Classrooms in Crisis: Outbursts plaguing Oregon classrooms
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- Опубліковано 3 лют 2019
- Teachers across Oregon say they are seeing outbursts and disruptive behavior from students at an unprecedented rate.
The situation has gotten so dire that the Oregon Education Association - the union that represents 44,000 teachers across the state - plans to release a report this week calling classroom disruptions a “significant and growing problem in Oregon classrooms.”
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If my dog bites someone, I'm held accountable. But if my kid bites or abuses a teacher I'm not held responsible?????
@Cyndi Rothrock is that some kind of point in your mind
100 years ago you would have been. Today we charge you with child abuse if you make any attempt to intervene.
No, how would that even make sense to you? You are not responsible for another humans actions even if it is your offspring. You are responsible for your dog because by law you have to secure your dog. If it becomes loose and bites then that is your failure to secure it. I can't believe you are comparing the two... as if humans and dogs are the same thing.
Lily Lily they are children, they do not know anything but their surroundings, discipline and teachings that have been given to them. If they are acting out it is because the parents are lazy pieces of shit who think it “child abuse” to spank or discipline a child when they do wrong. It I 100% the parents fault and they are children, treat them as such. They are nowhere close to being a person who is able to form opinions of their own or have a deeper outlook on their own actions as they haven’t even developed a frontal lobe yet needed for critical thinking. Stop acting as if you should treat them as adults with their own opinions that should be taken into account. They aren’t dogs but they still need to be taught and the parents held responsible for their actions.
My son kills someone and I’m not held accountable!?
Well of course not, it’s another human being, not your animal/pet
So, the one student who creates a disturbance (probably for attention) gets the whole room and attention of the teacher while every other student must leave? Sounds like a reward to me.
It is a reward. Especially when that kid is antisocial and look forward to spoiling activities for the other kids.
Sounds like a reward to me too! How did they ever come up with that one? Murphy's Law!
My kids would say when one kid acted up the whole class would get in trouble.
That's exactly what it is. And a further "devouring" of a child's psyche to boot.
This is absurd. How many well behaved students lose learning time for this nonsense. If they can’t behave, their parents should be handling that, not teachers.
I taught for 20 years. I decided to retire due to several problems. The very main problem was NO support from the administration. One incident was when the majority of young middle school boys started teasing a young girl in class about wanting to go to bed with her. They “heard” that she wanted to sleep all the time. The girl broke down sobbing uncontrollably in class. The boys just broke out laughing. I wrote up the boys bullying the girl. Of course I had to stop teaching, write up each behavioral, and send them to the office. The ISSP sent the boys back saying the principal said that this was not bullying. I was FUMING MAD!!! I found someone to watch my class while I went to the office. (You CAN NOT leave a student alone in the classroom by himself/herself.) I wanted to know if it wasn’t bullying what do you put. That’s when I learned that the principal DID NOT want anyone writing up a behavioral as bullying. 1. A record is kept and reported to the government on how many bullying incidents were at that school. 2. For every bullying incident reported, pages of documents had to be filled out. I also had to call each parent who was involved in the incident and let them know what had happened. After speaking to the girl’s father, he explained to me that the little boy she was seeing made sexual advances to her. She told her father what happened and he told the boy to never speak to his daughter again. That’s when the boy told his buddies all this crap about the girl.
Just because of pride, the principal rather see her school not get a “ black eye” than help this little girl’s esteem or the emotional dagger that was done to her. That gets me.
That’s just one!!! This one happened during state testing. All the students’ cell phones are to be left out the classroom in their book sack. This one boy sneaked his in his pocket. He pulled it out during testing. Of course the teacher wrote him up. NOTHING, NOTHING was done to the student. The principal warned every student before the test if they were caught with their cell phone, they would be punished severely. His cell phone was taken away and the parents had to pay $10 to pick it up. And of course, given back to the student.
When the principal will not support the teachers, students see this and know they can get away with murder!!!
I have friends who are teachers and they have similar stories. They also say dealing with the parents is a real problem. My generation, the teacher was always right and you respected the teacher. Nowadays it's never the kids fault and there is no accounting for their actions
Yeah, same at my kids school. We had to pull our kids out of Catholic school after 7 years because of bullies and a principal who protected them. My kid was traumatized from bullying by the end of the year. So now my kids are doing cyber school at home because every single one of the bullies was allowed back at school this fall, including the kid who sexually harassed and sexually assaulted a girl during the school day.
I see a disturbing correlation between this behavior with children in Portland and what is happening on the streets of Portland
Acting just like #Antifa
THIS ☝️ came here to make sure someone else could see it too.
Just think of what the workplace is going to be like.
You think??????
Yep
This is what a society in decline looks like.
Puffin Tuff--No, this is what a former POTUS, who is known as a "community organizer" is capable of orchestrating once he is no longer in office. Don't kid yourself about Obama, Jackson, La Raza, MECHA, and other groups are doing. These activities are orchestrated by the "community leaders" who know full well that, if their children are educated, the local "community leaders" will lose their control over the community and the likes of Jesse Jackson and others in other nationalities will lose their voting bloc (the correct spelling) with which to sway politicians.
@Truth-- “...remember the ladies, and be more generous and favorable to them than your ancestors. Do not put such unlimited power into the hands of the Husbands. Remember all Men would be tyrants if they could. If particular care and attention is not paid to the Ladies we are determined to foment a Rebellion, and will not hold ourselves bound by any Laws in which we have no voice, or Representation.”― Abigail Adams
**“The emancipation of woman will only be possible when woman can take part in production on a large, social scale, and domestic work no longer claims anything but an insignificant amount of her time.”
― Friedrich Engels, The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State
**"When a man gives his opinion, he's a man; when a woman gives her opinion, she's a bitch."
Bette Davis
No kidding... major decline. Reverse evolution.
This comment chain has AIDS.
PuffinTuff you’re absolutely correct! We no longer have control of the children.
When my dog takes a dump on the rug I just give him a treat...I can't figure out why he keeps pooping on the rug.
And if you were to discuss the occurrence with your dog, he wouldn't understand bc he simply lacks the intelligence and capacity to do so. Just like kids and Dementiacrats nowadays.
Good analogy!
vctjkhme Not really, my dog has plenty of food, plenty of water, fresh air and shelter. Many many other dogs behave well under the same circumstances. You should travel around the world and see how dogs are treated in Peru or Mexico or Indonesia.
@@1flashlite1 You soon will. That doesn't change when they come here from Peru.Mexico or Indonesia etc. Not to mention how some "cultures" treat women.
Do what the government does in our schools and generally how they handle everything. Give the dog 2 treats. If you give him enough good stuff he will do what you want.
I would think not disciplining the children in any way or not sending THEM out of the classroom, but rather doing everything around them/showing them massive attention only reinforces their behavior.
Its not that simple when dealing with violent behavior.
Teachers should not have to deal with this crap. I blame parents who do not handle issues with their children. When my child went to school she understood what the deal was. The same applied to me and my six siblings. We knew Lucille was not going to tolerate crap.
When there are NO rules at home, rules are meaningless in society.
alaskanmes
Impossible. Snowflakes don’t have brains.
@Truth God never existed.
