Pete Rose is Still Angry at the Reds
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Nearly 30 years after he was banned from baseball, Cincinnati Reds legend and baseball's all-time hits leader Pete Rose is angry at how his former club uses him to sell tickets.
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Lifetime ban but we'll use his jersey and bobble head to sell tickets. Smells like b.s. - pick a lane MLB.
Money, the MLB picks money
MLB is in the CASH$$$$ lane! Lot of smart guys in the MLB who should cut the sanctimony and let Pete on the field, in the dugout, and in spring training. The man is baseball. Baseball ain't baseball without Pete Rose.
Just because Pete Rose says it doesn't mean it's true. He lied about gambling on baseball games
@@stevegoehring1610 Just because he says what?
@@MrFrinZy anything. The fact that people actually believe anything he has to say at all is unbelievable to me. This man has been caught lying so many times I've lost count.
“Pete Rose is Still Angry at the Reds” and he is still wearing a Reds hat. Legend
Pissed at the league and the Reds office but not the players and coaches.
Title should be Pete Rose still angry at Baseball not the Reds. Him not being allowed the Game & Team is the MLB not the Reds.
Bill Stephens Exactly. If the Reds were allowed to have him in the clubhouse they would trust me
MomanSLM Don't put the Reds office into this. They have NOTHING to do with it! it's all MLB
ThePowerStacks if I'm not mistaken until Manfred became commissioner, the Reds were not even permitted to officially retire his number or induct him into their own Hall of Fame. (They unofficially didn't issue his number 14 except briefly to his son when he had the stint in the majors, but were barred from officially recognizing him in that way.) I think Manfred eased some of those restrictions but stopped short of actually reinstating Rose. Though he did, at the same time as he officially denied Rose's reinstatement request, also suggest that he believes the Hall of Fame is a separate question and implied that he doesn't necessarily agree that the Hall shouldn't be able to at least put him on the ballot. But that's actually a decision over which the Hall of Fame has its own discretion.
Whats more sad is that hes banned from the stadium
dbag0584 what are you dumb
@@samw2431 he admitted to sleeping with girls who he thought were as young as 16 while married and in his 30s. Some of the girls were allegedly as young as 14. When he was confronted about it he said they told him they were 16. He's a gross pig.
vashthestampede11 i have never heard of that
Why is that sad? He broke the one infallible rule of the game. So why shouldn't he be band? He lied, cheated, and gambled. Obviously you tell your kids it is OK to do those things. Rules are for chumps and assholes, son. Just don't get caught. Fuck him. He has never admitted wrong, and is a fucking go-nad.
@@jamesoconnor3562 Yea and how many did drug and roids and still played the game horseshit on infallible rules my ass!
Pete looks like he could go out and bat .300
This guy wants to help young players WTF are the Reds thinking.
Why would u want a 78 year old delusional blow hard in your clubhouse?
He's banned because he constantly lied for decades and now is spiteful. Great player but full of excuses and not an accountable man. Kinda sad
Nightrain76 it’s not the reds decision. The MLB says he can’t go on the field.
Carl Spackler Because at 78, he can still out hit anyone on a major league roster
@@klonidier it's not a lie if you believe it ... 😂
@@tacotom3492 who cares. Everyone lies. Some cheat. Some do both, yet they're still Abe to be coaches in the league. Foh with your crying.
Pete Rose could STILL hit a 2 out bases loaded single (at 78 years old) Hard nosed a player as ever was .
LOL.....Suuuuure he could 😁😁
He will never accept the fact that it is ENTIRELY of his own doing. And reading below, it is obvious that you tell your children it is OK to break the rules. Those other guys? Their fools, fuck them. Just don't get caught, and if you do blame someone else. Rules are for chumps, do what you want to, and screw the rules. He was a great hitter. Great fielder. Played his ass off. And broke the cardinal rule of baseball. And all I read below is he's a whipping boy, he got hosed, everyone does it, he should be in the hall of fame. Is that what you tell your kids? He was the greatest, he belongs in the HOF, fuck the rules.
James O'Connor I bet your one of the one of the people that thinks Bonds should be in the hall though
@James O'Connor my comment was made out of respect for his accomplishments , I guess he was the only one to ever do this , No , he got caught , I suppose you would fess right up if that was you ?? Sure you would . I just love the commentary from all the self proclaimed experts . It’s easy to judge others , I’m sure you know that . His accomplishments stand alone , I suppose Barry Bonds , Mark McGuire , etc are good role models ? Yes , he did in my opinion bet on baseball , but his accomplishments still stand . Were all human .
@@robertsr.249 Well said Brother! Pete may not be the best person ever. But damn the man loves baseball and he is the very deffination of how the game should be played. MLB is a Joke the Reds is a joke of an organization for they way they treat Mr. Rose.
One of the best hitters and all around players in history, now baseball's whipping boy.
Is this the same John Curry that works at Sanderson Farms????
John Curry
He fucking well EARNED his whipping boy status.
Probably is the best hitter. He's up there.
100% self inflicted.
He is the same as Shoeless Joe. He should have been banned from all Cincinnati events. The Reds screwed up by retiring his number in the first place...he was banned for life from baseball.
casually has “HitKing” on his shirt collar
what a legend
more like 'what a douche.'
