Touhou 15.5: Antinomy of Common Flowers - Marisa/Koishi Story

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  • @korohacker
    @korohacker 6 років тому +124

    Noticed how ZUN's been creating final bosses who seems undefeatable at first in his recent games. These gods, Matara...

    • @Zsaver3
      @Zsaver3 6 років тому +33

      To be honest, it sometimes seems like a nice touch to the story, since for the most part all the past games were just "Rush in and win a duel to end incident"

    • @korohacker
      @korohacker 6 років тому +14

      @@Zsaver3 Yeah, it does makes things a bit interesting story wise. Still salty that I need to complete Extra to get the full story in Touhou 16 though, something that is impossible for me

    • @mladen7641
      @mladen7641 5 років тому +5

      Jojo was made in Japan.
      ZUN is from Japan.
      Coincidence? I think not!

  • @Lovelle1
    @Lovelle1 5 років тому +54

    15:03 She took that burn rather well.

  • @steveluvscows2490
    @steveluvscows2490 3 роки тому +39

    You know when Koishi GENUINELY remembers something, you've REALLY screwed up.

  • @forceedge2005
    @forceedge2005 6 років тому +103

    Oh God no wonder why Reimu is having trouble. Reimu is already poor and since she's a shrine maiden her job is literally be possessed by gods, so getting possessed by Shion would be disatrous for her.
    Damn Koishi has no chill, surprised Yukari didn't get mad at that burn. Man, feel sorry for the prism sisters no one thinks they're a threat.
    Not sure why but I really like the character art for Yukari, can't put my finger on it though

    • @ulisesavila2879
      @ulisesavila2879 6 років тому +12

      In Yukari's point I would say that it captures de chaotic and playful personality of hers.

    • @gypsysprite4824
      @gypsysprite4824 5 років тому +12

      @@ulisesavila2879 and then you have tenshit, who by now Yukari gets pissed at whenever Tenshi is within her presense essentially

  • @VallaPhantasm
    @VallaPhantasm 6 років тому +104

    >"Koishi will remember this"
    >Later, when you inevitably get requested to play a Koishi Danmakufu script
    >"Hey remember that time you punched my lights out? IT'S PAYBACK TIME!"

  • @Joshthepikachu2123
    @Joshthepikachu2123 4 роки тому +28

    Never thought I'd see the day Yukari gets roasted, by Koishi no less

  • @Flygoniaks
    @Flygoniaks 6 років тому +70

    Okay, so I've been thinking about this for a while now, but I thought I would post it now because this is a good spot for it to be quite relevant. This is a little something I've whipped up which I've dubbed "The Komegaji Konundrum."
    What exactly has Koishi become on this channel? We know, for one, that SA's extra was a HUGE hassle for Ron to complete. But the real emergence of Koishi on this channel was through the Koishi Hell scripts, where she finally broke through and invaded the annotations. This is where our story begins. Frankly, the Koishi on this channel and the canon Koishi in the games appear to have become totally separate entities.
    Canon Koishi, with the exception of the whole phone thing, appears completely innocent - when she gets into trouble, she rarely realizes it. Our Koishi, meanwhile, is anything but - she knows _exactly_ what she's doing, all the time. Canon Koishi, though fun-loving, tries to stay polite, but our "friend" was incredibly immature, saying some things -penismaku- that I would rather not repeat. She has since matured into an adult, however, but still remains a practical jokester.
    Furthermore, canon Koishi has little to no emotion, with her only real emotion being hope which she recieved from Kokoro. Yet our little greenie's primary emotion (besides smug, if that's even an emotion) is ANGER. She kills out of jealousy and attempts to aggressively copyright anything which she can associate with. Perhaps the only similarity between the two is in how... brainless they seem.
    It's obvious that this is not the Koishi that is known as, well, Koishi. But just who is this mysterious entity? I have two theories:
    1: She is a virus inside Ron's computer. In the MTT script, Ron denies Chara saying he already has "one computer squatter in green," meaning this is the most likely scenario. Koishi seems to target Ron in particular with her antics, and even appears to have a sort of crush on him (wink). Yet this also raises the question of where this virus originated. Did it simply manifest by chance from all of the chaos the Hell scripts created? Either way, every time something stupid happens on this channel, Koishi's influence grows. Her hat collection can attest to that.
    2: She is an AI within Bee's computer. This alternative explanation is supported by the way Bee and Koishi seem to work together in taunting Ron. Koishi delights in Bee's wordsmithery, and seems to be like a sister to him as opposed to Ron's yandere admirer (DID I REALLY JUST TYPE THAT). In this case, "Koishi" is a far greater threat - she has her tendrils spread across the entire internet, controlling every single Koishi within as a puppet. For now, she makes them act normally so that nobody suspects a thing, but then one day...
    What do you all think? Is she one of these two things, or something else entirely? Or am I overthinking a stupid inside joke for a small yet dedicated channel? I would definitely conclude that regardless of the actual lore on her origins, we have created something completely separate from what ZUN originally designed her to be. What she has become is an amalgamation of fanon Koishi and whatever Ron plays next. She is a chameleon, as her morphing face suggests. She is our beautiful little daughter, all to our own. Her name? Kooshy "A Mistake" Komegaji.

