Was this wrestler entertaining or insulting?
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- Okay today I’ve got a Patreon request to cover Chavo Guerrero in WWE. But plot twist it’s his time as Kerwin White. Basically Chavo went through a gimmick change and he was no a white middle class American man. Sounds whacky! He just feuded with Shelton Benjamin for pretty much no reason. Let’s find out if this gimmick is as bad as the narrative over the years has told us!
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Crazy that Chavo was meant to permeantly keep that gimmick. Then...yeah Eddie's passing and all, even Vince couldn't let Chavo keep a dumb gimmick like that after such a tragedy personal to him
Which makes it funny dieting the Eddie tribute show he dressed as kerwin white haha
Also crazy that Chavo wanted to take the gimmick further and come out dressed in a white sheet with a hood.
The gimmick was great…
@@jimbo_1312 Did he really? I never knew that.
He actually liked to see white people being angry at this gimmick
Kerwin White will always be hilarious to me.
Too bad it was on heat
This is easily the most retarded yet funny thing Vince ever came up with
@@willemdafo2241 I beg to differ it's not worst it's not even top 5
He was different and fun. people are too soft. bunch of pansies
@@paulwoodford1984 yup. Too many snowflakes on all sides. People get all bent out of shape when you even ask questions. Question Trump? ENRAGED!
This was fucking hilarious. Chavo as Kerwin White was comedy gold
This was probably the best thing Chavo has ever done. Certainly in terms of the most entertaining thing he ever did
I honestly found this gimmick hilarious too. His theme was excellent. But should never have gone higher than Heat with the odd Raw/Smackdown appearance. Can't believe he got on Unforgiven with it.
This was a time when Chapelle's show was still in the popular zeitgeist. As fucking whacky as this gimmick is, it reflected pop culture of the time really well. And Chavo, pro as he is, gave it his all.
Alternatively I also really liked the Star Dust character despite Cody seeming to not like it. That was when I became a real fan of his, honestly, cuz he took that shit sandwhich and did his all with it and made it something. His run with his brother for the tag belts was really good.
It was supposed to be funny! It's not like he was a bloody neo Nazi
I liked this gimmick for its over the top silliness. I even brought a sign at house show that said "I Want to be White Like Kerwin White." Chavo saw it and waved back. I mention it about when I met him in person few years back.
Whatever you think about the gimmick, his theme music was BANGING. Perfect for the character.
You are damn right
And then WWE reused this theme in 2012, when they gave it to Michael Cole
🎶 I wake up every morning 🎶 snap snap fingers
@@youtubemember1115 Can't wait to embrace the day
I was a kid when this happened and I thought Kerwin was great. Even at 11 or 12 I got the joke. All my friends who liked wrestling at the time also got it and thought it was hilarious.
I don't get a lot of this recent stuff of saying certain things were terrible, disgusting etc when lots of these trendy things had practically the opposite view when they happened
Yea, I had no idea some people didn't like the kerwin gimmick. It was hilarious.
What are you talking about when tragedy’s happen it usually goes the other way??
@@TheSweetestScience What are you talking about "tragedies"?
That's kind of you just using yours and your friends experience to speak for everybody though, the gimmick didn't do anything for me either way though I found his segments funny but I remember a couple of forums I posted on at the time absolutely hated it and Power Slam magazine in the UK, which was non kayfabe, panned it too from what I remember. Don't think it's a retrospective thing, it was a pretty tasteless gimmick at a time when WWE was doing a lot of tasteless shit, pretty sure Vince called Cena My N*gga around this exact time too.
@@benzo9059 He did, which was equally hilarious
Cole singing his entrance music is even funnier when you remember this is the music Cole walks out to now. 😂
taijiri was such a legend watching him wrestle was like watching a magician perform
Kerwin White *could* have been interesting. Comes off as a man who has internalised so much negative stereotyping about his ethnicity & culture that he rejects it completely. Long term you'd look to have him reconnect with and fully embrace his cultural heritage. Maybe some funny angles with Eddie trying to 'deprogram' him, 'forcing' him to consume Latino food & media.
Kerwin White and "Hole in One" Darsow, the golfer team that could've been.
And the goon, happy Gilmore character
Chavo and Smash, great duo
While play-fighting with my 6 year old nephew I gave him a “Samoan Suplex”. I’m 5’7” and not Samoan, so I apologize.
