How Uber Is Scamming You
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- Опубліковано 7 тра 2024
- The ride-hailing company Uber is everywhere: it has rapidly become one of the most ubiquitous corporate entities in the United States. But beneath all of its bluster, Uber has a big secret: there’s no profit, no gains in efficiency or effectiveness, and, above all, no innovation. Simply put, Uber is one of the biggest scams in American economic history. And it’s not just scamming its investors (although it definitely is): it’s scamming you - its users - and, most of all, it’s scamming its drivers. While they get rich, you get ripped off. Edward Ongweso, Jr., technology reporter at VICE News, explains.
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0:00 Is Uber Efficient?
1:55 Uber's Master Plan
3:19 Who's Getting Scammed Worse?
6:22 Uber's Lies
7:36 Credits
ERRATA: at 2:55, it should read "foreseeable."
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I love this channel
You guys should get ads on UA-cam because Ben Shapiro and his circus troupe have ads all over the place
@@loki362 this is one of their goals set in their Patreon. It's 68% complete, so it needs more stable support to get it going.
@@Sam_Hetfield time to do a little trolling and by that I mean donate money
@@loki362 for real. I know it’s kinda always been something they’re known for and maybe it’s just me but I feel like I’m getting non-stop conservative ads from all directions on UA-cam lately. Prager, Shapiro, Knowles, Abby Shapiro, TPUsa, Liberty Hangout, Epoch Times, something about the conservative guide to socialism. It’s getting ridiculous.
This is where the whole of capitalism is heading btw, completely horrifying
We will soon live in a plutocracy
Yep, end stage capitalism
@@wh2960 we do live in a plutocracy already. Princeton did a study which found that the average citizen has zero influence on policy while interest groups and economic elites have massive influence on policy.
@@Eli-vg1bx Money = speech. The more money you have the more speech you have, it’s rather disgusting.
As robotics and A.I. get more advanced, its not hard to imagine a sizeable chunk of the population fighting tooth and nail for these shitty jobs. The reality is, unless there's some drastic change, we need to get use to an ever decreasing quality of life.
The American dream: working full-time for a company that pays you under minimum wage because you struggle to find a job only to get paid even less after a while and then indirectly destroy even more jobs. Truly the greatest country
@@nickarjoma5350 that's really cool for CA…
More like in a sarcastic way. They sure lie all the time. Time for us to bail out of this country.
@@nickarjoma5350 Yeah, but minimum wage doesn't apply to gig workers. Having a more reasonable minimum wage is nice for some workers, but even at $15/hour, in California, that is a starvation wage.
God bless our politicians for giving uber, amazon, and tesla billions in so many different ways.
Definitely the american dream
Nick Arjoma they literally passed a proposition last year saying that explicitly is NOT the case
"Uber, like other gig companies, *is* an innovator: not in technology, but in exploitation". Spot on. Ultimately we need better regulations, workers rights, minimum wage laws, bans on zero-hour contracts, the whole lot. Every single "innovation" these companies make has to be closed.
In the meantime, we as consumers should really reflect on the true cost of the perceived "convenience" that the services of these companies offer.
You don't need regulations. You need to be conscious.
@@GamerOner2H to be honest, we need both. It’s not enough to deflect blame on the end-user. If the economic and policy environment is designed to help, or even permit, exploitative business models to thrive and establish monopolies, it becomes almost impossible for consumers, potential employees, business partners, socially-driven entrepreneurs etc to make ethical decisions; the penalties incurred in making ethical choices (higher costs/prices, barriers to entry, lower quality services/experience, so on) become disproportionate. So I agree that we need to be more conscious about the choices we make, but without regulations and state intervention, all you’re doing is swimming against the tide - and that’s admirable, but eventually you’re probably going to drown.
I call it the upgraded slavery system by the American society.
Yeah, DON'T use them!
Exploitation? Uber never forced anyone to work for them. People work for Uber voluntarily just like they do for any other company. But this is what happens when you deal with spoiled self entitled toddlers in adult bodies, who think they deserve everything just because they exist.
Good thing that taxi drivers are actually treated like professionals in germany. Fortunately Uber failed here.
Uhm in several major cities they are rapidly expanding. Granted they had to adapt their business model and are more of a limousine service that also seems to handle fleet management.
I'm afraid Uber is currently doing quite well in Germany.
I hate to say this because I'm a US citizen but German citizens are just smarter and more educated. They don't put up with as much nonsense from corporations as we do.
Edward is a kickass presenter. Bring him back sometime.
A, thầy Dan ! 🙂
Yees, bring him back to PragerU videos.
There could be multiple series on Uber. From profitability, to deregulation and sexual assaults, to corruption/lobbying and insider relationships.
agree
Listen to This Machine Kills and you shall wait no longer.
In the 1950s, America axed the most comprehensive mass-transit system ever proposed in order to capitalize on people buying their own robot horses. And now we have this shit. Enough to make you buy a bike.
Sounds like the plot straight out of "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" with Judge Doom's plan for the freeway!
"Oh they'll drive, they'll have to! You see, I bought the red car so I could dismantle it!"-Judge Doom
^ DAMN IS THAT PROPHETIC!!!
Unfortunately in rural areas we really don't have that option.
Reject modernity
Return to riding a horse
@@LigitBeef it is possible to expand transport to those areas tho
@@lenini056 not prophetic that actually happened in Los Angeles in the forties and fifties
I will NEVER use Uber again. I just did several price checks for rides from my house to the airport, mall, doctor's office, grocery store, and other locations and compared them to the cab companies and here is what I found.... In my small Midwestern City Uber is actually charging DOUBLE what our local cab companies are for the same distances, what a total scam!
