My favorite duo on UA-cam, Kris and Guilluame, TC does make some affordable gear, I appreciate that. You guys did a great job showcasing these pedals. Thank you both.
I think that plug in front of the amp no make sense because in that way are 2 preamps, maybe in the fx loop with the power amp section only. Any way, good vid, for me dlx has better recreation than the other two
it's an intersting concept but still sounds with high frequencies dominance (little metallic) if plugged online... what would be interesting is to plug a 65" deluxe in a tube power amp (mooer ?) to see if it turns "round, and warm", the same for the other pedals that would be not a revolution, but a practical solution for moderate budgets... state preamp + pedals (reverb 2 + delay) + tube power amp + cabinet ? the debate is open !
The T.C. Combo Deluxe 65, their Deluxe Reverb clone pedal, does not have "Vibrato" (Tremolo), which takes it off my list right away. Also, no IR selection, just one. Yeah, it's much cheaper than the UA Dream 65 DR clone pedal, but you get so much more with the UA one that IMO it's worth the extra bucks. Also, the UA one sound better, more authentic to the amp, too. If UA had a put head phone output in, it would be untouchable, which is just about already is. The DC30 is authentic to the AC-30 to my ears, but lacks the normal/bright channels of a real AC-30. UA "Ruby" has all of that, plus an authentic Dallas Rangemaster treble booster as well. The choice of a single IR in the DC-30 is a curious, and I think a lazy one. They just used the same IR as in the Combo 65. That's a big mistake, I think. A proper AC-30 clone pedal ought to have at least the choice of the two, 12" Celestion CT3757, Alnico Blue "Bulldog" speakers that came in them to begin with. "Ruby" has that, plus a good IR of an AC-15, as well as some others. It is so much better than the DC-30, IMO. T.C.s' Jim's 45 sounds quite authentic to a Marshal JTM45 to me, and is the only one of the three I would consider getting. As for the relative prices of the T.C.s and the UA's, yes, the T.C.s are more affordable. However, once you have one of them on your board, you're not going to be thinking, "Well, it doesn't sound as good as what I might have in its place, but hey, I saved some money." No, you wouldn't be thinking that for one bloody second, would you. Cheers
I'd love to try the 45 with fuzz. If it accepts fuzzes the way the real tube amp does, it could replace my current DI amp consisting of Bogner Blue and Two Notes CAB M+, and at 1/3 of the price.
To my ears - combo deluxe 1st, JTM 2nd, DC 30 3rd. I wanted to love the Vox pedal (I love the Vox sound) but it really didn't seem to cut it. JTM was cool.
@@paniccleo not at all. The best sounding clean amp to date is the Roland JC120. Then we have the preamps and poweramps of the 1980-ties and 90-ties that have a quite a different approach in most cases. The Diezel and the Carvin heads and of course the moderns heads from Mezzabarba or Red Seven among other examples. The TC-50 or any other better sounding amp than a Vox or a JTM etc. There are sich a plethora but yet it always comes down to the same amps.
Cool video, thanks! Nice pedals, nice sounds, much better via DI with cab sim in my opinion. But I honestly find the fact that you can't change the IR file in it a bit of a deal-breaker. The 412 Creamback is a nice safe choice, but I think most people would prefer traditional choices like a 112 Jensen-something for the Combo Deluxe and 212 Alnico for the DC30. It is nicely priced compared to Strymon Irridium and the sort, but the Irridium also has these 3 amp sims in a single pedal and much more options in cab sim and reverbs. So I feel the Ampworks are cheaper but not necessarily more cost-effective because they have less features. If you just need one amp and one IR, it's not a bad deal though...
Actually, we put a 1x12 Creamback in the ComboDeluxe, a 2x12 Alnico Blue in the DC30 and a 4x12 G12M Creamback in the JIMS45. We went through the entire Celestion IR catalog and chose those, so they’d have different IRs which really match their own personalities. Regarding reverb, the ComboDeluxe offers a true convolution reverb of 4 seconds.
Although it's adding to the cost by about £100 you can run any of these (without cab sim) through IR's of your choice such as the TC Impulse pedal. If you already have an IR loader then there's no additional cost.
@@jose_simon thanks for the comment. It's great to hear how the selection was done. However, would it be much more complicated to let the user change the IR in the pedal? It already has a USB connection and IR loader, so I feel it would be a simple matter of changing the IR wav file?
@@topdazzle yes, that is true. I just feel it's a bit of a waste, since the Ampworx themselves already have an IR loader, but are limited to a single IR file in this case
@@TheBedroomRocker1 technically it’s doable, but since it’s not a feature in the current firmware, we’d have to roll out an update. It’ll depend on the reception by the users (how many consider this feature fundamental / deal breaker).
