How Does The Jaeger-LeCoultre Atmos Clock Work? - Watch and Learn #44

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  • @bslaws
    @bslaws Рік тому +16

    I inherited an Atmos clock when my mother passed away. My parents purchased it in Switzerland in 1959 and it has never stopped. It was serviced in 2006 and still keeps fantastic time. Thank you for the detailed explanation of the winding operation.

    • @jeffreyoldham55
      @jeffreyoldham55 Рік тому

      I just inherited one made in 1956. It's currently locked and inoperable. I'm uncertain how to unlock it. Does it require a special tool?

    • @theamerican7080
      @theamerican7080 Рік тому +4

      @@jeffreyoldham55 The lever beneath the base locks the movement.

    • @Gabe_the_watch_enthusiast
      @Gabe_the_watch_enthusiast 3 місяці тому

      Nice!😊

  • @Montanamade
    @Montanamade 2 роки тому +3

    I have one 10 years older. Love the piece so much

  • @perrylocke6037
    @perrylocke6037 2 роки тому +2

    My Atmos clock was my Grandfathers retirement from GM gift. It sat on Grandma's piano. Then it sat on Mom's cabinet. They all didn't like it much cause it would start and stop. I noticed when you walked past it the rotating pendulum would wiggle. I took it to my house and put it on the solid mantle and it would not wiggle even if I jumped around. Now it runs nicely. Love it.

  • @lupo631
    @lupo631 5 років тому +21

    Because of your perfect explanations I bought yesterday an Atmos II from 1948/49, complete revised by a specialist. Thanx a lot! Lupo from Germany

  • @Pollogallinoo
    @Pollogallinoo 6 років тому +18

    I just admire how authentic Mark is, and the passion he transmits through these videos! thanks for your time !!!

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  6 років тому +2

      Thanks so much, I try to tell it how it is.

  • @capnchip
    @capnchip 5 років тому +4

    I have the EXACT model Atmos clock. It is a 1965 model. It never wavers in its ability to keep time. At one point about 10 years ago I opened it and applied a VERY small amount of fine oil to the mechanism. It keeps very very very good time. Absolutely amazing.! I love it!

  • @uconn44
    @uconn44 2 роки тому

    Finally, understand how my 45 year old ATMOS Clock works! Many Thanks!

  • @RogerMillerInVA
    @RogerMillerInVA 8 місяців тому

    Like you, I've wanted an Atmos for many years. Like you, I bought one several months ago, and I love it. I marvel that such a beautiful little machine exists. In my home!!

  • @TheWatchCorner
    @TheWatchCorner 2 роки тому

    Found it Mark, thanks for telling me 3 years back in your Playlist! Watching now will comment after👍👊

  • @skindude9251
    @skindude9251 3 роки тому +9

    Thanks Mark! I just got my dads Atmos to work after several years and its great to understand the inner workings of such a beautiful engineering marvel. He would have loved your video too x

  • @1f77ru
    @1f77ru 5 років тому +7

    I have a model 519 and continue to be amazed that it continues to keep accurate time after almost 70 years of continuous use. Truly a special piece of mechanical reality in a world of digital unreality. Thanks for putting out a great video on a true classic.

  • @thesilent_gamer5137
    @thesilent_gamer5137 3 роки тому +2

    I once read an article that said. For the atmosphere clock to stop working, the sun has to stop shinning. A truly amazing piece of engineering.

  • @MiamiWebDesign
    @MiamiWebDesign 2 роки тому

    Great video. My father has owned one of these for around 40 years and we had no idea how it worked until now. Thanks for this one.

  • @roscoereels
    @roscoereels 3 роки тому +1

    I just picked up one tonight for $20.... I am excited to get it working.

  • @fetchingphotos
    @fetchingphotos 2 роки тому

    Thanks, this video is just what I needed to get a 1970 Atmos I inhereted from my aunt running again! What a fascinating clock!

  • @powertube5671
    @powertube5671 6 років тому

    Great video. My grandfather had one in the 50s sitting on his mantle. As a kid, I used to stare and stare at it working and, beleive it or not, I did NOT touch it. The clock went to my aunt, then to one of her kids. I bought mine over ten years ago while visiting family in a clock shop in Mt. Healthy, OH. I have had to stop it and start it because of Christmas decorations and because of change in EST to DST. Often the change in time would cause it to not run very long. It's been stopped for a few years, but I am having it serviced. I still love the clock.