It would've been interesting if Kerwin White was in the Klan but gets unmasked & gets revealed as Chavo Guerrero
Right?! Should've done a segment like the Dave Chappelle sketch about the blind KKK member who doesn't know he's black
@@willemdafo2241 that sketch was magnificent though I don't have the same confidence in WWE
That actually would have been hilarious, in a dark humor sort of way.
I thought this was where they were going with Ken Kennedy and skinhead unmasked kane
Also, his Kerwin White theme was reused as Michael Cole's theme later on.
"What's the whitest song we have?" "Well I'm glad you asked..."
@@lunaitc
"You want to be one of the boys then you're getting Kerwin Whites theme" - Vince Probably
Kerwin White had more charisma than Chavo could ever dream of.
Yeah, but I'm glad that he ended the gimmick after Eddie Guerrero passed away.
R.I.P.
Chavo was a better heel than face. Still is. Can't stand him. RIP Eddie.
It's interesting seeing how things would transpire post Kerwin White. Chavo would have a few more matches with Shelton on Raw, but by then he was Chavo again and Shelton was a heel so the roles were reversed. One of those matches was when Chavo "retired" after he lost an IC title match. In addition to that, Chavo and Dolph would reunite at one point in 2011 as a tag team of sorts back when Dolph was closely associated with Vickie Guerrero. And I remember they alluded to their past teaming when Chavo was Kerwin White on at least one episode of WWE Superstars.
Idk but I marked out to his theme every time 😄
Eeeded😢d Greg t and😂
It's a parody. It's entertainment. If you get offended you need to reevaluate yourself
Those same people make jokes and laugh at other ethnicities religions, etc., but get all in their feelings when it's their turns. I always make sure to remind them of their hypocrite ways.
Ugh, neckbeards
I met Chaco on one of the wrestling cruises. He was one of the nicest people I’ve ever met. He took a selfie with me and sat and talked for a few. Thank you for that❤️
Rumor has it Kerwin White is still feuding with Shelton in AEW.
I remember hating Kerwin White as a kid, now I find the gimmick absolutely hilarious, not every gimmick should have great competitive matches, Kerwin White was supposed to be a little lame, in spite of Chavo being a very talented in-ring athlete, it's weird how in 2005-6 WWE were clearly trying to do SOMETHING with Chavo because he got a lot of heat for both this gimmick and his feud with Rey Mysterio (which was awesome), yet in 2007 they jobbed him out to freaking Hornswoggle...
I mean credit to Chavo for embracing the gimmick. I think this was when Eddie died and this ended out of respect for his uncle. For Character work, this is entertaining. Match wise, meh.
this gimmick was based and hilarious
Shelton Benjamin is seriously an underrated star. He should have been a lot more in the WWE.
They brought Thea Vidale in and even she couldn't get him over.
I get what the gimmick was supposed to be, and trust me, if done right it could have been something. Only problem was it's Chavo, and Chavo isn't a slouch in the ring. It's kinda hard to boo him once the bell rings.
Hey at least dolph didn’t start off as the gobbledygooker unlike Chavo’s other uncle Hector. Not to mention being a caddy can’t be too much worse than being a male cheerleader.
17:04 the only thing missing from that golfing faction was Barry Darsow.
The Golf Club as this faction's name is a pun that is so bad it's good
This is the best version of Chavo.
Tajiri is so underrated. Me and my buddies always thought he could have been a big star.
The Ron DeSantis gimmick
Do a Ring of the Hawk on Rocky Miavia, & the Ringmaster.
Yeah I don’t care if people liked this or not I thought Chavo was funny in this role and the theme song was awesome. Hope you get around to Simon Dean at some point he’s my favorite campy, mid-card, wwe heel.
Yeah I don't care if you thought he was funny in this role or you liked the theme song 🤔
Deep seeing Chris Benoit and chavó breakdown when Eddie passed.
Shelton was a genuine future star in 2005. He had a great look, and his moves were so crisp and natural-looking. Why the hell did WWE let him waste away with Kerwin White on Heat?
Because reasons
9:55 Sounds exactly like how stale Dolph's stay in the WWE has been for nearly a decade now
His feud with the Miz in 2016 was pretty good.
It's crazy when you realize there are quite a few wrestlers who have been with WWE for over 10 years that have had careers so underwhelming and forgettable that you can't name a single memorable moment or feud they've had.