Yeah they're definitely getting way more expensive. A 15 min drive is often times upwards of $50. I do live In the city but the commute is short
Over here in Norway we ban Uber because of the reasons in this video and also because Uber employees aren’t really real employees which is more riskier then taking a taxi
Uber is the fastest way to depreciate your new car.
Can’t you get another job than Uber ??
They don’t even paid ?
That's why you buy a clean but used vehicle for work purposes.
not if you a bad car to begin with lol
@@VegasElement correct
Someone force you all to do it ?
They spent 53 million dollars to pass a bill in CA that’s all I need to know.
Imagine if they'd spent that money on their employees.
Uber, Lyft, and doordash combined spent $200 million to deny minimum wage to their employees
And I don't get HOW that didn't raise red flags to my fellow Californians.
Yesser
@Jesse Williams So did many others. I was extremely disappointed to find out it passed. All I needed to know when voting on this bill was where the money was coming from. It was immediately obvious to me what they were doing.
PSA - Join a union! It barely costs anything and it helps everyone, especially you!
Proud Teamster right here.
UNION???? B-b-b-ut that sounds like- like- Socierlism!!!!! 🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 *collapses in on itself*
@@LaserDawg *yes*
@@LaserDawg no socialism is when vuvuzela 100 billion peopl no iphone
We are contractors
As a former Uber driver. I approve this message.
You forgot to mention the taxes that drivers have to pay as the IRS manage to prevent you claiming many deductions.
Let’s have an analysis on Amazon in a next video. 😉
the mileage deduction is pretty lucrative, but it prevents you from claiming other expenses. It's either/or, and you can blame Uncle Sam for that.
I did Uber on and off for 5 years and I was getting paid less in 2021 then in 2016. Everything is this video is 100% accurate. I refuse to drive for them. I did a 1 hour and 20 min trip for $40. $40!!!!
I mean that is about $30/hr
That contradicts this guys claim that uber drivers only make $8 an hour?
@@jeremymason8081 Mind you..I pay a $15 toll. That same trip in 2016 would have generated about $100. I live close to NYC so any trip to NYC would mean i made enough money for the day. I would do an NYC trip and a few more here and there and be good. Now thats not possible.
@@Luis-xj6nf ez pass
@@Thatdude_Nik There are many variables. You pay for your own gas , you pay income taxes , you have to get new cars every 2 to 3 years (full time Uber drivers) also repairs , parts and so on…it’s a scam
Gravel institute animators absolutely crushed this one
Compare this to pragerU animations lol
Bless them so much, I'm an animator and I appreciate the attention to detail that is put in their content.
They crush it every time.
Quality over quantity 💯
I feel like this video didn't lead to a transparent conclusion. Their theory relies heavily on the fact that there are people willing to do Uber full-time. Ever since the app's conception, I have never viewed the idea of Uber as a consistent source of profit and I believe the majority thought this way. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Uber-ing a choice? Isn't it unfair to conclude that Uber exploits its drivers when it's their choice to Uber full-time? Uber shouldn't be done full-time and those who do are the ones taking jobs from taxi drivers. Shouldn't they, in this context, be the ones criticized for exploiting the apps system?
In this sense, the solution is simple. Stop doing Uber full-time and only Uber whenever you're free. That way, commuters will rely on Taxis whenever they can't get an Uber and vice versa. There will be no monopoly.
Now, the question is why they made this video. To push some sort of agenda, perhaps?
I am a full time driver in Vegas. Everything in this video is ABSOLUTELY TRUE!
I miss Vegas so much. Was born and raised there.
Poor soul.
I took my first ever Uber ride in Vegas on the way to the airport couple of years ago and spent the entire time questioning the driver who was so unhappy with her job and so incredibly overworked. I was never really a fan of it since it just seems like more cars but it was really interesting.
Taxi drivers in Vegas pre-uber were making great money. They still make more than Uber, but it's not the same like it used to be. Cash money.
Taxis are very expensive in Las Vegas. In addition, they often cheat people by taking longer routes to increase the fares. If you're not in the tourist areas it can take two hours to get a taxi at busy times.
Worked as uber eats drivers for a month, can confirm everything he said is true. That’s why I hate uber so much.
Uber Eats is a very different platform and service from Uber or Lyft.
@@WarofThoughts Dont just reply for the sake for saying something. Uber eats has the same business model as Uber, its the same company. I can’t believe I’d to lay that out for you.
Works for me I can make 100 every day from 11 to 5
@@djdontstop635 Are you subtracting the cost of gasoline from that number? Taxes? The absolute beating [depreciation] that your poor car is taking?
What's crazy about Uber eats is there have always been delivery drivers, but those drivers got paid with tips. Now these companies are taking a slice of a restaurant's profits for a service that has always existed.
i used to be an uber driver and this guy is dead on about it all, especially about the drivers being immigrants and other poor people stuck at the margins of a capitalist, rich get richer "society"
Walmart did it to local shops. Same for Amazon. Sadly, this isn't an original story. Running at a loss to monopolize market cap is the norm, if they have deep enough pockets.
Yep, capitalism 101, corner the market, raise the price.
That's one of the reasons Walmart failed in Germany. They tried to pull that shit there as well which is against German law (you cant sell products below buy-in price).
Independent bookstores were decimated by Crown Books and Barnes and Noble. Local organic markets ruined by Whole Foods. Rapacious corporations slash and burn all the time.
Uber is worse.
This is a capitalist society. For better or worse, companies driving other companies out of business is what comes with that. Businesses will always be in competition with each other to some degree. It's sad, but it's a fact of life. Taxi companies made room for UBER because when cabs were the only game in town, their prices were astronomical. It would be 5 dollars just to get in the car, just sitting in traffic would add up continuously, and you would often have to wait 30-45 minutes after calling one. So, when a company comes in, charges half the price, and can get to you much faster and track your ride, what would the average consumer do? Some companies compete and others are driven under. I'm not saying its right, but people vote with their wallets.
