smart watches are the embodiment of our throw away society, the fast food of the watch world, the taylor swifts of the music industry, the exact opposite of what most of us enjoy in watches…
@@zoel86 I couldn't agree more. It is a relatively joyless thing to own. Like a phone. We like having one but nobody keeps one for more than a year or two.
@@bobbressi5414 exactly! mechanical, or even quartz watches are some of the few products reminding us of times when craftsmanship, value, timelessness and longevity where the goal.
I have seen several former Smart Watch movers switch to analog style watches as of late, they seem to dislike the planned obsolescence and tethering to their phone.
Absolutely 100% agree. My very small collection of watches (16) has 4 mechanical and 12 quartz. I confess I also have a smart watch (Garmin). Quartz are buy, set and wear with no worries. My late father would be somewhat perturbed at my collection,. I come from a family of watch makers.
Spot on. My only issues with quartz watches is not knowing when the battery will die and movement of the sweep hand. I really like the smooth motion of the second hand in mechanical watches. Digital watches are too industrial . I can measure time better with an analog dial. I do appreciate the history of the quartz watch. Also when you open the back of a quartz watch its as if there's nothing there. The mvt is so tiny. Seiko did make one that when the battery was getting weak, the seconds hand would jump.
I was certainly in the "quartz watches have no soul' camp for a while, but a couple months ago i got a gshock rangeman and havent looked back. I like my watches simple, date and possibly GMT complications. The near bullet proof durability and atomic clock accuracy with multi-band 6 communication and solar charging, it was hard to look away.
I'm so glad you made this video and--for me personally--it came at an interesting time in my own watch collecting. I've always had a few digital quartz watches (casios) as true beaters, but I also have 3 Seiko Turtles, a couple orient divers and a couple seiko 5s--most of which are what I'd wear daily, cycling through. Recently, I picked up Seiko's Prospex Speedtimer with the gold dial (I wanted to be like my old man who still rocks his original Pogue he received as a gift in '76). I love the new speedtimer. It is so sweet and the accuracy and hassle-free solar quartz movement was like a breath of fresh air. I am now in love with solar quartz and I even picked up one of the smaller solar quartz divers from seiko (I mean, it's hella accurate and has a sapphire crystal!). Solar quartz also speaks to a certain sci-fi sensibility that I appreciate. I have read sci-fi books that reference a main character looking at his "chronometer" and I can't help but imagine the populous of imaginary worlds from Asimov or Simmons or Card wearing solar quartz watches. Okay, maybe that last part is a little out there. Thank you for posting about the benefits of quartz in yet another awesome video.
My first proper watch was an SKX007 in 2016, followed by a G Shock Square 5610 (with el light, yesss!) and since then I’ve added over 20 more, mostly auto divers, a Bambino here, a Casioak there… and my square still gets the most wrist time, being my work watch, they’re so amazing! Disappears on the wrist but has all the functionality you could really need, and is always spot on. My 3 fave watches are: MM300 SLA023, SBBN017 and my Square, 2 of which are quartz! 😅
I don't hate quartz watches. I just prefer mechanical watches because I got into antique and vintage American railway chronometer pocket watches prior to modern mechanical wristwatches. I owned cheap quartz watches back in the 1980s when I was in highschool and college. I switched to the antique and vintage American railway chronometer pocket watches as an adult, then took a liking to modern mechanical wristwatches. I admire watches like the G Shock, but I wouldn't wear one as it is too huge and not practical for my fashion taste (I don't need the tool features it offers).
Just bought a Vaer S3 Tradition and can’t wait to get it! Bought it mostly as a backup for my Seiko Dress KX and to use it as an actual outdoor/camping watch. Plus, if anything happens to it it’s cheap easy to have the movement replaced. It’s a “horses for courses” argument honestly.
I've never hated quartz. After having to have my Speedy serviced at the same time at my 1918 Elgin trench watch, I have developed a preference for quartz.
