Mineral Oil Submerged GPU Crypto Mining Rig Build - Part 1
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- The one where HashRaptor begins the Mineral Oil Submerged GPU Cryptocurrency Mining Rig. We'll start with one GPU and learn as we go. In upcoming videos we will add active cooling to the mineral oil which heats up the longer you mine while submerged.
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✅ Fans will spin at a much lower RPM, but will not burn out. They do help circulate the oil.
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I definitely held onto my butt lol awesome Hash Raptor!
Red Panda i would like to see you test something like this too please. 😇
hey bud. do you need the cooler if its submerged in oil?? what would the temp difference be?
Testing some 3080 would be awesome (and risky) 😆
@@sibzh I think it would work well. the only thing the oil attacks is the plastic parts and there would be contsistant flow accros the gpu as the hot oil rises. and if it doesnt work itll just thermal throttle
According to your last video, you need to submerge into mineral oil your whole basement ;)
Thanks I’ve been waiting for someone to do this, no more fan noise!!
This is such great content, really excited for immersion vids, feels like I'm taking the learning journey with you. Nice work!
This is awesome! I am having serious overheating issues with some rigs with the current heatwave. It would be awesome to try to do this on a few rigs. Once I see what you can do with the pump to give more cooling, I may try this on a rig. Thanks for showing the small-time miners like me what is possible!
I’m excited to see more keep up the good work 👍🏻
Dude this is awesome!!! Can’t wait for the next part
Thanks my man. Yes it is fun and initially scary. I'm getting into now though.
Great video! Here are some things that I have been working on.
1. Add perforated floor to tank with about an inch gap between tank and floor.
2. Create reservoir in middle of tank. The reservoir should open up to the perforated floor cavity and be slightly lower than the fill level of fluid.
3. Add radiator to middle tank reservoir. Cold water enters top of radiator and hot water comes out of bottom. This water is on a cooling loop that goes out to fan cooled radiator. (this is to allow multiple tanks to be added to loop)
4. Strip GPU of everything. Heat sink and thermal pads. Clean GPU throughly. I use an ultrasonic cleaner. (I have found 1 row output cards to be the best in space efficiency) Replace factory heat sink with copper foam heat sink to cover main chip only. GPU main die should be as low in tank as possible.
5. All cables must terminate higher than fluid level to control capillary action.
6. This design creates convection flow and eliminates the need for a water/oil pump. Oil comes up from perforated plate cavity and is cool then passes over GPU which heats liquid. Hot liquid rises and falls into cooling reservoir. Radiator cools liquid, forcing it downward towards perforated cavity.
7. There is a different oil that I recommend but I will have to find the name and post it, if you are interested.
8. Do not submerge PSU. The caps in PSU will degrade quickly and fail.
Dude please make a video of this
Awesome vid. Can't wait to see how this progesses.
Fantastic video material!
Mission Impossible 7 - Aquarium Protocol... Good job man !
ahahahahaha!
That looks exciting but extremely scaring, looking forward to long term results
Awesome stuff!!!
this is awesome. I cant wait to see what cooling solution you come up with. Keep up the good work
I'm gonna try everything I can :). If you have any ideas, let me know and I'll put it on the list!
@@HashRaptor if I have any and I’m sure I will. I will tag you in your discord with it
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Woe.... man that's crazy!! Love it
This is awesome. I’m strapped in and ready for more. I love your appreciation for learning and experimenting.
Awesome! Thank you, that means a lot coming from you. Yeah, I could definitely have gotten some free expensinve enterprise grade liguid to demo, but this is one of those things I really wanted to experience step by step, instead of jumping to the end with someone telling me the best setup. Keep up the great work man! You present your material much better than I do for sure. Love your channel! Everyone be sure to sub to Red Fox Crypto !!!
Get a 3090 in there! Awesome vid hashRaptor
LOL, if I had a 3090 I'd probably be too scared to put it in there!
if that oil reaches 131C it will burn skin exposed for 5 seconds. also, better make sure that the aquarium can handle a certain temp before it cracks.
Yes you are exactly right. I'm actually not letting it get above 50C max before I shut things down and start the next experiment. That has only happened once or twice so far. Definitely need active cooling for the oil. Thanks for watching and sharing!
Really good video I've been wanting to see someone try this
why would anyone choose this over seek hash with much more th/s?
Here before this channel blows up by winter.
I was asking myself watching some vid about mineral oil cooling and you publish the one I'm totally interested in 3h ago
I haven't watched the video yet but i bet its a banger
Haha, definitely fun and a bit scary!
Very excite!
Very interesting concept, nice vid sir!
Thank you kindly!