  • @jamieopulence
    @jamieopulence 2 роки тому

    Very cool explanation guide! I’m totally in love with the majestic Atmos clock. I fulfilled my dream too and bought the Atmos clock as a wedding anniversary gift to my beloved wife

  • @jeanclaudeangri1108
    @jeanclaudeangri1108 2 роки тому

    I realize this is a 4 year old video, but the information gave me and insight you provided in this video was awesome and accurate.
    The other guy on UA-cam ( Curt’s clocks) is just trying to sell his overpriced clock repair services. Which are ridiculous.
    You actually outlined and described the things I needed to get mine up and running. Thank you very much.
    This is a very professional page and I do appreciate your time.

  • @triviace
    @triviace 6 років тому +1

    WOW,just when I thought I had ALL of the stuff I wanted,this video shows up.My Aunt had one of these,I think it was purchased in Switzerland back in the 1960's.Fascinating!

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  6 років тому

      Super cool, glad you could connect with it.

  • @DimePieceTimepiece
    @DimePieceTimepiece 6 років тому +42

    Mark from Long Island Watch is a purveyor of fine horological entertainments. Fact.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  6 років тому +2

      Haha, thank you for that.

    • @sarahconner9433
      @sarahconner9433 2 роки тому +1

      Haha... You said purveyor..... When shading someone you call them a "peddler"!!!! Hahaha

    • @DimePieceTimepiece
      @DimePieceTimepiece 2 роки тому +2

      @@sarahconner9433 lolol. Mark is no peddler he's on the Mt Rushmore of UA-cam watch people

  • @samsharma9207
    @samsharma9207 2 роки тому

    I just bought this and here to figure it out. Thanks!

  • @aaronhammer6110
    @aaronhammer6110 3 роки тому

    Inherited one of these. Mobil Oil. Now I understand how it works. Was able to google search further with this info and found that the suspension wire is broken. Great info.

  • @gongringer
    @gongringer 7 місяців тому

    My Atmos clock dates from July of 1963. It was presented to my father, John G.W. McIntyre, in appreciation of five years work in Australia with Ford Motor Company. It is almost identical to your clock with serial number 142034. The entire glass case can be removed by releasing two small bolts on each side. There is no release for the front glass. I can now look inside and understand how it works - your attention to detail is exceptional. It now resides in my home in Vancouver, Canada. It keeps company with another very accurate clock: A Seth Thomas World Model 1917 Canadian Pacific Railway pendulum clock.

  • @sportster883able
    @sportster883able 6 років тому +4

    I have seen the Atmos many times but this video was amazing and super informative. Thanks Marc

  • @pauldyck4596
    @pauldyck4596 2 роки тому

    Good explanation of how the Atmos works and I liked the time lapse segment.

  • @anthonymedina7274
    @anthonymedina7274 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you Mark for your video. I recently purchased the same identical clock that you own yesterday from an Antique store. Very great and affordable price as well. It's amazing how this clock works and runs. The only downside when I purchased the clock were the four brass screws that hold the top were missing. But all around a great purchase

  • @Namesi
    @Namesi 6 років тому +6

    JLC - Your favorite watchmaker's favorite watchmaker; and clockmaker! This was so cool Mark thank you for sharing

  • @bettersteps
    @bettersteps 2 роки тому

    I own this exact clock and haven't touched it for many years; haven't moved it either. Fantastic clock; very undervalued and under-appreciated. You only need to put it on a level surface and never screw with it. Really. Once you find a place for it, only touch it with your eyes.

  • @daletaylorjr.4786
    @daletaylorjr.4786 6 років тому +2

    This is by far the most interesting review I’ve watched in a while. I didn’t even know this was a thing but now I’m intrigued.
    Thank you for sharing.