@@samueliam745 what have you accomplished in your life, i bet your a douche
@@summerwhite4796 you're*
@@sircjgentleman No, your. Because he douches. So, he's referring to his douche.
@@samueliam745 You shouldn’t talk about yourself that way!
Pete Rose IS baseball. MLB is too stupid and stubborn to admit that it needs Pete.
Ken Arthur couldn't have said better myself I grew up 50 miles from the ball park watching Pete play growing up was an absolute thrill no one attacked the game like he did
Craig O I agree He messed up, and he definitely won't get in as long as he's alive its really sad that he's that stubborn and continues to Gamble I grew up watching this guy play and it was a thrill being 50 miles from the stadium watching the Big Red machine are memories I'll never forget he was the leader played the game right. Your exactly right about fundamentals and hitting I hate that baseball has became what it is.i could listen to him talk baseball forever It's sad he could help the game so much. Sounds to me like it's the Reds decision to not let him on the field that surprises me a bit
Charlie Hussle
Baseball is run by a bunch of pansies. Look in the stands and see what liberalism does. People are tired of the powers that be screw up the game.
Needs Pete for what?
I was honored to meet him when he came into Lids to buy a reds hat. He talked to our store employees for more than 30 mins, just shooting the shit.
No one says he isn't a pleasant, voluble little rascal who is sort of an autistic savant about hitting fast-moving baseballs. And living on speed.
But he duck fupped the game and I want it written on his gravestone, along with the main big-time juicers. Phooey.
So you were honored to be around a cheater? Kind of sums up your life huh? Nuff said.
@Dmb596 4 years later, good job mate.
He never cheated. Shows how much you know about the situation lol.
Maybe take the next four years to reflect on your ignorance.
Pete is in the Hall of Fame of my memories.
Combat Medic all he needed to do was admit his gambling incident and he’d be in the HOF
Well said>>>>
What a disgrace. MLB ought to be ashamed at the way they treated this great man.
He BET on baseball games WHILE he was playing, he knew it was wrong but he didn't CARE enough to not do it.....not like he needed the money.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!!
Then he chooses to live in Vegas of all places!!!
Motorcityman Man The time has been done. Let the man into baseball.
He bet on games as a player and manager and had been lying about it for three decades. You realize that right?
Another casting stones!! You make me laugh, GOODY GOODY
@@fmgsr1 If you responded directly to what I said, I'd have more respect for you. Many people don't realize that this wasn't an isolated mistake, thirty years ago. As recently as 2015, a note book was surfaced confirming that Rose bet as a player -- a claim which he'd lied, and continues to lie about, to this day.
In addition, it's not as if he made a single bet. He made ongoing bets for years.
Put the Hall of Fame vote to the people to see how they feel about Rose. He'd be in the Hall of Fame tomorrow if it was up to the fans
He signed a contract to not bet on games. He screwed himself.
Why is this man ostracized when he has admitted his wrong doing? Bonds, Sosa,McGuire all allowed to be around MLB!!!! They actually cheated smdh. Keep him from managing a club fine but allow the man who is probably the greatest hitter in history of baseball to be a part of the league..
PROBABLY the greatest hitter? IS the greatest hitter.
Bonds, Sosa, McGuire are smart enough to keep their damn mouths shut and not do stupid stuff in retirement. Pete just keeps "poking the bear" (MLB) with his whining and gambling. And when it came out that he had been having sex with a 14-year-old girl, he pretty much guaranteed that he will not get into the Hall Of Fame until he has been dead for many years...if, ever. Pete brought all of this on himself.
@@SomeJustice19k well some people would disagree with us, so never speak in absolutes.
@@timheidel5849 I agree he has brought stuff on himself. But it has nothing to do with his career!!!! If you and or they want to say he isnt in because of off field stuff then they need to take out half or more of Cooperstown because alot of those guys did crap that would far exceed anything Pete did... it's the baseball hall of fame, not the hall of nice guys!!!! Have to seperate douche thi gs from great play. I'm not even a reds fan just a baseball fan.
@@zachmitchell7696 4,000 hits with a dad bod, no roids, no modern training techniques and no modern medicine. What he did is incredible. Only other batter that I'd say MIGHT be better is Ichiro.
Reds been needing this man's energy in that dugout for the past 4 decades. Pete is an all universe player if there ever was one
Winningest player in history
Pete deserves to be in the Hall but the Hall doesn't deserve to have Pete. He is so much better than the narrow minded people that run the Hall of fame.
Listen to him. 78 years old, and talks about his stats.
John Bandera he sounds amazing for his age
Damn right
He’s delusional about his baseball crime‼️
The story about what the Babe's daughter said to him is great.
Sat down with Pete one on one for about 1/2 last year and just talked baseball. The guy is so honest and down to earth... an old school gentleman.
Hey.....wheres that pic taken of the boat on the water in your profile??
@@motorcitymanman7711 Caribbean off of St Kitts.
@@RecoveringGenius
Thanks.....the wife and I are thinking of doing the Carribean for the first time....whats the best "Bang for the Buck" area?