12:50 just watching the hot oil coming off the top... this is just too cool
Props my man, this has been my dream since I was a young man and designed power transformers , I wanted to submerge the whole thing in silicon (even better than mineral oil , well until you spill it)
I’ve brought the idea up with CS people but it’s always hand waved as “too messy”
It looks like your exchanging the liquid , that seems overly complex , I haven’t got to watch your whole video yet but I’m sure your doing it for some reason.
The idea to me was overheating wouldn’t be a problem if you have it oil or silicon immersed.
What you should do is have a metal cylinder made of pure #1 aluminum get it thick , maybe 40mm diameter. Threaded top, and fitted for filling will liquid nitrogen. Have a purge valve so it empties as it gets used up.
During peak times you could manually inject it like water/methanol in a diesel engine , or perhaps some arduino need can rig it to a thermostat and solenoid system regulated by a program.
Cheers
That's crazy man.
Good shit brother
It’s going to have way too much heat if you put in 5-6 cards. Need to make the oil flow to another tank or something. If you let it run for days, the oil is just going to get too hot.
LOL this is insane!! amazing!
LOL, thanks!
Looks scary from the title, hope it goes well, watching now!
Supercool vid
Subbed dor update!
"Currently Out of Stock" has no longer made me giddy for these kinds of projects
Hey, that fish in the fish tank is cute
ahahaha! I need a little robot fish.
Wow, that's bravery:)
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Nice project👍go hashraptor go.......
woot woot!
Its just insane... hahahahahah Thank you for that man. Greetings from Brazil
Make sure you take into account capillary action along those cables as the oil heats up.
I'm interested how you cool the oil next. A radiator will obviously be the best but maybe there is a way of doing things passively? Maybe something with heatpipes? I dont know how that would be possible though it does sound interesting
I would add a powerhead (fish tank item) and then use the plastic upright cut down to size. take the riser that holds tank tank gravel up, and put the riser on it then powerhead. It will give you HUGE circulation in the tank. To cool oil, I would use another powerhead to pump oil into another tank, and chill it will a fish tank cooler/chiller. Used in places like Tucson/Tuma Arizona to cool water for Salt water fish. Then 3rd powerhead to pump it bank into the mining tank. If I remember correctly, powerheads can be set for the amount of water/oil moved.
I love all of this!!! Thanks so much. 2 questions if I may. I was looking around for a fish tank cooler/chiller as you described but couldn't find anything. I kept running into expensive cold plates used in kitchens. Do you have a recommendation there?
@@HashRaptor Let me look. It has been 20+ years since I had a salt tank.
@@HashRaptor OK.. used this as Google search "saltwater fish tank chiller" and here is Amazon "www.amazon.com/aquarium-chiller/s?k=aquarium+chiller"
@@HashRaptor Long post:
Power head:
www.amazon.com/AquaClear-Powerhead-Gallons-Hour-Listed/dp/B0002602VE/ref=sr_1_35?dchild=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8IaGBhCHARIsAGIRRYoOly62_GM4s2wBpL6yaRcT1qBQU07VZB3JUWTAWDD4pXUPwXOBjwUaAscTEALw_wcB&hvadid=214461358959&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9011555&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=9103093232000333976&hvtargid=kwd-345723204606&hydadcr=16170_9893070&keywords=saltwater+powerhead&qid=1623360576&sr=8-35
Cheaper one:
www.chewy.com/marineland-maxi-jet-water-circulation/dp/133098?Marineland&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8IaGBhCHARIsAGIRRYqAFKodC6wa5G5sMCCvbyzMRwmgU5oDFklUBAhZsbK5OgHM0XNngfcaAo3bEALw_wcB
Plastic Riser: could not find plastic riser. it is just a tube that the powerhead goes into. Any fish store will have them. (I think, as I said. Been a minute since I had a tank.)
Filter for bottom: www.chewy.com/s?query=fish%20tank%20underground%20filter&nav-submit-button=
Add chiller.
Hope this helps.
@@HashRaptor Dude. you got me rolling in mining. I am tickled to death to be able to give anything back.
This is rad ! So interesting. Curious what happens long term
I think that with good enough circulation of the oil in the tank taking the radiator off would improve heat transfer from the die into the oil, as it would be more direct. Maybe you could submerge the second card without the radiator? It would be very interesting to see. Cool project!
Cool,but consider to remove vents from gpus,and add car radiator and some 12 or 14 cm cooler to cover that radiator
You a crazy man :)
haha Indeed!
