяців тому

    The true legendary super Saiyan was the one who first awoken the form its as simple as that tbh
    The question of who it was is what we dont know, id like to say its bardock but of course the movie wasnt canon (still would be the coolest option imo) but i guess the best option would have been the first super saiyan god who defeated evil thousands of years ago on planet vageta thus inspiring the legend

  • @mcsissorface7756
    @mcsissorface7756 5 місяців тому

    Akira Toriyama didn’t come up with the idea. Broly wasn’t supposed to have green hair either but the original animator of the Z Broly made sure that Super Broly had Green hair to have a throw to the original Broly

    • @23Raind
      @23Raind 5 місяців тому

      Doesn't matter. It's in the movie, it's Canon.