@@whiskeycompany13 True, god doesn't exist but that doesn't mean the philosophy within the religious texts are meaningless. They're social and historical literature that uses "god" as a metaphorical lynch pin to meld together a fundamental understanding of the human psyche, culture, morality and personal destiny. Even many of the most ardent atheist philosophers say that modern, anti-Christian debaters only debate on the grounds of proving whether god is scientifically observable or not and therefore dismissing any and all discussion of the moral and cultural teachings within the religious texts. The veracity of god is completely meaningless, religions have never been about god but about people and this supreme deity was never anything more than a metaphor from forces outside our control, whether it's mother nature, climate, or our own irrational and volatile passions, religions were always about the discovery and illumination of human nature, we are not the advanced society that we think we are, we might have computers, cell phones, massive transportation systems, energy production, but what is inside the minds of modern people is still very primitive.
@J Wright
Logic, reason and common sense that’s who.
This was predicted far back as the Bible. Spare the rod spoil the child. Reference to loving discipline all around that. We predicted this for years and were laughed at. Well here it is.
Wow so preaching no boundaries and no accountability for decades is causing unruly children to run rampant.
Go figure! Right?
Excellent they got what they worked so hard for..
Shocking twist
Now imagine what Middle School and High School are like...
HAHAHA Time to pack my bags and move to another state with my haitian family!! (JK I live in Connecticut, currently in middle school)
"...something needs to change."
Me: ummmm, parenting? 🤔
A wise man once said...
YEETUS YEETUS
FETUS BEATUS
Schools are not for babysitting. Parents cannot take care of their kids it's obvious.
Ernest Mccollum .....they have so many kids that they can’t take care of them . Free medical to have babies is a bad idea... please stop having them because they are free!
Less psych drugs for the 5 years olds is a good start too.
What can parents do? Raise their children properly.
Sorry but the state forbids that and if you try they have CPS there to help send parents to re-education camps.
Parents are lazy now days. Don’t want to hurt their kids feelings. Want to be their friend..... You’re the parent not a friend.
Truth how is she racist?
I had a kid that had an outburst in class. He threw a book toward a teacher. They called me. After taking to him He said he was frustrated because she didn’t listen to him. I took him home and spanked him. He got grounded for 2 weeks from anything electronic. I even took his radio clock. I told him when he wants to express his frustration in ridiculous ways, I’d do the same (the spanking). He never did that again and just graduated from high school early. I’m not afraid of CPS or other parents opinions. Some kids need to be kept in line with more then A “please” and a “thank you”.
Mexicans.
When bad behavior is tolerated and excused, it will continue.
and when commy politicians are tolerated and excused, it will continue !
...and then worsen until it is beyond help!
Strange concept isn't it.... when you enable bad behavior do not be surprised when you get bad behavior. Same problem with homelessness. San Francisco enables and encourages drug use by passing out > 400K needles per MONTH. They next step to 'solve' this problem -- provide safe injection sites within the city. Portland is tagging along for the ride.
@@JumpingJack6 Bravo for this comment. 👏👏
Barack Obama is to blame for it. He is an evil piece of shit.
~Dutch
“Society in decline”. I believe the gentleman said it all and well.
They should expell the students. That's what my school did and it worked.
Teachers fear administration. Administration fears parents. Parents fear the students. Students fear no one.I am a 30 year teaching veteran.
Kathryn Molesa couldn’t have said it any better! That’s the moral of the story.
I believe your whole statement is correct except for the part about the parents. I believe that "enough" of the parents just don't want the problems to reach them. I describe this as (pure and simple) parental laziness.
This. I worked security at a state-run residential school for hearing impaired kids, they were bused-in from all across the state every week. Most of our kids were pretty good, but a few were...trouble. Very first week I worked there, I was assigned to "shadow" a female student who was allowed back on condition that she not break a single rule, and my job was literally following her everywhere she went to ensure this. Why was she expelled to begin with? For throwing a teacher down a flight of stairs. That was only the latest thing she had done and got caught, but the Mom sued the school for discrimination--the family was Latino. The school was forced to settle and she was allowed to come back. Of course, it didn't take long for her to get out of control again--she didn't make it to the end of the semester before she was expelled again, this time permanently. I think part of the issue is funding--they're so desperate for a few more dollars that they're willing to allow students that are not only disruptive, but some are downright dangerous. Counter-intuitive as well, since they were forced to pay an additional officer solely dedicated to watching one kid. I think our school was sued at least two to three times in the 10 years I worked there.
I disagree, this isn’t as glib as Rock-Paper-Scissors. Public school teachers fear students through intimidation and violence and afraid to flunk students. They don’t fear administration, you think a teacher is afraid to report a child to the principal? Teachers in unions are difficult to fire. Administration doesn’t fear parents, they fear union strikes, school board budgets and performance and proficiency stats to move kids through. Parents, are afraid of being embarrassed, don’t have time to engage, or think it’s the schools fault and if anyone is scared of the parent, it’s the school board which is usual directly voted in through election.
I would partially blame the media that only has concern to spin the story into simplistic red herrings like disparities and racial injustice. Unfortunately this is a poverty and racial issue and denial to discuss the elephant in the room, which is really a donkey, and the continued denial to hold blacks kids responsible for their conduct, restoring and rewarding honor not victimhood as a value. This is not a vilification but a desire to build better students and speak plainly whomever it is, but looking at a room of pensive women that are afraid to say a majority of violent disruptions are black and latino especially in Portland? The left-coast is rife with an undeserved white guilt they refuse to discuss the demographics of the students who are causing the most disruption. You can tell, All these teacher were walking on eggshells and didn’t describe anybody. They obviously don’t want to make the black kids angry.
And really, it’s not just west coast this is an epidemic on a national scale and reason why Obama Initiated the executive order-the White House initiative on a educational excellence for African Americans which effectively dismissed black youth discipline as biased racism. I’m sure someone will be upset by my plain talk but this is about values and reality , no one wants failure, poverty and violence upon other Americans, we only want success!
Absolutely
My mother use to tell us...."Discipline Starts in the Home" Now I know exactly what she meant.
Parents should let kids have more of what they want. Like more video games and more gooder foods like alot of pizza and candy.
True, but when your Government takes your power to punish an unruly child away and your threatened by local authorities if you so much as threaten to smack your child they'll take them away. When your children start to understand that power and use it as a weapon against you... Some parents wished they'd never had children at all.
Get these kids OUT of school.
When I was in school if you acted out like that you went to a different school so the rest of us could go on being programmed. Perhaps things are breaking down.
Perhaps the disruptive kids were simply the ones who broke through the talmudic programming.
@@AethelredTheReady blame the jews as always you effin prick
Y'all should interview the parents just to see what bs answers they will give
Whatever dude
@MuthaPhuka jones I'm guessing you a Yankee snowflake
"My little Braxton Maximilian Ryder-Buxton has chosen to express zimself in an alternative way. Who am I to oppress zis emotions like the evil white cis patriarchy that's plagued this horrible country since we stole it from the native people".
So..... how close was that to what you imagined?
I agree. Most parents don't respect teachers and blame them for everything cuz their kid can do no wrong and demand that the school passes their lazy kids who want to nap or play on their phone all day
Very good idea.
To hear these teachers talk about being physically assaulted is so disheartening
It's frightening.
Fuck that mess.
Slap the parents. Omfg
@@Ashes2Ashes_Blush2Blush Off to jail mr slapper. The law isn't on your side.
Facts.
It's also ironic. Arguably teachers and the education system have been at the forefront of getting/grooming children to report their parents for "physically assaulting" them as a function of loving home discipline and correction. The children never learn to regulate their emotions or to respect authority. And then this comes home to roost in the very classrooms that helped initiate it.
