This is part 3 of a 5 part series on lever lock picking. We will cover types and terms, lever padlocks, non-curtained mortice lever locks, curtained lever locks and specialised techniques including overlifting, pre-lifting and tryout keys. Here is the FULL playlist :-) ua-cam.com/play/PLXm18pW-yyX7qhybbWL85Y80JeN2K9vhY.html
No, I’m affraid not. You get to see all the important bits through the plastic. I’ll have other vids coming up where I Gut this type of lock though :-)
Would these 2 in one lever tools work if the lock was the other way around. With the bolt at the front and the levers behind? Nobody ever shows it that way around.
Super Chip as ever it depends on the tool and the lock, but they can do. There is no ‘one tool’ out there to work in the myriad of locks out there. A lot of non curtain locks tension from the centre anyway and picking with wires is more versatile
If I get one "Ah -Ha" moment per 15 minute you tube, I am well satisfied with the time spent. I have been getting at least 5 "Ah Ha's" out of each of these three. So, I guess I owe you about 3 hours of watching boring stuff, if you ever produce any. Truly educational work. Thank You for your effort.
Thanks for this vid , made my own 2.5 tension wrench from piano wire and a 1.5mm pick and picked my first 3 lever union lock today using the method on here, picked it clockwise but was initially picking anti clock as the levers are backwards got there in the end , great videos though thanks a lot :)
OK, watched this twice before commenting. I saved the other two so I could view today. Your helping me to understand all the basics of these lock styles. Well explained too, thank you.
Great picking My Friend, i have resenly started picking lever padlocks but the only lock i have a tention wrench for Will not bind non of the levers Will get set
Cool series, thanks. How can you tell which side of the lock the bolt sits without seeing inside the lock? For example if you trying picking from the opposite side the bolt will be closest to you so the tensioner has to be closest to you and the picking wire further away. Hope that makes sense.
usually if the locking bolt is on the right, the talon is at the back, but it does depend on the lock. if you cant see, then either you use a locksmiths' identification guide, experience or just explore with a wire and feel for it :-)
Hello, what would happen if you need to tension the bolt talon but the lock is the other way around? So could you tension at the front of the lock? I've never seen a video mention about this?
It's impossible to make a sort of counter rotation to avoid those false gates ? It seems to be annoying to have to reset the lock each time we end up in a false gate
Lever locks aren't common in the US other than low-security warded 'rim lock' and equivalent mortise lock version found in old houses. The usual attack here is a set of 'skeleton' keys to get past the warding and align the 1 or 2 levers. So I'm finding this series quite interesting and well explained. The tools for these seem to be simpler than our pin tumblers need, but still need to be matched to the 'bitting', and the technique is much like SP picking with security tumblers. More like working the gates on a disc detainer core with false gates. I'm curios whether the usual or most common false gates in these are in the top of the levers which could make 'overlifting' a better method to find a true gate on the first try? I'm sure the best lever locks would have top and bottom false gates both though there could be a pattern to how it's usually done in cheaper locks. About to watch the last of this series where my answers may be. You're on the list for some binge watching and I'm subbed for sure, Thanks from across the pond!
Another great vid. Hey Lewis. Can you can r'mend a good supplier for a catalogue i use when out in the van? I had one and for the life of me i cannot remember the name of the company. I used to use it for giving quotes/estimates etc. Thanks in advance for any help. (UK btw (Scotland))
Key stopped working to our boiler room. Can’t be locked out of it in case of emergency! Studied video. Assembled DIY picking tools and started unpicking…. Gave up, got out the angle grinder with 8” diamond wheel. 10 seconds later I’m in, with minimal damage.
This is part 3 of a 5 part series on lever lock picking. We will cover types and terms, lever padlocks, non-curtained mortice lever locks, curtained lever locks and specialised techniques including overlifting, pre-lifting and tryout keys. Here is the FULL playlist :-) ua-cam.com/play/PLXm18pW-yyX7qhybbWL85Y80JeN2K9vhY.html
Will you perhaps disassemble the see thru lock in a future vid?
No, I’m affraid not. You get to see all the important bits through the plastic. I’ll have other vids coming up where I Gut this type of lock though :-)
Would these 2 in one lever tools work if the lock was the other way around. With the bolt at the front and the levers behind? Nobody ever shows it that way around.
Super Chip as ever it depends on the tool and the lock, but they can do. There is no ‘one tool’ out there to work in the myriad of locks out there. A lot of non curtain locks tension from the centre anyway and picking with wires is more versatile
Lock Noob thanks for the explanation 👍🏻
If I get one "Ah -Ha" moment per 15 minute you tube, I am well satisfied with the time spent.
I have been getting at least 5 "Ah Ha's" out of each of these three. So, I guess I owe you about 3 hours of watching boring stuff, if you ever produce any.
