Glad your back at it on UA-cam. Bought my first route in January. Your videos have been very helpful. Right now my service rates are lower than I want them to be, but I'm happy just getting started. I'll increase the rates in about a year.
Great video. One key deduction left out of the Math was the Labor Rate/ Payroll. Among other direct and non direct cost that affect the bottom line profit a pool and/or route earns. If factored in that profit will be significantly lower.
It’s simple charge 100 a hour for labor rate charge a specific amount for diagnosis. Apply your local pool stores cost for parts. And or use the list price from your local distributor. As for filters, A complete tear down takes roughly a hour. Seeing filters are some of the hardest work, I charge 125 de, 150 cartridges. And annual Chem fee is based off market rate for non-standard chems. I charge 150 for annual spring / summer chem start up. I certainly wouldn’t ask around your distributor cause half the dudes don’t know their financials and just wing it. Burn out is real and when you don’t make shut for how hard we work - burn out becomes a real business threat.this is currently for 2021/2022
Great video and very informational! This is something ALL pool professionals should know, the basics of running a pool route. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Maybe expand on your question. Pricing should be as such that every pool is profitable. I do not have any pools that are not profitable. I may have some that are a little more of a pain, but those are more profitable! LOL
Oscar O summer time we average between $23 and $26 a month per pool. For off season we can get it down to $11 - $19. Your pools are like ours out there and the climate should be about the same. So I feel you could predict numbers using those for your costs.
Thanks for the video. How often would that be, in terms of going to the customers house? If it's every week, I reckon that's a tough one, to service 80 customers in that same week?
If the pool is pretty much clean and at spec chemically, you're done in less than 5 minutes. Once all your pools on your routes are pretty much clean, they're easier to maintain. Easily do 30 a day locally. Thats $3k a month. Do that 3 days a week and live your life the other 4.
Yeah just tell the client you only service pools. There are plenty of people at your local distributor willing to do repairs for you. That’s a cash cow you’re missing out on. But I get it also. I sun out a lot of my repairs cause I’m too busy doing pools and filters. I just tack on a bit on top of what my repair guy charges so I make a bit.
Not really - I was charging 125 at that time a year later 130, currently at 160 and this January 175-180 for basic pool service. My bigger pools or pools with water features are already at 180-200.
@@edwardspoolservice5558 its different... on you're location ofc... here in florida the going rate is around 100$ per month... but here its season round & literally every house has a pool.
My auto insurance is about $55 per month. Guess it depends what you drive, how you drive, and where you live. Chem prices have increased since this vid was posted though.
@@HughMother Yikes! I don't carry full coverage though. It's risky, but I can replace my vehicle for less than the cumulative total of the extra money I would have spent on the extra insurance. If I ever need to do that, however, I'll consider full coverage thereafter. I'm in FL, too.
@@dynamoz5191 for me?? A more realistic numbers are this: It costs me $75-$90 per pool per month to operate and pay every expense in my business. I then charge 100 for my labor or 25 a week per stop. There is currently push back from clients and I struggled to get my clients to 160 a month (which puts me at 17.50 a stop). I need to get my labor back to 25 a stop. So I will go 180-200 for basic pool service come January 2023. With hopes the industry and gas slows the fuck down on raising rates and costs. You should also consider how much you would pay an employee to do a pool and calculate that. I think current National average for pool service is between 200-230 which would allow me to hire someone to do pools if I could 1099. But that’s a difficult issue in and of itself currently.
This seems crazy. How many hours a week do you have to work... 80 pools a week. How can you possibly afford to bring on employees at these tiny margins.
This is not a business this is a job when you run your numbers like this. No scalability. You have to include the cost of your tech when running the numbers
Or impossible but I digress. I do agree. I think most would see that their business expenses to perform a single pool per month is roughly 65-75 dollars a month. So if let’s say you do a pool per week at 100 dollars, you’re actually only profiting 25 bucks divide that by 4 stops a week and you are getting a whopping $6.25 each time you service that pool. You’re only making .41 cents a min. NOPE rates should start for a basic pool at 160 minimum and that needs to even go up as our business expenses continue to rise.