This is a perfect example of how so many "progressive Leftist" tactics of trying to "socially engineer" stray aspects of society that their feelings don't like don't just fail, they tend to totally backfire. And then there is a refusal to monitor/own/correct the mistaken presumptions and they are repeated again just a few years later.
Society is an insanely complex "emergent structure"; and there's huge arrogance in thinking that if our feelings don't like something we can just push and pull and change something to "fix" it. There is an absence of humility. That is why the Somerville Youth Initiative to deal with delinquency, caused a spike in delinquency rates. That is why LBJ's "Great Society" initiative aimed at helping poor black single mothers caused the black single motherhood rate to rise from 17% to over 70% in the years following its inception. That's why BLM that is aimed at helping blacks become masters of their own destiny, actually reinforces a slave morality upon them. That is why Bush's "No Child Left Behind" initiative caused the dumbing-down of American students. That is why "Bully-Proof Zones" actually produced generations of children who are so incompetent in the face of bullying . . . they commit suicide. That is why "peanut-free zones" in schools aimed at protecting the very very very few kids with peanut allergies caused the incidence of peanut allergies to skyrocket. That is why the hand-and-surface-sanitizer craze aimed at helping children, actually sabotages their immune system and only makes the germs more virulent.
Parents are the reason kids are doing this, it starts at home.
Not just children. Misdirected rage. That is why the dog gets kicked when, in reality, it is a parent that would be the target.
Probably the Somalian refugees
Many people are NO LONGER disciplining their kids... Many have the UNFORTUNATE view that DISCIPLINE is abuse! It's not! It's training.
Very true. When my son's where little in the 90's I could not believe how bad other kids were. Now 30 years later game over.
Kids need to know there will be PUNISHMENT for their misbehaviors. Children that are never punished are very sure of themselves. I could always tell the bullies in my daughters classes just by looking around.
People are passing laws when they don’t even know what it says.
Lol. Same with ObummerCare
No, it's not that they don't know what the law they pass says, it's how some leftist muppet twists the words of the law passed to make it mean what they want it to mean. Interpretation is the issue here. The law was passed so people stopped restraining autistic and other special needs students. However, it is being interpreted as a zero tolerance policy for putting your hands on all students to prevent them from even leaving a classroom or even running out into the street. Lawyers create the vast majority of problems in our society with twisting language to promulgate whatever agenda they are pushing.
Kids act out and look for the boundaries. When there are none, you get worse behavior.
Vaccines posion their brains to an extreme degree. They get 76 vaccines these days. Vaccines include huge amounts of neuro toxic aluminum among other poisons. The increase in vaccinations correlates with terrible issues related to BRAIN DAMAGE in our kids.
@KENT J Oh yes they are -where have you been living - under a rock!
When Nanny sets boundaries and even the children thank her and then the family enjoys each other - schools need to set rules ua-cam.com/users/results?search_query=nanny+911+full+episodes
@KENT J all the fully vaccinated kids have been doing this shit more and more since 1986, correlating with new vaccines being added to the schedule.
Now that we give all our 12 year olds the ridiculous and unneccesary HPV shot because their parents and docyors are too dumb to read about it before injecting into the kids, we will see rates of cancer, auto immune disorders, brain inflammation and mass sterility rise to an extreme degree of proportions no one is recognizing yet. Come on society. This is nazi era eugenics ushering fascism into the modern US one abuse at a time. Plain and sumple. Think about the implicatioms this has for the future economy of America. We are ruining all the lives of our young people.......and our old people.
KENT J why are you lying like that. Lmao
Solution: Stop voting Democrat. I did. (Former elementary school teacher here.)
Democrats have ruined this country. They need to wake up to reality, and knock off this safe space BS, learn to discipline, and understand that utopian society isn't working.
@@HWEWSWEW Exactly.
My dad came to my classroom in 2nd grade and belt whipped me to the ground in front of everyone. That teacher never had anouther problem with me or any other kid because all their parents promised them the same. Today me and almost all of those students are rich successful extremely disciplined business owners, with credit scores close to 800. And lines of credit from banks to buy most homes with cash. We are all still close friends. And I love my dad for making me smart. We do it right in Texas.
Yes. I live in Texas. You are right. We don't play.
"Physically assist" a student out of the classroom??? If a student is being violent and injuring teachers and others, they have to be restrained and institutionalized. The law was an extreme response to posted vids of students being restrained and arrested, but it's depriving whole classes of teaching time to treat violent students with kid gloves. That's even worse.
And punished the good kids! Wth
Broken families, over stimulation from constant viewing of electronics, no love from mom and dad, and no follow through discipline. I homeschool my children because my oldest was in a first grade class just like this and I shut that down pretty fast, not gonna have my babies be tortured by broken kids.
I fully support your actions. We all need to do that. Thank you for your courage and example.
It's not just that my friend........ It's because they've been "disciplined" by parents that know Nothing about The Lord Jesus Christ and therefore they DON'T have the love of God in them; much-less the simplest of "basic commonsense manners".......Like yes mam and no mam, yes Sir and no Sir. Need I explain more.....
I applaud you! The few homeschooled kids I’ve met made me feel hopeful and nostalgic...
@@geralddecaire8086 ....... Well I personally don't care what people "think" about me, however as far as my Children are concerned you could ask any/all of my Children's teachers all throughout their schools and everyone of them would tell you that I have very, very well- behaved Children that cause NO Problems whatsoever and they all have outstanding grades A-B range. And it's because the Law is put down at MY House!! As far as what people "think" of me.......well I'm the one that you'd pass on the streets and never give reguard to; thus the reason I'm overlooked by Many! But you know what it's because I Care more about what God/Jesus Christ thinks about me than man! Man has done NOTHING for me whatsoever; with all do respect mam......
@@geralddecaire8086 Well, if it's not a Jesus thing, what is it that Sweden has that the U.S. doesn't? Or what is it that the U.S. has that Sweden doesn't? HMMM, THAT'S A BIG OL' FUCKIN MYSTERY, ISN'T IT?
*This is everywhere. Only Oregon is coming clean. School is hell*
No doubt..
They aren't coming clean they are just surprised it's starting to happen to them instead of any of the other people and organizations they actively encourage this behavior against
Vote in a Conservative School Board and School Choice in your Local Government - this needs to stop now!
Get the law system out of the schools and let parents and teachers deal with the issue.
Those making laws tide the hands of the ones in the hability to deal with the issue.
Also start parenting training classes in those communities.
It's been going on forever too. Even when I went to school decades ago, we didn't even have enough books or chairs. No studying, no tests, nothing. We just slept on the floor. As long as we didn't cause disruptions, we passed. The truth was everyone got passed anyways since they didn't want to deal with us or the problem directly. Only saving grace for me was being a complete geek, so I learned on my own. Many fell short, though.
The "Can't Touch Me" attitude makes it's way out of the classroom to the bus then to the bus stops where some children get unruly and do property damage to the nearby residences and public properties. I have experienced this and when I call them down they get nasty with me.
As a kid who was attacked by other students and a teacher watched me getting hurt and looked me in the eyes why it happen and did nothing to help is something I still live with
I'm sorry to hear that. The problem is that teachers aren't allowed to touch children anywhere. They would first have to get help from the principal or someone else. In some places you even have to call the police before you can detain a violent student.
@@07Flash11MRC sorry but a 7 years old doesn’t know this
When I was in school those children got kicked out of school. Not the whole class being removed
No child left behind. Government Grant's. $$$
These leftist have a hellava plan dont they? lol
@@rynolascavio3381 George Bush was a Republican
@@rynolascavio3381 I feel that if more parents got involved with the school board things wouldn't be heading the way they are now.