  • @Chris-pb3se
    @Chris-pb3se 4 роки тому

    Really great vid Mark. Please don’t hesitate to venture away from watches more. This was a welcome surprise

  • @Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968
    @Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968 3 місяці тому

    And I thought I knew everything about mechanical watch and clock movements. 😂
    I just saw one of these on sale here in the UK on a famous antiques TV show.
    After a very brief description of what it did, my appetite for more information was whetted.
    Thanks for the great comprehensive introduction to these clocks.
    Not sure if owning one is for me, to be honest. I see the advantage and disadvantage of
    ownership. Repairing and to a degree, servicing this clock is beyond the scope of most
    amateur or hobbyist watch makers.

  • @cammacca8430
    @cammacca8430 6 років тому +8

    Very interesting. Thanks Mark for another brilliant video.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  6 років тому

      Thank for your checking it out.

  • @swabby429
    @swabby429 6 років тому +1

    How incredibly amazing! I wish I had a fireplace mantel to display such a timepiece.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  6 років тому +2

      LOL, now you have a reason to get a fireplace :)

  • @kaypee1972
    @kaypee1972 2 роки тому

    Great description, thanks! What an awesome clock

  • @aramkrikorian9460
    @aramkrikorian9460 6 років тому +1

    Great video, Mark. Thanks. I found myself trying to make improvements to it in my head. Now I want to build a pizza oven in my back yard and with a sundial on it.

  • @MrDoobie17
    @MrDoobie17 2 роки тому

    I received my Atmos clock from my uncle, who inherited it from my grandfather. He had received it from NCR as an award. This video helped me tremendously in learning about it. Unfortunately, I wasn't told you needed gloves to handle it. The outside of the clock is in pretty poor condition. The gold is rubbed off and scratched in places, sadly since it's pretty old. Thank you for your informative video!

  • @TheWatchCorner
    @TheWatchCorner 2 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing Mark. Great pick up for sure. Very interesting clock for sure.👍👍👌💯

  • @SmolStufff
    @SmolStufff 6 років тому +5

    Great video! I wasn't aware this had ever been done before so successfully. After watching this I found out that people tried making 'thermal' watches. (Bulova Thermotron / Seiko thermic) Those however were based on the Seebeck-effect. The JLC looks a lot more like a stirling engine.

    • @Iyiouseismouse
      @Iyiouseismouse 4 роки тому +2

      7hink1 commander keen! Going to look into what your talking about since I know nothing about it, but it seems interesting

  • @beautifulsmall
    @beautifulsmall 4 роки тому +1

    output mechanism looks like 400 day clock. great video.

  • @robbyddurham1624
    @robbyddurham1624 2 роки тому +1

    My aunt got one of these clocks for retirement gift from her work. When I was young and before the internet, I'd look that clock over and try and figure out how it ran w/o being wound or plugged into the wall or batteries. My dad said the pendulum. I argue that it couldn't be it, nothing runs for ever, the friction and gravity would eventually slow the pendulum down. I saw the little wire on top and wonder if radio waves ran it. Then I got the internet and looked it up. Years later. I'd tell everyone that saw the clock how it worked on temperature change and that there was chamber that expanded and contracted with room temp change. None of my family would remember when I'd ask them the next time I visited. It's now my clock. I said that I get it because no one else knows how it runs and I'm the only one that cared enough to learn. It's been running for close to 40 years. The same aunt gave me a seiko watch when I was around 13. 43 years ago. It still runs, but needs batteries changed. It's a quart crystal watch. Stainless steel.

  • @kschristi50
    @kschristi50 3 роки тому

    We have an Atmos clock very similar given to my FIL when he retired from NCR . (Also have late 1800’s NCR cash register, nickel plated in 1905). We also have original case the clock came in. It still works! We have babied it since we inherited it.

  • @nztimeteller
    @nztimeteller 2 роки тому

    They came in 1920's ? How am I just learning about them now ? :o This is brilliant !!!!

  • @TomF1970
    @TomF1970 6 років тому +2

    total fascinating. great explanation on how it works. thanks

  • @mtm101designs9
    @mtm101designs9 Рік тому

    Thanks for a really excellent explanation.

  • @peterwong1531
    @peterwong1531 4 роки тому

    Thank you Mark for sharing..i really like the time lapse which you took the trouble to filmed..regards from Singapore.