Truly educational work. Thank You for your effort.
Thanks for watching, friend :-)
Hi Locknoob
Thanks for taking the time to do this video.
Learnt a lot again.
Thanks again.
Thank you :-)
Such a great idea for a series and so wonderfully instructive for those of us trying to learn lever lock picking. Thanks much.
Thank you :-)
Great video! Very fun watching you get past the false notch. Tense action!
Thanks :-)
Brilliant!!! Now i know what i need and howto go about picking these locks. Absolutely brilliant tutorials!!
Glad you like them!
Thanks for this vid , made my own 2.5 tension wrench from piano wire and a 1.5mm pick and picked my first 3 lever union lock today using the method on here, picked it clockwise but was initially picking anti clock as the levers are backwards got there in the end , great videos though thanks a lot :)
Thank you 🙏
OK, watched this twice before commenting. I saved the other two so I could view today. Your helping me to understand all the basics of these lock styles. Well explained too, thank you.
Thank you :-)
Thanks - very informative series on lever locks
Love watching to see how things work
Thank you :-)
Doc great as usual we can see you put a lot of work and effort into this series i thank you
Thank you. I put far more effort into this than usual :-)
Very well presented. Great video. Thanks and looking forward for the next one.
Thank you :-)
Very visually nice to watch the manipulation of the parts.
Thank you :-)
Enjoying the series. Thank you.
Thanks :-)
very instructive thank you I will be very attentive to your next videos
Thank you :-)
Another great video 3/5 really interesting thanks👍👍👍
Thank you :-)
Another great episode my friend! Those false gates look really nasty! Thanks for sharing this with us.
Thanks ML :-)
Great picking My Friend, i have resenly started picking lever padlocks but the only lock i have a tention wrench for Will not bind non of the levers Will get set
Try heavier tension? :
@@LockNoob if i try heavier tention i Will problebly bend or break the key
Great video again my friend, very cool tips to pick noncurtain locks, never picked one of these, I will give them a chance, thanks for showing ;o)))
Thanks Tallan :-)
Such a great series!! Just what we needed!!
Thanks :-)
Nice video I’ve learnt a lot from your video Bring on the next one
Thanks :-)
Awesome part 3 my friend very very nice😊😎😊👌👍
Thank you Leon :-)
Cool series, thanks. How can you tell which side of the lock the bolt sits without seeing inside the lock? For example if you trying picking from the opposite side the bolt will be closest to you so the tensioner has to be closest to you and the picking wire further away. Hope that makes sense.
usually if the locking bolt is on the right, the talon is at the back, but it does depend on the lock. if you cant see, then either you use a locksmiths' identification guide, experience or just explore with a wire and feel for it :-)
A ice one buddy 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks :-)
Hello, what would happen if you need to tension the bolt talon but the lock is the other way around? So could you tension at the front of the lock? I've never seen a video mention about this?
It's impossible to make a sort of counter rotation to avoid those false gates ? It seems to be annoying to have to reset the lock each time we end up in a false gate
Unfortunately lever locks can be a little bit of a memory game and can be extremely challenging 👍
Lever locks aren't common in the US other than low-security warded 'rim lock' and equivalent mortise lock version found in old houses. The usual attack here is a set of 'skeleton' keys to get past the warding and align the 1 or 2 levers. So I'm finding this series quite interesting and well explained. The tools for these seem to be simpler than our pin tumblers need, but still need to be matched to the 'bitting', and the technique is much like SP picking with security tumblers. More like working the gates on a disc detainer core with false gates.
I'm curios whether the usual or most common false gates in these are in the top of the levers which could make 'overlifting' a better method to find a true gate on the first try? I'm sure the best lever locks would have top and bottom false gates both though there could be a pattern to how it's usually done in cheaper locks. About to watch the last of this series where my answers may be. You're on the list for some binge watching and I'm subbed for sure, Thanks from across the pond!
Thanks 🙏
Another great vid.
Hey Lewis. Can you can r'mend a good supplier for a catalogue i use when out in the van?
I had one and for the life of me i cannot remember the name of the company. I used to use it for giving quotes/estimates etc.
Thanks in advance for any help.
(UK btw (Scotland))
great job
Thanks :-)
Thank you Lock Noob
Than’s :-)
Very good.
Thanks :-)
Key stopped working to our boiler room. Can’t be locked out of it in case of emergency! Studied video. Assembled DIY picking tools and started unpicking…. Gave up, got out the angle grinder with 8” diamond wheel. 10 seconds later I’m in, with minimal damage.
What to do if the lever we are picking isn't binding 😭 and comes back to same position
Move to the lever tats binding?
meu amigo onde compro essa ferramenta
Over lift picks
Coming in part 5 :-)