Current (all business expenses) per pool per month comes out to $90 bucks. In order to make my 100 an hour labor rate (15 min a stop) I need to be at 190. I need to get rates higher than that with a National average for pool service at 200-230. So 160 sucks cause I’m only making 17.50 a stop. And I need 25 a stop per week.
This was great, I just started my pool business and this is just what I was looking for. Keep up the great work.
Glad your back at it on UA-cam. Bought my first route in January. Your videos have been very helpful. Right now my service rates are lower than I want them to be, but I'm happy just getting started. I'll increase the rates in about a year.
David Shaughnessy you’re on the right track. Awesome to here you’re out doing your own thing. Enjoy it
In 2024 the chemical cost is $30 per month per pool, or $2,400 per month in the hot months. Your number of $400 for chemicals is WAY off.
Great video. One key deduction left out of the Math was the Labor Rate/ Payroll. Among other direct and non direct cost that affect the bottom line profit a pool and/or route earns. If factored in that profit will be significantly lower.
Charles Scott I know and I appreciate your input. I’m still learning how to communicate everything through video. Thanks for the comment sir
Just getting my business off the ground, thank you so much for your advice!
Hey Ryan, love the videos! Is there a resource somewhere to figure out the pricing for the other services and add-ons?
It’s simple charge 100 a hour for labor rate charge a specific amount for diagnosis. Apply your local pool stores cost for parts. And or use the list price from your local distributor. As for filters, A complete tear down takes roughly a hour. Seeing filters are some of the hardest work, I charge 125 de, 150 cartridges. And annual Chem fee is based off market rate for non-standard chems. I charge 150 for annual spring / summer chem start up. I certainly wouldn’t ask around your distributor cause half the dudes don’t know their financials and just wing it. Burn out is real and when you don’t make shut for how hard we work - burn out becomes a real business threat.this is currently for 2021/2022
Great video!!!!!
Great video and very informational! This is something ALL pool professionals should know, the basics of running a pool route. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Catalina Pools AZ LLC my boy right here!
Great video! But I think that you could even define which pool is more or less profitable.
Maybe expand on your question. Pricing should be as such that every pool is profitable. I do not have any pools that are not profitable. I may have some that are a little more of a pain, but those are more profitable! LOL
Great video
I NEEDED this
Great Video PSP’s, sounds very lucrative. Do you have a video on how to gather those first 80 clients? And how to keep them on the books?
Jonny Reese I like the way you think sir
do pool remodeling services get paid more?
Hey Ryan ! I’m starting out here in Las Vegas. Curious to know what you average chemicals cost per pool is per month and or week?
Oscar O summer time we average between $23 and $26 a month per pool. For off season we can get it down to $11 - $19. Your pools are like ours out there and the climate should be about the same. So I feel you could predict numbers using those for your costs.
Pool Rescuers awesome! I was using $25 as my estimates. Good to know! Thanks
Oscar O you got it sir. Go get yours
do you have a pool tech guy
Any more pool rescue podcast coming out ?
What vehicle do you use for work? $250 for gas seems pretty cheap imo
$99 a month for weekly service!??!?!?
That's what I was thinking?!
Thanks for the video. How often would that be, in terms of going to the customers house? If it's every week, I reckon that's a tough one, to service 80 customers in that same week?
They must be doing 1 time a week service with multiple techs.
If the pool is pretty much clean and at spec chemically, you're done in less than 5 minutes. Once all your pools on your routes are pretty much clean, they're easier to maintain. Easily do 30 a day locally. Thats $3k a month. Do that 3 days a week and live your life the other 4.
i do 65 pools alone per week and work alone mo assistant
Who's doing 80 pools a week by themselves? And for only $99?
Should I start a pool business if I only know how to clean pools and not do repairs?