We dont have a lot of dough.
One person whose been there a lot told me Aruba or Trinidad/Tobago.
What say you?
@@motorcitymanman7711 wow.. great question... where are you flying from?
Every island has spots that look like a screen saver... maybe start with the keys first... then, your first couple nights at a decent resort in Jamaica and then check out and go on an adventure and figure out where to stay based on how the day goes and where you end up. Erroll Flynn and Ian Fleming loved Jamaica.
4,256 hits ..... that’s 203 hits a year for 21 years ... took him 24 ... they way players go on IL list nowadays and swing for the long ball, this record might stand for a century
*will
Pete understands about the hall of fame but not getting to coach up the players sucks. That is what a lot of these all time greats care about the most. I dont see the harm in that.
He will never accept the fact that it is ENTIRELY of his own doing. And reading below, it is obvious that you tell your children it is OK to break the rules. Those other guys? Their fools, fuck them. Just don't get caught, and if you do blame someone else. Rules are for chumps, do what you want to, and screw the rules. He was a great hitter. Great fielder. Played his ass off. And broke the cardinal rule of baseball. And all I read below is he's a whipping boy, he got hosed, everyone does it, he should be in the hall of fame. Is that what you tell your kids? He was the greatest, he belongs in the HOF, fuck the rules.
Ex- Men - Um, yes it does. He's banned from baseball and MLB rules stipulate he can't be involved with any team, whether that's instructing minor leaguers or going into the club house. It's actually a pretty simple concept.
His story about being nervous meeting the 77 year old daughter of Babe Ruth is priceless. Pete is a freaking riot.
He's upset with MLB, not the Reds. He knows the Reds would do what they can for Pete if allowed by MLB.
I agree with Pete. He could help young players so much if they allowed him on the field.
Doing what? Teaching them how to bet on the games? Showing them that rules don't apply to him, even though he knew the rules? Not hardly. Pete the prick is getting exactly what he asked for, and in my opinion, a whole lot more to deflate that huge ego that thinks he's better than anyone else. Bench said it right. Break the rules and pay the price. Tough luck, Gambling Pete. You seem to have cut your own throat.....
BS. There are plenty of other good hitters/coaches/mentors that do not have Rose's SELF-INDUCED baggage. This guy is out because he knowingly and repeatedly broke the rules and lied about it, even right to Commissioner Giamatti. Had Rose come clean to Giamatti, I'd have gone with it. But Rose didn't, and didn't for a LONG time after those meetings.
I have no more time or patience for Rose than for the juicers who came after him and ruined the record books.
@@michaelmcgovern8110Perfectly said! I totally agree!
99.9% of people don’t agree with you and me.
@@bobjones8321 Put on a Peace sign, link arms with me, and we'll talk about hitting, especially beHIND the runner deep in the count with two outs. Pitching discussions let slide til after Spring Training, says I.
Or, if you've got nothing else to do, go read the 40% of Ted William's book "The Science of Hitting" that is about specific technique (and less about example players swings).
Batter UP!
@@bobjones8321
Then put on a peace-sign tshirt, link arms with me, and we'll talk about hitting, especially beHIND the runner deep in the count with two outs.
Forget pitching discussion til after Spring Training.
If you've got nothing else to do, read the 40% of Ted William's "The Science of Hitting" that is specific to technique (feet, stride, hands, pitch selection, game situation, all of it) and not just player examples.
TL;DR: Williams says: Hit their mistakes. You must be able to hit or foul off every pitch anywhere in the three-dimensional box that is your strike zone. Know what the pitcher can do. "I would practice until my hands had blisters, then I would practice until the blisters bled." That last one IS a close-enough quotation and I'm not going to go look it up. ;-].
As usual, Pete Rose is a legend it speaks nothing but the truth when it comes to baseball. You got to love this guy
Pete is the most knowledgeable ex player about the game of baseball. Met him in Vegas and he's awesome to chat with just like he states here.
>>is the most knowledgeable ex player
Phooey.
Jerry Remy, alive and working in Baseball(TM) during the same period. ANY day of the week and TWICE for the Sunday double-header. Not just because I'm from Boston: there are very good reasons he worked FOR DECADES doing TV baseball "game commentary" (as in useful game and specific player details, not stupid Bovine Sewage).
H E double toothpicks, I'd even almost take having to put up with Howard Cosell again if it meant I didn't have to listen to that speedfreak degenerate gambling serial liar. Remember: Giamatti tried to "let him up gently": turns out That Man had LIED to The Commish and was STILL LYING AFTERWARDS.
Redemption requires true acceptance, about which as regards the specific reprobate in question I end
as I started: phooey.
Go RemDawg Go.
What he is awesome at is cheating.
I could listen to this guy everyday. More interesting than listening to those stations on TV and radio.
The title of this video is deceiving. Rose is banned by MLB from going into ANY major league clubhouse. He’s not holding a grudge against the Reds.
The title of this video's a total lie.
Pete Rose looks great!
NO GAMBLING has been posted in every dugout since 1919. He knew that it was against the rules to place bets on the outcome of games. He is 100% responsible for for not being in the HOF.