Best take yet! When I first started collecting, I fell victim to the mindset of "If it's not mechanical, then it's not alive", but I have matured over the years. I realize how silly that mindset is. The "living" part of a watch is literally a spring. I have taken my skx007 apart so many times to replace crystals and what not, that it is just another tool that performs a function. It is no more of a living watch than my GWM5610, which technically is alive as well through solar charging. Honestly, I would say that is more alive because it uses the sun just like every other living creature. At the end of the day, wear the watches that you enjoy wearing. They are all, mostly anyways, made for us to use as a time telling tool.
You forgot Reason 11, extremely important: they will always tell time. You can leave it in a drawer for a month, take it out and put on your wrist with an exact time.
I certainly don't hate quartz watches, however, I am in the "quartz has no soul" camp. I do wear several quartz watches... currently an Omega DeVille 2-tone dress watch, a Victorinox Original with the black case and red bezel, and a Citizen Promaster Diver BN0151. I bought the Omega in 1994 and it was my first luxury dress watch. My wife is bored with her Oyster Perpetual and has been wearing the Omega. With the possible exception of a G-Shock, it is doubtful I will ever buy another quartz watch.
I don't have an issue with quartz, but it has to make sense to me. Baume et Mercier Classima (40mm x 6mm) for $1,100? Maybe. Grand Seiko Heritage (37mm x 10.6mm) for $3,800? No. But that's just my opinion.
I love all quartz watches, never dismissed any movement based on internal function. I do appreciate the complexity and understand the serious limitations of mechanicals, and I do own a couple of those.
Solar quartz is cool I own 7 of them. However I hate changing quartz batteries which seem to die at the most inopportune time. That being said, I wrote this wearing my Orient Kamasu with the sweeping second hand; very cool. Finally, I like working with my watches, especially when they need regulated or fixed.
Casio Analog from '89, bought on a market in Thailand, still working. Casio digital, picked up from a street, where cars ran over. Pretty damaged, repaired by myself, working! Just for fun, no fun economically seen.
I just love watches. To me, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Out of 20 watches, 14 are quartz. My oldest watch is my 21st birthday present from 1985. Omega Seamaster dress watch. Quartz & never serviced. 39 years & running on time,all this time Battery around every 3-4 years. Let’s just love watches. Love your work Jory.
Great video, I agree with all your points. I mostly have quartz watches in my collection. I recently bought the citizen promaster land 35th anniversary edition, great solar watch and durable. And I have mudmaster and other g-shocks. I'm not working in the office so I prefer quartz movements.
Number of quartz watches that went EVA outside of a space suit....ZERO. Number of mechanicals....more than 1. You decide which is tougher in extreme environments. Great video!
I’ve worn the same Timex Expedition for years ($39). Next week I get an Apple Watch ($400) because it monitors my blood sugars, my blood pressure and my appointments. As for watches, I use them as timekeepers, not as evidence of my sociopath-economic status.
I am also not a huge advocate for regular watch servicing. I have a bunch of watches that get wound daily just in case I want to wear one. Many have been running consistently for 5 years and still run plus or minus 8 to 12 seconds a day. My luxury watches only get wound every few months. Most modern watch oils have a long life span. Basically, I let the watch tell me when it needs service. If it is super fast or slow or stops entirely, it gets serviced. not until.
My SBBN 031 is one of my favorites. The MecExp is so cool, I can't wait for my Ti version to arrive. There are many comments on various UA-cam reviews erroneously stating that once the battery needs replacing the watch is trash. Just not true. MecExp will take the MS 1001 in and replace the battery or ship the battery to the customer for replacement by a watchmaker. One of the reviewers (I can't remember who) spent time communicating with Jason at MecExp confirming the issue. I was able to still get the $319 early bird price on Kickstarter. As much as I dislike the idiotic quartz watches have no soul BS, I also dislike uninformed comments on UA-cam videos that are just wrong. Great video Jory.
I agree whole heartedly. I have a collection of around 20 and only have 3 non-quartz watches. I even have an Omega Seamaster quartz which I have had for 15 years and never a problem.