"company run by ai where their employees make below minimum wage" sounds like a dystopian sci-fi plot, not like something that would actually exist in real life.
Yeah, not like anything resembling a dystopian sci fi plot would ever exist in real life, right? 😢
@@flash_flood_area Yeah, I'm sorry to say but America has already entered it's dystopian age, and the only way to fight it, is to be enlightened of the current situation and act accordingly, instead of sitting there looking out the window, watching the world burn because the people you live with can't stand you making your own decisions if it doesn't involve buying something.
Capitalism is our living dystopia
aha hello truttle1
typical capitalism moment
Im an uber driver. Everything I'm hearing him say is true. It has a potential to be so awesome. In my area, either everyone is ordering and I'm busy or its just dead and I'm sitting in a parking lot. Trolling UA-cam. Lol
STFU You're just saying that so no more drivers will apply, because if they do that will mean LESS rides for YOU
@@alexortega714 You know nothing about me.
@@alexortega714 Gulag
drive in suburbs $50 to take someone to the airport for an hour isnt enough for you? 200 a day not enough to live on?
@@yesone5139 I wouldn't ride another human in my car. I'm Uber Eats. I'd love $50 for one delivery. Who makes $200/day cause I sure don't. I actually got 0 deliveries last night and the night before.
This guy hit it right on a dime I’m a Uber driver he he said everything right
So the Uber CEO makes $45 million a year yet his company hasn’t turned a profit yet?! That in a nut shell is what’s wrong with corporate America.
True ! 🤓
Not to mention the corporate gangsters cannot be held accountable just look at the Boeing Company taking 346 souls by purposely hiding information and pushing out an unsafe aircraft. Cost, schedule and shareholder value over quality & safety!
Lmao that is the reason why they cant turn a profit.
It's not the problem with corporate America, it's the problem with companies such as this. The vast majority of companies require positive cash flow in order for the C-suite to stay in their power, Uber does not punish them, but in turn keeps paying them endlessly.
@@bruceforest7986 oh there’s a problem with corporate America, just look at that cesspool the Boeing Company. A company destroyed by greed and worship of the shareholder value.
My wife and I used to drive for Uber. We would drive 3 hours a way to the busy sections of our state and sleep in our car for 2 days and then come home for a day and start over again. We still made below minimum wage
then why not get a minimum wage job?
Yea, well it took some time to figure out the numbers and we did end up changing. Lol that’s the point. It claims to be better than minimum wage, but it’s actually below it.
@@theredlogician4743 where does uber claim to be better than minimum wage?
So you want our pity because you commuted several hours to try to drive in cities whose roads, hotels, restaurants, airports, school zones, potholes, crime hotspots, bike lanes, nightlife, train crossings, flooding issues, and overall rhythms you weren’t familiar with? Are these areas in which you formerly lived longterm? If not, I feel bad for your passengers. Uber’s algorithms probably withheld the plum drives from you because it knew you weren’t cut out for them.
@@ibelieveicansoar what a fallacious response lol so many assumptions just to justify your continued position lol
This is why I never invested in Uber stock. They spend all their revenue on themselves, not their workers.
they never topped $60 a share in their history, they're at $46 today and still labeled as "overvalued"
I actually like how it turned out at the end:
In Lithuania Uber got competition from Bolt. Uber lowered the driver's cut - everyone went to drive Bolt. Now you have to wait for Uber forever, so everyone uses Bolt. If Bolt tries to do the same Yandex takes over. If every company pays poorly - new one appears.
At the end of the day - investors are the ones who will get burned, because the company has a negative P/E and as soon as it tries to increase it - it goes out of business. In reality the company is worth about few million max, because that's the cost of making an Uber clone.
People say they hate slavery until they find themselves in a position where they can use a slave
Uber doesn’t force anyone to work for them, there’s personal responsibility involved here.
@@gaaykamaans8761 yeah still sounds like and excuse to use a slave my dude
Ima use your comment as my bio
@@gaaykamaans8761 Yes but the system forces them to use it out of desperation .
@@gaaykamaans8761 I mean yes, every one certainly has the freedom to starve
Wow, so much corruption y’all didn’t even have to mention the outrageous price gouging that is Uber Eats.
@Melody Larsen
Ikr. I had a $25 gift card for them. I ordered one $8 chicken sandwich meal and ended up using the whole gift card on that order just for all the fees.
@@Window4503 And don't forget the bs they pull when they want you to pay for the monthly eats pass claiming it saves money by avoiding fees. Only to continue charging said fees because you didn't spend like $30 on an order before taxes.
@@Window4503 and that's just on your side, I work in a kitchen and Uber takes 30% of every order's price. That's on top of everything they're charging you! On some menu items that's practically more than our profit share.
I learned that from the drivers perspective. I used to drive normal uber and decided to see how uber eats paid, and it's so bad I literally have no idea how it's possible find drivers to do it.
@@MichelleHell have any of u guys done doordash cause I actually make decent money there
I am so grateful that I live in Vienna. A city with good public transportation. I don't have to give Uber a single penny.
Like everywhere, the moment you lock the front door and depart to "work", you are being conned.
What’s sad is that this isn’t just Uber. There’s an equivalent corporation in nearly every industry.
That's capitalism for ya.
This is what makes America the greatest country in the world. No really, you think this wasn’t planned? American politicians been lobbying for corporate rule for a LONG time.
Even the lollipop industry? Sucking the cities dry of competition?
Very informative, but please get rid of the annoying music
@@thomaskole9881 Actually that is exploitive capitalism. Like anything else there are shades of color on things. There are multiple forms of capitalism. In it's purist form capitalism has many advantages. It is when greed and power get the upper hand things go south. Just like anything else like journalism.