It actually has as much headroom as a real vintage blackface from 65, the thing is that when you turn the real amp to 3-4, it not only gets crunchy but also quite loud, so you play differently. When using the AmpWorx, it’s easy not to realize how cranked the amp model is because you can turn down the output level.
FYI...With regards to these Ampworx pedals, for an additional (approximately) USD40, u can get an "Amp In A Box" pedal just like these Ampworx (which has almost the same dimensions with these Ampworx) but this particular pedal gives u up to 12 different amp/cab IR (in which u can select 6 out of those 12 on the pedal itself), have 5 types of reverbs, a superb Noise Suppressor, a couple of Compressors/Boosts/Drives, a 7 band graphic EQ, an Effects Loop, a USB type C for loading yr own IRs or doing a more advance editing with its free app (U don't have to, cause right of the box, u can immediately create yr sound on the pedal itself, just like the Ampworx),a separate output (with switchable IR or bypassing the iR) on 1/4" to guitar amp's effects' Return (or any power amp) & another output with a DI XLR connector with the IR, meant to be sent to the mixer/recorder & much more...and all these, sounding great with very good feel under fingers (due to its very, very short latency). This pedal is called, NuX Amp Academy....... Just my 2 cents...
Great Demo, thank you. Question: can you use the two outputs (to amp, DI with cab sim) simultaneously? I'm thinking of using this live with a low watt combo on stage, with the cab sim signal going to FOH and the out (without cab sim) into the amp for a bit of on-stage monitoring. Many thanks!
Wow they really do everything, that I miss on my atomic ampli firebox. That thing doesn't even have a headphoen jack. And it gets weird with drive in front of it. Might have to buy the deluxe 65
@@ibinTZY fair enough but not quite the same I've watched a couple of videos of this and if you only had a few pedals that would be fine but if you had fuzz pedals etc might cause problems but I think they'd be worth trying out 🤘
@@ibinTZY They look great especially for the money 🤘 definitely worth a tryout I think the Vox AC30 type one might be perfect for me as I'm a big Rory Gallagher fan 🤘
Those little moore micros 002 j c m 900 ,sound better on my headphones ,These sound a little nasty? maybe if you put a sd 1 in front ,That makes M I A B s always sound like a good plexi or 800 Pushed with an s d 1.
At this point 99% of ears can't tell the difference if amps are just heard in the wild. Of course an in person comparison or a headphone isolation will reveal small changes but it is actually irrelevant to most people who want to play or gig, not tone snob" out as a hobby.
Be careful. There are latency issues with these pedals. The tone controls are slow to react. Also when switching channels there is a noticeable lull in switching.. Not great if playing live and you want to quickly change channels...
Just the same scratchy transistor, op-amp tones, which almost every other drive pedal also offers to me. What I do not hear, are tones, which really can compete with the real tube amps.
The firmware update makes the combo deluxe 65 crazy good. Would recommend for sure.
for real. get the firmware update it's a brand new pedal
My favorite duo on UA-cam, Kris and Guilluame, TC does make some affordable gear, I appreciate that. You guys did a great job showcasing these pedals. Thank you both.
Thanks so much buddy, we really appreciate you!! 💛 //Kris
Selling points of Combo Deluxe -
#1 - The Tone
#2 - The Look
and most importantly #3 - G hitting those initial notes of his signature tune!
Haha, an extra point for #3 😆 //Kris
Combo deluxe is perfect for me as a bassplayer who sometimes plays guitar in the studio when composing music.
Same here!
I wish the Jims 45 had a reverb ! the combo deluxe sound way better in this video than in others video, you make me want to try it :-)
Combo deluxe did the thing for me!
And someone practiced the godfather theme since the last video 😉
I think that plug in front of the amp no make sense because in that way are 2 preamps, maybe in the fx loop with the power amp section only. Any way, good vid, for me dlx has better recreation than the other two
You may feel good about yourselves! Great demo! 🙏
it's an intersting concept but still sounds with high frequencies dominance (little metallic) if plugged online...
what would be interesting is to plug a 65" deluxe in a tube power amp (mooer ?) to see if it turns "round, and warm", the same for the other pedals
that would be not a revolution, but a practical solution for moderate budgets...
state preamp + pedals (reverb 2 + delay) + tube power amp + cabinet ?
the debate is open !
Nice demo, guys!. The dc 30 has a Celestion Alnico Blue ir. The other two has g12m creamback as you said.
True, sorry for the false info on that! Thanks for the comment! 🙌 //Kris
this is the demo I was waiting for! very well done, thank you Thomann!
Nice video gentemen. I just ordered Delux 65 from your shop. :) Thanks.
The Combo Deluxe 65' is the clear winner. The reverb and the gain through the 65' sound so good.