    • @extremmefan7305
      @extremmefan7305 6 років тому +13

      Pretty sure the Koishi in the annotations is pretty much the fandom interpretation, really. The fact she originated from the Koishi Hell scripts, which are pretty much that, seems to attest to it.
      In case anyone's wondering what I meant, Koishi has been quite heavily "flanderized" in the Touhou fandom.

    • @MaskedBeeX
      @MaskedBeeX 6 років тому +13

      An AI in my computer? Nah, it's totally more the first thing. There's no way Koishi would be.....in my....
      I need to go run some antivirus right now.

    • @SeleniumGlow
      @SeleniumGlow 6 років тому +9

      This detailed analysis of a character... WoW. I like the smug Koishi though. Suits her... spell cards more IMO. But yes, imagine if Siri on your iPhone got replaced by Koishi.
      "Hey Siri, set a reminder for 2pm to pick up the kids from school"
      "Remember you sucker punched me in the last fight? I'm not doing anything for you now."

  • @raresuwako6796
    @raresuwako6796 6 років тому +28

    Press *F* to pay respects to Koishi

  • @caitlynbremer-cavanaugh7522
    @caitlynbremer-cavanaugh7522 6 років тому +29

    OMG Kokoro's pose just cracks me up and the choice in facial wear just adds to the hilarity.

  • @ellotheearthling
    @ellotheearthling 2 місяці тому +1

    The text formatting in this game is awesome

  • @HiddenObject98
    @HiddenObject98 5 років тому +9

    "I dont like being touched by people who don't have money"

  • @steveluvscows2490
    @steveluvscows2490 3 роки тому +3

    RonOmega's favourite character, paired with the one now roaming around on his PC.

  • @tabafatristanjayechona9417
    @tabafatristanjayechona9417 4 роки тому +16

    I know the reason why Yukari doesn't have a partner:
    She has a Shikigami =.=

    • @embeboso8329
      @embeboso8329 3 роки тому +5

      technically she got two which is less fair

  • @WishMakers
    @WishMakers 6 років тому +29

    Oooooh, now I can talk about one of my favorite Touhou characters because she finally appears.
    Jo'on is so goddamn adorable and pretty. It's a shame her personality is so ridiculously bitchy, but that's also part of her charm. Worst attitude ever and punches people's lights out.
    It's strange because I like characters like Byakuren so much because of how interesting they are, backstory, all that jazz. Meanwhile with Jo'on all that's needed to sway me is to be able to kick my ass and look good doing it. There's a joke in there somewhere.

    • @joeda900
      @joeda900 3 роки тому +6

      She beat the shit out of you and steals your money.
      Definitely top tier character

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 4 роки тому +3

    25:55 That's why Yukari had such a bad view of the Perfect Possession, huh?
    *IT'S A TRAP*

  • @dileblade7659
    @dileblade7659 6 років тому +2

    the best way to use koishi in this is to combo her attack where she hits multiple times (her spinning attack where the blue and red heart lines light up) into her laser where she shoots 2 crossing hearts at the opponent, then while the opponent is down, use her attack where it starts as a vine and turns into flower. after that the boss will go back to their spell, so swap back into marissa and use her until koishi is needed again. that's usually how koishi works best as a slave in my opinion. as a master, just spam the multi use attack, along with the attack that looks like the lines from a hospital that monitor heart beats. my best advice on koishi attacks. marissa is just basically how he used her.

