A New Way of Thinking About Thinking
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- Опубліковано 22 лют 2022
- Rather than a thought being a discrete object, a thought is much more like a reaction to the previous thought. This is a very bizarre and fascinating thing to see about the thinking process. It's bizarre because we don't even realize how much pushing and pulling we are doing in the thoughts space. Fascinating because when we realize this mechanism we are able to calm down our tendency to push and pull. This results in equanimity in the thought space. Resting in this neutrality/equanimity often leads to a fundamental shift in what we take ourselves to be. In short, awakening.
That’s the basis of neurosis: thought reacting to thought in an endless and self-deprecating loop. 99% of us are neurotic, mostly in a milder form. No wonder the world is such a mess!
You blow my MIND!!! I’ve never heard anyone speak so precisely about these nebulous processes. I’m still struggling so much in this area and this video is so helpful!
Glad it was helpful
This is a lesson in how to do inquiry!
You know it! 😃
This was so timely I had a hidden thought causing a heavy shadow and holding it in front of me was eventually like welcoming home an abandoned friend.
These processes you share are so incredibly helpful. THANK YOU endlessly 🙏🏻💞
Welcome!
This is brilliant thanks for making it so clear! It seems to me that thinking can get a lot of momentum from emotions and when an strong emotion is present thinking goes into overdrive. I know that bringing attention fully into the felt experience of emotions is the way to disentangle this but its so difficult when there is also a barrage of thoughts that comes with feeling.
Yes this is true. We have learned to use thought to avoid feeling emotion in we push harder into the thought space. But that has inevitable consequences ☺️
Quote from Ramana:
“Knowledge is a thorn, so is ignorance. It is exactly like when you use a second thorn to remove a thorn from your body. What do you do with that second thorn? Do you keep it safely in the old wound? No, you throw it away too. A moment will come when both of the thorns will be thrown away.”
The words that are coming out of your Body feel exactly like that second thorn :)
It shifts to just listening, everything gets blurry, not even thinking about the words, but still somehow recognising it.
But at some point, the first thorn is still holding on and screaming, hello past…
Great big thank “you” for this input, it accelerates clearly 😊
Much love form Germany
Great quote
The first teacher I have to slow to 0.75x to be able to follow :) 🙏
It's a load off one's mind when one realizes that being genuine is far more important than attempting significance. That kind comes on it's own, like the planets spinning round. One eventually becomes the other. Maybe. I don't know 😁💛
I love it
Love this, HB…
Beautiful and clear
This is brilliant. Thanks Angelo
I am so grateful to have found you Angelo. Spot on, as always.
Thinking is almost more real than reality.
I’m constantly reacting to mental narratives. It’s absolutely ridiculous. Thoughts create feelings and feelings I have little to no experience with, unless they’re unpleasant of course, I’ve been identified in and as a mostly unpleasant mind state for 44 years since I was 9.
My mind has been trying to kill me my entire life. I don’t understand why but it’s very skilled at it.
Outside of daily meditation practice, I’m usually moving so fast in an unsuccessful attempt to pretend to get away from my mind that I rarely stop.
I’m running from imagination and thinking. It’s crazy. There’s literally nothing and no thing there and yet I gotta run. No place to be but I gotta go.
(Sorry, I’m processing my reflection by writing it out so I can get a visual of what I actually think)
Anyway, thank you.
Thank you Angelo. You are a gift to humanity… a wonderful teacher.
You're welcome :)
Hi thank you so much for this. I've been struggling a lot with thought and trauma and identifying too much with it. Your video really made me change my perception on my thoughts.
I'm so glad!
Omfg Angelo! 😱😍 That video definitely clarified things for me from my previous question about thinking. Darn I got caught up for a while on doubts and completely missed the point which is to de-identify with thoughts. Darn sticky things lol 😆 Thanks I will take this approach thank you 😊
Glad it was helpful :)))
I have a love/hate relationship with the last few videos. 😊. All this really sucks right now. Your pushing my buttons big time 😄Thank you for your kindness and generosity
Read the well of grief by David Whyte. Short poem. It’s what this is all about ❤️
It's a beautiful poem...
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake it’s perfect 💎
Thank you. 🌷
You’re welcome ☺️
Thank you for this message, will investigate like this, resonates strongly.
Welcome :)
This is a gift to a dufus who needs to have it spelled out for him. THANKS!!!
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Glad I found your channel 🌠😌🌌
Glad you did too :)
Dig it! Helpful.