Excellent review!
I'm a bassplayer. I wish TC electronic made an upgrade their TC SpectraDrive with CabSim.
The T.C. Combo Deluxe 65, their Deluxe Reverb clone pedal, does not have "Vibrato" (Tremolo), which takes it off my list right away. Also, no IR selection, just one.
Yeah, it's much cheaper than the UA Dream 65 DR clone pedal, but you get so much more with the UA one that IMO it's worth the extra bucks. Also, the UA one sound better, more authentic to the amp, too.
If UA had a put head phone output in, it would be untouchable, which is just about already is.
The DC30 is authentic to the AC-30 to my ears, but lacks the normal/bright channels of a real AC-30. UA "Ruby" has all of that, plus an authentic Dallas Rangemaster treble booster as well.
The choice of a single IR in the DC-30 is a curious, and I think a lazy one. They just used the same IR as in the Combo 65. That's a big mistake, I think.
A proper AC-30 clone pedal ought to have at least the choice of the two, 12" Celestion CT3757, Alnico Blue "Bulldog" speakers that came in them to begin with. "Ruby" has that, plus a good IR of an AC-15, as well as some others. It is so much better than the DC-30, IMO.
T.C.s' Jim's 45 sounds quite authentic to a Marshal JTM45 to me, and is the only one of the three I would consider getting.
As for the relative prices of the T.C.s and the UA's, yes, the T.C.s are more affordable. However, once you have one of them on your board, you're not going to be thinking, "Well, it doesn't sound as good as what I might have in its place, but hey, I saved some money."
No, you wouldn't be thinking that for one bloody second, would you.
Cheers
I'd love to try the 45 with fuzz. If it accepts fuzzes the way the real tube amp does, it could replace my current DI amp consisting of Bogner Blue and Two Notes CAB M+, and at 1/3 of the price.
don´t ever sell the bogner blue!
To my ears - combo deluxe 1st, JTM 2nd, DC 30 3rd. I wanted to love the Vox pedal (I love the Vox sound) but it really didn't seem to cut it. JTM was cool.
Sounds good !
I want a JCM800 version of this pedal.
Tricky question: small device to practice guitar and bass. With speaker or to use with headphones. Some video about? :)
It is so boring that every manufacturer just makes another Fender, AC and JTM. There are other amps, better amps and so on.
Not really. There’s a reason they have stood the test of time and are infinitely more popular than the others.
Most other amps are based on these archetypes, so...
@@nathanelder5285 really I just thought it had to do with the conservative views of guitarplayers and the industry.
@@paniccleo not at all. The best sounding clean amp to date is the Roland JC120. Then we have the preamps and poweramps of the 1980-ties and 90-ties that have a quite a different approach in most cases. The Diezel and the Carvin heads and of course the moderns heads from Mezzabarba or Red Seven among other examples. The TC-50 or any other better sounding amp than a Vox or a JTM etc. There are sich a plethora but yet it always comes down to the same amps.
Cool video, thanks! Nice pedals, nice sounds, much better via DI with cab sim in my opinion. But I honestly find the fact that you can't change the IR file in it a bit of a deal-breaker. The 412 Creamback is a nice safe choice, but I think most people would prefer traditional choices like a 112 Jensen-something for the Combo Deluxe and 212 Alnico for the DC30. It is nicely priced compared to Strymon Irridium and the sort, but the Irridium also has these 3 amp sims in a single pedal and much more options in cab sim and reverbs. So I feel the Ampworks are cheaper but not necessarily more cost-effective because they have less features. If you just need one amp and one IR, it's not a bad deal though...
Actually, we put a 1x12 Creamback in the ComboDeluxe, a 2x12 Alnico Blue in the DC30 and a 4x12 G12M Creamback in the JIMS45. We went through the entire Celestion IR catalog and chose those, so they’d have different IRs which really match their own personalities.
Regarding reverb, the ComboDeluxe offers a true convolution reverb of 4 seconds.
Although it's adding to the cost by about £100 you can run any of these (without cab sim) through IR's of your choice such as the TC Impulse pedal. If you already have an IR loader then there's no additional cost.
@@jose_simon thanks for the comment. It's great to hear how the selection was done. However, would it be much more complicated to let the user change the IR in the pedal? It already has a USB connection and IR loader, so I feel it would be a simple matter of changing the IR wav file?
@@topdazzle yes, that is true. I just feel it's a bit of a waste, since the Ampworx themselves already have an IR loader, but are limited to a single IR file in this case
@@TheBedroomRocker1 technically it’s doable, but since it’s not a feature in the current firmware, we’d have to roll out an update. It’ll depend on the reception by the users (how many consider this feature fundamental / deal breaker).
I wish the Combo Deluxe had a really high headroom. If it did, I'd order one now.