  • @samuellarouche1894
    @samuellarouche1894 5 років тому +5

    « If your clock is upside down, you probably have larger issues »
    Indeed😂

  • @Riley0509
    @Riley0509 Рік тому

    I just acquired one of these. Fascinating video. Thanks.

  • @MarkinToronto
    @MarkinToronto Рік тому

    Fantastic video of the clocks workings. I've one that I'll be selling shortly due to family issues and have just been cleaning it, VERY carefully I might add. I'm a technician by trade and appreciate your description of it. As well as the need to be extremely careful with such a thing.

  • @DavidJones-en3mz
    @DavidJones-en3mz 6 років тому

    Thank you Mark. I have my father's clock from the SIxties and I never quite knew how it worked until your excellent video described clearly how it functions. Well done Sir! And much appreciated!

  • @e.eeyore2862
    @e.eeyore2862 6 років тому +3

    Well done Marc! I love those clocks! So neat to see how the work. Thank you so much!

  • @nickb275
    @nickb275 10 місяців тому

    Thx for this video. My father gave me his atmospheric clock last Christmas. My sister had just passed away at age 50, so dad wanted me to have it before he died. It will then go to my son when or if I get to my father's age. Anyway, love the video. Very well done. Just for laughs, I do daylight saving time by using lock. Either wait one hour or 23 hrs depending. Regards

  • @bubbab7792
    @bubbab7792 6 років тому +4

    Nicely done Marc, very interesting video. Love the history and engineering behind the Atmos. Thank you for sharing.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  6 років тому +1

      Thanks for taking the time.

  • @saffanfarook1038
    @saffanfarook1038 3 роки тому

    Very good explanation. hope to see more videos in deferent things

  • @linty2
    @linty2 Рік тому

    Amazing video I just bought a Jaeger-LeCoultre Atmos 540 on ebay. This video help me set it up.

  • @garybaldwin1061
    @garybaldwin1061 5 років тому +3

    Hi Mark. I just inherited this same clock from my grandmother who bought in in 1962 new. It came with the original certificate and instructions. When you reengage the lock mechanism do you wait until the pendulum stops rotating to move the lever back to the right. Or can you do it any time? Great video...very helpful.

  • @peterlewis3540
    @peterlewis3540 2 роки тому

    Many thanks a lovely video, on a stunning clock
    I had some idea on the operating system, of a bellows, similar to a barometer, working on atmospheric pressure, but it was a delight to watch the intricacies of the clock.

  • @wireguided9572
    @wireguided9572 6 років тому +10

    Brilliant vid. I've got to get me one of these. Thanks.

  • @MM-cr7dq
    @MM-cr7dq 6 років тому +1

    A great idea, interesting power mechanism, great vid Mark.

  • @RuffisOak
    @RuffisOak 6 років тому +2

    Truly a work of art

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  6 років тому

      It is, very nice to look at.

  • @russm535il
    @russm535il 6 місяців тому

    Thank you Marc a Great informative video 😊👍

  • @mads4it555
    @mads4it555 4 роки тому +1

    This is awesome... I really, really want one, but it's waaay out of my poor little budget ☹
    Thank you so much for explaining. It's so close to perpetual motion, that it's indistinguishable and totally incredible.
    When I win the lottery...! 😁

  • @thegit8698
    @thegit8698 6 років тому

    That's one of the coolest things to do with time keeping I've seen, it reminds me of my grandmother's barometer

  • @REdwardHiggy
    @REdwardHiggy 3 роки тому

    Great Job. Best explanation of how the Atmos clock works. You really did an excellent job on showing the way the clock winds itself. It must have taken you you a considerable amount of time to film the actual chain driven mechanism. Congratulations on a job well done.!!

  • @ottor.gonzalezn.5798
    @ottor.gonzalezn.5798 Рік тому

    I was finally able to get mine today!, So exciting... I saw an Atmos video a couple years ago. Great video with clarifications!! Thank you Mark, btw Dave Berghold store has your watches and it was great to be able to see one and feel one before buying it. Great watch, I enjoy it a lot!!

  • @Alex-di8ti
    @Alex-di8ti 6 років тому

    I never even knew these existed, thanks for showing us, what an engineering marvel :)

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  6 років тому

      Super cool, thanks for watching!