Thank You.
you bet
really good, have spoke to 3m and Engineered fulids they recomend removing the fans and heat sinks.
and heat sinks???? Happy to hear you spoke to 3m, that is awesome. Keep us posted on how it goes!
pretty sweet maybe some small cooling tanks with fans on them just for some fire ideas and fun
So sweet! Can you do a video using LN2 to super cool a gpu while mining? Would be sickkkk vid🇺🇸🤘
Nice 😳🧐👍
Fascinating project. Think the protection against exposed solder joints on the underneath of the PCI-E will need to be removed as the mineral oil will break this down unless mistaken.
any issues with a 4 foot usb cable? i figured that was way too long
My idea is that remove fan and 2 small acrylic tank. And 1 side is gpu and 1 side is reserve loop in a radiator mechanism. God like cooling!
Just finding out oils are non conductive. Seriously 🤯 This changes everything
It is nuts but fun :). Still figuring things out!
get an oil cooler from like a car and use the pump to moved fluid in it and stick a couple of fans on the oil cooler should be good enoth
Maybe you could use the liquid cooler with the pump, used for a custom cooling systems, and have the pipes placed on the opposite side of this tank. It could cool down the oil.
fill it with gpu's and run a 100 gph aquarium pump pushing the hot oil up and out, into a cheap automotive radiator or pc water cooler radiator with fans, then run the tube to an aquarium water chiller which cools the oil to 60 f, pumped back into the aquarium
Nice😃😃
Thanks my friend. Fun project for sure!
Turning off fans should reduce electrical draw, improving efficiency. Interesting video!
Okay, I've heard leaving them on helps with circulation, but I'll give it a shot with them off also. Thanks for the suggestion!
Checking, can SSD able to use on mineral oil? ( saw other UA-cam mention can’t, but the video is 3 years ago) . What about power supply, also can submerge into mineral oil?
Off-topic. Do you have a electric circuit power monitor? If so, what kind?
Wow how did you get the wattage so low on your cards? My 480 and 580s run at 97-103 watts each
I have a question or u can say doubt. Do we need those fans attached anymore. Once it is immersed in that cooling solution. Correct me if I m wrong.
Yes plz, enlighten us by taking risk urself so we can march ahead.😎
haha, yeah this seems really crazy.
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Nice demonstration. The pump is definitely not doing anything other than adding heat to the oil since the fans should be doing most of the agitating. Would like to see how it performs with even just a simple 2-3 fan radiator hooked up to it externally. You should see a difference in the saturation temp of the system.
Great point! and yes you are correct. Literally wanted to walk through this step by step. The pump is actually for a future test, but I just wanted to see what would happen if I moved the oil around even more right now. Funny story I wish I was filming, I plugged that pump in while it was facing up with no tubing attached. Yeah, so I had a fountain spraying up in the air IN THE OFFICE LOL. I looked ridiculus hopping around trying to get it unplugged!
@@HashRaptor hahaha yeah careful with the business end there! Can't imagine mineral oil being very fun to clean up. You made an interesting point too about the thermal paste breaking down... I wonder how much of a concern that is. My main reason for being interested in an immersion setup is to be able to protect the cards from thermal degradation, humidity/corrosion and dust accumulation. In theory this should reduce maintenance costs and improve longevity, but if you have to service them to replace the thermal paste anyways then if might be a moot point. You mentioned the commercial grade 3M liquid in the vid, but didnt see link in description. Do you plan to test this? Is it supposed to address the thermal paste issue?
I'm planning to do something similar with an S9.
first GPURiser submerged!
Can you give some updates on how mineral oil affected plastic parts over time ?? From my experience plastic pump and mineral oil won't go along to well...
Stupid question: Isn't it like water-cooling? Don't you need to remove the heat from the liquid?
Pretty cool experimentation though. I hope it is worth it because water-cooling for mining for example, is not really something you would do if you want to minimize your initial investment :)
Looking forward to the next videos
Absolutely! If I let this run with no active cooling all day, it gets really hot. Stay tuned ;)
Scavenge pump at the bottom pushing hot fluid through an external 360 mil rad with fans pushing air through. Then have it waterfall off one of the long sides back into the tank.
I’m actually about to start a very similar project for work.
Rock on! Let me know
This will definitely run for a year prior to dying. You will have to use Dielectric Fluids Electro cool (EC-100) from Engineered Fluids. How are you dissipating heat? Do you have a heat exchanger /radiator? how big is it?
Yes you are right on my friend! Stay tuned and you will see all of that. And I definitely want to try some of the fluids designed specifically for GPU's next. This entire experiment has got me thinking, have you tried deep cleaning GPU's with mineral oil? As in dust it out and clean it well, then dip it in minderal oil. Man, it seems like this stuff does really well getting dust out of all the cracks and crevices!
If you can send me your email, I will send you the recent liquid immersion cooling DIY by me using bc-888 fluid for asic miners z15 & a10 pro
Does the price of mineral oil pay for the cooling efficiency ?