The fact that they try classifying their workers as independant contractors while paying their CEO 40 million is quite sad
Independent contracting in general is bullshit imo
This trick seems to be a favourite of late stage neoliberal capitalism. The oil industry in the US does the same thing were no one ever works directly for the people operating the well but instead are subcontractors of subcontractors so if an accident happens no one can be sued.
Well wait a minute. With something like Uber it’s abusive because you need to go through them. But if I’m a carpenter, welder, or shit a nuclear engineer I’m probably doing fine.
@@cokesucker9520 My personal take is that it's an unnecessary classification 90% of the time. Unless I'm missing something, there is no benefit to being an independent contractor. The only time it would be is if you were actually an independent contractor that worked for different companies doing the same type of work, but that isn't something that makes sense for a job that you work 40 hours at.
45 ...pal ... Bigger than Hollywood actors gets
I live in Spain and Uber, in my city, has failed because everything is just a quick walk or bike away.
Why urban planning in the US is hot garbage.
I only take cabs and always thank the cabbie for sticking around.
the problem is that in some areas theres artificial scarcity. I know new york is like that with taxis
I get extremely cautious when someone mentions "Freedom"
Freedom is a good thing, but the types of freedom right wingers want are those that crush the freedom of most people.
The freedom to allow the rich to crush the working class.
The freedom of slaveowners
@@frocco7125 >Freedom is a good thing
It's neither good, nor bad. Depends of what you are going to be freed from.
To conservatives and capitalists, the word "freedom," means you can be free to exploit and crush the working class and minorities without repercussions.
On 19 February 2021, the Supreme Court handed down a landmark judgment which confirmed that Uber drivers are workers and not independent contractors. A win for the UK
The same happened in the Netherlands today. Europeans are smart enough to see through Ubers bullshit.
@@sounz4u687 what
India too I believe
Sucks - in California in the last couple years Uber tricked millions of voters into passing legislation that made drivers 'independent contractors' using a deceptive method where for 'no' actually means 'yes'.
@@RBEmpathy of course. they want cheap unsafe transportation...
From an Uber driver: they’ve cut driver pay from 75% to 55%. Bad! Profit before people rather than the new world of people before profit.
Here's a term i learned years ago when fighting a taxi monopoly involving two companies working in the same office. "oligopoly" - " noun - An oligopoly is a market structure in which a market or industry is dominated by a small number of large sellers or producers ". Uber and Lyft, let's face it, they are the same BS
At this point Uber is no better than the taxis it replaced
Edit: whoops its way worse
From a riders pov uber is amazing!
@@user-ql8ji8dj9u That's great, Mr... 11235 81321. Odd name, guess it's foreign or something. \s
@John B it's already happened, in most places uber's prices are super high
@@user-ql8ji8dj9u It was nice for a while because Uber was getting the use of its workers' assets, their relatively nice cars, for free. That's over now, those that stay have worn out their cars now to the point they're no better than taxicabs used to be, although Uber still gets the use of them for no capital investment. You can't make a car with 300,000 miles be very nice.
@@johnnytwotimes7854 like where?
Oppression doesn’t just come from governments.
"bUt tHEy siGnEd uP vOLunTariLy fOr tHeiR jObs!"
-lolbertarians
To Prager U, the only way private corporations can ever be oppressive is if they enforce reasonable Terms of Service on their forums against people who believe in phrenology.
In this case, it’s coming from both the government and private corporations.
This is American capitalism. Big corps run the government
I don't drive.. & after watching this, I'll absolutely never call an Uber. Thank you for making these videos.
once, we called a UBER for my grandmother and told her what kind of car she was expecting. Then a similar car appeared and she entered. I don't know why, but I assume the driver was in a good mood and found the situation funny or confusing and just took her to her address. I've never had such a scare in my life, we thought she was kidnapped.
we never, never let her ride an UBER again.
Every word in this is absolutely true. I was stuck in a debt trap until the pandemic freed me. Uber and Lyft need to disappear.
Agreed. Me too. It’s insane!!!
Just use public transport lmao. Debt is self caused
Frankland ???????????????????????? Yes just don't go into debt * *ben shapiro voice* *
We have grab here instead of Uber and drivers love the company
@Max Inpains dude how did you do that when the car cost like 1/4th of that debt
Destroying what was never intended to be profitable and replacing it with something unprofitable just sounds American.
Edit: Grammar
Uber and Lyft should just be monopolized by the government.
I mean taxi services were profitable already tbf, they just also weren't utterly terrible jobs.
Uber is less prominent where i live in Europe, but thats because our urban planning doesn't actually suck, and i can litterally get to the other side of the country with only my bike and train.
Damn bro, the video animation was so sick! I really enjoyed the video. Please make more❤️
It irritates me when something like this or the Epic Store happens and idiots are suddenly up in arms at them for "doing capitalism wrong" failing to understand that this is capitalism working exactly as intended. Capitalism continues to exist only to facilitate abuse stories like this.
Epic store is a little different but I still liked the comment
@@jorayjoseph6442 I think the point is how people have reacted to the Epic Store, not anything about the store itself.
Or, Uber capitalized on the failure of regulators to produce a more competitive environment for registered cabs. Not saying that’s absolutely correct, but maybe you should step outside your own politics every now and then.
@@cokesucker9520 @Coke Sucker So if I understand correctly, you are saying that Uber saw that the regulators and cab industry weren't abusing their employees and were actually paying them a living wage, They saw that and thought "Hmmmm, we can make so much more money for us if we treated everyone else like crap... and so they went out to gather investment money from venture capitalist to make a once profitable industry into an unprofitable one for everyone except the higher ups and first time investors" Did i get it right?