  • @mikev3245
    @mikev3245 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for explaining in detail how the Atmos works. I've been into these clocks since I first saw them at Tiffany's in Chicago many years ago. They haven't had them in stock since they stopped carrying the higher end time pieces.

  • @geoffreyjackson8429
    @geoffreyjackson8429 6 років тому

    Well done, Marc! The only explanation of the Jaeger LeCoultre masterpiece I have ever understood. That might be an insight into my intellectually challenged existence, but I prefer to think it is yet another manifestation of your horological talents. (I am the one called X on Amazon... ...thought it was about time I subscribed to your YT channel...) All the best!

  • @daleferguson390
    @daleferguson390 6 років тому +1

    Wow! Fascinating stuff Marc. Absolutely love your videos, I discovered them by chance a week or two ago, and have been binge watching like a box set ever since! Love the way you present the videos in an informative and 'non preachy ' style. The only downside is you're making me want to buy more watches! - and now a clock just got added to the wish list! Keep up the good work.

  • @jacobkrause4305
    @jacobkrause4305 3 роки тому

    This video is very insightful.

  • @shelteredinnyc2714
    @shelteredinnyc2714 2 роки тому

    Fantastic explanation. Thks

  • @moshelevertov2234
    @moshelevertov2234 Рік тому

    Hello Mark, Thank you very much for this good video! I have an Atmos with new good bellow but it stops running after few hours...very frustrating! Is there a way I can manually wind the spring? May I kindly ask you to explain how to do it?
    Thank you!

  • @eliesalloum4569
    @eliesalloum4569 6 років тому

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge of this wonderfull clock.
    Bravo for your new purchase and thank you for sharing your passion.

  • @jeremysmith9696
    @jeremysmith9696 2 роки тому

    this is awesome! thanks Marc.

  • @poozizzle
    @poozizzle 5 років тому

    Incredible explanation. Thanks Mark!

  • @balesjo
    @balesjo 4 роки тому

    I spent an hour or so a week back looking at JLC Atmos clocks online. Beautiful clocks, and extremely interesting from and engineering standpoint. Would love to have one.

  • @lehtosneva9512
    @lehtosneva9512 6 років тому +1

    Excellent video, Mark! I have many times heard about Atmos, but I have never seen how it actually works.

  • @jamessmith6402
    @jamessmith6402 6 років тому +5

    Excellent video very entertaining 👍 thanks Mark 😁

  • @the_poseidon_adventure
    @the_poseidon_adventure 6 років тому

    Fascinating video. I've not spent a lot of time researching clocks but I think this might have sparked a new curiosity for me. Thanks mark for another great video.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  6 років тому

      Thanks, happy to increase curiosity.

  • @stevek8829
    @stevek8829 5 років тому

    I always thought these were driven by changes in atmospheric pressure. Thanks to Mark I now know better. And I sorta want one.

  • @MarcoJesusPerez
    @MarcoJesusPerez 6 років тому

    thanks for the video! I've watched a lot of this series and I can tell you are really excited to talk about this clock. really enjoyed it.

  • @namgnol
    @namgnol 5 років тому +2

    Thanks for the Explanation of how these clocks work, The Beverly Clock, ended up having me come here.

  • @vivianneknobloch2548
    @vivianneknobloch2548 2 роки тому

    So how do you open it up to set the time? My husband who passed away in Oct had all these clocks. I was fixing to put some in boxes & I got this one heavy thing down. Just for no reason I checked this on line. And it is working, but time off. Watched your whole video, as a woman I thought it was boring, but I checked this beautiful clock as you did. Guess I may keep this one...but, open it? Set it? Thank you/vk

  • @pete4180
    @pete4180 4 роки тому

    I'm glad I bought one yesterday. Same decade! Informative video. It would have been great to tell us the clock number, located on the top of the clock. 👍

  • @MrWayneploof
    @MrWayneploof 3 роки тому

    this is one beautiful clock.

  • @MrAstroshot
    @MrAstroshot 6 років тому +1

    Great video Mark! Thank you!

