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What if they were so set on getting to Paradise Falls that maybe adopting was the plan after. Maybe they didn't feel any other place in the world would be good enough for raising a child.
If Carl and Eddie adopt a child, this would alter the movie a little bit. Not letting the house go up with those balloons. Never meeting our friendly adventure scout. Most important of all never meeting that colorful bird. What was that bird in the movie? Could it be the Dodo? or Was the a relic from a prehistoric era?
Chances are they didn't adopt because it's expensive, and like you said, they weren't well to do. I think the miscarriage is very plausible as well and there's a big reason for that. (Warning, this is about to get deep and possibly very depressing for some people) The scene where Elli is sitting in the yard just staring. Hearing you're infernal is a big downer, but not that kind of downer. Women don't sit in the yard on a dining room chair and stare into space because of simple infertility. They stare into space because of losing their baby. Chances are that she was about 3-4 months pregnant, and when she went in for a check up they found out she had lost the baby. That is devastating, and would likely send her into a serious depression the we don't even know how long it lasted. Super depressing, but very plausible. Love your videos by the way. Great brain food sometimes.
Meagan Shupe I do agree with you on the miscarriage part, in that I do think she had one but mainly because of the way the doctor visits were shown. I do have a different look on the infertility thing though. Infertility is one very heart breaking thing, it makes you feel broken inside and it's shattering. I believe it is completely believable that it can cause deep depression. Infertility takes your choice away, can make you feel inferior, and can put great strain on relationships. It is hard and only those going through it or have gone through it can truly understand.
Samantha Stokes my entire family has major fertility issues. My grandmother was told she could never get pregnant and by some miracle ended up with my mom. I've been told multiple times that it may be difficult if not impossible to conceive naturally or at all due to cancer treatments from when I was 18. It's upsetting, but much easier to get through than a miscarriage. And I just get the feeling Ellie wouldn't be the type of woman to let it stop her. Not to say that who don are weak, just that it doesn't effect all women that way. A miscarriage, however, almost universally does.
It’s also possible that she miscarried and complications from the miscarriage caused infertility. That’s a double whammy that can be hard to recover from.
Its entirely possible that its the miscarriage itself that made her unable to have a child, or even worse she could still get pregnant but she'd likely miscarriage again or have other complications that threaten her life. Giving birth is still quite an ordeal even with modern medical assistance and some women's bodies are just not up to taking the strain.
First off, it wasn't a simple case of infertility, that was a miscarriage. It clearly shows the two of them setting up a nursery, and no one does that unless they're pregnant. I've never known anyone set up a nursery when they were simply planning. Second, An adoption is very costly and very difficult. Doing it at any point in your life is hard, much less doing it after a miscarriage. A miscarriage can be devastating on a couple, sometimes to the point where they completely give up on becoming a parent.
I think all the stress made them decide not to pursue adoption. Financial strain is also possible. Touching video, Issac. Up is an amazing film. With D3 coming I would love to see more Descendants related videos. Queen Leah maybe?
queendsheena1. I think that was a good theory Wotso Videos had about why Carl & Ellie couldn't have or adopt a child, but if they really wanted a child that badly & couldn't adopt, why not consider Fostering instead? Perhaps they actually did foster children but the movie deliberaltely left out or would not put in scenes where a Social Worker would drop off &/or pick up the kids in question. Plus the scene where Russell the Boy Scout showed up the 1st time on Carl's doorstep, maybe he was the son of a fostered child he & Ellie raised but neither Carl or Russell recognised each other. Another theory I have is what about Carl & Ellie's relatives? If a relation (or both) on either side of the family had died (or was unable to care for) & a child was in need of a home, they'd have jumped at the chance of taking in their Niece/Nephew/Cousin's Child & giving him/her the home that was so badly needed.
I doubt it. She wasn't shown to be noticeably pregnant or giving birth although we know she most likely got pregnant and even if that happened it wouldn't mean she was infertile since she was still able to carry it full term. It looks more to me like they went to the doctor for a regular check up for the baby and was told they lost it due to infertility issues. (although can infertile women even get pregnant? I think she was though and I'm just looking too far into it.) Although losing a child st all (and maybe having even more unseen failed attempts at pregnancy as most couples with fertility problems do) still could've been enough to make them not want to adopt. And it's also possible that they were a bit older by the time they knew for sure they couldn't have one (age does make it a bit harder as well) and felt too old to adopt at that point as the process takes a while anyway. Personally though I believe the theory that Riley and Andy's moms (from Inside out and Toy story) were Carl's children from a previous relationship he had with a women named Emma Jean who they stayed close to over the years so they ultimately decided that even though Ellie wanted her own children that his children being in their life was ultimately enough for them. If you don't know what I mean though, look it up. The super carlin brothers did a video on the theory and the director of Inside out confirmed who Emma Jean was in an interview with them. It's really interesting and there's a lot to it, I just wouldn't be able to explain it all in one comment.
+The Media Raptor I think it was a miscarriage and that caused Ellie to not be able to conceive after that, it can happen to some women I've heard of it before, since miscarriages can cause damage to a woman's reproductive system. :(
I dont know if the baby was stillborn, but im pretry sure that she was not infertile. They loss a child, if you are infertile, you can not get pregnat. I dont know why ppl think they can have one. They loss one and it was very traumatic for her, so she didnt wanted to suffer again.
My impression was always it was a miscarriage or stillborn... The face of Ellie sitting outside was more that just that of someone who couldn't have a child... It's that of someone who lost one. And if it was a particularly bad miscarriage, it could have rendered her infertile to boot.
My stepfather was adopted around the era Ellie and Carl would have. The reasons you give, while legitimate, are similar to his adoption story: 1. Miscarriage - his parents had over 6-7 of them. It was so sad. When his father passed away, I found letters they wrote to each other where she writes, "I love you, but if you need to find a new girl who can give you a family, I understand." The reply letter was so beautiful and romantic, "You are my girl, my only love. I wouldn't and couldn't be anyone else. Don't feel bad or blame yourself, you can't help what your body does. Take care of my girl and don't risk it anymore to make me happy. You are my happiness."😭💖 She had 7 miscarriages in less than five years - I'm fairly certain more. They were not "well off" but did adopt not one but TWO children that they adored. (Almost 50 years and they still had saved report cards, baby teeth, ect.) If the adventure that Carl and Ellie wanted was a baby, they were innovative, creative, driven, and in love enough to have made it happen. We only see ONE trip at an OBG with her crying. My theory is that the miscarriage damaged her reproductively and she (like my Stepfather's adoptive mother) didn't feel like "a woman" anymore. Leading to the depression we see later. My best guess is that even the THOUGHT of a child was too painful, so Carl reminded her of what made him love her in the first place - her adventurous spirit and lofty dreams (as an adoption would further remind her of the dream cut short, never carrying a child made from their love and bringing it to term.) In short, it would have been a painful reminder of her loss and possibly called in to question her dreams and adventurous spirit after "failing", knowing she couldn't even try again and possibly a physically painful miscarriage(s) that may have led to her "losing" a part of herself. Carl reminds her that she's still his Ellie - no matter what biological changes, and she is still whole and perfect in his eyes with a revelation similar to what he felt when he finally gets her message in the adventure book. Just speaking from the stories and letters of a real-life love similar to Carl and Ellie's. The similarities were so strong actually, that it's the reason why I can't watch UP ever again. It's too close to home.