Does it actually need the gpu fan when its submersed?🙂
Cool experiment, but I’m having trouble seeing the point. I doubt heat is the limiting factor in your hash rate, it’s usually more down to memory stability. With these cards in particular, I doubt any extra cooling is going to allow you to clock the memory any faster.
have you tried to run it through a hydroponic water chiller?
That was very interesting to watch!
Why wouldn't you want to keep this long term? Seems quieter, cooler. Do you have to replace the oil tho?
It could be interesting to figure out a way to heat a home with the oil, like maybe run it through pipes, that heat the floor of the room for example.
I want to submerge my beagle in mineral oil as well :D this really got me excited to try it out! Thanks! :))
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Stay tuned :). Still testing. New video soon!
I don’t mine, but thinking of dabbling. And as a bit of a tech nut I approve of this “experiment. My question is: does the heated oil rise like air above the cool oil. If so, that could be valuable info for card and pump placement. Although it could also be negligible 🤷♂️
Crazy and cool I'm curious how this doesn't affect the card from working?
LOL, me too!
Sunflower oil works also
I think you should go to a junkyard and grab an old car radiator & rig up some pumps and fans to it.
LOL, that is crazy enough it just might work!
Aren't you supposed to removed fans and outer body? leave just heatsink and card
I have been running a 1080ti setup dunked in mineral oil for about 2 years now.. it can get messy.. make sure you have plenty of paper towels!
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Can it be used for more than 1 month? without stop
Put a big radiator on there
There's a resistance problem with the fans. Higher resistance = more heat. try removing the fans. It should bring the heat down and save the fans. Adding the green submersible pump probably added to the heat. Those things get very hot. At the moment the mineral oil is tackling the heat from the GPU and the pump. Getting the oil to move is probably not going to be a problem coz it would naturally from hot to cold. You could remove the green pump completely or get an external pump.
Agreed. The pump being immersed in the oil means it just becomes another heat source, and indeed they do become quite hot. Better to use an external pump.
get a small office fridge coil up some coper tube in side pump the oil though the tube inside the fridge.
might as well put everything in the tank to include the psu and motherboard
Noob question, how are you able to run it in oil? Wouldn't that damage it?
Hey, no mineral oil actually is non conductive. You would definitely be better off using a GPU specific oil which is much more expensive, but I wanted to start at the bottom as this is my first trial.
I would think it would work better taking the fans and cooler off and just have the exposed board....I think that's what BBT was doing with the liquid cooling they were doing...I think the same as others that the fans are going to burn out from the resistance the liquid is making...that's why they are so slow in comparison to how fast they would be turning normally....can't wait to see what you do next...very interesting
No and no, the fans are fine yes there is more resistance but you will find a reduction of heat with in them so in reality the fans should last longer in that situation as for the cooler the surface area isnt large enough to directly remove the heat from a die to fluid interface which still isnt as efficient as metal the system works as is you can not remove the heat sink but if you remove the fans then you still need another way to circulate the fluid or a much larger heat sink
This is interesting. how often do you think this need servicing? Without fan or backplate attach, maybe it will be easier to service? If this work well, would be a great workaround for those monsterous 3090/3080 hot air maker 🤣
i have less than 10 gpu, thats already making the room really hot, not to mention the already hot climate im living in 😂
Man that is a good question. I would guess it would be good to service it every 3 to 6 months. But that would really be as a check in. Will let you know.
@@HashRaptor I really wanted to try this with 3m novec 1 phase instead of white mineral oil. But from research so far might be quite expensive. Have not gotten reply quote from 3M in my country. Probably they just glance at my request for small order.
From manufacturer & experimentation result document, seem it can be easily clean with isopropyl alcohol by spraying, with minor residue that might need focus cleaning.
3-6 months per maintenance window seem ok. Once the secondary market flooded with cheap gpu, then gonna buy those for testing 😂
Go to a beer brewing equipment store and grab a wort chiller, cheap and extremely effective!
wher we can buy this oil other than amazon ? and also is their a specific oil number or name just to the exact oil , thakn you
Hey, not sure but if you have the money, I'd recommend enterprise grade. This will work for a while, but you will get better performance.
it been almost one month since you did this. is it still working ? have u faced any issues ? i heard some ppl said that their might be some dameg for plastic and rubber over time
Hey, thanks so much for watching. Check out part 2 which is already up. Also, part 3 should go up in the next few days. Trying to get to a stopping point in that testing. Take care!
Is the mineral oil not acidic?
Finally, a solution for RX 6700 XT.
Peltier Cell with rad on both sides... The cold rad on the oil to reduce temp :v
what is the temp difference as compared to the air cooling method?
I am about to put out a video soon on the radiator testing I'm doing. Stay tuned for that and I'll go into this a little more. Don't have the final numbers yet :)