@@sir1junior so what the fuck is your point. Bush was a rino.
This goes back years of raising children with no punishment, now they have children and so on. You cannot let the inmates run the asylum, that's what this is, and it starts at home.
And when I tried, they threw me in an asylum.
Absolutely true!!!!!!
Samuel tractorton Becareful they might flag you for hate speech lol We all know it’s the truth Government needs to stop dictating Oe parents should raise there own children. Dumb law but what parts in the world still alow spankings? And teacher authority over there students without getting sued? Need to move and start a family there
Aw so you admit it’s prison
They get no discipline at home, they get everything they want. So what happens when a maladjusted child doesn't get what they want? Violence. More and more the role of parenting is falling on the shoulders of police I feel.
In my day when a student "acted out" they were introduced to the "board of education" and it wasn't comprised of administrators, it was wood. Problem solved.
Back in my day, that paddle had holes drilled in it. It whistled when they swinged it and it had a vacuum/sucking feature when it made contact with a rear end. We need to bring that back.
@@kimberlyhicks3644 parents should also be giving spanking in the homes too
If that didn't cure them they were expelled from the classroom and sent to reform school so the others could get an education.
Hitting only teaches hitting. Remove the student from the ones that behave and want to learn. Sounds like child services needs to inspect some households. When my childeren did not behave, they were punished, but I only spanked one time and then realized it is confusing to a child and not giving me the results I wanted. i reasoned with the ones that could understand. I never made things easier or rewarded bad behavior. I'm not big on the govt doing anything (cause the screw it up) but we cannot let bad kids ruin classrooms. Mush more could ans should be said about this. This should be one of the top things reported on by our news channels, not their bias political opinions.
Sonny Prator I don’t think that worked
sounds like LAUSD, No consequences, no help for the kids; teachers are overwhelmed, outnumbered, overworked, and blamed for everything... that's what is wrong
Leftist are what's wrong. They're breeding these monsters.
No discipline at home. Parents shouldnt be buddies, they need to be parents
Doctor Spock was wrong.
Vaccines, spiritual decline of a corrupt world, GMOs, system is designed to breakup family. Waxing worse and worse. Water systems are failing, infrastructures failing, no hugs in school no compassion for special needs kids that are becoming 1 in 50 now and it keeps increasing. Everything has increased since Obama.
I am speaking as a retired public school classroom teacher. Citizens have NO ONE to blame but themselves for this! You took local control of your schools and handed it over to the federal government in exchange for ADA (Average Daily Attendance) and other funding. When the "new math" was instituted in the 1960s and standardized test scores started to drop alarmingly, how many of you led the charge to bring sanity to the currirulum instead of political correctness?? You didn't question ANY of the federal government mandates on what is to be taught. When new textbook adoptions were proposed, how many of you actually looked at them, let alone read (or even perused) them? Did you know that one of the social studies textbooks offered by a national textbook publishing company eliminated all American History for fifth grade at the Civil War, without discussing the events that led up to it? Instead, the focus was on minority contributions to the American culture. While a worthwhile chapter,, devoting the first unit or two to such claims at the expense of teaching how and why American came to be, who among you stood to defend the "dinosaur" teachers who objected to this glaring omission??? When classroom control was taken out of the teachers' hands and given over to a site administrator (who, to remain upwardly mobile in the hierarchy, kept the downtown honchos happy at the expense of classroom discipline and good order which is conducive--nay, mandatory--to effective learning, who among you formed a group to attend the school board meetings to object? When little Johnny, thanks to Obama and his favored son, the Secretary of Education, Arne Duncan, told you that children of color could NOT be suspended from classrooms because it was only teaching them to be incarcerated, how many of you cried "Bullsh*t--it teaches them that there are logical--and severe--consequences for disruption of the education process??? NONE of you. .
I'm getting up there in years so I'm pretty old school and I can honestly say... I was there. Problem is it was a lonely place to be this few voices with me and behind me. Many in our family have turned to solely homeschooling. You're above post is so true it hurts!
We have problems but you guys had PROBLEMS. Nostalgia won't fix this.
Yes, parents did protest "new math", the Department of Education, the Teachers union and teachers ignored us, because of course we're not the "Professionals". The New Textbooks were pushed and embraced by so-called "progressive" teachers, and taught to children DESPITE their parents protest. As far as blaming parents for the lack of discipline in the class room, what did you expect? You usurped a parents ability to discipline their child when you routinely REPORTED a parent to child Services when they punished their children for misbehaving. And as far as Pres. Obama and his policies go, liberal progressives voted for him and approved his mandates while calling the rest of us uninformed racist whenever we protested. You (teachers and teachers unions) have FORCED this situation on the American people and now you have the gall to blame us for it?!
@@quinntech7254
My daughter has practically lived in the office of the schools her children went to before homeschooling. Complaining about the new math complaining about the lack of factual things in the history classes complaining about the lack of civics in school complaining about everything the school was doing. She even complained about everybody gets a trophy because she believes competition is important in education because it gives the students something to strive for. It did nothing. So she home-schooled, and she still does and so do three other women in my family.
I would suggest that the primary focus by school teachers (especially in elementary school) should be mental health, sociology, and psychology. I never had ANY of that all throughout school. And yes, students who are psychologically troubled need a completely different environment to see if their brains can be made to function properly, otherwise what's the point of teaching american history if they are going to wind up in prison anyway?
Incredible. And yet, some people - including and especially school teachers - will claim that my wife and I somehow "shortchanged" our children by homeschooling them. You see, homeschooled kids are supposed to lack "socialization skills," as if socializing with kids in these public schools would be beneficial!
Teachers only care what's best for the teacher's union. Politicians only care what's best for the teacher's union. That's why both are so up in arms against charter schools and homeschooling (which both care about the students above all else).
"I don't think the students want to hurt someone"
Did she just say that?
She might be fearful of voicing her real thoughts. We all need to keep our jobs, even if they turn out to be much different than imagined. Teachers really need to watch their step and their words nowadays.
People say whatever is necessary to keep their jobs
When I was a kid, the Vice Principal had a paddle... A BIG one.
"Spare the rod, spoil the child."
He was the Mayor of Shit Creek, OR
MICKEY THE BULLTERRIER Same. Where I live, we still have paddles. That nonsense doesn’t happen where I live. In the South, we don’t tolerate that nonsense. I am not even old. Left wing religion and culture is why this happens.
I was hit with a pig pong paddle many times by a teacher. It didn't kill me. Didn't even bruise me. There's common sense in all things and whipping a kid that just PUNCHED a teacher only makes sense. There has to be consequences for harmful actions or society breaks down.
@Michael Stocker Sounds like you need a proper beating as well. Not only should we bring back the paddle to schools, we should bring back flogging for misdemeanors. There are a lot of adults out there that could use a good beating as well.
This is no accident...and it's no accident that those who created the mess have kept their own children out of the experiment.
It’s definitely a social experiment. Possibly a pcyop and the fact it’s on the news. Is the observation of the experiment to see if it’s working. Wait till 5G comes out. Won’t be just kids acting out.
Details?
They send their kids to Ukrania
Jaymz Onion Because they are home schooled or attend Catholic/charter schools. Don't even get me started on 'schools for the gifted".
Absolutely unimaginable in my school days only a couple of decades ago.
It not only in Oregon, it all over the usa that are having this issue.