@@jorayjoseph6442 I think what they meant is the government didn’t sufficiently de-regulate the cab industry so the cab industry could become a large uber type monopoly where workers get exploited into oblivion.
This isn't just uber. It's pretty much every gig economy app you'd care to name
Not %100 true. For example if you are working for Door Dash you probably won't end up driving to a city 4 hours way...so food delivery is much more reliable and puts less miles on your car...when I was my kid though..my dad said..."never be a pizza delivery man, your car will die..." Now it's wiser to be a pizza delivery man.
That was an eye opener for me. Very well presented and informative. I did find the music a little intrusive though.
Very True.. I myself was an Uber Driver for 2 years , but now recently quit due to poor rates for trips. Its not worth anymore.
I use to drive for these pirates years ago. I'm so grateful I'm not with them anymore.
Reporting in from a country where the Uber app is actually illegal as it's been judged to be the same thing as unregistered taxi. I hope you can axe them in the US soon.
What country is that?
@@irynakirtak-craig1890 regulation in the US goes like this, if it costs the elite money then they don't do it, but if it gets them votes and it doesn't cost the money they're all for it. This is why they are fine with having regulations around gay marriage and abortion and things like that, it doesn't cost them any money. But you want to provide healthcare or maternity leave or unemployment or something like that, well that costs money, can't do that.
This is exactly what Uber is-- an unregistered taxi. It's mind boggling that just because you use an app to book a ride that it's not considered a taxi company.
@@aaronbono4688 Denmark, Uber tried to argue that they weren't a taxi service and their drivers weren't employees so they don't need certification by the police. The courts interpreted that to mean that Uber was running an illegal taxi service and banned them. The taxi industry in Denmark is tightly regulated with regular inspections by the government in response to problems with fake taxis that robbed or assaulted their customers.
Cant unfortunately, the US is extremely reliant on cars to ride which are less and less affordable to more and more people who need them every year. Our public transit system is quite barren outside of the biggest cities. Even though Uber is cheaper than a taxi, a lot of people still struggle to afford even that. Our corrupt govt has sold us out an fixing one thing royally hurts a mass amount of everyday people one way or the other. We'd need sweeping multi level legislation to prevent collapses but that isn't likely to happen anytime soon.
Lol! I can’t speak about studies and researches, but I can talk about my experience. I am an Uber/lyft driver in NYC. Forget about 9$ an hour as mentioned here, I make 50$ an hour as of right now. This is because of unemployment benefits a lot of drivers are not working full time. But then before covid I had always made around 30$ per hour in NYC!
@Jason I think he means with what he makes from Uber plus unemployment.. and not considering his costs, like fuel, maintenance, insurance and taxes.
@Jason $50 before cost calculated, its possible during peak hours. I can hit that even before the pandemic. I know my friends are easily hitting over $50 per hour during the pandemic up to now. I can hit close to $100 per hour during peak massive bonus hours. I can't said the same for driving outside NYC though.
Thank you for your video,, in 2019 I drove Uber full-time and I wish I could educate more people on what an incredible scam it is,, the Uber corporation should be tried for war crimes
Speaking of unionizing, UC Graduate student researchers just turned in our signatures to unionize! Wish us luck with approval and the end vote.
Good luck.
I tried to unionize at my last job. Oddly I was literally the first person they laid off back in January. Wonder why...
It was a small MSSP, they got bought out by a bigger one thanks to Covid and laid off about a third of us.
I have no idea if they knew I was trying to unionize, and I couldn't prove they RIF'd me because of it even if they did know.
Go for it ! Who cares being fired !? Coz we are not making money but paying to drive with Uber !
Wishing all the best from NYU where they won☺️
best of luck!
Broke: gravel institute is replacing prageru by being actually true
Woke: gravel institute is replacing black mirror and the onion by being actually true
You can never replace the onion
@@ryanmacleod2749 America is slowly but surely rendering the onion obsolete
@@regem9121 it’s making it obsolete because the satire is now real
@@ryanmacleod2749 exactly
@HuskyOps ua-cam.com/video/XFoH8CuQBT4/v-deo.html
Surely because they sure as fuck knew how China would react to a pandemic.
He didn't even mention Uber's *Greyball program* a hidden feature in the app specifically designed to hinder local officials and law enforcement in cities where Uber was considered illegal.
Finally, someone clearly understand and help me explain these ride hailing app
I am a former cab driver and i would say the statement was very true. We as the gig workers really need to be united and biuld up our own union against scammers Thanks Gravel !
I agree . I want to help, how can we get this started.
I didn’t know this all, but I never used Uber. Always use regular taxis. I’m from the Netherlands, and taxi drivers here have done an exam. And are payed properly. Have social security and holidays and that stuff.
Here in Europe Uber is even partially or fully banned in a few countries
@@huldanoren951 Yeah Denmark ended up banning them because they tried to do the "our drivers aren't employees so we don't have to provide paid holidays and other benefits" and the court saw right through that bullshit and told to fuck off. They were also trying to claim that they aren't a taxi service so their drivers don't require certification by the police which just meant that the courts deemed them to be an illegal taxi service.
Same ik gun ze ook niet
And that is a reason why Uber failed in a lot of European countries (naturally not in the UK because the UK loves to adopt bad ideas from the US). The German courts were VERY clear that they didn't appreciate the attempt to subvert our rules
@Women Respecter The long time costs for allowing Uber to take over your market are way higher. Btw, this is why walmart likewise failed in German. They actually thought that they could undercut the competition. But in Germany's (already highly competitive) retail market, it is forbidden to just sell stuff to a loss in order to push the competition out of the way. They though that they could spy on their workers, enforce american work culture on them and add all kind of invasice rules. Also forbidden (well, the pledge in the morning was technically allowed, but when customers and workers learned about that one, they were completely weirded out by the notion)
Thanks for this perspective. Never thought about that. I live in Dundee where we do not have Uber. The reason being ‘to support taxi driver and companies’. I’ve always criticised the city for not having Uber, not anymore.