SHERLYNN JUNIOR he literally accepted that in this video... he said he was pissed off by the reds
Yeah but it’s not like he bet against the reds and told his team to lose like why that rule exists, he bet for his team to win, which is still bad but imo nowhere near taking roids or something
@@echozero8213 Don't ever try to minimize the corrupting effect of Rose's gambling. www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/08/why-pete-rose-still-cant-be-absolved/378866/
Help some young kid someplace else Pete.
You could have coached high school ball. You can go help high school kids out.
Does he...HELL NO. He wont get paid for it.
Arrogance.
Pete is 1000% all about Pete.
So busy gambling he doesnt have time to help high schoolers learn the game.
Jordan gambled also probably why they were so focused every game
the hit king speaks the truth
*out king
He's a lying arrogant prick.
You should not have betrayed the Reds and Cincinnati
THE HIT KING!!
AND ALWAYS WILL BE!! GO REDS!!
A-Rod juices up, yankees can’t void his deal
Pete Rose bets on his team winning and has a lifetime ban.... could probably still bat better than half the DHs
Alejandro Robles I like how there was only accusations and yet nothing has came from it and it’s 2019 gtfoh
a rod is a joke
Rose also didn’t bet on the Reds to win when Mario Soto was pitching. That gives bookies inside info and how do you know he wasn’t making decisions in the games he bet on the a reds to win just so he could win that bet that day? You’re obviously slow mentally but you need to know something
Pete is his own worst enemy. He has the worst case of diarrhea of the mouth I can think of. Baseball legend, but the buck stops there.
Agreed. Off field dont matter when it comes to HOF unless hes a murderer or rapist. Best hitter of all time, brought so much to the sport. If he was more humble it would go so far
Hes just not a bitch virtue signaller like modern athletes
More humble??!! What's he saying that's wrong. He only speaks facts.
@@fernandozepeda2617 its not what you say its how you say it
@@fernandozepeda2617
He denied gambling on baseball for decades when caught.
Pete Rose is the way! His baseball records speak for themselves" Rose is the HOF and he is hardball for life! Baseball's great Hit King👑
@Michael Heathman ...Aren't we all...Everyone has dirty laundry to wash. That is why Jesus came to this Earth to save and forgive and only God can judge. Jesus is without blemish but we all have stains.
@Michael Heathman ...Some people play cards and dominoes and they take it real serious...as serious as cancer. Do you think it is just a card game...they have more than poker faces on.
@Michael Heathman If you were listening to the video. It is Pete Rose way" A street they named after him not anyrhing to do with his way or the highway or anything to do with Jesus is the way. It is simply a place. And as for Las Vegas it is a good place regardless what goes on there. Las Vegas is just like any other place in America. You will find hustlers and city slickers everywhere in any city. And yes Jesus is the way, the truth and the life but that is another subject and it is sinners who he came to save and forgive or did he come to save only the righteous. Pete Rose has been serving his life ban and he has been an example to others and others have learned from Pete Rose....He clearly admits his wrongs and gives his advice to others. Don't do it!
@Michael Heathman
He saId Rose "IS" the HOF.......not "Rose is IN the HOF.
Pete Rose uses HIS team to gamble, gets caught, still on "lifetime ban". Thinks MLB should lift ban, because he's a "all-time" best hitter. Angry because he thinks Cincy is using his name to sell tickets.
Get over yourself, Pete! You "illegally" bet on a sport you were playing in, and got caught. IT'S YOUR FAULT! WHAT DO YOU THINK A "LIFETIME BAN" MEANS? You might be an awesome player, but YOU GOT CAUGHT!! You learned your lesson. MOVE ON!!
Put Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame!
NO GAMBLING has been posted in every dugout since 1919. He knew that it was against the rules to place bets on the outcome of games. He is 100% responsible for for not being in the HOF.
SHERLYNN JUNIOR but he never bet on his team to lose, only to win, and at this point in time the punishment does not equal the crime. If it ever came out that he did bet on his team to lose, then that would be a total different story and nobody would ever give two shits about Pete Rose because he would be a piece of shit. But he’s a good guy and we all make mistakes.
@@andypagano You don't know that. But even if he did only bet Reds to win, did he use a closer for 6 outs instead of 3 to save a win, then lose him for two more days? Did he "rest" players for a couple of days to load up for later games?
SHERLYNN JUNIOR You're right about that, he did agree to a lifetime ban, to be honest!!!!
I think yeah, Rose blew it and the Hall of Fame will come around after he is gone. Don't worry Pete, you'll make it. What pisses me off is the hypocrites in baseball who own teams, fix games so attendance will stay up, then crucify a guy like Rose in Cincinnati for what he did. Reds should get over themselves and appreciate what Rose did for that franchise.
MLB trotted him out during the 2015 All-Star Game as one of the four greatest Reds of all time. If he's banned from baseball, then ban him from *everything* baseball. Mark McGwire was subpoenaed to testify in 2005, but didn't admit to using steroids until 2010. McGwire's working in baseball. Rose initially denied gambling in 1989, but, in 2004, he admitted to gambling only during his time as a manager. Just like he said, the stadium is on a *street named after him* and he's not welcome there. I can respect his position regarding the Hall of Fame, even though I don't agree with it.