Yeah just tell the client you only service pools. There are plenty of people at your local distributor willing to do repairs for you. That’s a cash cow you’re missing out on. But I get it also. I sun out a lot of my repairs cause I’m too busy doing pools and filters. I just tack on a bit on top of what my repair guy charges so I make a bit.
How often do you service a pool a month? And do you charge 99 everytime you service so if you service twice a month is it $200?
This examples charges $99 per month for weekly service (you clean the pool every week for $99)
No it’s more like $25 a visit 99 a month
Stan is correct - and the charge at 99 is way to low.
@@scottlandb6579 I agree! I am averaging $275 per month a pool, and that is 2xs a week service.
@@edwardspoolservice5558 how much would you charge for 3x per week service for a vacation rental?
Wait that’s not even including repairs?!!?
If you are charging 99$ per month you are. Not making nothing it’s about 180$ for a decent amount of chemicals
How much are you charging in your area and where are you located?
Are you cleaning these pools every week for $avg 99 a month?
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Sorry but $362 on chemicals on a 80 pool route is beyond ridiculous
Depends on area and weather.
Also, this video is 3 years old
prices were different then
Not really - I was charging 125 at that time a year later 130, currently at 160 and this January 175-180 for basic pool service. My bigger pools or pools with water features are already at 180-200.
$99 a month? Come on man
I agree! I am averaging $275 per month a pool, and that is 2xs a week service.
@@edwardspoolservice5558 its different... on you're location ofc... here in florida the going rate is around 100$ per month... but here its season round & literally every house has a pool.
That's shit
@@williamklingeman8256 Is there already too much competition in Florida?
His business bill of breaking down the math is sooo off lol 372 for Chen’s a month? And insurance at $109 a month that’s to funny.
what are more realistic numbs?
My auto insurance is about $55 per month. Guess it depends what you drive, how you drive, and where you live. Chem prices have increased since this vid was posted though.
@@mooky407 my auto insurance is $375 a month here in Florida
@@HughMother Yikes! I don't carry full coverage though. It's risky, but I can replace my vehicle for less than the cumulative total of the extra money I would have spent on the extra insurance. If I ever need to do that, however, I'll consider full coverage thereafter. I'm in FL, too.
@@dynamoz5191 for me?? A more realistic numbers are this:
It costs me $75-$90 per pool per month to operate and pay every expense in my business. I then charge 100 for my labor or 25 a week per stop. There is currently push back from clients and I struggled to get my clients to 160 a month (which puts me at 17.50 a stop). I need to get my labor back to 25 a stop. So I will go 180-200 for basic pool service come January 2023. With hopes the industry and gas slows the fuck down on raising rates and costs. You should also consider how much you would pay an employee to do a pool and calculate that. I think current National average for pool service is between 200-230 which would allow me to hire someone to do pools if I could 1099. But that’s a difficult issue in and of itself currently.
This seems crazy. How many hours a week do you have to work... 80 pools a week. How can you possibly afford to bring on employees at these tiny margins.
It’s an example. He said that in the beginning. It’s so one can get an idea of simple accounting.
This is not a business this is a job when you run your numbers like this. No scalability. You have to include the cost of your tech when running the numbers
99 a month?? Pfft THATS in possible to make money on
Or impossible but I digress. I do agree. I think most would see that their business expenses to perform a single pool per month is roughly 65-75 dollars a month. So if let’s say you do a pool per week at 100 dollars, you’re actually only profiting 25 bucks divide that by 4 stops a week and you are getting a whopping $6.25 each time you service that pool. You’re only making .41 cents a min. NOPE rates should start for a basic pool at 160 minimum and that needs to even go up as our business expenses continue to rise.
@@scottlandb6579 160 a month?
@@hashbrown4278 that’s current rate in so ca. I’ll be raising to 180-200 Jan 2023
Current (all business expenses) per pool per month comes out to $90 bucks. In order to make my 100 an hour labor rate (15 min a stop) I need to be at 190. I need to get rates higher than that with a National average for pool service at 200-230. So 160 sucks cause I’m only making 17.50 a stop. And I need 25 a stop per week.
@@scottlandb6579 thanks.