They are banned in about 10 countries for that exact reason...
I'm going to open up a grocery store, where the people who stock the shelves have to bring in their own pallets of canned corn to sell, but I get a cut of every sale they make. I'm such an innovative genius. Give me money.
This!! I will use this for my dum so he can understand. I go to work. Park my car. Walk into a building for 8 hours. He uses his car and isn't subsidized for it.
That’s literally what a grocery store is. Food companies like Doritos and Coca-Cola purchase shelf space and bring in their products, and then sell them and pocket the money. Are you suggesting the grocery stores just give them the space and operate as a charity to Big Food?
@@WarofThoughts The grocery store you go to makes the stockers buy all the food with their own money before they put it on the shelf? Weird.
@@frigginjerk No, Coca-Cola, Budweiser, and other companies stock the shelves themselves and they purchase the space to sell their product. Grocery stores don't buy all that food and then try to sell it themselves.
@@WarofThoughts Actually, buying the items themselves and reselling them is exactly how grocery stores operate. I worked at one for several years, as one of the store's employees who was responsible for taking items out of the stockroom and putting them on the shelves. I definitely spent my time there doing something and getting paid for it by the store that employed me. Surely you've been in a store and seen someone dressed in a shirt with the store's logo on it, putting something onto the shelf.
In any case, this isn't the point. If you still don't like the metaphor of a store where the shelf-stockers have to supply the good for sale at their own expense, then we can use a different one. Let's say instead that I'm going to start the Uber of restaurants. The chefs will have to bring in their own food to prepare and ovens to use, dishwashers have to supply their own soap, and the front-of-house employees have to bring in their own tables and chairs for the customers. As the boss, I'm not responsible for any of these costs, since all I'm doing is providing a platform for restaurant staff to connect to restaurant patrons.
Uber "disrupted" the taxi industry by being a taxi that for some reason isn't considered a taxi by regulations, so it's not a fair playing field.
I feel like this video didn't lead to a transparent conclusion. Their theory relies heavily on the fact that there are people willing to do Uber full-time. Ever since the app's conception, I have never viewed the idea of Uber as a consistent source of profit and I believe the majority thought this way. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Uber-ing a choice? Isn't it unfair to conclude that Uber exploits its drivers when it's their choice to Uber full-time? Uber shouldn't be done full-time and those who do are the ones taking jobs from taxi drivers. Shouldn't they, in this context, be the ones criticized for exploiting the apps system?
In this sense, the solution is simple. Stop doing Uber full-time and only Uber whenever you're free. That way, commuters will rely on Taxis whenever they can't get an Uber and vice versa. There will be no monopoly.
Now, the question is why they made this video. To push some sort of agenda, perhaps?
@@JsJdv LMAO why did you spam this UNDER EVERY COMMENT? The first time I saw it, I thought it was genuine but I'm increasingly thinking it's not
There is a reason why uber failed in Germany...they thought that they could pull the same tricks there and just ignore the various regulations. German courts intervened and made it very clear that worker rights and protection and the need for a proper transport license are NOT optional.
@@swanpride The number of times Germany see those BS from far away makes me respect Germany so much. It sounds like gouvernment actually cares about you guys. They are ahead in a lot of laws that helps the people and what they want. Is Germany seems like an awesome country.
@@alexandreparent5754 Honestly, it is less that the government cares so much and more that we had a couple of leaders in the past which recognized that some things are for the advantage of the economy. Like, our biggest Prussian king introduced schooling for everyone and freedom of religion not because he was so social, but because he recogniced that he would get better soldiers this way and that a country surrounded by enemies couldn't afford to feud within its own borders. Bismarck introduced the first social system not because he cared so much about workers, but because he wanted to undermine our social democrats. Our conservatives implementen a social market economy again not because they were in any way bleeding heart types, but because the did the math an realised that a well-educated and healthy population makes for a better and more productive workforce. A lot of what we have was born out of necessity, and once it was implemented, well, it's hard to take away social programs once they have been implemented.
Holy fucking shit. This really puts some perspective on these new "techy" models of capitalism. Thanks a again for such a well put essay
Techy capitalism is a lot like 19th century robber baron capitalism, but with algorithms and CEOs in sweat pants instead of suits and Pinkertons.
the only "innovation" under capitalism is new ways to exploit labour or be more ruthless. amazon has the same market strategy as uber btw except on a larger scale.
I feel like this video didn't lead to a transparent conclusion. Their theory relies heavily on the fact that there are people willing to do Uber full-time. Ever since the app's conception, I have never viewed the idea of Uber as a consistent source of profit and I believe the majority thought this way. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Uber-ing a choice? Isn't it unfair to conclude that Uber exploits its drivers when it's their choice to Uber full-time? Uber shouldn't be done full-time and those who do are the ones taking jobs from taxi drivers. Shouldn't they, in this context, be the ones criticized for exploiting the apps system?
In this sense, the solution is simple. Stop doing Uber full-time and only Uber whenever you're free. That way, commuters will rely on Taxis whenever they can't get an Uber and vice versa. There will be no monopoly.
Now, the question is why they made this video. To push some sort of agenda, perhaps?
@@JsJdv oh yeah it's their choice between driving for Uber for less money every month or to just starve. So much freedom
@@JsJdv You must be the new "rider outreach representative" for Uber.
You are the best human being explained about Uber greedy company. Make a video again and again. We respect you
federal tax deduction for vehicle use is 65 cents a mile, Uber pays drivers 69 cents...if every driver deducted the full amount for mileage, you'd find that the American taxpayer is subsidizing drivers while the company pockets the rest. And they're registered off shore, so they don't even pay taxes like your local taxi company used to.