@@kaytlinjustis5643 I'm glad you liked it. (I had forgotten I had written this here.) There were many other amazing letters between the two of them that, while on a different subject, were very touching and romantic. (The fact that they had been carefully saved and organized in chronological order despite many times the recipient was overseas...) With all of the details, of which I've only gone into the tip of the iceberg, it makes for an amazing love story. I would consider adapting it; but it's not mine to inherit.
I think it was their personalities that kept them from adopting, Ellie probably decided that if she couldn't have a child she'd just make all the other children happy.
I think they just wanted to try to focus on adventuring. It would be harder to that with a child. Also after finding out you can't have kids maybe they were worried some how the adoption wouldn't go through or the parent would change there mind. They didnt want to get hurt again.
As someone who's struggling with infertility, I can relate to ellie and carl's situation. Adoption is not a cure for infertility. The trauma when I find out I probably cannot have biological children, never have the chance to experience pregnancy and breastfeeding, the loss of my genetic, all cannot be erased just by adoption. Adoption is an amazing and beautiful thing but I have to be fully healed from infertility trauma before diving into it. I cannot raise a child when I'm still grieving.
I feel like maybe Ellie might've had an infertility condition that required a hysterectomy, cause back in those days if you had anything wrong with your reproductive organs and you were female, you had them removed 9 times out of 10. This might've thrown her into a depression that would resurface anytime they thought about the idea of becoming parents again, as losing organs like that can hit you hard. Or disregarding the hysterectomy part, she still could have become extremely depressed and thinking about children any further would throw her down that dark spiral again and again. As much as we wanted them to be happy with kids, just as the sequence shows, life unfortunately doesn't always go that way, but they made in through together.
As a woman who had a hysterectomy at 24 due to cancer it did send me into a deep depression. At 26 now my boyfriend is all for adoption after we're married thinking about it does just make me fall down into that spiral of sadness. As it possibly was for Ellie as well, it's not something many people deal with. Though I never had the chance of becoming pregnant before it all happened.
I think this is a very strong theory. Fertility issues run strong in my family and one perticular one i wanna talk about for this topic is scarring/hemorrhaging. This can either be caused by pregnancy (or loss of one) or can be the cause of the loss but essencially its the phenomenon of having a very severe bleed or rupture during a miscarriage which can in turn cut off blood supply to the reproductive organs. In minor cases this can cause scar tissue which makes it diffucult or impossible for pregnancies afterwards to 'stick' or to death of the organ, which would require removal. This is more common during the 2nd trimester, and is usually very complicated, making the loss even more traumatic. The psychological impact is even stronger than the already awful circumstance because if you are left with a removal just being around children can feel like a reminder of what you can absolutely never have and even if it is merely that it will be more difficult the thought of trying again and running the risk can be so upsetting and stressful it's often easier to avoid it altogether. It can basically be so traumatizing it can bring on a form of PTSD. I've watched many women in my family go through this and have had my own struggles with it that i can see very easily mirrored in elle; the excitement for a family, the emotional outburst when the loss is fresh, the quiet depression as time passes, and the eventual regain of happiness only after moving on from it. For some the pain and trauma is enough that they do not want to or cannot handle being around or caring for children. Sometimes it changes your feelings on the subject or sometimes letting go altogether is the only way to heal.
HK the first time I saw up I was really young like 6 or 7 and I didn’t cry because I didn’t understand that scene at the doctor’s office, I knew they wanted a baby but after the doctor’s office I didn’t know why they didn’t get one, but now that I know what everything is, it’s really sad.
Adoption isn't heartbreaking for the adoptive parents (actually, that's not entirely true, it's complicated), but deciding to give up on having biological kids is heartbreaking. Any therapist will tell you it's a full-on grieving process. While my own infertility pushed me to consider adoption, many others in the infertility community just can't handle (or even necessarily desire) raising a child not biologically related to them.
To everyone saying adoption makes you happy....some people aren't emotionally able to make the decision after being told they can not have kids or having a miscarage... my wife and I went through this when we lost our baby girl
Amazing video, Isaac! Congrats 👏🏻👏🏻 I think that the fact that Ellie was pregnant and lost her baby makes a lot of sense, giving the nursery room, and I think that the emotional strain was just to much for them to take. Thus, they decided not to chase their dream of having a baby, but instead to chase their dream of traveling to South America. I really love Up ❤️ (the first minutes always make me cry) Carl and Ellie's love story is an amazing example of love and union in a relationship!
I do agree that money could the biggest factor and the regulations they have for adopting. That's something my husband and I are currently dealing since I do want children but cannot due to health reasons. I do want to adopt eventually but our money situation isn't the greatest at this time (gotta love medical bills and student loans). So this video really hits home with me. Also I didn't know you are in my neighbor state (I'm from Minnesota; love how you say it tbh).
I am in the same boat. Look into Fostering and then adoption. Some states actually help you if you Foster and then adopt the child later on. I found out about this and I am thankful so my husband and I can raise a child together.
I've read about and kind of thought about fostering as well. It also doesn't help how our apartment is right now but I do wish you and your husband luck on your journey
As always, you have shown so much evidence for your theories that I am still astonished on how you don’t have more subscribers! Keep making these fun videos for fun people!
That's a real possibility. Aside the emotional and financial strain, they probably did not want an adoptive child to feel like "secondary" or "a replacement".
As a woman who would have loved being a mother only to find that she can't, I can tell you that adoption is NOT always an option. My husband and I did tons of research on the different options available to us, but ultimately decided not to pursue adoption. I did enjoy your interpretation as to why Carl and Ellie didn't adopt and love that you were kind about it.
Maybe Carl & Ellie at some point knew that them being in love, although without children & trying to get to Paradise Falls together (even though it never happened)...they had to create their own Paradise Falls within themselves & as a couple. Sorry my grandparent's remind me a lot of Carl & Ellie. My grandma was always up for an adventure when she was really young. She traveled all over the world in her 20's. She settled down with my grandpa (who from the Navy traveled all over the globe) & married. Although, they couldn't have their own children they fostered & also adopted kids. My grandma died 5 years ago. My grandpa is alive & still as sweet as ever. After my grandma died my grandpa had to start doing more of the talking (ironically because my grandma had been the social butterfly between the two of them). Sorry for rambling I really love this movie & what it reminds me of lol
What if there is a third option? You said they didn't adopt because maybe they COULDN'T adopt (as in, they weren't eligible to adopt) or they didn't feel comfortable because of the times or just didn't consider that option after she learned she couldn't bear children because she couldn't bear the pain of raising a child that wasn't hers, but if you really think about it, there is a third option. What if, after receiving the devastating news that Ellie couldn't have a child of her own, they WANTED to adopt....but they just simply ran out of time? Adopting a child takes a lot of money, and as we saw in the montage at the beginning, they lived a humble life and kept saving their money, but then life happened and the savings kept being used for other things....a new roof, hospital bills, the car etc. and soon, they had to put aside their dreams and just live life. Maybe, as with their journey to Paradise Falls, their dream of adopting a child just never happened while she was alive. But if you notice, at the end of the movie, Ellie's life was not one lived in sadness. She never got her child and she never saw Paradise Falls, but she had her Carl and she was happy with that adventure. Their love was enough for her and when she was gone she wanted him to be happy again without her which is why he "adopted" Russell. Another thing to consider is, what if they DID adopt? If you look at the scene in the end when he's looking at the book and finds she filled it with all the pictures of them, one must ask the question "Who took those pictures?" Some of them are just of her, so you could argue he took them, but in some, they are together in the picture....and they look like really personal, family-type pictures because it is JUST of them....there is no one else in the pictures with them and we don't ever see them with friends after the wedding scene. So who captured those memories?