Its all over Europe as well, more and more teachers are quitting their jobs as a teacher every day. The day to day stress of very full classes, hours of administration, conversations with parents about' troubled' kids, and also not being able to find an apartment or buy a house they can pay in the big cities! ( cause they dont make much money) etc etc. Also less and less students choose to become a teacher. Its not a populair job at all... There is big problem with finding teachers these days... They estimate a shortage of teachers so that a lot of schools can close in 10 years.
@@tej6176 dang thay suck
California and Washington
all starts at home, if your parents aren't doing there job then this is what you get.
Good point. Perhaps what we're seeing is the physical evidence and eyewitness testimony about the disintegration of the family unit, the income disparities reducing teacher/ student " quality one on one time", increasing class sizes/ teacher workloads, and rampant sex-drugs- n- rock-roll by the students. Much more interesting than sitting in a boring class, unable to see/hear/care about what's even being taught. And when the unruly student-s disrupt class,get violent, there's little the teachers can do but " give them a time out - detention- trip to the principal". They've got little/ or no physical protection or backup , making for a very tense, threatening dynamic. Like going into a lion cage just to do your job.
Only -these Lions know that you could be fired/ sued, just for defending yourself against them...
Teacher- baiting/ bullying is a real thing, and many will quit because of it.
Jonathan Alires wrong. This is cultural ~
@@christelrascon4708 maybe culture, however, I was raised in a small town where your teachers, peers, parents, and neighbors hold a person accountable for everything you do and for some strange reason we don't have these problems of children being disrespectful and disruptive in the class room. my children attended the same school and have never had to experience class disruptions of this magnitude. so maybe culture, or maybe these children are not getting the proper care from their families such as teaching respect, discipline, and how to properly interact with society(in this case a class room). so I think it goes a little deeper than just culture.
Exactly!
To be fair there is over population in these schools I was in a math class in my junior year, 2017, that had 45 students. The class only had 34 chairs.
Kids are not taught to respect their elders
. . . or authority. Or history. Or society. Or others.
Only their emotions.
Maybe that’s because their elders don’t deserve respect?
@@walkingthroughashes8982 How do those who built the structure upon which one would stand to criticize them . . . not deserve at least some respect??
One of the key problems with younger generations is that they have absolutely no appreciation for what they stand atop of. To them the past is only there to be their criticized whipping boy.
But I guess you're right. They brought you forth. How questionable is that??
@Coelophysis yes, what a resounding success of our education system. I'm so proud of you bud! Keep it up!
@Coelophysis It sounds like people knew even 2,400 years ago about the problem that today we've gleefully invited into our school system even while professing ourselves wise and "progressive" for doing so! 🙄😂😭
"Spare the rod, spoil the child." This is the result of a lack of discipline and the lack of consequences of bad behavior. Obviously, little Johnny learned the wrong lesson in his "time out".
Some of these Parents are even more fxcked up than their kids. Drug alcohol abuse … mental illness … narcissistic … you’re asking too much to expect that these lunatic kids have normal parents.
I’m aware. I sent one to school in SF, Portland and Seattle. My youngest has been in private school since pre-k. Will go all the way through HS.
You can’t blame phones. This was going on in early 2000s before the law was changed. Saw it as a parent with my own eyes. Ripped my kid out of school. One student called me a “ho.” Disruptive classrooms. Couldn’t hear anything the teacher said.
No money is NOT the answer. The problem is the children. Mine did NOT do any of that. You don’t deserve my money.
This is everywhere. Not just Oregon.
kiki O'Kellern NYC here!
Everywhere in particular demographics....yes.
I live in Missouri and it goes on in our districts as well.
Yes it's happening in my state too (Colorado).
Alive and well in Boston public
It all started when schools went from Teaching to becoming part of the social engineering
Educators have zero power any more. It's all been concentrated into the hands of the almighty government wanting to turn out good little socialist armies.
You are 100% correct!
When The schools were federalize the engineering of slaves began. I’m for a return to one room school house, one in each neighborhood. Also then the neighborhood can decide what they want their kids to learn.
@@thebluedan A simply beautiful idea.
@@suleskos.2743 Cultural Marxism is their tool! Rules for Radicals: What Constitutional Conservatives Should Know About Saul Alinsky
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Portlandia used to be a charming place. Now, the parents are more concerned with protesting than child rearing.
I do watch Portlandia clips on youtube. I see it as a CA version of The Trailer Park Boys.
I remember my 5th grade teacher gave me huge, because she understood what I was going through. That hug really comfort me, never missed behave in her class.
Adults are not doing children any favors by not having boundaries, consequences and punishments.
Not surprising at all! Without discipline, there is no teaching.
And neither is there learning. The entire education (indoctrination) system needs to be dismantled and rebuilt by private industry, home schoolers, churches, and responsible parents.
@@sinjin6219 as a homeschool grad no that's not the answer, but we should stop teaching for a test and get back to a world where it's okay to show a child love, because giving a child cell phone to shut them up is not love.
@@marypetrie3513 the only ones not self regulating over an annual exam are the teachers not the students. In fact the teachers want the kids with issues to go through all sorts of testing to get a diagnosis and placement in a self contained room with some limited exposure to mainstream classrooms.
@@kristinesharp6286 where in the wild world of NCLB does pull-out still happen?
@@joeboos2729 the local school district.
Time to *bring back the paddle.* We had to deal with a hell of a lot less of this shit when it was around.
Bottom line: Discipline starts at home. I used to get my sideburns pulled by my teacher (in the Philippines) and then she would call home and I'd get a better beating because I've disgraced my parents.
Fresco L . If giving kids beatings worked the middle east would be the safest place on earth.
@@xxjr8axx They got kids obeying to go suicide bombing... Looks like it works
Fresco L sending a kid to go do a suicide bombing speaks way more about the adult then is does about the kid.
Fresco L if you like that system the Soviet Union, China, North Korea and Nazi Germany would like you as a citizen/slave. Theirs a reason why most countries that were communist at one point got rid of it. If you think beating kids is fine because they disobeyed you you have some problems. I can't Imagen a full grown adult thinking its fine to take out their frustration on a kid thats like 1/3 their size. Not to mention it makes you look like a punk and a pathetic person, a lot like a wife beater.
@@xxjr8axx "Sending a kid to go suicide bombing speaks way more about the adult than it does the kid"... You just proved my point, discipline starts at home. Lmao. You make it sound like we get the shit beat out of us, pulling my sideburns? Uh yeah that's a horrible horrible beating... LMAO when i get home i get wooped with a broom and slippers. Wow terrible beating. My parents should be in prison.
My daughter is 30 months old. We do not let her use “smart” devices like so many people told us we are crazy for doing. My daughter has a vast vocabulary, has manners, loves to interact with other kids and can even read a little. Every single child I’ve encountered whose parents just hand over their phone instead of being a parent can’t even do a third of those things and most are older than her. Most kids she tries to interact with don’t know how or are just flat out rude and their parents could care less.
And society wonders why the current generations are so lazy and antisocial
No you have a 2 1/2 year old
30 months old? WTF is wrong with you. Are you trolling or just naturally stupid?
Eric, this is true! I have 4 children and if they are allowed to use a smart device for more than 30 minutes..... I definitely see behavior problems from them.Also the parent has to model appropriate smart device use. If they see the parents on phones all day this sends a clear message to the child.
That is so accurate
It's frightening. I teach j.h. in rural CA and it's hell batteling the apathy and blatant aggression. My heart breaks for the children who want to learn and are NOT the problem. Pray hard.