I would have never considered myself a Pete Rose fan, but, while he was a player, I respected the hell out of his competitiveness and his accomplishments during a time when players weren't getting the mega-million-dollar contracts players get today. Cobb retired in 1928 after playing 23 seasons. Rose broke Cobb's record in 1985--the record stood for 57 years--and he did it in his 22nd season, one year sooner. One of the many reasons I'm no longer a baseball fan today...
Rose may have broken the record in one less season (although your numbers are off as Cobb played 24 seasons and Rose broke the record in his 23rd season), but Rose broke the record in his 3,476th career game and his 15,550th career plate appearance (if going by the official MLB record; if going by the record everyone but MLB goes by you can knock 2 games and 9 plate appearances off that total). Cobb played in just 3,034 career games and had just 13,099 career plate appearances, so Rose did not accomplish the feat sooner than Cobb.
I agree: MLB did Pete a favor when they shouldn't have. They should have kept him banned from the All Star game.
I didn't know the Hall of Fame had Pete Rose artifacts. Now that makes no sense at all. So he's banned but his stuff isn't. Craziness!
It sure is.
The Hall of Fame is a load of crap anyway. It's a group stroke-fest of ass-clowns who play buddy-buddy games. It hasn't been a REAL 'hall of fame' for the sport for 30 years.
They can't recognize one of the best players to ever play the game?
Doesn't sound like a hall of fame to me.
This banning thing is ridiculous. I get it, he gambled and knew it was wrong. Don't let him manage or coach, but to not even be in a broadcast booth? Unbelievable. The dude is 80, he had/has a sickness but he has so much to offer. This is coming from a 47 year old Astros fan. Pete Rose IS baseball! The steroid era did more damage to the game than Pete ever did.
The steroid era wasnt even that bad. The baseball was great and exciting. The best hitters vs some of the best pitchers ever.
@@tokeypokey I agree the steroid era was exciting, but damaged the integrity of the game more than Pete Rose.
@Scot Ashley Sexton from what I’ve seen , the only time MLB will let him around is when there is money to be made for MLB , like some of the ceremonies in Cincinnati .
Pete's a jerk. He needs to get over himself. Also, he's right about all the Pete Rose stuff so to be fair maybe they should rename stuff and forget about him. He isn't baseball's best ambassador, not with his attitude. Besides those of us in the modern era don't need him
Now I think the cheaters are far worse and the druggies. For sure Pete should be treated better than those guys!
So Pete Rose can't work even in a minor league club, but McGuire can coach? Get the F out of here. Pete never cheated at baseball.
@Penguin1290 well said !
Baseball is in the gambling business now! It’s been 30 yrs and Pete admitted he was wrong many times. Time to put him in
No way, he lied for waaaay too long. He doesn't deserve to be in, he broke the golden rule of baseball. Even after he admitted he bet on baseball he kept on lying about betting on his own team. Let him in after he dies
Yeah, he admitted to it after lying about it for 15 years and did so just so he could sell his book. Time to continue keeping him out for thinking he was bigger than the game.
Exactly they want bonds in the hall of fame, even tho he cheated and did worse things then rose did
#LetPeteIn
over the top disrespect, but that's ok the REAL FANS of the RED'S know who he is.
Pete you're a legend to everyone that appreciates baseball hitting, there's nobody I'd rather have on the plate w bases loaded
These days people want to label you with shame and never forgive. It's sad.
Pete Rose will NEVER get into the Hall of Fame as long as Bud Selig is alive. If you know the history you will understand.
Cobb is in the HOF.Not a bunch of alter boys is right.lol! Pete you made me play harder,and love the game more.Thank you!!You are the G.O.A.T as far as all around ball player.
Look, another person that knows nothing of what they talk about. You do know that Cobb was not the hateful racist like the rumors state right? Every story of him being an outward racist and all-around asshole have been completely debunked as they were written by an author that has absolutely zero credibility and was fired from all of his journalism jobs for continually writing inaccurate stories. In fact, Cobb came from a long line of abolitionists in the south and welcomed the integration of baseball. Cobb wasn't a perfect person, but he was nowhere near as bad as the false narratives flying around say he is. Also, Rose was nowhere near the GOAT. Get out of here with your bullshit.
Betting on the Super Bowl isn't the same as betting on games that you have the ability to influence because you are PLAYING IN THEM. He never understood that.
I'm sick of Pete Rose and his attitude. He bet on baseball. He accepted the lifetime ban. Live with it. I grew up a Red's fan and still am a Red's Fan. I have Pete's autograph. I'm a fan of his. He still admits to betting on baseball today. He can't change. He won't change. Grow up already.
I used to think that way. Now I see why he's upset and it makes perfect sense.
I feel for him. But... damit he knew. And further, It really is a shame that there isn’t a little more forgiveness in this world.
Pete is not the brightest, but he is damn funny! He should be allowed where ever he wants at GABP.
I'm not so sure. I believe he's sneaky bright............
@@frankiesparks2868 💯
Cincinnati native here life long Reds fan...only 37, but anyone around here gets it.