Thanks for making this video. I've heard people say, "Why didn't they just adopt?" as if adoption is cheap, easy, and right for everyone. They don't realize that adoption costs tens of thousands of dollars up front. Adopted children often have serious physical and mental health issues that would require extensive specialized treatment which would cost even more. I doubt a balloon seller and amusement park worker would have that money. In addition, at every stage of the adoption process, you can lose the kid. Even after they come live with you. Ellie and Carl already had to deal with the loss of their pregnancy. They might have thought that losing a kid would be too much to handle.
I think people assume adoption to be easier than it is, especially after losing a pregnancy. Look at it from Ellie's perspective. She's spent months feeling a little life grow within her, preparing to meet her and Carl's child and love it with all her heart... and suddenly something is wrong. She can feel it. They see the doctor, run exams and suddenly, she's in mourning. They both are, and Carl has witnessed this all. He's been working like mad to make a stable and happy home for a kid that can no longer be. That is not something you just say "let's just get a replacement kid" with any degree of sanity. Adoption is an option, sure, but I personally wouldn't bring a kid into a home where they were in every respect a backup plan. So them redirecting their sights to Paradise Falls once again was likely as much about healing their relationship as anything.
I was hesitant to watch this video, even though I watch almost every video you post, but this one hits far too close to home. I'm currently battling infertility and it's rough. One of the worst things that people tell me is to "just adopt." Adoption is a great thing and is something that we are considering down the road, but I still hate hearing people toss that idea out there as if that were to relieve every single ounce of pain caused by infertility. Anyhow, I believe your analysis is accurate and I definitely couldn't have voiced it nearly as well as you have. You have a wisdom far beyond your years. Keep up the great work!
So I wonder something, in Tangled the series we see that Rapunzel's hair and it's powers are tied to the rocks. Now if that other theory about Elsa being related to her is true could it be that Rapunzel took the bright healing power of the flower and Elsa was left over with the husk of those powers. A power more tied to the moon and the season mostly tied with it, winter and snow
DARTH DISNEY a drop of the moon, so like the flower that is a drop of the sun? If that is how it works than did the drop of the moon fail to heal? Or maybe gave the queen from tangled the disease that was incurable except for the drop of the sun
Coming from someone who was adopted due to similar reasons (My mom had a hysterectomy due to ovaric cancer) I can confirm that adoption is expensive and time consuming, and unfortunately even if they wanted to adopt, they would probably have to wait years on the "waiting list" like my parents would have had to do to adopt a second child like they wanted. How long? 18 years of waiting to adopt a second child. The time it took to get onto that list, before the inspection even happened, could be a huge factor of it as well, like it was in my parent's decision not to adopt more children.
I Definatly thought they lost the baby. I thought it was pretty obvious. Not many people decorate a room before knowing they are pregnant. After having lost a child of my own I understand the grief. Sometimes that is too much to try again, and maybe to painful to try adopting. We have a beautiful baby girl now, but I can see the loss being too hard to keep trying.
Great video Isaac!! You are so smart and creative!! You ask the questions that no one knew they needed the answer to, like "where do genies come from" or " who are mikes parents" Such interesting content and ideas. As soon as I see the titles to your videos I'm like " what, why dont I know the answer to this question and why didnt I ask it before?" You always brighten my day with your videos!! Please continue to make such well researched, thought out, and creative videos!! I know we all appreciate it 💖💖💖
Perhaps Carl and Ellie realized that having a child and starting a family wasn’t the adventure they were meant to have. At the end of the movie, Carl finds their old book and discovers Ellie filled it with pictures of their life together instead of saving them for South America with the note that read, “Thanks for the adventure. Now go have one of your own!” I believe Ellie had a revelation that her greatest adventure was being married to Carl. Every little moment captured in those pictures showed how even the seemingly most insignificant moments in life are the most memorable. Ellie grew content with the life she shared with Carl because their love was the best adventure of all, ultimately dying happy with her true love holding her hand and kissing her.
Amazing theory as usual...😊. P.s there's a new disney Channel original movie ZOMBIES you should make a theory about it. Like why Addison's hair is white. But yay know its just a theory.😊😊
I LOVE ZOMBIES! I've been listening to the songs since its release. Great question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have wanted a compelling question to answer and that's perfect. Probably will do it Tuesday. Thanks for watching!
I agree with the others that it was due to financial issues and with the stress and heartache of losing their baby..as you can see how Ellie had felt when finding out the news about what happened to their baby. Not to mention if they do adopt...it will take a lot of effort and stuff..plus they wouldn't be able to achieve their dream of going to Paradise falls and would have to set aside their dreams just to help raise their baby
I agree with both of your reasons that they did not adopt as they were not very well off and were extremely disappointed and sad about their inability to produce children. However, I can't help but think that the biggest reason was that they wanted a child of their OWN. Where I live, adopting a child is quite uncommon and if you are correct and Ellie and Carl learned about their infertility in the 1950s, perhaps they never considered adopting as they felt the idea of raising someone else's child unsuitable for them. Great job on the video!
Adoption is long and expensive, and I imagine there wasn't aa many regulation as there are now, so it can be super risky. That and adopting isnt the same as being pregnant. Especially when you wanted to be a parent. You had all this joy and preparation to invite someone you made into this world, but you were never able to met them, and you found out you cant ever do that again. Its takes a huge toll. It's also might be that Ellie is suffering from some sort of postpartum depression that kept persisting.
I want you to do a jungle book theory what happened to Mowgli's parents. Haunted mansion theory Can Sarah be related to Elizabeth and Mr Gracey because she looks like her. Finding Nemo theory how did Gill get his scars. Pirates of the Caribbean theory what happened to jack Sparrow father.
Hmm, maybe Carl & Elle just put the thought of children on the back burner and didn't really revisit the topic in depth anymore? For their time line, back in the day the man was viewed as the bread winner, but wives could also work holding a part time job. Maybe they entertained guests at home often in their youth or had a busy lifestlye and it didn't end up happening.. But remember Carl DOES get a child in some form..through Russel! I thought the end of the movie was so heartfelt how Carl became a stable and positive role model for Russel. Awesome to see that type of positivity going on, especially after alluding to the fact that Russel was in foster care for the time being. Thank you again for another great video!
I think that Ellie's health was a factor. Remember that she died significantly earlier than Carl of a mysterious illness. I think that Ellie was diagnosed with potentially fatal disease in the scene with the doctor and did not want to start raising a child only to deprive them of a mother prematurely.
I agree with the idea of it being too straining. I'm an adoptee, and let me tell you, I am very aware of how much effort my folks put into just qualifying to become adoption parents! (Then again I'm an international adoptee too, so that might be another layer of stress on its own...). Carl and Ellie wouldn't have been able to invest all that work into being able to take in a child by that channel. That's probably even why they went all gung ho about their Paradise Falls dream. If they couldn't have an adventure of a lifetime as loving parents, then what better way to move forward than by finding a new dream? This is such a bitter sweet movie, and this is such a great topic to discuss. Well done, Isaac.