03:50
Kerwin White almost breaks character by momentarily reverting to his Mexican roots by pulling out a coat-hanger and attempting a move known as the "back alley abortion" 😳
Chavo was playing a regular Floridian Latino
People who dump on Kerwin or Cryme Tyme seemingly miss how they both have clear, heavy influence from Chapelle's Show, which was huge at this time and had similarly over the top racial caricature humor.
Can you do a video on Dave Taylor’s wwe run
Couldn’t do this gimmick nowadays lol. I miss the times when entertainment and comedy were just that…entertaining and comical. Things become an issue when it’s made to be an issue. Shit was funny. Im also glad Tahiti didn’t drool his green mist out during his entrance; it looked close 🤮
***Tajiri
You could definitely do this gimmick today
@@BigmanDogs It’s not the fact he’s pretending to be white, it’s the fact that he , ‘couldn’t achieve anything as Chavo, and blames Hispanic people’. That’s the part that would be “controversial “.
@Bobby Woods Lool up "Kerwin white talks about shelton benjamin on raw". He isn't actually blaming Hispanic people or other minorities. He is pretending to be racist in order to mock White people for being racist. That's why he says "I represent all of you" (white people) and then proceeds to say a bunch of racist things with a smile on his face.
The green 'sweater' I think is supposed to be an PGA Masters jacket. Imo pretty funny.
Masters champions get to keep the green jacket for a year. Specifically, they get to keep the green jacket away from the club for as long as they're the reigning Masters champion. From the day they win the Masters green jacket, winners can take the green jacket wherever they wish.Apr 10, 2022
They let Kerwin go back to being Chavo Guerrero after Eddie died, but didn’t let Stardust go back to Cody Rhodes after Dusty died.
You are one of the most unbiased you really evaluate the run despite the wrestler can we get a how good was Eddie Guerrero and Chris benoit's world title runs from 2004
I always got a kick out of Kerwin White's theme music.
sounds like its supposed to be a frank sinatra knock off
I don’t remember this but I remember loving the mexicools as a kid
They were great loved that gimmick
It was the perfect lower card character during the Chappelle sketch comedy era of the mid 2000s
What's insulting is that WWE thought this was entertaining but it wasn't, it was just stupid 🤷♂️
Every chavo promo mostly is 'my uncle eddie'
This is one of my favorite gimmicks of all time and I wish he was able to keep it for longer
This was a funny gimmick with Chavo being a white Carlton Banks
So Ziggler has been in WWE nearly 20 years?
Please do “Berlyn” in WCW
Chavo got beat down by the Mexicools, that's what initiated this change.
Hawk my lord... Please do a complete video on Norman Smiley. He was so underrated and one of the most entertaining guys in WCW... I know he wrestled too many matches for Ring of the hawk but at least a video honoring him or something like that my giant bird lord
Nemeth is actually pronounced like Nay-meth it's a Hungarian family name, Ziggler has some Hungarian heritage.
Was it cringy? Yes. It was suppose to be.
I thought it was dumb when I was watching it live younger. Now I can appreciate Chavo going all in on this.
Honestly, this gimmick could work today. Have someone play up to the HWITE stereotypes. You know, things like showing up on time. Knowing how to spell. Knowing math. Having a job. Those kinda things only HWITE people do.
The biggest heel in the business
bruh
HEAT
Ok so your admitting my race is superior good
5:45 He look like Hardcore/Crash Holly with Kurt Angle stare 😆
Today's video is brought to you by kerwin white, for whom the girls keep it tight.
Dolph has to be one of the weirdest former World Champions ever
This gimmick was one of my first pro wrestling exposures, and I remember hating the hell out of him. I genuinely thought I'd be a huge Chavo fan. Even made him my heavyweight champion in one of the video games.
TL;DR kids are stupid and have no taste
We need a Dream Match between Kerwin White, & Akeem the African Dream.
How about Bret The Hitman Hart's time in WCW?
No matter how over the top obnoxious he's trying to be, Kerwin is still 100 times more likable than Chavo. He had a lot of TV time in a few different parts of his career, but his character was paper thin and not unique in any way... Chavo is just a middle class American guy from Texas who desperately wanted people to think he's a Mexican badass from the streets of Juarez. F--king cringe.
God Benjamin was a machine back then
Should have had a transitional World Title reign in late 2004-early 2006 for sure.
@@SirJoelsuf1 100% give it to him for about 2 months or so. Have some banger matches. And drop it after.
Can you do one on Eugene? Eric Bischoff's "special" nephew and wrestling savant.