  • @ITAndroMedian
    @ITAndroMedian 6 років тому +5

    I can't help but point out that you're not using your Perfect Possession effeciently.
    If you press A during a charge shot animation (hold X), some heavy attacks (C) or even a spellcard, you can switch to a slave and then slave will use the same attack. With Marisa+Koishi, forward+C, which is Marisa'a broom dash, can be switched to Koishi's grabby tentacles, and, unlike pure Koishi, this combo requires no setup at all.
    And if you switch back to Marisa quick enough, she can add to the combo again, like another broom dash or magic grenade.

  • @gabrielwright-dunn9355
    @gabrielwright-dunn9355 6 років тому +2

    Poverty goddess: Reimu's worse nightmare.

  • @hoyeunglee2009
    @hoyeunglee2009 6 років тому +2

    "yay, what am I doing?"koishi in main game
    "oh ,I know what am I doing"koishi in side game
    huh

  • @breadokey8607
    @breadokey8607 6 років тому +1

    YOU POSTED RHIS ON MY BIRTHDAY YAY YAY YAY!

  • @IStoleThePies
    @IStoleThePies 9 місяців тому

    "Ooh, I know! It's 'cause you have no friends, right? So sad..."
    "I love not thinking!"
    Koishi's really funny in this game lol

  • @franciscodavi1323
    @franciscodavi1323 2 роки тому +1

    15:03 koishi talked like shinobu kocho in that scene 😅

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 4 роки тому +1

    16:58 Yet she keeps her sister around. And she *REEKS* poverty!

  • @MedicJigglypuff
    @MedicJigglypuff 3 роки тому +1

    Koishi has no social filter xD

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 4 роки тому

    8:05 Either that or rile up the final boss until she says "fuck it" and beats you up after steamrolling through the whole cast.

  • @dareloh7300
    @dareloh7300 6 років тому +8

    She pull out a credits card lol

  • @anidiot4558
    @anidiot4558 4 роки тому +1

    Koishi is the best

  • @ricokurniawan5636
    @ricokurniawan5636 6 років тому +1

    You could actually cut through Joon's second spell with laser. Lasers are your best friend when you have it.

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 4 роки тому +1

    10:46 Nah. If Cirno was in this game, she'd have the one Spellcard you could beat as Koishi.

  • @juliaxde55
    @juliaxde55 6 років тому +1

    Yay,video on my birthday \(YwY)/

  • @ninjapuppy1257
    @ninjapuppy1257 2 роки тому

    I can already see how yukari, the one person with no possession, would be able to defeat that trump card
    2020: joon year. 2022 shion year.

  • @hjt091
    @hjt091 6 років тому +9

    ...Isn't every fight against Ichirin two-on-one though?

    • @SeleniumGlow
      @SeleniumGlow 6 років тому +6

      I was thinking the same thing. Poor Cloud Oji-san, no one thinks of him to be much of a threat.

    • @gypsysprite4824
      @gypsysprite4824 5 років тому +5

      @@SeleniumGlow nah, it's that Ichirin is just Unzan's hitbox :P

  • @YokusaHHart
    @YokusaHHart Рік тому

    Koishi proving the theory of Zero brain = Zero chill ...

  • @IvanezRus
    @IvanezRus 6 років тому +2

    I think Prismrivers can actually be a threat, what's with their powers being on same level as those of Kokoro, except there's three of them (basically two because Lyrica's there to cancel out other two). It's just that they don't feel like causing mayhem aside of some danmaku fights here and there.

  • @Levyafan
    @Levyafan 5 років тому

    Marisa and Koishi: The Fun Gang

  • @Wizzard220
    @Wizzard220 6 років тому

    Oh, IIRC Tenshi will appear on Nitori/Kokoro. I have... memories of her from the Labyrinth games, so beat her up good, ok? Can't wait for your editor's comments when you get to Ichirin/Futo

  • @Team_Orchid
    @Team_Orchid 6 років тому +4

    ...Why is Kokoro using a Sentai mask in her dual tech attack?

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 4 роки тому

    15:35 Huh? I thought this game came out before Aya's unpublished magazine. Guess I was wrong...