The kids haven’t changed, the adults have
Amen
Teachers need to do exactly what they're there to do. TEACH! Make every situation a teachable moment. If a kid gets out of line, discipline him/her immediately and knock off this time out crap. Teach these kids that they need to respect their elders. Put back some fear in them. None of this is happening and look where we're at.
@wowalinbie when I was in school, everyone was fair game for insults. Even the teachers dished it out. But, we were a hell of a lot thicker skinned back then too.
Everybody's changed.. the slogan of " No child left behind " has morphed into " no child left untested on multiple guess formated , standardized forms".. teachers only teaching for the mandatory tests, not having the time to actually educate students or Teach anything but " check this box if you agree".. the solutions aren't just ' add more money and teachers'...
vintageexcellence or they simply aren’t there. How many kids don’t have one or both of their biological parents.
This happens in high schools too. Especially when you have SpED students who staff aren't allowed to restrain, so you just have to wait for the police to arrive and escort them off property.
The perpetrators do not have “parents”, they have accomplices. And no one in this report, including the teachers want to bell the cat.
Why aren't the parents immediately called in to deal with their children?
because their parents don't give af
@@SWpurgatory Best answer I have read on this post
Because the parents dont care and are owned by the kids. They have scratches too probably. The parents think basic discipline is abuse most likely.
Lol, good luck with that one. Let’s just say the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Because parents are busy at work because everybody has to have at least one job and a paid so little mini have more than one job and most jobs won’t let a parent leave just because their child is being disruptive at school, what world you live in that any parent can leave just because they’re having an issue?
You reap what you sow....when you remove respect for authority and discipline from schools, you end up with a clan of hyenas out of control.
Parents are ultimely to blame as their children are reflections of themselves.
Bringing back abusive punishment won't teach more respect, if that's what you are delusionally imagining.
@@angelainamarie9656 It has nothing to do with abuse but teaching children expectation of respect, honesty and dignity. It isn't some kind of neo-nazi extreme that you think it is, or else do you want to have this same situation continue to escalate? Why protect this kind of behavior?
It takes a village...and sometimes a good old fashioned, life-saving, behind whooping.
@@kirkadkison242 🤔... Incel?
@@erdeneboldbaatar6139 That's the best you can come up with? You do study economics and monetary disposition? Apparently, not, cause if you did you would know that 90% of welfare goes to single women/moms. Secondly, if you studied sociology, you would know that children of single moms are 10 times more succestiple to a destructive lifestyle and all of this information is available on the US Dept of Health and Welfare website. Here is another interesting fact from the same website - Single women neglect their children 3 times more than single men. Now, maybe by your comment you will get laid this year. Best of luck and I hope you don't have to pay for it
It's from our destructive PC atmosphere & "no hurt feelings" environment!! For the sake of not only our schools, but our society as a whole, its time to bring back rules & consequences!!!!
Home school or privately educate your children.
This is what happens when parents refuse to parent.
David Herring rightttttt and I guess it’s just the entire state of Oregon Huh and nowhere else. Lol. Try putting the blame where the blame belongs our governments and the elites. Wake up and pay attention to what is going on around you we are all being controlled and manipulated brainwashed and poisoned by our food water air & vaccines. And the list goes on and on and wakey wakey David see the world for what it really is and when you do you’ll want off this planet
The State will punish them if they do.
4 year of student loans, poor pay, and teacher abuse. How about hell no do not be a teacher.
Sorry to say, it's not just Oregon. Having spent 3 years teaching in Florida, I can tell you, some prisons have better structure and control. These students are just completely lacking in any type of discipline or respect. You also had absolutely no back up from administration. I had to quit, my nerves just could not deal with it.
Who here thought that it was an outburst of “THE” plague
Me
me too.. but its worse! its an OUTBREAK of their ATTITUDE and Mindstates! Scary...
That's exactly what I thought haha I thought, "Those anti-vaxxing hippies in Portland really fucked up this time"
me 😂😂😂
This is what happens when you base your society on feelings
yup, thanks WOMEN
@@joshuabales2643 hey, I a woman and I say bring the paddle back into the class room, get the govt out of our homes and stop rewarding these kids and their failure for parents when this shit happens. This is just the begining for what's coming if the loony left isn't stopped!
No this is what happens when people who aren’t trained to deal with kids deal with kids. Autistic kids have triggers at that age they can’t explain what those are, cause they don’t know either. Most teachers today have no idea how to deal with special needs.
Zeus' Son if they have special needs they go to a special class. Why should their erratic behaviour be paid for by other children missing out.
My sister, who is in her 60s, specialises in this area. She says “ there are children with problems. But there are more likely problem parents....”
Facts don’t care about your feelings.
Oh my goodness...hire security people for schools that have the authority to remove these kids from the classrooms...have a button in classrooms for teacher to push to alert security person to their room that also activated a camera..handcuff those little hands so they can not harm others or themselves..take them to a quiet room to sit..have counseling available..make parents responsible for the improvement of their child’s behavior or removal from school and mandated homeschooling...why should the majority of children be made to suffer a loss of learning and witness violence repeatedly ...they are our future society and should be shown respect and shown there are consequences ...they should be protected and rewarded for their good efforts..it’s teaching them that they are in control of adults and no consequences when this behavior is allowed to continue...and handcuffing those little hands is NOT abuse to any of those crying liberal vacant heads..it’s physical protection for everyone until the situation calms down and is diffused..these violent outbursts would be seen as criminal in public settings ...would a judge in a court room put up with this? So why is it ok for teachers trying to do their jobs to be told they have to...
What surprised me is that there isn't a single mention of the responsibility of parents to teach proper manners and behaviors to their children. Yet everyone is so 'shocked' that these children are out of control.
This is the result of children having children and a System that tolerates the intolerable. Edit - I must also add - This is all by design.
Well said👍 straight to the point
please say more about 'this is all by design...'
@@jim379 Children require care-takers. Keeping individuals at the intellectual level of children, irrespective of their biological age, results in a greater population of dependents to be cared for by the State. Dependents have a habit of of endorsing that which allows them to remain as dependents; they vote for the type of government that allows them to continue to be parasites. The design of the State education-indoctrination system is to further grow the cancer of the welfare state.
Democrat design.... same as ALL democrat held citys
It's this mentality that we have to try and understand bad or disruptive behavior rather than meeting it with discipline that is enabling this. The removal of corporal punishment is when this behavior began to surface. Sure, children are the future, sure we have to teach them that they have value and yet we have to teach them what tough love is. Or we can forgo it and they can learn that lesson in and out of penitentiaries their entire lives.
Cameras in every room. Parents legally prosecuted for the actions of their children
No
@@SnozBerryQueen yes
I think most teachers wouldn’t want cameras in the classroom.
Jake Ochsner Well I’m sure most cops don’t want body etc cams either but when one works with the public and is paid by the people they need to be open to everything they do on the job being subject to recording and or scrutiny.
Scottish Girl, sounds great, however, if there were camera's in the classroom, they may likely be used to for the government's Big Brother tyranny over the parent(s) and definitely over the Teacher's. Therefore, it would be even easier fot the government to justify removal of the children from their parent(s), and/or the administrative discipline of the Teacher. Pursuant to the signing of the Birth Certificate...these children are legally the PROPERTY of the U.S. Government!