I respect quartz and its utility. I don’t dive into quartz and the history of many of the watches with quartz movements BUT, I do have an SBGN003 and I freaking love it
My shoe has no soul and my foot still didn't get wet. Then I remembered that soul and sole are two different things but it didn't matter because I wasn't wearing them anyway.
my daily watch is the Seiko SBTM291 a japanese release.. it's quartz/solar/radio controlled and titanium.. which seems like all the things a watch snob would hate. I love it.. it's light, the second hand hits all the marks all the time. it sets itself overnight, to be perfect. I love it, it's comfortable and it has a soul to me, the soul of extreme accuracy. I do love my Seikos and have several automatic watches, some vintage some newer, but the winder doesn't work well for a seiko, so it's not a grab and go watch like the SBTM291 is. I am going to Japan and am on the hunt for a winding mechanical seiko.
All my watches are quartz. Some have photovoltaic cells under the dial. Some run off disposable cells. A few are thermocompensated quartz, a few listen to the radio, one listens to GPS satellites. Even without sync the listener watches are good to 15 seconds a month. The thermocompensated watches are good to about ten seconds a year. Given the choice between a thermocompensated quartz Tissot and a more-expensive Powermatic 80 version, unless I could sell the latter promptly for a good price, I’d take the quartz. (Yeah, just an ETA PreciDrive quartz movement, but they’re pretty good.) Extremes in temperature will throw off a thermocompensated movement a bit, even though the oscillator in sealed in a tiny vacuum chamber.
I bought the exact watch in the thumbnail and had to return it. The caseback was so uncomfortable it left the pattern imprinted in my skin, the display was so illegible it functioned like an Armitron LED watch, the strap was hard plastic with an almost serrated strap. Mine was $79, maybe there are better versions. I just got a Gulfmaster and love it, much softer band, carries the bulk better, also higher price point.
Love quartz watches as much as my mechanical ditties. Going out in the field where a watch may take a beating, my Citizen eco-drive Ray Mears fits the bill. Just less to go wrong, you know?
my most expensive watch is aan omega speedmaster lcd and it's the coolest watch i own, funny thing is you have to be really into watches to not mistake it for a cheap casio
I don't collect mechanical watches. I have so many quartz watches, imagine if they were all mechanical, the servicing fees would be astronomical, not to mention the hassle.
I’ve had a quartz Aqua Terra for about 18 years. Been everywhere around the world with it. It’s been battered and bashed on just about every substance known to man. Still works fine.
Grand SEIKO Quartz watches are great. But have a look at a more obscure brand out of Glashütte in Germany 🇩🇪 BRUNO SÖHNLE GLASHÜTTE/SA Some of the nicest looking RONDA-based Quartz movements around 😍
If you have a watch that is going to take a beating, you need a quartz watche or if you just like tough watches. I have two Inoxs, I don’t think I’ll ever run over one with a tank but if I do, it’ll probably be OK
Automatic watches cost $$ for service, Tudor Hydronaut, $550 USD, Tudor Date day $700 USD, Tudor Submariner total refurbish $1285 USD. too expensive. Quartz maybe $100 USD every 5 years.
Love all my quartz watches. The only watches that hold zero interest for me are smart watches.
smart watches are the embodiment of our throw away society, the fast food of the watch world, the taylor swifts of the music industry, the exact opposite of what most of us enjoy in watches…
@@zoel86 I couldn't agree more. It is a relatively joyless thing to own. Like a phone. We like having one but nobody keeps one for more than a year or two.
@@bobbressi5414 exactly! mechanical, or even quartz watches are some of the few products reminding us of times when craftsmanship, value, timelessness and longevity where the goal.
Smart man 😎
I have seen several former Smart Watch movers switch to analog style watches as of late, they seem to dislike the planned obsolescence and tethering to their phone.
Absolutely 100% agree. My very small collection of watches (16) has 4 mechanical and 12 quartz. I confess I also have a smart watch (Garmin). Quartz are buy, set and wear with no worries. My late father would be somewhat perturbed at my collection,. I come from a family of watch makers.
Spot on. My only issues with quartz watches is not knowing when the battery will die and movement of the sweep hand. I really like the smooth motion of the second hand in mechanical watches.
Digital watches are too industrial . I can measure time better with an analog dial.
I do appreciate the history of the quartz watch. Also when you open the back of a quartz watch its as if there's nothing there. The mvt is so tiny.
Seiko did make one that when the battery was getting weak, the seconds hand would jump.
Citizen eco drives are very interesting watches. Maybe check them out.