They were very excited to have a child but when they found out that they could not have one they were too distraught to adopt. Carl wanted what was best for ellie. Carl didnt want to distraught his wife so he decided not to adopt and he also knew they couldnt afford to adopt
I think that there's a good chance that the adoption agencies rejected them. There's already the part you mentioned about how the adoption agencies might have concluded that from their lack of financial stability -- but their unconventional personalities would have also garnered prejudice from the adoption agencies. Who would be the biggest victim of this? Not Carl and Ellie, but an LGBTQI child awaiting adoption --- a child for whom Carl and Ellie would be perfect, loving, accepting parents - but who would instead be adopted (if at all) by the kind of couple that would send them to conversion therapy.
its money. adoption is really expensive. i think any sort of fertility treatments didnt really start until the mid 1970s ? "In 1977, Steptoe and Edwards successfully carried out a pioneering conception which resulted in the birth of the world's first baby to be conceived by IVF, Louise Brown on 25 July 1978, in Oldham General Hospital, Greater Manchester, UK." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vitro_fertilisation
I believe that while Ellie was adventurous, Carl was very cautious. He dreamed of one baby, Ellie dreamed of many. Perhaps he was reluctant to adopt. It would make his relationship with Russell more poignant if he finally pursued both the adventure of a trip to Paradise Falls and parenting (sort of) after he lost her. Fulfilling the adventures his beloved was never able to accomplish.
I think they just decided to concentrate on what they had which was each other and to pursue the rest of their lives achieving everything they knew they could do together where as if they tried to focus on one dream, that may never of come true, they would of spent years wasting the precious time they had. Another thing to consider is if you grew up through the war then you knew that life was precious and must be enjoyed to the full. So the negative road on the child dream was probably a sign to move on to the next dream.
I saw UP like 2 times but I know the beginning is sad, but you some how you make the sad part seem more interesting than sad!!! Also you said Roblock (Roblox anyone?)
I say the reason they didn't adopt is not because of personal views. Some couples, even now a-days, feel that if the child isn't their own, then it's not worth the struggle. That's why many don't adopt, because they feel they could never love a child that neither helped to create as much as one they made themselves.
I always figured they hadn't adopted because of the system., though I wasn't sure of how it worked in their time. It is one of the main reasons people choose not to adopt or adopt internationally, as it is usually very tiring. Sometimes you're even legally forced to give the child up, to a "more fitting family" or their biological one.
As a person who was adopted I do feel blessed!!!! U r right adopting isn’t for everyone. It’s more expensive now then it was in the 1980s. I k when my neices were adopted as well they did have to look into my brother and such to make sure the house is safe. They were adopted from the U.S. but I am biased towards international adoption. But I am all for adoption!
I surmise to had a lot to do with the trauma of losing their first child. After all the dream of going to Paradise Falls was more for them than it would've been if they had been a family unit.Knowing that they strived to continue their persuit of reaching their first dream together. That was until she passed away and Carl had to go it alone.
Hey Wotso Videos. I think that was a good theory you had about why Carl & Ellie couldn't adopt a child, but if they really wanted a child that badly & couldn't adopt, why not consider Fostering instead? Perhaps they actually did foster children but the movie deliberaltely left out or would not put in scenes where a Social Worker would drop off &/or pick up the kids in question. Plus the scene where Russell the Boy Scout showed up the 1st time on Carl's doorstep, maybe he was the son of a fostered child he & Ellie raised but neither Carl or Russell recognised each other. Another theory I have is what about Carl & Ellie's relatives? If a relation (or both) on either side of the family had died (or was unable to care for) & a child was in need of a home, they'd have jumped at the chance of taking in their Niece/Nephew/Cousin's Child & giving him/her the home that was so badly needed.
I think eli was in the hospital maternity ward being told that they wouldn't bring their baby home because it either died after birth or was born stillborn.
I be trying to tell these people who look down on adults that still watch Disney & Pixar, these movies are not just for kids. UP was very mature! I have more respect for this film now starting life with the man I love, than I did watching it as a little girl.
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She was infertile and he was disabled, as well as them struggling financially so they were disqualified
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What if they were so set on getting to Paradise Falls that maybe adopting was the plan after. Maybe they didn't feel any other place in the world would be good enough for raising a child.
up is sad cause life is sad ;-;
If Carl and Eddie adopt a child, this would alter the movie a little bit. Not letting the house go up with those balloons. Never meeting our friendly adventure scout. Most important of all never meeting that colorful bird. What was that bird in the movie? Could it be the Dodo? or Was the a relic from a prehistoric era?
Chances are they didn't adopt because it's expensive, and like you said, they weren't well to do. I think the miscarriage is very plausible as well and there's a big reason for that. (Warning, this is about to get deep and possibly very depressing for some people)
The scene where Elli is sitting in the yard just staring. Hearing you're infernal is a big downer, but not that kind of downer. Women don't sit in the yard on a dining room chair and stare into space because of simple infertility. They stare into space because of losing their baby. Chances are that she was about 3-4 months pregnant, and when she went in for a check up they found out she had lost the baby. That is devastating, and would likely send her into a serious depression the we don't even know how long it lasted.
Super depressing, but very plausible.
Love your videos by the way. Great brain food sometimes.
Meagan Shupe I do agree with you on the miscarriage part, in that I do think she had one but mainly because of the way the doctor visits were shown. I do have a different look on the infertility thing though. Infertility is one very heart breaking thing, it makes you feel broken inside and it's shattering. I believe it is completely believable that it can cause deep depression. Infertility takes your choice away, can make you feel inferior, and can put great strain on relationships. It is hard and only those going through it or have gone through it can truly understand.
Samantha Stokes my entire family has major fertility issues. My grandmother was told she could never get pregnant and by some miracle ended up with my mom. I've been told multiple times that it may be difficult if not impossible to conceive naturally or at all due to cancer treatments from when I was 18. It's upsetting, but much easier to get through than a miscarriage. And I just get the feeling Ellie wouldn't be the type of woman to let it stop her. Not to say that who don are weak, just that it doesn't effect all women that way. A miscarriage, however, almost universally does.
It’s also possible that she miscarried and complications from the miscarriage caused infertility. That’s a double whammy that can be hard to recover from.
Its entirely possible that its the miscarriage itself that made her unable to have a child, or even worse she could still get pregnant but she'd likely miscarriage again or have other complications that threaten her life. Giving birth is still quite an ordeal even with modern medical assistance and some women's bodies are just not up to taking the strain.
I disagree with one thing: Usually you would know when you have a miscarriage even before you go see a doctor.
First off, it wasn't a simple case of infertility, that was a miscarriage. It clearly shows the two of them setting up a nursery, and no one does that unless they're pregnant. I've never known anyone set up a nursery when they were simply planning.
Second, An adoption is very costly and very difficult. Doing it at any point in your life is hard, much less doing it after a miscarriage. A miscarriage can be devastating on a couple, sometimes to the point where they completely give up on becoming a parent.
I remember going to see up for the first time and I always assumed Ellie did have a miscarriage
RunnersoftheMaze I never put that together until now
RunnersoftheMaze I think she did have a misscarage but lost her fertility from it ,from some kind of complication.