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Thank you... Spent years beating myself up about beating myself up knowing full well that all these constant jumping tangents that fill my insomniacal hours are logic loops and 'ripples' boomaranging on a return flight just to bite me in the arse. Sleep!!.I've 'researched' /dabbled with lots of types of self help kinds of stuff: White/pink/brown! noise. Asmr. binaural beats. Sleep stories. Car, train journeys. Total silence doesn't work - the amazing firework display of phosphenes keep me entertained for ages along with all the crazy harmonics that generate from the white noise of my own blood and nerves - my body hates me 😂. And that's just before all the endless hours of 'over thinking'. Of course this is a constant - not just a sleep thing... It affects my attention for reading/'studying'. Remembering things in general doesn't go down well in the workplace. It affects conversations- they can go awry quite quickly 😬. Sooo many things. Guided meditations never really helped much... But Your video is the first meaningful help I've had in a long time - it resonated. Again... Thank You - this really helped - a bit - I Think!!?
Also (while I'm still here) actually, actually.. A thought has mass with regard to energy spent making 'it' and energy of molecules decoding 'it', just saying.
God I'm a metaphysical jerk!
This is really 👍 good
Very nice video, as always. Thanks
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Wow. This really helped. Thanks
Glad it helped!
Poor me,,,,,I am the Ocean of Consciounes,,,!!,,,,The Ego enjoy this too,,,,,,rubhis,,it can not be describe,,,,,,,Thank You!
Its like the OBS screen recording app when you have it recording itself. lol Great video.
😂😂 just learning to use OBS
Grateful for the videos! Do you have any insight into how to see resistance, especially repression and suppression of thoughts and emotions. I find these activities are so quick and automatic that it's hard to even notice them, and getting familiar with these actions seems important for self knowledge.
The first key insight is insight into the direct experience of unbound Self, unbound consciousness. This is achieved with some form of self inquiry / one pointed approach as described in my book. Before that it’s essentially impossible to get at resistance patterns directly. Though it is possible to clarify things through vulnerable emotion work. After that shift in identity I would recommend work with equanimity to get at the resistance body and familiarize yourseif with shadow work ☺️
Inquiry it is then, thank you!
"We are such stuff as dreams are made of" 😊
Do you have a meditation video? Or do you consider these meditation videos. You always say somthing that hits the nail on the head. like " Could be a thought about that problem that never seems to end"... which it made me laugh. I like that!
I have no thoughts as I am listening, and your words replace my thought…
Thanks so much Angelo! I have started doing this practice in my meditation a week ago. I have noticed every time I get into this a spot in the right side of my neck gets painful and then spread to my right shoulder and as I pay attention to it it gets more intense (no pain before I sit and meditate). Then I feel that my whole right side of the brain feel strained and that is extended to my right eye. Today another element added to it. I heard a click like noise in the room and then my heart was beating so hard and so anxiously that I thought I can get a heart attack any second. Also I had this fear that there is a strange presence in the room. Thank god it was day time.. I wouldn’t be able to sit with this at night.. I had to open my eyes to check if anything is around.. even though I knew I am paranoid.. the heart beat dissipated after a while but neck, shoulder and head kept going even after meditation ended.. do you have any suggestions how to approach and sit with this consistent neck pain? Or the whole thing? Do you know why my heart was going so crazy? Should I stop the meditation or should keep going? Sorry for the long question… god bless you! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
neck pain you can try adjustment of position. Also try inquiry around the pain and you associated beliefs. The rest is a combination of kundalini and makyo . Nothing specific to do but recognize they are passing phenomena
To me thoughts are the first actual objects, they have dimensions, beginnings and ends. The current thought attracts the next one as an algorithm, then we attract a reaction thought.
It happens automatically, no creative act by someone. We cannot do anything, but live as reaction, second hand, after the event. That is why life seems stale, it has already happened.
You had me until life seems stale it already happened. While that’s true of thoughts , do you equate life to thoughts?
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake Probably more the way it used to be when consumed by thought. These days there are thoughts but I am not overwhelmed or defensive of the identity so much......so there is some witnessing going on, therefore life and thoughts are not experienced as the same. Makes sense that there is a plain of thoughts we can get lost in .....simply by ignorance of it. About stale, sense impressions trigger a thought then the mind owns the thought about an event that passed already.
And ow yeah. Please dont joke about time dilation. I've got a real bad case of it. Feels like everyone is in on the joke.
I was just telling my better half time is always seems to be dilating around me, she told me to shut up and go to bed. I laughed, then listened to her. My external dialog
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I like your shirt. That was my thought.
Thanks!
I have a crush on Terrance. He’s adorable
He’s an authentic guy… always willing to search the depths of his soul.