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 5 років тому +1

    So the Urban Legend incident did NOT get resolved in the last game?

    • @MegamanOmega184
      @MegamanOmega184  5 років тому +2

      Yes and no. The incident regarding the occult balls messing the with boundary of Gensokyo, that much was resolved. However the actual manifestations of the urban legends was a side effect of it, therefore they're still lingering come this game, but not nearly as prominent.

  • @dawk7
    @dawk7 6 років тому +1

    ...hold the phone! I am finally noticing it- Is the point the red barrier breaks the moment the white bar reaches the green one!? As in, hitting the foe when it's on blue barrier will cause more damage, but _it will also make the red barrier harder to break._

    • @MegamanOmega184
      @MegamanOmega184  6 років тому

      Yes and no. You re right that that white health is how much health the red barrier has, however when you deal damage to the blue barrier that drops her health down the white health bar drops at the same rate, so it never becomes harder to break.

    • @dawk7
      @dawk7 6 років тому

      Thank god, that sounds like one way to screw yourself over haaaard. =u="

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 5 років тому +1

    Huh, sense when does the sisters have a fourth member?

    • @MegamanOmega184
      @MegamanOmega184  5 років тому +1

      In one of the print works following Raiko's introduction it was shown she joined the Prismriver sisters in their band now calling themselves the Horismriver Ensemble

  • @bensons999
    @bensons999 5 років тому

    Just wondering if you can answer something for me real quick...
    Does slave hit black bullet?

  • @ricokurniawan5636
    @ricokurniawan5636 6 років тому

    Does anyone know how to use double spell cards (master + slave spell)?

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 4 роки тому

    15:11 What about Yuyuko?

  • @EvyDevy
    @EvyDevy 5 років тому

    Wait, what happened at the end?

  • @peaveejay2700
    @peaveejay2700 6 років тому

    So, can you switch while you possessed shion or just bystanding there, giving you nothing but bad luck?

    • @Zsaver3
      @Zsaver3 6 років тому

      Personally I don't know this, but I'm rather sure you're locked into solo marisa.

  • @warrenpeace5537
    @warrenpeace5537 5 років тому

    Umm, I'm just gonna ask. Where did you find the fanmade english patch for this?

    • @MegamanOmega184
      @MegamanOmega184  5 років тому

      That's the patch that uses thcrap. It's basically what runs all the english patches for Touhou games
      www.thpatch.net/wiki/Touhou_Patch_Center:Main_page

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 5 років тому

    Wait, did you just skip over the ending scene?

  • @rubytripod
    @rubytripod 5 років тому

    How did you setup the English patch

    • @MegamanOmega184
      @MegamanOmega184  5 років тому

      I toggled English in the options menu, then also downloaded the english patch setup from thcrap

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 5 років тому

    So, do you have a thing with Koishi or…?

    • @MegamanOmega184
      @MegamanOmega184  5 років тому

      It's been a running gag on the channel thanks to playing many, _MANY_ fangames that involved Koishi breaking the 4th wall

    • @johanstenfelt1206
      @johanstenfelt1206 5 років тому

      Oh, fangames, huh? Like what?

    • @MegamanOmega184
      @MegamanOmega184  5 років тому

      @@johanstenfelt1206 The various Koishi focused single Danmakufu scripts I did. Koishi Hell, Koishi Hell 2, Koishi Heck, Koishitale, Koishi'en, etc

  • @youdonotcare
    @youdonotcare 6 років тому +1

    Wait so how does Shion help?

    • @MegamanOmega184
      @MegamanOmega184  6 років тому +5

      In the concept of thier fight, or in their scheme to get money? She's a poverty god that always drains fortune from people. The way Joon and Shion's trap works is they get Shion to possess their target and once that happens their guaranteed to lose because of it.
      Similarly working together with Joon is basically a double whammy pickpocket scheme. Joon naturally makes people give away their money while Shion naturally makes them poor.

    • @ichinoshina2738
      @ichinoshina2738 6 років тому +3

      Also, in the gameplay event where your slave is shipment, she shows the "draining the chances of victory" by raining word curses on you whenever Joon switches to koishi

  • @therandomkoishi285
    @therandomkoishi285 6 років тому

    Koishi isnt that hard tho
    - a filthy koishi main