I always assumed tubal pregnancy
I thought the same thing too
I guess Disney left that up for interpretion
I think all the stress made them decide not to pursue adoption. Financial strain is also possible. Touching video, Issac. Up is an amazing film. With D3 coming I would love to see more Descendants related videos. Queen Leah maybe?
queendsheena1. I think that was a good theory Wotso Videos had about why Carl & Ellie couldn't have or adopt a child, but if they really wanted a child that badly & couldn't adopt, why not consider Fostering instead? Perhaps they actually did foster children but the movie deliberaltely left out or would not put in scenes where a Social Worker would drop off &/or pick up the kids in question. Plus the scene where Russell the Boy Scout showed up the 1st time on Carl's doorstep, maybe he was the son of a fostered child he & Ellie raised but neither Carl or Russell recognised each other. Another theory I have is what about Carl & Ellie's relatives? If a relation (or both) on either side of the family had died (or was unable to care for) & a child was in need of a home, they'd have jumped at the chance of taking in their Niece/Nephew/Cousin's Child & giving him/her the home that was so badly needed.
I was pretty sure it was a stillborn. That makes it all the more depressing... Man. Up was WAY more mature than we realized...
I wonder if they are too devastated to pursue adoption. Their child died while stillborn. So adopting only remained them of that experience.
I doubt it. She wasn't shown to be noticeably pregnant or giving birth although we know she most likely got pregnant and even if that happened it wouldn't mean she was infertile since she was still able to carry it full term. It looks more to me like they went to the doctor for a regular check up for the baby and was told they lost it due to infertility issues. (although can infertile women even get pregnant? I think she was though and I'm just looking too far into it.) Although losing a child st all (and maybe having even more unseen failed attempts at pregnancy as most couples with fertility problems do) still could've been enough to make them not want to adopt. And it's also possible that they were a bit older by the time they knew for sure they couldn't have one (age does make it a bit harder as well) and felt too old to adopt at that point as the process takes a while anyway. Personally though I believe the theory that Riley and Andy's moms (from Inside out and Toy story) were Carl's children from a previous relationship he had with a women named Emma Jean who they stayed close to over the years so they ultimately decided that even though Ellie wanted her own children that his children being in their life was ultimately enough for them. If you don't know what I mean though, look it up. The super carlin brothers did a video on the theory and the director of Inside out confirmed who Emma Jean was in an interview with them. It's really interesting and there's a lot to it, I just wouldn't be able to explain it all in one comment.
+The Media Raptor I think it was a miscarriage and that caused Ellie to not be able to conceive after that, it can happen to some women I've heard of it before, since miscarriages can cause damage to a woman's reproductive system. :(
I dont know if the baby was stillborn, but im pretry sure that she was not infertile. They loss a child, if you are infertile, you can not get pregnat. I dont know why ppl think they can have one. They loss one and it was very traumatic for her, so she didnt wanted to suffer again.
My impression was always it was a miscarriage or stillborn... The face of Ellie sitting outside was more that just that of someone who couldn't have a child... It's that of someone who lost one. And if it was a particularly bad miscarriage, it could have rendered her infertile to boot.
My stepfather was adopted around the era Ellie and Carl would have. The reasons you give, while legitimate, are similar to his adoption story:
1. Miscarriage - his parents had over 6-7 of them. It was so sad. When his father passed away, I found letters they wrote to each other where she writes, "I love you, but if you need to find a new girl who can give you a family, I understand." The reply letter was so beautiful and romantic, "You are my girl, my only love. I wouldn't and couldn't be anyone else. Don't feel bad or blame yourself, you can't help what your body does. Take care of my girl and don't risk it anymore to make me happy. You are my happiness."😭💖
She had 7 miscarriages in less than five years - I'm fairly certain more.
They were not "well off" but did adopt not one but TWO children that they adored. (Almost 50 years and they still had saved report cards, baby teeth, ect.)
If the adventure that Carl and Ellie wanted was a baby, they were innovative, creative, driven, and in love enough to have made it happen.
We only see ONE trip at an OBG with her crying. My theory is that the miscarriage damaged her reproductively and she (like my Stepfather's adoptive mother) didn't feel like "a woman" anymore. Leading to the depression we see later.
My best guess is that even the THOUGHT of a child was too painful, so Carl reminded her of what made him love her in the first place - her adventurous spirit and lofty dreams (as an adoption would further remind her of the dream cut short, never carrying a child made from their love and bringing it to term.)
In short, it would have been a painful reminder of her loss and possibly called in to question her dreams and adventurous spirit after "failing", knowing she couldn't even try again and possibly a physically painful miscarriage(s) that may have led to her "losing" a part of herself.
Carl reminds her that she's still his Ellie - no matter what biological changes, and she is still whole and perfect in his eyes with a revelation similar to what he felt when he finally gets her message in the adventure book.
Just speaking from the stories and letters of a real-life love similar to Carl and Ellie's.
The similarities were so strong actually, that it's the reason why I can't watch UP ever again. It's too close to home.
Post-partum depression doesn't require a healthy pregnancy-her miscarriage could have done emotional harm, along with what you described.
That is so beautiful! Thanks for sharing! ^^
@@kaytlinjustis5643 I'm glad you liked it. (I had forgotten I had written this here.)
There were many other amazing letters between the two of them that, while on a different subject, were very touching and romantic. (The fact that they had been carefully saved and organized in chronological order despite many times the recipient was overseas...)
With all of the details, of which I've only gone into the tip of the iceberg, it makes for an amazing love story.
I would consider adapting it; but it's not mine to inherit.
I think it was their personalities that kept them from adopting, Ellie probably decided that if she couldn't have a child she'd just make all the other children happy.
But that would be an even bigger reason to adopt or foster?? To make other children happy....
I think they just wanted to try to focus on adventuring. It would be harder to that with a child. Also after finding out you can't have kids maybe they were worried some how the adoption wouldn't go through or the parent would change there mind. They didnt want to get hurt again.
Jillygirl27 I like ur theory 😸💯
that's probably it
As someone who's struggling with infertility, I can relate to ellie and carl's situation. Adoption is not a cure for infertility. The trauma when I find out I probably cannot have biological children, never have the chance to experience pregnancy and breastfeeding, the loss of my genetic, all cannot be erased just by adoption. Adoption is an amazing and beautiful thing but I have to be fully healed from infertility trauma before diving into it. I cannot raise a child when I'm still grieving.
When you’re ready please do consider, we’re childless for 11 years and finally adopted, and our Matteo is the most beautiful gift from God ❤
I feel like maybe Ellie might've had an infertility condition that required a hysterectomy, cause back in those days if you had anything wrong with your reproductive organs and you were female, you had them removed 9 times out of 10. This might've thrown her into a depression that would resurface anytime they thought about the idea of becoming parents again, as losing organs like that can hit you hard. Or disregarding the hysterectomy part, she still could have become extremely depressed and thinking about children any further would throw her down that dark spiral again and again. As much as we wanted them to be happy with kids, just as the sequence shows, life unfortunately doesn't always go that way, but they made in through together.
As a woman who had a hysterectomy at 24 due to cancer it did send me into a deep depression. At 26 now my boyfriend is all for adoption after we're married thinking about it does just make me fall down into that spiral of sadness. As it possibly was for Ellie as well, it's not something many people deal with. Though I never had the chance of becoming pregnant before it all happened.