It actually has as much headroom as a real vintage blackface from 65, the thing is that when you turn the real amp to 3-4, it not only gets crunchy but also quite loud, so you play differently. When using the AmpWorx, it’s easy not to realize how cranked the amp model is because you can turn down the output level.
FYI there was a firmware update, it now has more headroom.
FYI...With regards to these Ampworx pedals, for an additional (approximately) USD40, u can get an "Amp In A Box" pedal just like these Ampworx (which has almost the same dimensions with these Ampworx) but this particular pedal gives u up to 12 different amp/cab IR (in which u can select 6 out of those 12 on the pedal itself), have 5 types of reverbs, a superb Noise Suppressor, a couple of Compressors/Boosts/Drives, a 7 band graphic EQ, an Effects Loop, a USB type C for loading yr own IRs or doing a more advance editing with its free app (U don't have to, cause right of the box, u can immediately create yr sound on the pedal itself, just like the Ampworx),a separate output (with switchable IR or bypassing the iR) on 1/4" to guitar amp's effects' Return (or any power amp) & another output with a DI XLR connector with the IR, meant to be sent to the mixer/recorder & much more...and all these, sounding great with very good feel under fingers (due to its very, very short latency). This pedal is called, NuX Amp Academy....... Just my 2 cents...
The Marshall doesn’t convince me. Have played a vintage JTM45 for years and I can’t detect any similarities. The overall idea of the pedals is superb.
Great Demo, thank you. Question: can you use the two outputs (to amp, DI with cab sim) simultaneously? I'm thinking of using this live with a low watt combo on stage, with the cab sim signal going to FOH and the out (without cab sim) into the amp for a bit of on-stage monitoring. Many thanks!
A facsimile of a truth. A memory of an idea. A truth for a thing.
Can you run the DI out and from the regular out at the same time? Like for a stage monitoring option?
Yes you can :)
I'm still waiting to see the new NUX Trident, when's it dropping?
Hi Chris, Hi Guillaume, I would like to use such pedals in front of a audient sono i.e. Maybe a try on this?
Wow they really do everything, that I miss on my atomic ampli firebox. That thing doesn't even have a headphoen jack. And it gets weird with drive in front of it. Might have to buy the deluxe 65
If they had an effects loop they'd be perfect 😏🤘
Just place the time based and modulation effects after the pedal.
@@ibinTZY fair enough but not quite the same I've watched a couple of videos of this and if you only had a few pedals that would be fine but if you had fuzz pedals etc might cause problems but I think they'd be worth trying out 🤘
@@markproctor3100 fuzz in the front end before compressor and drives works great. After the amp fuzz will sound weird i guess hahaha
@@ibinTZY They look great especially for the money 🤘 definitely worth a tryout I think the Vox AC30 type one might be perfect for me as I'm a big Rory Gallagher fan 🤘
@@markproctor3100 i was looking at the same one 😏😏 can't wait to try them all 🤩
Those little moore micros 002 j c m 900 ,sound better on my headphones ,These sound a little nasty? maybe if you put a sd 1 in front ,That makes M I A B s always sound like a good plexi or 800 Pushed with an s d 1.
Combo delux FTW.
Made them sound better than Lee and Pete on Anderton’s.
They are affordable
Why is the guitar sound bouncing from left to right? Are you guys using delay in post?
cool demo. to me they sound a bit lifeless and flat but for the price i think it's ok ...prefer the uafx dream 65 😊
If the switch its off the cab sim still works?
At this point 99% of ears can't tell the difference if amps are just heard in the wild. Of course an in person comparison or a headphone isolation will reveal small changes but it is actually irrelevant to most people who want to play or gig, not tone snob" out as a hobby.
Watching UA-cam videos, one would assume that every electric guitar player plays only overdriven tones all the time. Am I a freak?
No 🙂
I'm sorry if I missed it...but what pedal closed out the video?
Right at the end of the video? That was the Jims 45. Cheers //Kris
Be careful. There are latency issues with these pedals. The tone controls are slow to react. Also when switching channels there is a noticeable lull in switching.. Not great if playing live and you want to quickly change channels...
Just the same scratchy transistor, op-amp tones, which almost every other drive pedal also offers to me. What I do not hear, are tones, which really can compete with the real tube amps.
I'd rather play through an amp any day. Even plugins sound a lot better. No offence, Thomann, it was an amazing video
I was watching andertons do the tone master Princeton, they went how does it sound with fuzz, shit was the answer and they quickly moved on
You can play these pedals through the front of your amp or via you FX loop.
He should have stopped turning knobs at 3:45 on the combo, your not trying to make metal on a fender
TC electronics Chinese shit !
Just like your iPhone I guess ;)