  • @salpanettieri3115
    @salpanettieri3115 2 роки тому

    Hey Mark, loved your video on the Atmos clock. Very informative!!
    My late father received one of these clocks as a retirement gift in NY about 20 years ago. I would now like to transport or ship it to my house in NC. How do I do this safely? How do I stop the pendulum? And what method do you suggest I have it shipped?
    Thanks Sal

  • @paulchancey8905
    @paulchancey8905 Рік тому

    I have a Jaeger atmos clock my father was awarded for 25 years at Union Carbide. My girlfriend decided to move things around and moved it without locking the pendulum, I'm trying to figure out how to open the front glass so I can lock the pendulum before shipping it off for repair. I remember locking it before when I moved so I know where the lever is, its inside the case below the clock face. I remember just opening the front to do it but I can't remember how I opened it. Looks like I would need to remove 4 screws and the top in order to slide the front glass up, but I'm pretty sure thats not how I did it before. I saw a video where you showed a similar clock and you opened the front apparently by touching the bottom left corner of the front glass, perhaps a push inward to unlatch but its very fast and I can't see it too well in the video. If it is unlatched that way its not happening easily. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

  • @subhrangsu
    @subhrangsu 4 роки тому

    Extraordinary! Many thanks for the information!

  • @cashau2965
    @cashau2965 6 років тому

    Mark congrats for your purchase and above all for this amazing vid!!! W&L is an unmissable series.
    so neatly explained so well shot , thanks for sharing this unbelievable beauty....
    sh..t now I want one too....badly

  • @EXNAVYORDIE
    @EXNAVYORDIE 25 днів тому

    Mark, I noticed that your pendulum rotates at about 9 revolutions before it turns in the other direction. I am curious how accurate it is because I have the ATMOS model 540 (1980’s model) which is a bit harder to find and they run at about 16-17 revolutions. Mine runs about 3 seconds a day fast which is within COSC certification. I am curious if your mechanism can run accurately at such a low BPM …….

  • @BURGO1979
    @BURGO1979 6 років тому +2

    Great clock- congratulations.
    Great video too. Thank you!

  • @jamesmoore425
    @jamesmoore425 3 роки тому

    Absolutely the best explanatory video I have ever seen on youtube. My wife just inherited the exact clock in your video and we watched this prior to setting it up. Works great but we notice the hour hand is off in that at exactly at the top of the hour the hour hand does not point directly at the hour symbol. We are going to let it run a few days before we worry about it. Any ideas?

  • @jdillon3035
    @jdillon3035 2 роки тому

    We have one but it doesn't work. It was a retirement gift to my husband's grandmother when she retired from Union Carbide in West Virginia. It's a treasured keepsake but I suspect very few people know how to repair it and the costs could be in the thousands. Any advice? Thank you!

  • @Shako_Lamb
    @Shako_Lamb 4 роки тому +1

    Fascinating! I stumbled upon one of these today, identical to the one in the video, at an antique store. I've been fixing up a traditional anniversary clock, but I had no idea about the Atmos clocks until I saw it on the shelf and was instantly intrigued.

  • @tomhohum4275
    @tomhohum4275 2 роки тому

    Always wanted one of those!!!

  • @jeffreypeterson3664
    @jeffreypeterson3664 3 роки тому

    In 1976 my father was awarded one of these clocks from American Cyanamid Company for his 25 years of service. Now 45 years later I have brought this clock up from the basement and have started cleaning up the outside and looking into seeing if it works. It had a movement guard on top of it ( inside ) and it is locked making me wonder if it ever was activated. Thank you for posting this video and I will attempt to start it up at some point in time in the near future. If I have an Issue .. I will try and locate a watch / timepiece service person in my area. One question .. where would locate it's part / Model number ? Thanks in advance.

  • @wvdavidr
    @wvdavidr 6 років тому

    That is very interesting! I had never heard of this clock. It's beautiful as well!

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  6 років тому

      Thank you. Yes, I guess I didn't say that. It is quite beautiful.

  • @alintudor1052
    @alintudor1052 6 років тому

    Best movie 🎥 for the past few months

  • @abdonabdo
    @abdonabdo 6 років тому

    I like your honesty man. Respect

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  6 років тому

      Thanks; it's the only way to be.

  • @eusupporter8438
    @eusupporter8438 6 років тому

    Interesting, thank you for showing and explaining 👍