I think this is a very strong theory. Fertility issues run strong in my family and one perticular one i wanna talk about for this topic is scarring/hemorrhaging. This can either be caused by pregnancy (or loss of one) or can be the cause of the loss but essencially its the phenomenon of having a very severe bleed or rupture during a miscarriage which can in turn cut off blood supply to the reproductive organs. In minor cases this can cause scar tissue which makes it diffucult or impossible for pregnancies afterwards to 'stick' or to death of the organ, which would require removal. This is more common during the 2nd trimester, and is usually very complicated, making the loss even more traumatic. The psychological impact is even stronger than the already awful circumstance because if you are left with a removal just being around children can feel like a reminder of what you can absolutely never have and even if it is merely that it will be more difficult the thought of trying again and running the risk can be so upsetting and stressful it's often easier to avoid it altogether. It can basically be so traumatizing it can bring on a form of PTSD. I've watched many women in my family go through this and have had my own struggles with it that i can see very easily mirrored in elle; the excitement for a family, the emotional outburst when the loss is fresh, the quiet depression as time passes, and the eventual regain of happiness only after moving on from it. For some the pain and trauma is enough that they do not want to or cannot handle being around or caring for children. Sometimes it changes your feelings on the subject or sometimes letting go altogether is the only way to heal.
If Ellie and Carl didnt make you fight back tears you have no heart
So true
HK the first time I saw up I was really young like 6 or 7 and I didn’t cry because I didn’t understand that scene at the doctor’s office, I knew they wanted a baby but after the doctor’s office I didn’t know why they didn’t get one, but now that I know what everything is, it’s really sad.
HK I didn't even fight it, I let it all out
HK That movie me made me cry in Spanish class. A tough gal like me crying over a movie. Lol
when you realize you have no heart
I think they might have attempted to adopt, but they probably came across a lot of obstacles with the adoption process
This answered my question that I've been thinking about a LONG time
Glad I could bring this to you then!!! Thanks for watching!
The montage gets me every time 😭 but this was such a good video! ☺️
I think the reason why it was just too heartbreaking for them to adopt
cassyluv Sanchez i dont want to ruin the hundred likes😔
Some Randome Person Mahoney just ruin it spill the beans
cassyluv Sanchez but adoption isn’t heart breaking. It brings joy to peoples lives, and helps other children
Adoption isn't heartbreaking for the adoptive parents (actually, that's not entirely true, it's complicated), but deciding to give up on having biological kids is heartbreaking. Any therapist will tell you it's a full-on grieving process. While my own infertility pushed me to consider adoption, many others in the infertility community just can't handle (or even necessarily desire) raising a child not biologically related to them.
To everyone saying adoption makes you happy....some people aren't emotionally able to make the decision after being told they can not have kids or having a miscarage... my wife and I went through this when we lost our baby girl
Oh see I was wondering what the answer to that question was and now I know
I often wondered why they didn't adopt. Also hi Issac!!!! 😊
I'm glad I could answer this for you then and hello!! Thanks for watching!
Amazing video, Isaac! Congrats 👏🏻👏🏻 I think that the fact that Ellie was pregnant and lost her baby makes a lot of sense, giving the nursery room, and I think that the emotional strain was just to much for them to take. Thus, they decided not to chase their dream of having a baby, but instead to chase their dream of traveling to South America. I really love Up ❤️ (the first minutes always make me cry) Carl and Ellie's love story is an amazing example of love and union in a relationship!
Another thing is maybe they DID Try to adopt but as you said could have been deemed unfit to adopt.
did you know Pete Docter the director of this film also directed Monsters inc and Inside Out?
Yeah! He's an awesome guy! Thanks for watching!
And Thanks for the Awesome theories, they are truly analytical.
Wotso Videos oh ok I guess I learned something new
Never clicked on a video so fast! XD
I learn a lot from your vids, Isaac good job!
I'm happy you get a lot out of the videos! And I'm happy you wanted to watch it right away :D Thanks for watching!
I do agree that money could the biggest factor and the regulations they have for adopting. That's something my husband and I are currently dealing since I do want children but cannot due to health reasons. I do want to adopt eventually but our money situation isn't the greatest at this time (gotta love medical bills and student loans). So this video really hits home with me. Also I didn't know you are in my neighbor state (I'm from Minnesota; love how you say it tbh).
I am in the same boat. Look into Fostering and then adoption. Some states actually help you if you Foster and then adopt the child later on. I found out about this and I am thankful so my husband and I can raise a child together.
I've read about and kind of thought about fostering as well. It also doesn't help how our apartment is right now but I do wish you and your husband luck on your journey
HeartGirl26
How about mentoring childern?
I actually did work with kids for a bit but ended up getting really sick as well it made me want my own child more
Carl and Ellie literally one of the most sadest stories I ever seen
Christopher Robbins Full story
I gotta do some type of Winnie the Pooh video!! Thanks for watching!
As always, you have shown so much evidence for your theories that I am still astonished on how you don’t have more subscribers! Keep making these fun videos for fun people!
Hopefully I just keep gaining more over time if I put everything I have into each video. Will do!! Thanks for watching!
Maybe they didn’t adopt because it reminded them of their infertility 😰 I don’t know 😅
This is what I had always assumed
That's a real possibility. Aside the emotional and financial strain, they probably did not want an adoptive child to feel like "secondary" or "a replacement".
As a woman who would have loved being a mother only to find that she can't, I can tell you that adoption is NOT always an option. My husband and I did tons of research on the different options available to us, but ultimately decided not to pursue adoption. I did enjoy your interpretation as to why Carl and Ellie didn't adopt and love that you were kind about it.
Maybe Carl & Ellie at some point knew that them being in love, although without children & trying to get to Paradise Falls together (even though it never happened)...they had to create their own Paradise Falls within themselves & as a couple.
Sorry my grandparent's remind me a lot of Carl & Ellie. My grandma was always up for an adventure when she was really young. She traveled all over the world in her 20's. She settled down with my grandpa (who from the Navy traveled all over the globe) & married. Although, they couldn't have their own children they fostered & also adopted kids. My grandma died 5 years ago. My grandpa is alive & still as sweet as ever. After my grandma died my grandpa had to start doing more of the talking (ironically because my grandma had been the social butterfly between the two of them).
Sorry for rambling I really love this movie & what it reminds me of lol
What if there is a third option? You said they didn't adopt because maybe they COULDN'T adopt (as in, they weren't eligible to adopt) or they didn't feel comfortable because of the times or just didn't consider that option after she learned she couldn't bear children because she couldn't bear the pain of raising a child that wasn't hers, but if you really think about it, there is a third option. What if, after receiving the devastating news that Ellie couldn't have a child of her own, they WANTED to adopt....but they just simply ran out of time? Adopting a child takes a lot of money, and as we saw in the montage at the beginning, they lived a humble life and kept saving their money, but then life happened and the savings kept being used for other things....a new roof, hospital bills, the car etc. and soon, they had to put aside their dreams and just live life. Maybe, as with their journey to Paradise Falls, their dream of adopting a child just never happened while she was alive. But if you notice, at the end of the movie, Ellie's life was not one lived in sadness. She never got her child and she never saw Paradise Falls, but she had her Carl and she was happy with that adventure. Their love was enough for her and when she was gone she wanted him to be happy again without her which is why he "adopted" Russell.
Another thing to consider is, what if they DID adopt? If you look at the scene in the end when he's looking at the book and finds she filled it with all the pictures of them, one must ask the question "Who took those pictures?" Some of them are just of her, so you could argue he took them, but in some, they are together in the picture....and they look like really personal, family-type pictures because it is JUST of them....there is no one else in the pictures with them and we don't ever see them with friends after the wedding scene. So who captured those memories?