How do I know Uber is scamming me? I worked for Uber as a driver. I got scammed.
I'm not a driver but they scammed me too.
Uber in NYC in 2017 "quick rides at cheaper prices than yellow cabs"
Uber in NYC in 2021 "takes 15 minutes just to find a ride in Midtown Manhattan so you can pay anywhere from 30-200% more for the same ride from a yellow cab (the same ones that pass you by while youre waiting for your Uber).
but yet you aren't waving the yellow cab
@@kei2142 nah mate, I take public transport now that I'm vaxxed. 2.75 to get you anywhere in the city is a pretty good deal compared to Uber or taxis for that matter.
My issue with Uber is that when it was convenient it was okay. Now that the drivers know how to game the algorhythm it has lost whatever aspect of convenience it once had. Long waits for a ride that's at least twice as much as a taxi isnt a sustainable business model in NYC. The fact that theyve lost a ton of drivers due to Covid only compounds their issues.
Thankfully I make around 25 -30 per hour in SoCal after prop. 22 guaranteed minimum wage
Some Uber drivers choose not to make much money driving Uber to keep from losing their government assistance.
Driving Uber has help some poor and homeless people living in their cars and Couldn't get a job with a traditional employer . Uber is a decent supplemental income. A person can't get rich from driving Uber but it's enough to keep someone afloat until they are able to find something better.
"But your card said 'no more exploitation!'"
"Oh they must have gotten this all wrong... *No, more exploitation!* "
Punctuation matters.
I feel like this video didn't lead to a transparent conclusion. Their theory relies heavily on the fact that there are people willing to do Uber full-time. Ever since the app's conception, I have never viewed the idea of Uber as a consistent source of profit and I believe the majority thought this way. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Uber-ing a choice? Isn't it unfair to conclude that Uber exploits its drivers when it's their choice to Uber full-time? Uber shouldn't be done full-time and those who do are the ones taking jobs from taxi drivers. Shouldn't they, in this context, be the ones criticized for exploiting the apps system?
In this sense, the solution is simple. Stop doing Uber full-time and only Uber whenever you're free. That way, commuters will rely on Taxis whenever they can't get an Uber and vice versa. There will be no monopoly.
Now, the question is why they made this video. To push some sort of agenda, perhaps?
@@JsJdv I think they addressed it when they talked about how it seems like you have the freedom to work when/how you want but uber punishes drivers for not accepting rides.
@@JsJdv I agree with your perspective. I drive Uber on the side and I personally find it to be a quite lucrative and flexible source of extra money. The app doesn't "punish" you for not taking rides. But if you are logged onto the app available to take rides and your continuously refusing ride requests that are coming through, then your acceptance rate drops and if it drops too low, then you will be kicked off the app. That makes sense because when you log into the app, it is saying that you are available to accept rides. If you're not going to take rides, then don't log on. Personally, I accept all rides, because you never know where each ride will lead.
And you are also correct that UBER is a choice. I'll be completely honest, I know people who quit their full time jobs to become full time UBER drivers. If you are a person who really likes to drive and can drive 8,9,10 hours a day, then you can make a very healthy income and you have the option to cash out immediately. I personally know UBER drivers who have made 4,5,6 thousand a month. I knew one guy who drove all the time and made 78,000 a year. But if you are driving like that, be prepared to pay your car off quick and to replace it with another.
The downside of course is you dramatically shorten the lifespan of your vehicle, you are responsible for any car repairs or general damage done to your vehicle. If you are full time, you have to drive alot and manage your money carefully. I do think UBER takes too large of a percentage out of the rides generally, but it is not so much that the driver doesn't make a profit. I generally make 5x the amount of fuel I put into the car for rides. I personally can't blame UBER for their business model, because as you mentioned, at the end of the day, it is a person's decision to download the app and choose to drive and they can stop anytime they want.
@@robertwinslade3104 By this logic, doesn't anyone who is employed by any business run the risk of losing their income if they don't do what the job entails? That is the very nature of being employed. As far as not having time to search for a better job, I can't agree with that. Most jobs have online applications and a person can drive Uber anytime of the day for any amount of hours. A person can spend two or three hours a day just submitting their resume online if the want. No one has to be "trapped" in any place. It's ultimately about mindset.
I am not saying UBER is the perfect company, I definitely think it does take too much of a ride and that it doesn't do enough for drivers who run into serious problems with their passengers, but to say one is underpaid when the amount you make is proportionate to how much driving you are doing, I can't really put that on UBER.
"Ride sharing" used to meant giving your friends a ride. And scams like this are why I still always try to give friends without cars a ride instead of having them use an Uber.
good man
@@outtarespecttomyfawtha1589 woman in my case…
Dont do this. If you do accident, your friend will open case on you and you are going to pay his family or him a fortune.
@@buraktepe6683 You must have terrible friends. :(
Ubers' game plan isn't just about replacing taxi companies, it's also about replacing public transport and low mileage privately owned cars.
I'm watching this video whilst taking a rider in an Uber. Sweet irony, but never again.
I can screenshot this with your full name and get you fired for distracted driving
@@rameezkhan7911 Do you know what taking a ride means, genius? Or don't they teach you logic and comprehension in Pakistan/Afghanistan?
Clearly a Pakistani driver with no opportunity except Uber and trying to act smart on comment threads. Run along, balti boy.
@@mariasolina5178 lmao 🤣 I wish trump was back he knows how to take care of illegals like u
When will there be a college football game between Gravel Institute and Prager University
Never because prager U would get completly dismantled
I'd start following sports, for the first time in my life, for that.