Keep in mind, these are MLB politics. As you mentioned, the Reds retired and inducted you to our HoF. Cincy still loves you. I truly think the reason why you aren't allowed in the box or clubhouse are most likely from higher than the Reds.
Still remember chaperoning daughter's field trip to GABP. They have one single pink rose in the lication of that rose bed for the spot your record breaking hit landed. And one ball to represent each of your hits. It sucks, I know!
But trust me, Cincy loves you and will never be able to forget you and your mates!
BTW, My great-grandmother managed to get to as many games as possible. I have very old autographs from Perez, Morgan, Griffey (Sr.) , and Foster. One more I can't think of for the life of me...initials Dl?
Still...I WANT ROSE AND BENCH!
I was C. Rolled with #8 for Yogi...sry Johnny!
Just throwing it out there if anyone is listening. Still in the tri-state area!
Trust me, none of you are forgotten! On field accomplishments are HoF criteria; not off-field decisions. ❤
Hard to be sympathetic for a great player who bet on his team to lose...and then lied about it for 20 yrs...
@ Robbie I would like to know how everybody knows which way he threw his bets ? Pete would never bet to lose , do I think he bet on baseball , yes ,do I think he bet on the reds ,yes , do I think he bet on them to lose , where he could influence the outcome , NO !
The newspapers here had the entire expose with alleged names of bookies , fixers , etc , I think John Dowd filled in the blanks with the answers he was told to use , I live in cincy and read and watched all this bullshit transpire and anyone with a single brain cell could tell not all , but some of this was fabricated , Regards Robert
@@robertsr.249 hi..I think it is a given that he did bet on the reds to lose at times..remember rose accepted banishment from baseball so the Dowd report would not be released...think about it...he of course backed out of his deal and lied for 20 yrs after....
@@robbie192 It's the equivalent of opting out of taking the breathalyzer test when a cop pulls you over, and taking the voluntary suspension of license, cuz you know you're gonna be caught.
@@giantsfan7733 well, I may disagree..Pete got the Dowd report secret..baseball never released it to the public..he kept his image and many still say he never bet on his team or his team to lose.
@Robbie I still think John Dowd put down what he was directed to , Have you ever heard of fabricated evidence , The bigger the pile , the worst it smells , bet ,yes , bet on the reds ? Yes , bet on them to lose ,? Where he could influence it ? No ! He was told to shut up about it for future consideration , As an added note I graduated from the same high school as Pete
Need to start a petition for PETE ROSE to be put in HALL OF FAME. Pro baseball is not holier than thou!
love pete rose. MLB needs to get this man some clearance.
The players today hit about .205... motherfuckers NEED Pete Rose to teach them how to hit.
He still bets on sports. one of the requirements to be reinstated is to stop gambling on sports. he never did. he's addicted to gambling and still in denial
Problem a lot of you don't seem to understand is that even without direct evidence of gambling on the reds to lose(he agreed to a ban for the report not being released bear in mind) is that he clearly was a problem chronic loser gambler and a lot of people in these situations financially bury themselves and have their character compromised.
I love rose the player and in a normal situation it seems like he wouldn't do such a thing, but he also comes off as a snake willing to say what he thinks people want to hear.
It is RIDICULOUS that Pete Rose is used for the Reds to sell tickets but yet he cannot even help out in the batting cage or in the broadcast booth. Come on. He was an amazing player and deserves recognition and he deserves so much more. There are much more terrible things done by many others in sports yet they have far less repercussions.
What is worse in Sports than throwing games? It doesn't matter how great he was as a player if he as manager threw games.
I don't believe that a competitor like Pete Rose threw ball games for money.
It's not as if he was strapped for cash.
He played the game to win, and he managed the game to win.
What planet are you living on? Did you ever see the man play?
He even ran to first base even after being walked.
We're not talking about the Black Sox, who were persuaded to throw the World Series because they weren't making any money.
There is no evidence that he ever bet against his team, so stop with the accusations.
Bobby Bobby google is your friend. Plenty of evidence he bet on his team WHILE playing.
@@joesmallwood9253 He bet on them to win.
@@joesmallwood9253 Yeah, bet ON his team, not against them.
HUGE Difference there. Maybe not to the league, but to his credit anyway.
When you bet against your team, you are a traitor who will give a lackluster effort in the game, and when you're the player manager as he was, you also have the opportunity to control the outcome substantially by mismanaging your team.
Neither of which this guy ever did.
Obviously some of the comments are from people not familiar with his play and didn't see him throughout his career.
I'm not saying he didn't bet on baseball, but no way in hell did he ever bet against himself or his team and try to throw a game.
That wouldn't at all be consistent with the guy who played the game for over 20 years and never gave less than everything he had.
Pete, rule#1: “don’t bet on baseball, and....DONT bet on your own team”. Not Pete Rose rules, BASEBALL rules. Broke em both.
Pete Rose is the Man.
Pete diving head first into third at the end of T.W.I.B with the music playing.
Epitomizes the game, doesn't it!
That’s what happens when you carry a bad reputation everywhere you go! Poor Pete Rose is permanently Banned from His Hometown of Cincinnati. SUCKS!