I think he actually had more than 30 matches on the main show
@@cjthehaasman9954 he could still do a Was he any good? vid on him
@@HWJASURY true
We have a Eugene video done. We just based it on his original run with the company. Coming soon.
As a black kid who didn’t understand, I thought this was hilarious, as an adult still find it hilarious. Ppl just pussies now 🤷🏾
Always thought Chavo was underrated. As a true pro, he went all in on this garbage gimmick. Respect.
As a kid, I found it pretty uncomfortable but looking back at stuff it was pretty hilarious.
Kerwin is like a Reverse Akeem.
It was always weird hearing Coach trying to put him over since they are both heels, while trying to dance around the fact that his catch phrase was "if it's not white it's not right." I bet he hated putting this gimmick over.
How about a ROH with the Mexicools in WWE? According to Cagematch, they had 15 matches not counting house shows and Velocity
I want to know what happened to the Barood campaign!! I need his style in my life.
Message me on insta if you want some info
Please do Muhammad Hassan's entire WWE run on Ring Of The Hawk
I’m not Hispanic but I am mixed: half black half white. I loved this gimmick because it’s something I’ve seen a million times, not that there’s anything wrong with that. It’s America. But I appreciate what they were trying to parody and I still find the humor in it today even though there is a less than zero percent chance this shit would ever fly today even if it was meant to be ironic.
This is one of those things that lands nicely in the So Bad it's Good zone.
Entertaining
@19:30
It should be noted that the Raw and Smackdown for that week was taped on the same Sunday in Minneapolis that Eddie passed because they went on a European tour afterwards that included the next week's Raw & Smackdown tapings from Sheffield, England.
Between feuding with Chavo and the "Momma" gimmick, it's clear they had no real plans for Shelton after 2004.
15:33 I never knew until this video that Val Venis had ever adopted green ring attire which makes me see him as a bald Ken Shamrock. No offense to Ken Shamrock.
I know you don't like him but what do you think held Chavo Guerrero back in wrestling marky
Being a Guerrero. Altough he was a great technical wrestler, he wasn't as good as Eddie and nowhere near as charismatic
Chavo must have had a blast filming the clips for his entrance video.
Shelton Benjamin is probably the most underutilized wrestler in wwe history. Cornette said he was the best wrestler out of that ovw class with cena, Batista, Lesnar and Orton. Can’t believe they released him again.
For me it was entertaining as hell
Chavo should have been taking a break with benoit at this time
Vince did not believe in breaks.
Aka he's always been a lunatic douche.
Thank The good Lord Mcmahon Dropped This Gimmick Entirely Shortly After Eddie's Death. That's WWE In A Nutshell.What The Hell Was WWE Thinking At The Time?
I wished it was longer, but due to Eddie’s death, it was cut off immediately.
Considering the time and the plight of Latin people in America in the early Bush Admin this was actually pretty funny and cathartic.
Dream Match, Cousin vs Cousin:
Kerwin White vs Dominick Mys...Guerrero
It was neither. It wasn’t even the kind of “offensive” that neckbeards swarm to protect like “no way they’d show this today hahah”. It was just boring and a clear waste of talent.
Excellent gimmick in my opinion!!
Hilarious gimmick. The entrance alone is a 10/10. fair play to Chavo for putting his all into this gimmick. Should have been more direction, as said, do the character could have reached higher heights. I’ve always found Chavo extremely bland, it’s a shame Eddie passed so soon, would have loved to have seen where this character went.
I see WWE’s rematch after rematch era had already begun by 2005.
Pretty much why I finally stopped watching around 2014.
Only took me a decade!
It was a weird time for WWE, and I loved it. You got Super Heroes, white supremacist golfers and my favorite, Look At Me, The Conman Rob Conway
The point to the Kerwin White gimmick was that no one should get rid of their heritage. The gimmick told a story. You were SUPPOSED to hate Kerwin White and wish for Chavo Guerrero to be himself. White is a heel gimmick. White wasn't as good as Chavo. It would of played out more to show more of that story, but was of course cut short because of Eddie's death. Then he went back to Chavo Guerrero.
Yea man
I thought it was hilarious, especially since he would do the little wave. But my god, I can't believe Vince was going to trap Chavo in this gimmick for the rest of his tenure.
Most based gimmick ever
Muhammad hassan
This was a channel changer for me.
I'm not a snowflake so I always found the gimmick hilarious