Thanks for making this video. I've heard people say, "Why didn't they just adopt?" as if adoption is cheap, easy, and right for everyone. They don't realize that adoption costs tens of thousands of dollars up front. Adopted children often have serious physical and mental health issues that would require extensive specialized treatment which would cost even more. I doubt a balloon seller and amusement park worker would have that money.
In addition, at every stage of the adoption process, you can lose the kid. Even after they come live with you. Ellie and Carl already had to deal with the loss of their pregnancy. They might have thought that losing a kid would be too much to handle.
I think people assume adoption to be easier than it is, especially after losing a pregnancy. Look at it from Ellie's perspective. She's spent months feeling a little life grow within her, preparing to meet her and Carl's child and love it with all her heart... and suddenly something is wrong. She can feel it. They see the doctor, run exams and suddenly, she's in mourning. They both are, and Carl has witnessed this all. He's been working like mad to make a stable and happy home for a kid that can no longer be. That is not something you just say "let's just get a replacement kid" with any degree of sanity. Adoption is an option, sure, but I personally wouldn't bring a kid into a home where they were in every respect a backup plan. So them redirecting their sights to Paradise Falls once again was likely as much about healing their relationship as anything.
Cus if they'd adopted, it would have derailed from the plot of the film? hehe
Mhmm but I always like the in world answers. Thanks for watching!
If they were rich like billionaires they would’ve been a difference story
I was hesitant to watch this video, even though I watch almost every video you post, but this one hits far too close to home. I'm currently battling infertility and it's rough. One of the worst things that people tell me is to "just adopt." Adoption is a great thing and is something that we are considering down the road, but I still hate hearing people toss that idea out there as if that were to relieve every single ounce of pain caused by infertility. Anyhow, I believe your analysis is accurate and I definitely couldn't have voiced it nearly as well as you have. You have a wisdom far beyond your years. Keep up the great work!
What do Carl’s leaves do?
They Russell
How long did it take Carl’s hero to build his technology?
Several Muntz
Twin Kids aha I forgot to laugh
Stephanie Hall Aha but you remembered how to be rude
Stephanie Hall Probably something that’s easy for you to remember
So I wonder something, in Tangled the series we see that Rapunzel's hair and it's powers are tied to the rocks. Now if that other theory about Elsa being related to her is true could it be that Rapunzel took the bright healing power of the flower and Elsa was left over with the husk of those powers. A power more tied to the moon and the season mostly tied with it, winter and snow
DARTH DISNEY a drop of the moon, so like the flower that is a drop of the sun? If that is how it works than did the drop of the moon fail to heal? Or maybe gave the queen from tangled the disease that was incurable except for the drop of the sun
Coming from someone who was adopted due to similar reasons (My mom had a hysterectomy due to ovaric cancer) I can confirm that adoption is expensive and time consuming, and unfortunately even if they wanted to adopt, they would probably have to wait years on the "waiting list" like my parents would have had to do to adopt a second child like they wanted. How long? 18 years of waiting to adopt a second child.
The time it took to get onto that list, before the inspection even happened, could be a huge factor of it as well, like it was in my parent's decision not to adopt more children.
I Definatly thought they lost the baby. I thought it was pretty obvious. Not many people decorate a room before knowing they are pregnant.
After having lost a child of my own I understand the grief. Sometimes that is too much to try again, and maybe to painful to try adopting.
We have a beautiful baby girl now, but I can see the loss being too hard to keep trying.
Great video Isaac!! You are so smart and creative!! You ask the questions that no one knew they needed the answer to, like "where do genies come from" or " who are mikes parents" Such interesting content and ideas. As soon as I see the titles to your videos I'm like " what, why dont I know the answer to this question and why didnt I ask it before?" You always brighten my day with your videos!! Please continue to make such well researched, thought out, and creative videos!! I know we all appreciate it 💖💖💖
Thanks for answering all my questions
My pleasure!! Thanks for watching!
Love the map, “Watso is here” for Wisconsin haha
I 💖💖💖💖💖 your mysteries are u a disney dictective
All those emotions from this 4 minute clip and yet no words.
Perhaps Carl and Ellie realized that having a child and starting a family wasn’t the adventure they were meant to have. At the end of the movie, Carl finds their old book and discovers Ellie filled it with pictures of their life together instead of saving them for South America with the note that read, “Thanks for the adventure. Now go have one of your own!” I believe Ellie had a revelation that her greatest adventure was being married to Carl. Every little moment captured in those pictures showed how even the seemingly most insignificant moments in life are the most memorable. Ellie grew content with the life she shared with Carl because their love was the best adventure of all, ultimately dying happy with her true love holding her hand and kissing her.
Amazing theory as usual...😊. P.s there's a new disney Channel original movie ZOMBIES you should make a theory about it. Like why Addison's hair is white. But yay know its just a theory.😊😊
I LOVE ZOMBIES! I've been listening to the songs since its release. Great question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have wanted a compelling question to answer and that's perfect. Probably will do it Tuesday. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for replying😏😏
What about who is Addison's grandmother. What happened to Zed's mother.
Hannah Horne right that too!!😊
Ugh, when that movie aired on TV my nieces were OBSESSED with it! Also, I hated it. The zombies looked more like Joker cosplayers than actual zombies.
It’s midnight and I’m sitting in my room crying over freaking Carl and Ellie, I think I’ve peaked in life 😭
I agree with the others that it was due to financial issues and with the stress and heartache of losing their baby..as you can see how Ellie had felt when finding out the news about what happened to their baby. Not to mention if they do adopt...it will take a lot of effort and stuff..plus they wouldn't be able to achieve their dream of going to Paradise falls and would have to set aside their dreams just to help raise their baby
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Love the theory! The opening of Up is so sad! 😭
Your videos are always great but this one was especially good! Great job Isaac I loved this video, I think it's one of your best!!
People are saying it's very expensive to adopt, but they're forgetting he bought like a billion balloons...
I agree with both of your reasons that they did not adopt as they were not very well off and were extremely disappointed and sad about their inability to produce children. However, I can't help but think that the biggest reason was that they wanted a child of their OWN. Where I live, adopting a child is quite uncommon and if you are correct and Ellie and Carl learned about their infertility in the 1950s, perhaps they never considered adopting as they felt the idea of raising someone else's child unsuitable for them.
Great job on the video!
Actually, in the movie’s timeline takes place in the 1970s, the end credits showed Carl and Russell going to see Star Wars
I could barely watch this without crying 😭 their relationship is so sweet and meaningful
I love getting out of work and getting a notification that you posted another video. I love you, Isaac!
I had always assumed that Ellie had miscarried and it was too difficult to keep trying after the loss of their baby
Adoption is long and expensive, and I imagine there wasn't aa many regulation as there are now, so it can be super risky. That and adopting isnt the same as being pregnant. Especially when you wanted to be a parent. You had all this joy and preparation to invite someone you made into this world, but you were never able to met them, and you found out you cant ever do that again. Its takes a huge toll. It's also might be that Ellie is suffering from some sort of postpartum depression that kept persisting.
I love your videos so much. They brighten up my day.😊😊😊😊
Glad I can add some brightness to your day! Thanks for watching!
i think the biggest thing is that adopting a kid is pretty expensive, Karl and Ellie probably couldn't afford to
If they adopted, we wouldn't have the story.
Also, I don't think fertility treatments really existed back then.