Take away the Gambling, Pete Rose would’ve been treated like The Ambassador he truly is to Baseball! Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle associated themselves with Gambling after Their Careers, yet no one talks about that.
Pete Rose is Baseball’s Whipping Boy!
there's mountains of knowledge in that head that he could pass on to younger players
Pete’s massive ego has been in his way for decades…Johnny Bench lays it all down. Johnny Bench.
At least he didn't use roids.
Roids help the game but hurt the athlete. Gambling RUINS sports.
Pete autographed a baseball for me in 1970 when I was 10 years old. You better believe I still have it! He belongs in the Hall.
The thing I've never gotten over with Pete Rose is him looking into the camera multiple times and professing his innocence: I did not gamble on baseball! Then after so long and so much evidence, he admits it. I have issues with liars like that. If he'd admitted and took ownership of his actions then, like he does now, I'd have no problems with him.
Not only that but I think his two biggest strikes were not just betting on baseball, but betting on his own team (he claims he always bet on them to win, seems shady, no way to verify), and he agreed to a lifetime ban. That is like the criminal that accepts a plea deal complaining about it after the fact. I respect what he did as a player, and I've seen him talk, he is a funny guy, but as a person he seems to have major flaws.
Total BS. Yez he gambled, was he wrong to do that yes. Have you ever made a poor choice in life? Show me a human being who HASENT and I'll jump tl the moon for you. Unless those mistakes hurt someone else or someone else's property then why are you making a big deal outnof him gambling. As much as he loves baseball, loves his team and players and fans. Do you really think he would bet against his team and mess up a game on purpose over some money? He was already rich.. he made a mistake. He deserves to be in the hall of fame while he is living. You got roid heads and cheaters in there but Pete gambled so he is shunned? Get real. Do you know how much food it woukd do fkr the game and how much excitement and media stir it would bring if Pete was allowed to manage a major league team? Ppl need to get off their high horse and stop condemning the man. Over GAMBLING. This is so stupid it's unreal he's paid the price and it sets a precedent already to anyone thinking about doing that again.. right is right and wrong is wrong. Opinions though are like ass holes. . How does anyone love baseball and not support rose for the hall of fame? Even if you disliked the man's lifestyle and all his whoring around when married and everything else. That's between him and God and has nothing to do with his baseball accomplishments and by the way all those records. He didn't need ROIDS. For like the cheaters do
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Gamblers usually owe money to really nasty people. Rose gambled big money. When he was in a nasty hole, I'm sure Rose figured betting on his own team (an outcome he could easily manipulate, especially as coach) was a great way to make sure he didn't get his legs broken. Rose broke baseball's most sacred rule: No Gambling. Bye, Pete.
@robertgates5164..How many lies have you told in your lifetime ? Do you still cheat on your wife ?
@@robertlosasso4222 It is the constant lying that hurt Rose. First he lied about gambling at all. Then admitted gambling on baseball but not the Reds. Then bet on them to win as a manager. He is an addict and no way to know how long he was gambling on baseball. Add in the fact he had questionable associates. People associated with organized crime. Baseball did not want to have another situation where baseball was in control of organized crime or the mob. The mob at this point was still around. Throw in fact that he cannot remember if girl he slept with was legal age. Even tho imo 16 is still too young. Throw in fact every deal he has had to potentially get in he has scuttled. One of which would have kept him out of prison, got his gambling debts forgiven, and eventually let him in. The man multiple times had 6 figure gambling debt. Now I do hold MLB to some extent just as culpable. They knew he was a heavy gambler even as far back as when he came in to MLB
Rose belongs in the Hall. Cincinnati fans love Pete the player.
We love you Pete - Cincinnati resident
If he'd committed murder he would have been paroled by now.
Pete Rose is an excellent ambassador for the sport. He was phenomenal as a commentator and he is the best player of all time. MLB should embrace him.
The best player of all time ? Lol
I'm with you Pete forever!! Been a Reds Fan all my life and Pete Rose fan also!! Love You Man!!
I wonder if Pete ever bet over/unders in baseball? Especially I'm wondering about overs. Leave a pitcher in the game too long.
Pete lost big money to gamblers. Gamblers will sell their children to keep going. Did he over-use a closer? Did he rest a closer a few games to load up for a game he thought he could win? Who knows what he did to his lineup as a direct result of gambling.
Also, I don't think most of the public knows about betting the run lines. One last thing, most ball clubs have a defensive specialist. A guy who comes into a game in the later innings. I'm sure Pete didn't use those guys if he had a chance to win a bet.
Ridiculous one of the greatest hitters of all time and the Reds don't even want him there
uh..... the greatest hitter of all time. He's got the number to prove it.
The fans know Pete is a hall of famer that is more important than what baseball thinks.
I've got a lot of Respect for this Man. If my Son was playing ball,can't think of anyone I'd rather have teaching him than MR. Pete Rose. Could sit and listen to him all day talk BASEBALL !!!
We love you Pete. You always have our support
He may have your support, but he certainly does not belong in the Hall of Fame. He broke the cardinal rule of baseball. Just ask Johnny Bench. Enough said.
this guy belongs in the hall of fame.
24 years over 300. Enough said.