The "Casioaks" or G Shock GA B2100 series, or GBM 2100, might help you out with the battery issue 😂👍🏼🍻
I was certainly in the "quartz watches have no soul' camp for a while, but a couple months ago i got a gshock rangeman and havent looked back. I like my watches simple, date and possibly GMT complications. The near bullet proof durability and atomic clock accuracy with multi-band 6 communication and solar charging, it was hard to look away.
I'm so glad you made this video and--for me personally--it came at an interesting time in my own watch collecting. I've always had a few digital quartz watches (casios) as true beaters, but I also have 3 Seiko Turtles, a couple orient divers and a couple seiko 5s--most of which are what I'd wear daily, cycling through. Recently, I picked up Seiko's Prospex Speedtimer with the gold dial (I wanted to be like my old man who still rocks his original Pogue he received as a gift in '76). I love the new speedtimer. It is so sweet and the accuracy and hassle-free solar quartz movement was like a breath of fresh air. I am now in love with solar quartz and I even picked up one of the smaller solar quartz divers from seiko (I mean, it's hella accurate and has a sapphire crystal!). Solar quartz also speaks to a certain sci-fi sensibility that I appreciate. I have read sci-fi books that reference a main character looking at his "chronometer" and I can't help but imagine the populous of imaginary worlds from Asimov or Simmons or Card wearing solar quartz watches. Okay, maybe that last part is a little out there. Thank you for posting about the benefits of quartz in yet another awesome video.
Love a solar quartz. Have a solar G Shock that ran 2004 - 2004. Also have a Eco Drive I got in 2008; wore in the military and still my beater.
Is your eco drive a diver?
@ yes it’s the BN0000-04H. No longer made but I did own the current Promaster Diver too for a while and it was a great watch too.
My first proper watch was an SKX007 in 2016, followed by a G Shock Square 5610 (with el light, yesss!) and since then I’ve added over 20 more, mostly auto divers, a Bambino here, a Casioak there… and my square still gets the most wrist time, being my work watch, they’re so amazing! Disappears on the wrist but has all the functionality you could really need, and is always spot on. My 3 fave watches are: MM300 SLA023, SBBN017 and my Square, 2 of which are quartz! 😅
I don't hate quartz watches. I just prefer mechanical watches because I got into antique and vintage American railway chronometer pocket watches prior to modern mechanical wristwatches. I owned cheap quartz watches back in the 1980s when I was in highschool and college. I switched to the antique and vintage American railway chronometer pocket watches as an adult, then took a liking to modern mechanical wristwatches. I admire watches like the G Shock, but I wouldn't wear one as it is too huge and not practical for my fashion taste (I don't need the tool features it offers).
Same here, I have a Citizen Promaster NY-004017L. But I have a Casio AE-1000 as well.
In terms of G Shocks you should try a square G Shock
you are wearing it for style tho and because it looks good not because it’s accurate
Just bought a Vaer S3 Tradition and can’t wait to get it! Bought it mostly as a backup for my Seiko Dress KX and to use it as an actual outdoor/camping watch. Plus, if anything happens to it it’s cheap easy to have the movement replaced. It’s a “horses for courses” argument honestly.
I've never hated quartz. After having to have my Speedy serviced at the same time at my 1918 Elgin trench watch, I have developed a preference for quartz.
Best take yet! When I first started collecting, I fell victim to the mindset of "If it's not mechanical, then it's not alive", but I have matured over the years. I realize how silly that mindset is. The "living" part of a watch is literally a spring. I have taken my skx007 apart so many times to replace crystals and what not, that it is just another tool that performs a function. It is no more of a living watch than my GWM5610, which technically is alive as well through solar charging. Honestly, I would say that is more alive because it uses the sun just like every other living creature. At the end of the day, wear the watches that you enjoy wearing. They are all, mostly anyways, made for us to use as a time telling tool.
G-Shocks the last tool watches when it comes to durability, I no longer service my mechanical watches, when they stop, they sit in my box.
Just forwarded this to a friend who looks down at quartz watches.
Bravo! Hardcore, card-carrying quartz fan here.
You forgot Reason 11, extremely important: they will always tell time. You can leave it in a drawer for a month, take it out and put on your wrist with an exact time.