I want you to do a jungle book theory what happened to Mowgli's parents. Haunted mansion theory Can Sarah be related to Elizabeth and Mr Gracey because she looks like her. Finding Nemo theory how did Gill get his scars. Pirates of the Caribbean theory what happened to jack Sparrow father.
Woooo love these videos
Thank you so much!! Glad you like them. Thanks for watching!
I love up!!
Twin Kids ?
Hmm, maybe Carl & Elle just put the thought of children on the back burner and didn't really revisit the topic in depth anymore? For their time line, back in the day the man was viewed as the bread winner, but wives could also work holding a part time job. Maybe they entertained guests at home often in their youth or had a busy lifestlye and it didn't end up happening.. But remember Carl DOES get a child in some form..through Russel! I thought the end of the movie was so heartfelt how Carl became a stable and positive role model for Russel. Awesome to see that type of positivity going on, especially after alluding to the fact that Russel was in foster care for the time being. Thank you again for another great video!
I love Up theories! Keep it up!
Will do! I really like this movie! Thanks for watching!
Wotso Videos I love watching your videos! You are the best!!!
Am I the only one that was sad because I remembered the start of the movie and them?😭😢
This was such a sad episode.... but still great.
I think that Ellie's health was a factor. Remember that she died significantly earlier than Carl of a mysterious illness. I think that Ellie was diagnosed with potentially fatal disease in the scene with the doctor and did not want to start raising a child only to deprive them of a mother prematurely.
I agree with the idea of it being too straining. I'm an adoptee, and let me tell you, I am very aware of how much effort my folks put into just qualifying to become adoption parents! (Then again I'm an international adoptee too, so that might be another layer of stress on its own...). Carl and Ellie wouldn't have been able to invest all that work into being able to take in a child by that channel.
That's probably even why they went all gung ho about their Paradise Falls dream. If they couldn't have an adventure of a lifetime as loving parents, then what better way to move forward than by finding a new dream?
This is such a bitter sweet movie, and this is such a great topic to discuss. Well done, Isaac.
I can’t watch the montage without crying I’m seen it at least 15 times now every time though still I cry
A nice video you've made and suddenly flashback to UP movie makes my house flood.
I should have known you're a Wisconsinite because I'm one myself! In obsessed with Disney too and I watch your videos all the time
Awesome video!
They were very excited to have a child but when they found out that they could not have one they were too distraught to adopt. Carl wanted what was best for ellie. Carl didnt want to distraught his wife so he decided not to adopt and he also knew they couldnt afford to adopt
I think that there's a good chance that the adoption agencies rejected them. There's already the part you mentioned about how the adoption agencies might have concluded that from their lack of financial stability -- but their unconventional personalities would have also garnered prejudice from the adoption agencies.
Who would be the biggest victim of this? Not Carl and Ellie, but an LGBTQI child awaiting adoption --- a child for whom Carl and Ellie would be perfect, loving, accepting parents - but who would instead be adopted (if at all) by the kind of couple that would send them to conversion therapy.
I almost teared up watching the montage in the back ground while u were talking Issac
its money. adoption is really expensive.
i think any sort of fertility treatments didnt really start until the mid 1970s ? "In 1977, Steptoe and Edwards successfully carried out a pioneering conception which resulted in the birth of the world's first baby to be conceived by IVF, Louise Brown on 25 July 1978, in Oldham General Hospital, Greater Manchester, UK." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vitro_fertilisation
Who else started crying when he put the up theme song in the background.😭😭😭
I believe that while Ellie was adventurous, Carl was very cautious. He dreamed of one baby, Ellie dreamed of many. Perhaps he was reluctant to adopt. It would make his relationship with Russell more poignant if he finally pursued both the adventure of a trip to Paradise Falls and parenting (sort of) after he lost her. Fulfilling the adventures his beloved was never able to accomplish.
I think they just decided to concentrate on what they had which was each other and to pursue the rest of their lives achieving everything they knew they could do together where as if they tried to focus on one dream, that may never of come true, they would of spent years wasting the precious time they had. Another thing to consider is if you grew up through the war then you knew that life was precious and must be enjoyed to the full. So the negative road on the child dream was probably a sign to move on to the next dream.
ChimpManZ1264 love your theory!! I think the same about it!
I’ve been wondering for a long time. Thanks for answering my questions
200k subs!! Omg! Dude well done! I remember when you were at 40k subs! You have come such a long way so proud!!
this is a great video Isaac!
also, 5:00 is MEEEE
I saw UP like 2 times but I know the beginning is sad, but you some how you make the sad part seem more interesting than sad!!! Also you said Roblock (Roblox anyone?)
I love the history that you put in your videos. Also hi from fellow Wisconsinite and l agree with the theory.🙂
Honestly, the fear of not being able to bond with your adopted child who isn't ACTUALLY yours is completely understandable.
I think you are correct with the emotional/financial strain reasoning. It's tough to adopt as it is, and they probably weren't prepared for that.
I say the reason they didn't adopt is not because of personal views. Some couples, even now a-days, feel that if the child isn't their own, then it's not worth the struggle. That's why many don't adopt, because they feel they could never love a child that neither helped to create as much as one they made themselves.
I always figured they hadn't adopted because of the system., though I wasn't sure of how it worked in their time. It is one of the main reasons people choose not to adopt or adopt internationally, as it is usually very tiring. Sometimes you're even legally forced to give the child up, to a "more fitting family" or their biological one.
As a person who was adopted I do feel blessed!!!! U r right adopting isn’t for everyone. It’s more expensive now then it was in the 1980s. I k when my neices were adopted as well they did have to look into my brother and such to make sure the house is safe. They were adopted from the U.S. but I am biased towards international adoption. But I am all for adoption!
Amazing Isaac!!
I surmise to had a lot to do with the trauma of losing their first child. After all the dream of going to Paradise Falls was more for them than it would've been if they had been a family unit.Knowing that they strived to continue their persuit of reaching their first dream together. That was until she passed away and Carl had to go it alone.
Just watched this at 9am. I’m crying through it and also just realized instead of making coffee I’m eating ice cream and crying. Oh Up!
I'm a simple person. I see an Up video, i click.
Hey Wotso Videos. I think that was a good theory you had about why Carl & Ellie couldn't adopt a child, but if they really wanted a child that badly & couldn't adopt, why not consider Fostering instead? Perhaps they actually did foster children but the movie deliberaltely left out or would not put in scenes where a Social Worker would drop off &/or pick up the kids in question. Plus the scene where Russell the Boy Scout showed up the 1st time on Carl's doorstep, maybe he was the son of a fostered child he & Ellie raised but neither Carl or Russell recognised each other. Another theory I have is what about Carl & Ellie's relatives? If a relation (or both) on either side of the family had died (or was unable to care for) & a child was in need of a home, they'd have jumped at the chance of taking in their Niece/Nephew/Cousin's Child & giving him/her the home that was so badly needed.
I think eli was in the hospital maternity ward being told that they wouldn't bring their baby home because it either died after birth or was born stillborn.
Hey Issac so here is an Idea for a new video that you could make 9:04 😉😉😉😉😉
I have been waiting for this video for ever
Adoption isn't a substitute for growing and bonding with a baby, then nursing them and seeing you and your SO's DNA mixed together.
You can still bond with a baby that not yours
2:34 the way he says Minnesota gets me every time
I be trying to tell these people who look down on adults that still watch Disney & Pixar, these movies are not just for kids. UP was very mature! I have more respect for this film now starting life with the man I love, than I did watching it as a little girl.