Incorrect watch the video again buddy
My bad, 23 years played.303 average career. I stand corrected.
Pete is the best!
This is an example of how crazy this world is... Pete Rose has always been great for baseball. His attitude as "Charlie Hustle" is unparalleled to this day. Murderers and cheaters are there but not Pete.. BTW , if he never bet against his team, then there wasn't much conflict of interest.
Don't EVER try to justify what Rose did. www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/08/why-pete-rose-still-cant-be-absolved/378866/
Pete is great to listen to. His rants are very much on target.
They will put him in the HOF the day after he passes away. Sad-
Maybe 100 year after everyone who was alive in 1986 dies
It's going to be a while. Maybe 50 years, but one day he and Joe Jackson will get in.
Sounds like baseball is using the Government's way of doing things. Wait until everyone dies that cares before you reveal anything such as who killed JFK.
No, they really won't
Such a great player.
Would not won game7. against RedSox wout Petes baserunning skills deep in game!
I understand why Pete is upset, but under the terms of his ban, he's not allowed onto the field of play, or in the clubhouse. That's why the Reds have never had him do such things. He's allowed to attend "special events," but taking an active role with an MLB club just simply isn't something he is allowed to do.
For the record, I'm a Pete Rose fan.
am i the only one that can listen to him talk about baseball all day ?
Well, if he's going to have a pity party about how the Reds treat him he should share all the facts. The Reds have treated him very well. He's in their HOF, they've recognized him in every way they can on the field. His major league ban PREVENTS him from participating in formal activities with the team, such as batting practice or coaching, and the Reds have nothing to do with that. He brought this upon himself as he said, he just needs to tell the complete story. Calling the Reds out for mistreating his is just BS.
greatest hustler on the field ever love Pete rose
They use him to make money, but they won’t allow him in the stadium or on the field at spring training. Hypocrites. I bet they still allow those guys that were taking steroids or performance enhancers.
Rose should be in the Hall and so should Shoeless Joe. Especially Shoeless Joe. The man was banned for life. Well he served his sentence the man is dead.'
One thing Pete didn't clarify....is it THE REDS who won't allow him on the field or in the clubhouse...or MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL? I'm guessing it's MLB, and that being the case, Pete's anger is misguided. He has no right to be upset with the Reds when they report to MLB and are responsible to MLB for what they do. If MLB won't allow Pete, the Reds can't go against MLB, and Pete knows that.
It's not the Reds that wont allow him in the clubhouse, it's MLB.
Ok, I've been seeing a lot of nonsense and bullshit spouted in these comments, so let's get some things out of the way so you guys don't sound so ridiculous:
1. The Reds are not the bad guys in this story. I'm sure they would love to have Rose around the team more whether it's in the broadcast booth or in the minors or helping out during Spring Training, but per MLB rules, they cannot. Rose was placed on MLB's permanently ineligible list, and someone on that list cannot work with any team in any capacity. Period. I'm sure that sucks for him and the team, but Rose only has himself to blame for this.
2. For those bringing up the steroid users or those that beat their wives, you're comparing apples to oranges. Using steroids and spousal abuse does not carry a lifetime ban as punishment as laid out by the CBA (at least not for a first offense), while gambling on the game while employed by an MLB team or the MLB office itself has had that punishment for almost 100 years. The steroid guys and those that beat their wives cannot legally be kept from working in baseball without MLB putting them on the ineligible list, so while teams can decide not to employ those people, they cannot be barred from employing them like with Rose. Plus, Rose still gambles on the game to this day and is unrepentant about his gambling, so no sane person would ever take him off that list while he's alive.
3. For those saying "he never bet as a player, so the Hall should let him in as a player", well he did gamble as a player. John Dowd, the lawyer that investigated the gambling charges against Rose in the late 80s, found ample evidence that Rose gambled on games during the 1985 and 1986 season, which he was a player-manager at the time (he broke the hit record in 1985). Plus, in 1991, the HOF voted to implement a rule in it's bylaws that states anyone on the permanently ineligible list cannot be voted into the HOF (they had an unofficial rule prior to that but made it official in 1991). So even if he did just gamble while as a manager, he still would have made it on that list and not been able to be voted in.
4. Another common statement is "he never bet on his team to lose, so he didn't actually cheat". Well we only have his word that he never bet against his team and his word is about as trustworthy as an alcoholic stating that he/she will have just one drink. Dowd didn't find any evidence he bet against the Reds, but he believed that Rose did bet against the Reds. However, when Rose accepted his lifetime ban, that stopped any further investigation into his gambling, so we will likely never the full depth of his gambling on the game. Plus, the rule doesn't contain an exception if you only bet for your team. The rule states no gambling, and is something he saw in every clubhouse for 30 years and decided to go against.
5. Lastly, MLB should not be ashamed how they treated Rose because they didn't bring this upon Rose. The MLB is just following the rules that were set out decades earlier. Rose brought all of this on himself, and deserves no sympathy from fans. Rose bet that he was bigger than the game, and that was a bet he was never going to win.
If you did not mess up ,,you would be able to do the things you want to do,with the reds,,your fault
Keep Itreal he knows that dumbass