Gshock still rocks
I certainly don't hate quartz watches, however, I am in the "quartz has no soul" camp. I do wear several quartz watches... currently an Omega DeVille 2-tone dress watch, a Victorinox Original with the black case and red bezel, and a Citizen Promaster Diver BN0151. I bought the Omega in 1994 and it was my first luxury dress watch. My wife is bored with her Oyster Perpetual and has been wearing the Omega. With the possible exception of a G-Shock, it is doubtful I will ever buy another quartz watch.
I don't have an issue with quartz, but it has to make sense to me. Baume et Mercier Classima (40mm x 6mm) for $1,100? Maybe. Grand Seiko Heritage (37mm x 10.6mm) for $3,800? No. But that's just my opinion.
I love all quartz watches, never dismissed any movement based on internal function. I do appreciate the complexity and understand the serious limitations of mechanicals, and I do own a couple of those.
Solar quartz is cool I own 7 of them. However I hate changing quartz batteries which seem to die at the most inopportune time. That being said, I wrote this wearing my Orient Kamasu with the sweeping second hand; very cool. Finally, I like working with my watches, especially when they need regulated or fixed.
Casio Analog from '89, bought on a market in Thailand, still working. Casio digital, picked up from a street, where cars ran over. Pretty damaged, repaired by myself, working! Just for fun, no fun economically seen.
I just love watches. To me, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Out of 20 watches, 14 are quartz. My oldest watch is my 21st birthday present from 1985. Omega Seamaster dress watch. Quartz & never serviced. 39 years & running on time,all this time Battery around every 3-4 years. Let’s just love watches.
Love your work Jory.
Great video, I agree with all your points. I mostly have quartz watches in my collection. I recently bought the citizen promaster land 35th anniversary edition, great solar watch and durable. And I have mudmaster and other g-shocks. I'm not working in the office so I prefer quartz movements.
My Dream watch now is a Citizen Titanium Radio Controlled Eco Drive, blue dial. I'm waiting for Christmas to make myself a gift.
They also have a solar radio controlled moon phase watch for $680 😁
Let’s face it that’s pretty good
@@henryperez606 Agreed. Once you go Solar watches there's no going back.
Number of quartz watches that went EVA outside of a space suit....ZERO. Number of mechanicals....more than 1. You decide which is tougher in extreme environments. Great video!
Guys..its a watch. None of them have a soul. They're cool and fun, but its just a watch. Please relax
Well said, sir.
I’ve worn the same Timex Expedition for years ($39). Next week I get an Apple Watch ($400) because it monitors my blood sugars, my blood pressure and my appointments. As for watches, I use them as timekeepers, not as evidence of my sociopath-economic status.
I am also not a huge advocate for regular watch servicing. I have a bunch of watches that get wound daily just in case I want to wear one. Many have been running consistently for 5 years and still run plus or minus 8 to 12 seconds a day. My luxury watches only get wound every few months. Most modern watch oils have a long life span. Basically, I let the watch tell me when it needs service. If it is super fast or slow or stops entirely, it gets serviced. not until.
My SBBN 031 is one of my favorites. The MecExp is so cool, I can't wait for my Ti version to arrive. There are many comments on various UA-cam reviews erroneously stating that once the battery needs replacing the watch is trash. Just not true. MecExp will take the MS 1001 in and replace the battery or ship the battery to the customer for replacement by a watchmaker. One of the reviewers (I can't remember who) spent time communicating with Jason at MecExp confirming the issue. I was able to still get the $319 early bird price on Kickstarter. As much as I dislike the idiotic quartz watches have no soul BS, I also dislike uninformed comments on UA-cam videos that are just wrong. Great video Jory.
I agree whole heartedly. I have a collection of around 20 and only have 3 non-quartz watches. I even have an Omega Seamaster quartz which I have had for 15 years and never a problem.