Can’t find anything when looking… rsss amazing …
It's thoughts all the way down...
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Which thoughts to listen to? How about the thought that says I'm going to call a friend for a coffee date? Which thoughts to not listen to?
You don't have to listen to any of them. If a thought comes about calling a friend for coffee, then another one follows saying, "I'm not going to listen to that thought," then so be it. Then just watch and see what actually happens. You might be surprised :)
Consciousness is a vast ocean and we are drops of water, surrounded by an imaginary film of plastic veneer we call the self
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Angelo, I’ve had moments of terror around the possibility of solipsism and being all alone while inquiring lol Is this common?
Yes very common :)
Subtract the ideas around beliefs and solipsism and just feel the raw emotion. It will pass :)))
Very common, the ego doesn't like being told he exists. The left brain doesn't like what it thinks is illogical
For as long as our thoughts are about an ongoing, never ending problems and facts of our life, what different dose it make if we figure out what is the substance of it? finding out that the thought itself is a temporary formation of energy and fades away, doesn't make our problems fade away, dose it? it is only a temporary relief!
All I can say is the deeper realization goes the less problematic problems become :) You could say with liberation there are still problems to solve, challenges and situations in life, but there is no longer suffering, the experience of separation or isolation, or struggle.
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake I agree with you, I guess one of the misunderstanding that people like me have about awakenings is that, we no longer need to think and everything blissfully take care of itself. I have to find a way to think blissfully...,what?
It’s mostly the brain’s threat detection function at work that is going on for me with thoughts. “What if this….what if that….have you remembered to…you urgently need to….” It’s just trying to avoid danger for me. So if I notice it, I can respond with ‘hello thought, thanks, I got this’, and drop. No discussion with it.
Yes, compassion. Here is key
By looking at a thought,without thinking,there isn't a thought🙃
......there's no distraction from what is
.....just what is🌈
The crazy thing is, nothing happens without thinking 👁
When thoughts stop, you don't exist😆.......there is form and color, there is sound....nothing else....and not even that is known😑
Absolutely YES!! Isn't it incredible just to be here? 😉 Being...
thanks. what do you mean by the 'nature of the thought' ?
I'm not sure what you are asking. Something specific in this video? Or more generally?
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake yes @ 5.42. thanks again.
Where's the fulcrum?
What do you do with thoughts after the fact? I mean you realize it WAS a thought... do you bring it back and analyze it?
Analysis is more thinking just notice the thought that is there right now. So if it’s “I have to analyze the last thought” then let that be the only thought, what is it made out of?
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake This seems impossible. By the time there is awareness of a thought, it's already a memory isn't it? Or do you mean repeat the same thought like a mantra to try and catch where it comes from?
@@rodrigotpena so the current thought is now “that seems impossible…” so then we just notice that is the only correct thought, then become curious about the substance of that thought, what is being referenced? Etc
U wont reply to any my comments man..I dont hate but need a solid answer from a solid devotee to let me know about this practice being done in activities that require free will and ego to perform like driving or being in a line anywhere? Dude just give me ur experience it would bring me a lot of relief and give a good understanding how to go about the Dao the Way.
You won't have to worry about that until deep stage realization. No need to put the cart waaaaaaay before the horse. If someone is genuinely interested in this process I would recommend working on that first shift initially. I've seen many many people go through awakening and they drive just fine. However my attention doesn't necessarily go to your ability to drive after awakening, but more to the fears and doubts, and hesitation about all of this. I highly recommend sitting with all of this and deciding what it is you want to accomplish and what you think working with this stuff will give you. The first chapter in my book is "Cautions" and I put it there for a reason. It's important to be clear on what you are doing and why when it comes to realization. As Adyashanti has said (and rightly so), "you can get yourself into some places you don't want to be and it can be very hard to get out of." I hope you take my cautions seriously.
Hi Angelo, I have just bought your book and have been watching your videos recently. I like your approach. I have a question about a condition I was diagnosed with. A neurological developmental condition or as the medical profession like to call it a disorder of ADHD. I have ADHD is such a identification but it does serve to explain how my brain works. I have the inattentive type. Do you have any insights about such a condition in relation to awakening? A lot of my thoughts revolve around wanting to get better at completing tasks, maintaining a healthy routine and motivating myself to do things. This seems to re enforce an identity. I may not be making my question very clear. I feel a deep frustration a lot of the time. I have had some glimpses which can last a few days. The thinking often then grabs the glimpse and slots it into an experience file. Any comment would be appreciated. X