I worked in a kindergarten class where one student held a class hostage daily with his violent antics. He would smash his head into walls and the floor, turn over desks and chairs and hurt himself (he already had stitches from where he split his forehead open at home the night before). The administration refused to give him anything more than a slap on the wrist. It was stressful to students and teachers to put up with this child. He was very strong and violent when he went into his "spells" which lasted 18-24 minutes on average and occurred 2 to 3 times per day. One one occasion, I told a teacher's assistant to record his episode while two other of us staffers moved dangerous items out of his way and shielded the other children. His parents eventually withdrew him and enrolled him in another school. All I could think was, "heaven help that new school because they have no ideas what they're in for." This child needed psychiatric help and does not belong in a traditional school IMO. I have had a handful of children whom I fear their growing up into adulthood for what they might do to others.
I love when they say, "They don't really want to hurt you." as a child flings a chair at you. This is called NO DISCIPLINE or CONSEQUENCES.
This is what happens when parents don’t discipline their kids.
Absolutely! This is a PARENT PROBLEM. These kids parents aren't parenting them.
It has to do with bad or the lack of parenting. Kids will get away with whatever they are allowed to get away with. Even kids that have mental issues can be taught but unfortunately some parents are not holding their kids accountable. Are there problems with bad policies that take away parents ability to parent yes but for the most part it’s what’s happening or not happening at home.
This is a result of violent homes.
According to laws nationwide not even parents are permitted to discipline their own kids anymore. It’s sick! I’m glad that I was able to have raised my kid in times when kids could be disciplined . He turned out to be a great adult.
Christa that’s necessarily true it all depends on how you interpret the law and that’s if people have even taken the time to read the law. My husband is a NJ retired police officer and on a few occasions he had parents telling him that they couldn’t discipline their children because of child protective services laws. He took the law book out and read it out loud and explained what was permissible and what was not. You can spank your child but you can’t beat them. He even created a spanking room in his office to let parents know that it’s ok to lightly spank your child. But he always made sure that it was the last option and that they also needed to model good behavior for their child and they also needed to hold them accountable for bad behavior.
It’s the parenting. That is the exact cause.
Not always
100% Ian
L J But mostly
L J It’s close enough to always for us to treat it as such. Good parents shouldn’t be forced to send their kids to schools where this is normal.
S please elaborate?
"Spare the rod and spoil the child."
The problem is... these disruptive kids are NOT being spanked at home. Just look at kids flipping out in grocery stores and the parents who do NOTHING.
There was a problem with a few parents abusing this in hateful ways. But the correct solution was not a "fear response" followed by generations of trying to convince ourselves that "causing hurt is wrong". That is why kids cannot learn (because learning involves the discomfort of facing one's ignorance), cannot respect others, cannot respect authority, cannot respect history (because some of it was painful), cannot respect society, cannot respect the sacrifices others have made (because learning about them triggers the emotions).
Star Brand we can’t people call DCFS and your accused of abuse and neglect which is not true I was innocent and it was horrible nightmare and give my kids consequences but my kids are manipulative it’s difficult when they hit they teens and the law doesn’t want admit that teens make choices and we are not bad parents kids make choices and the fault is the parents and parenting but it’s the opposite. The news still blames parents I found in my own children it’s what they eat that affects their emotions and if teachers changed what feed kids and parents then kids would be happier like stay away from anninto coloring and yellow 5 and 6 and red dyes and level it takes three days to wear off once your kid has it in the blood and goes to brain it increases the axceity and emotions even anger and they can become abusive but the law doesn’t understand emotional illnesses like mental illnesses it’s bigger then people think and kids have a lot of homework and tests. My son is 15 and cries and stresses over a test the next day it affects our kids if they limit the stress our kids would be happier. I do believe the teachers know these students enough that they can pick up on the cues leading up to their outbursts I believe if I could find ways then teachers can too without making it embarrassing as well. There’s always a reason, it could be simple like my son wanted to decorate him room for Christmas and he had axceity over asking me so when he had mustard on his hamburger on accident with yellow dye he freaked out threw a trantrum and when I found out my son and I went to dollar store to resolve it because of the severe axceity we must but there’s times he demands video games and becomes a different person I changed to topic to teaching him draw an Christmas truck and Christmas tree. Parents know their kids. Maybe the schools should offer therapy or just call their parents if they doing that parents can take the child or teen home.
@@juliaweber5026 I'm looking back, remembering when I was a child. Everyone disciplined you. If you were caught doing something bad, your neighbor disciplined you, then brought you home to your parents who thanked the neighbor and then they preceded to discipline you as well.
Later on, you learned not to do anything wrong because too many people were watching you and had the authority to stop you.
I also went to a religious school where the teachers were allowed to hit and or spank you. There were no time outs or that counting crap.
It wasn't Child Abuse. And I think we became stronger and more capable adults because of it.
No the problem is that we’re such an uptight society that we think that an outburst or whatever means the child is a brat , we also think spanking is the only way to discipline and that all kids should be spanked
Yup =/
I’m sure this has absolutely NOTHING to do with changing demographics.
Theres too much politics, not enough parent involvement.
The entire Portland area is dark, dark, dark spiritually. My stomach gets sick every time I go near Portland.
Gina Kenyon it’s not a godless state yet. Because I’m there praying and worshiping God and trying to live the way he taught us to. The more of us hit the ground with that the more satan loses.
This happening in NJ too. I had to start homeschooling my son and I'm planning to do the same with my daughter in the fall. As a result of student behavior, she has developed an anxiety disorder, and my son was getting bullied.
Sue the parents, you will see a change🤯
This is what you get when you tolerate everything.
We should be more like Western nations and good states like Massachusetts
waaaa, raciss! sexiss! waaaa, how dare you speak the truth! we must tolerate EVERYthing except white men
Interesting. What do you think specifically shouldn't be tolerated? I'm curious to know.
Joshua Bales are white men being oppressed?
@@Erin-ce5gs see my other reply to your other comment
So if a child is physical hurting you , you cannot touch them. You must call other teachers to herd the child?? This is absurd. So these young children find this a game? Ugh
Yep you've summed it up about right touch the child you've most likely got a law suit on your back not just USA this is happening it's happening in UK schools as well
Not to mention the obvious absurdity of "herding" and other such concepts. When you treat children like animals, don't be surprised when they start acting like animals.
Sounds like little ANTIFA members in the making, doesn’t it?
Yeah, you can't defend yourself or touch the student
What happens when you get into that situation if you touch them is that if it ever gets investigated, you are assumed to be guilty until proven innocent. These investigations are not like a criminal case where you are protected by certain legal protections. You don't get the right to counsel. You get to sit down while they ask you questions to try to fuck you and then when they finally nail you on a aha moment, then they forward all that to the police, where now they get to go around the usual legal protections against this kind of tactic. What constitutes 'reasonable restraint'? Well that's up to interpretation. Who gets to interpret that? The same people who have a 'save the children' complex, who don't actually work in a classroom, and who are out to prove your guilt. It's like a if a Judge and a Cop were rolled into one and they start off assuming you are guilty and are out to find evidence of that they are right.
Get the special needs kids OUT of the classroom. They are 90 percent of the problem. Teachers don't want to call this out due to political correctness, but mainstreaming does not work. Period!
Like many of you said, this is not an isolated issue. Teachers are stuck having to teach around a disruptive student. You’re just supposed to ignore disruptive behavior. I witnessed it, myself, on MANY occasions: whole classrooms being cleared for a desk throwing student, children purposely knocking over books and crawling around the classroom while the teacher attempts to teach the others, administration being called to remove a child arrive only to coddle the insubordinate student and even give him cookies “because he was hungry”, ten-year-olds being verbally reprimanded for jumping on tables, throwing erasers, and behaving like out of control toddlers and then the teacher is the one who is forced to write an apology to the class, the parent of a first grader who approached the resource officer and asked him if he could speak with her son (FIRST GRADE) about his habit of sneaking out of the house at night...and so on, and so on...