I respect quartz and its utility. I don’t dive into quartz and the history of many of the watches with quartz movements BUT, I do have an SBGN003 and I freaking love it
My shoe has no soul and my foot still didn't get wet. Then I remembered that soul and sole are two different things but it didn't matter because I wasn't wearing them anyway.
my daily watch is the Seiko SBTM291 a japanese release.. it's quartz/solar/radio controlled and titanium.. which seems like all the things a watch snob would hate. I love it.. it's light, the second hand hits all the marks all the time. it sets itself overnight, to be perfect. I love it, it's comfortable and it has a soul to me, the soul of extreme accuracy. I do love my Seikos and have several automatic watches, some vintage some newer, but the winder doesn't work well for a seiko, so it's not a grab and go watch like the SBTM291 is. I am going to Japan and am on the hunt for a winding mechanical seiko.
All my watches are quartz. Some have photovoltaic cells under the dial. Some run off disposable cells. A few are thermocompensated quartz, a few listen to the radio, one listens to GPS satellites. Even without sync the listener watches are good to 15 seconds a month. The thermocompensated watches are good to about ten seconds a year.
Given the choice between a thermocompensated quartz Tissot and a more-expensive Powermatic 80 version, unless I could sell the latter promptly for a good price, I’d take the quartz. (Yeah, just an ETA PreciDrive quartz movement, but they’re pretty good.)
Extremes in temperature will throw off a thermocompensated movement a bit, even though the oscillator in sealed in a tiny vacuum chamber.
I bought the exact watch in the thumbnail and had to return it. The caseback was so uncomfortable it left the pattern imprinted in my skin, the display was so illegible it functioned like an Armitron LED watch, the strap was hard plastic with an almost serrated strap. Mine was $79, maybe there are better versions. I just got a Gulfmaster and love it, much softer band, carries the bulk better, also higher price point.
Totally agree. Mechanical movements are so needy!
Love quartz watches as much as my mechanical ditties. Going out in the field where a watch may take a beating, my Citizen eco-drive Ray Mears fits the bill. Just less to go wrong, you know?
my most expensive watch is aan omega speedmaster lcd and it's the coolest watch i own, funny thing is you have to be really into watches to not mistake it for a cheap casio
My favorite quartz watch i own is my Seiko 7548 700b Diver from 1984. Servicing requires a new battery and seals.
I don't collect mechanical watches. I have so many quartz watches, imagine if they were all mechanical, the servicing fees would be astronomical, not to mention the hassle.
I’ve had a quartz Aqua Terra for about 18 years. Been everywhere around the world with it. It’s been battered and bashed on just about every substance known to man. Still works fine.
I bought a Junghans form c and really love it.
T3, that soul comment at the end of the video was complete 🔥
I couldn’t agree more…
Grand SEIKO Quartz watches are great.
But have a look at a more obscure brand out of Glashütte in Germany 🇩🇪
BRUNO SÖHNLE GLASHÜTTE/SA
Some of the nicest looking RONDA-based Quartz movements around 😍
MAMACOO！Every time you exhibit one of these watches I become super tempted to get one.
I like the rollie quartz and my omega one as well
If you have a watch that is going to take a beating, you need a quartz watche or if you just like tough watches. I have two Inoxs, I don’t think I’ll ever run over one with a tank but if I do, it’ll probably be OK
Quartz is the more technologically advanced watch & clock movement.
The opposite of love is indifference. I’m indifferent.
The Gshock GD-350 is possibly the best watch ever.
Thank you for saying the truth.
Good one!
I am an idiot. I hate that ticking second hand.
Solar atomic watches are awesome.
Quartz completed mans quest for perfect time keeping.
Indeed only idiots hate them
Automatic watches cost $$ for service, Tudor Hydronaut, $550 USD, Tudor Date day $700 USD, Tudor Submariner total refurbish $1285 USD. too expensive. Quartz maybe $100 USD every 5 years.
Nope, less than 20, if i bring it to a watchmaker for changing battery and gasket, less than 5 when i make it myself.
Don't hate quartz watches at all. I *do* loathe urethane because it irritates my skin.
Science. All depends on how you value and care about your science. Nuf said.
Oysterquartz is very accurate
I’m an idiot, then. Don’t even need to watch this video.
Quartz watches will bring forth SkyNet... ;)
I don't hate quartz watches I just don't like them.
Watch UA-camr are really struggling these days.
How's the love life?
My Moonswatch on a Barton rubber strap has turned into my daily. My Rolex and Omegas are collecting dust at home.