The problem is multi-fold. These particular parents don’t parent. The administrators are impotent, and the teachers are stuck in the middle trying to survive until 2:15. Are there horrible teachers? Of course there are. However, as that representative in the video said: why aren’t we removing the disruptive child? This hands off approach is not working! The school systems have created this problem and now they’re asking for “more funding” to solve the problem. Amazing.
Problem starts at home why aren't the parents being called in
Agree...more money won't help a bit.
School is a waste of time
Well I spanked my son 5 spankings and school call CPS and had to go to talk to deputy sherriff investigator for leaving a mark ...it was all thrown out by DA office for unfounded. Now I'm afraid to spank him again. Grounding and taking things away does not work.
Problem is communist Portland.
Because the parents are the ones who teach these kids to behave like animals in the first place.
But what else can you expect from a mother who decided to get knocked-up before she was even old enough to get a driver's license, so that she wouldn't have to work for a living?
They don't care about the fact that their sons are almost certainly going to spend their lives either in and out of prison, or dead before the age of 18; or about the fact that their daughters will almost certainly end up trapped in a life of poverty, from which they will never escape...
All that these kids' mothers care about is getting that sweet, sweet welfare check; so that they can avoid growing up and taking personal responsibility for themselves; as well as being the center of attention; for having a cute baby.
Meanwhile the fathers just care about being able to brag about knocking girls up.
They seriously could not care less, whether their offspring live or die.
But of course, we can't have the people in the public school system just come out and say that (much less, that the solution is to reduce the number of out-of-wedlock births among teenage girls; and that the most effective way to do that, is by making comprehensive sex-ed classes mandatory [starting around 4th grade, and repeating every 2 years], and by also making condoms and the Morning-After pill easily accessible to teens [ or heaven forbid, making it easy for teenage girls to get access to an abortion without their parent or legal guardian's consent or knowledge]).
"I don't think the students want to hurt someone, they just don't know how to communicate..." You, lady, are part of the problem.
It's called "restorative justice," and it's effectively enabling shitty behaviors in children.
When you're raised by idiotic 'parents' who think its cool to teach your kids they are 'gender neutral', NOT a boy, NOT a girl, they can be WHATEVER THEY DECIDE. These kids are CONFUSED, they have NO GUIDANCE or SUPPORT from their 'parents', they have NO IDEA who or what they are, and you wonder why they're ANGRY AND CAN'T COMMUNICATE? MCFLY????
Russell Figley 👍🏼
@@PunsandPixels exactly
No she's not. The child's parents are the problem. This all begins at home. Here in England teachers complain about kids coming into school in nappies (diapers), because their pupils' parents haven't even toilet trained them. That tells me all I need to know about how much the parent interacts with the child.
Teachers are constantly having to do the job the parents should have done. I mean Parenting 101. Teachers are blamed for everything these days. When a kid gets bullied to death: blame the teacher. No - blame the parent. What the teacher can do is extremely limited in such instances anyway. How about teaching your kid not to be a sadistic arsehole?
Most mortgages can't be met on one income these days. Many women simply have to work outside the home. Then there are the single parents and those are even more stretched. This worrying violent behaviour amongst kids is getting worse though and I don't know what to do about it. I understand that some would say a bit of "healthy fear" is the answer, but I'm not convinced. I was scared of my Maths teacher, not only because I was hopeless at the subject, but because she was cruel about it. Fear doesn't really work. It made me truant to avoid her. There has to be respect. How do you engender respect that isn't based upon fear?
Because we're constantly telling them the world is ending, and then just ignoring them.
Isolation rooms in schools....last time I saw something like that, it was in a county jail.
It's bc parents nowadays can't control and won't discipline their children!
This is why you shouldn’t let the government take care of yours children.
I Voted for Donald Trump so he can help keep our schools safe and let kids enjoy school for a change.
Who's implementing policy to clear classrooms over disruptive behaviors of one?
Stupid f in legislature's.
What will they think of next?....
Let's just medicate them into submission!
Social Security?
Veteran's Administration?
Public Schools?
OFraudCare?
Post Office?
Border Security?
San Francisco Sanitation?
Baltimore Rats?
Chicago Battle Zones?
This is why we shouldn't let the government take care of ANYTHING.
@Mike Keller - Congratulations on the stupidest, most ill-informed, hopelessly mindless comment of the month. (And it's not even the 15th yet) Would you happen to have ANY level of documentation or corroborating evidence to support that claim? Every quarter, the man DONATES his salary to a different worthwhile charitable cause. Other than President Kennedy, who was in a class all by himself, I don't recall past presidents doing that. Most politicians enter the game from obscurity to become multi millionaires... Trump entered the fray a billionaire to take a significant pay cut. The love of truth does not abide in you.
Amen!!!
This goes all way to ppreschool and day care. I've had toddlers swear at me, punch me, tell me they dont have to listen to me. I thik the saddest ad scariest moment was when a three year old found a woodchip out doors, called me over and when i bent down to him, he took the woodchip under my chin and told me he was going to kill me. Ive seen little 3 and 4 year olds flipping chairs or throwing them at teachers. None of these stories have surprised me because this stuff is happening even younger than they are saying. In the preschool I worked at a child intentionally threw a chair at a pregnant teacher's belly and hit her so hard that she miscarried. It is way out of control.
I was a kid with anger management. I remember in 4th grade getting in trouble for nagging. I nagged again and my principal already grabbed me by the shoulder and got in my face. Believe it or not i quit and sat in the desk quiet for the rest of the time out.
Why did you feel to behave like that to your teacher?
@@vilmertijuana3953 I think I was mad because I didn't get to eat a school breakfast.
Kids need disciplined at home - reflects their parents
Some of these Parents are even more fxcked up than their kids. Drug alcohol abuse … mental illness … narcissistic … you’re asking too much to expect that these lunatic kids have normal parents.
Oregon...enough said. Sending all the other kids out?!? How about just the disruptor?
How are they supposed to force the disrupter out when they are forbidden by law to make physical contact? The only way to stop the other students from being harmed is to have them calmly leave the class.
L. Wise, MD this is what happened when Democrats run the state of how you can and how you discipline your children
sofuggit I understand what you are saying, of course, and it’s ridiculous that teachers hands are tied in this situation...The inmates are running the asylum.
Dr Deuteron 👎
No what they will do is say it's because of their neighborhood and bus them out to good clean schools so they can trash them. It's the parents or lack of and a welfare lifestyle of everyone owes me and you need to raise my kids it's not my fault attitude.
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"Step Inside the Stained of Mind" !
"Impressive Superiority" !
"Infectious Immorality"
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I remember when I was in school the only issue teachers had with students was with them being too loud and even then when the teacher said to be quiet they would be quite. I always saw teachers grabbing the students that misbehaved and taking them out to the hallway; now you can’t even touch them? It’s astounding how many restrictions they have nowadays. Don’t even get me started on their low salary; it’s just not worth it
Big Tom My 3rd grade teacher Mrs. Athy who dressed like Margaret Thatcher everyday made Eddie, the bad kid in our class stand on his head in the corner of the classroom 😂 Speddie Eddie never acted up in Mrs Athy’s class again!
Bubble gum in my day.
Y'all better get these parents and make them be responsible for their own damn children.