@@davidegaruti2582 imagine 5'3 Ben Shabeebass playing football
@@austin5944 i just imagine him trashtalking the guy in front of him , then getting destroyed
@@davidegaruti2582 "hypothetically speaking, there is a .2% I will complete this play"
good to see the quality of the videos are getting higher and higher and prager u is stagnating
Prageru's videos are actually getting worse, which honestly seemed impossible. Pretty impressive!
" Stagnating " yet it still gets more and more views than this ever will 😂
@@yeajdje1693 so I was right about my suspicions that the average Prager U fan was illiterate
@@yeajdje1693 because they spend a shit ton on marketing because they have massive big money backers. Unfortunately they don't spend a cent on knowing what the fuck they're talking about 😕
@@charnixgaming And it looks like the average Gravel fan can't do basic math.
Sir, your report was AWESOME! Keep up the GREAT work!
Surge pricing! What a stellar concept! They wait at the local airport until a plane lands, all but one driver 'shuts down' and prices go from $15 to $75 in a few minutes.
*Uber is scamming you*
"Ah yes, the floor is made out of floor"
Uber is such a scam
based soshellist
lol
Every where I go I see you turtle
And people who works with in a Uber as well . SCUMS .
Best video yet, let's fucking go!
I agree. :D
This is one of the best channels that I have ever found on youtube
With so called booking fee or market fee, Uber can take whatever percentage of what riders pay and it means they always get more then the drivers in short rides.
Just a "few" video suggestions in no particular order:
What the United States could learn from Canada/Europe/the Soviet Union or some other "socialist" country
Is socialism inherently authoritarian?
How Mao and Stalin polluted our image of socialism
How bad was the Soviet Union really?
The British Empire was an evil empire
The scar of colonialism on Africa
Why Africa still is poor
The truth about the European refugee crisis
Why nationalism is dangerous and why it's coming back
How international cooperation saved war-torn Europe
Should the world's remaining monarchies be abolished?
Why today's China isn't communist
What is going on in Xinjiang, China?
Is Donald Trump a fascist?
What does Joe Biden actually believe?
The real reason the United Kingdom left the EU and why it shouldn't have
Has socialism never worked?
How unequal is the world really?
Could Jeff Bezos end world hunger?
Why immigration is good for the economy
Reform or revolution?
Why the class war is important
Why capitalism doesn't cause innovation
The historical success of anarcho-communism
Yes, communism has been tried, and not in the place you'd expect (Catalonia)
Why climate change is urgent
Eco-socialism could be the answer to climate change
If we don't remove the world's nuclear arsenal immediately, we are doomed
The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were needless atrocities
Could the First World War have been prevented?
How the aftermath of World War I led to communist revolutions in Russia and Germany
What makes a successful revolution?
How did Hitler rise to power?
How did Stalin rise to power?
How the Nazis used propaganda to indoctrinate the people of Germany
How do ordinary people become monsters?
Why is the US military budget so large?
What could we do with $700 billion?
Why Norway has such a low recidivism rate
Why we need to defund the police
Why we need a world federation
Why space exploration is important
Why are American conservatives so scientifically illiterate?
What would a unified Korea mean for Korea and the world?
Is socialism at fault in Venezuela?
The extent of American imperialism
Why the CIA is a terrorist organization
Why did the Soviet Union collapse?
The Red Scare and its consequences
Hope you liked my ideas!
Suggest these to Viki 1999 or Bad Empanada.
@@jackiecooper9439 bruh cringe
@@jackiecooper9439 Bad Empanada is just fine.
The Stalin and mao takes is that the numbers are conflated. They werent dictators. Stalin was a bad dude but he was voted in and voted against and had checks and balances. We should learn from stalin good and bad. His policies economically boosted ussr to its heights in the 50s and 60s. Like its astonishing. Khrushchev era and space race would be nothing had it not been for stalin. Ussr was actually had very good quality of life. Theres era of ussr. People usually just point to the 30s and 40s. Khrushchev legit had destalinization. reforming and repealing his policies.Stalin never tackled cultural issues like womens rights or racism. Theres nuance to stalin. so i dont think they taint socialism. It aint shiny and we must accept that. Socialism makes fixing issues of economy and cultural issues because profit isnt the driving factor. But that doesnt mean racism or war or even imperialism and shadiness will fix it. Look at what ussr was doin in middle east to have oil security to avoid a crisis. Look at what china is doing to africa. And what they are doing to muslims. Socialism isnt shiny. But stalin is one of the reasons why socialism is feared. Im just adding my 2 cents. I know these are just questions.
@@sungod1384 Found the Tankie
You forgot "scam restaurants" Taking 30% from someone who prepared meal you deliver is the worst deal for any restaurant!
I made a video on this a couple years ago, but this is much more detailed, thank you
This is true , I lived in a heavy populated area , did Uber for 3 weeks, I literally slept in my car to give it my best effort to see how much money I can make.At the end of it all, I only made enough to put gas back in my car I burnt in the first place , definitely not worth it
Another example as to why public transit would be much better if it was improved
@John B Other countries have made the transition though. Denmark in the 50s and 60s was going in the same direction as the US but the oil crisis lead to a complete shift in policy towards public transit and biking, it's why Denmark has historically had an almost 300% tax on cars.
Honestly the fact that Prop 22 passed in California majorly shook my faith in humanity. If tech companies could write their own laws here and people will uncritically vote for them in what is supposedly the US’s most left-wing state, what hope do we have in the rest of the country, or the world at large?
What Nick said. California is the most _liberal_ state, but liberal and left-wing are not the same thing. Liberalism is largely a centrist ideology. Actual leftists are almost unrecognizable to most people in the US.
Nick Arjoma Yeah hence the “supposedly”. That’s how the media presents Cali during election seasons, but yeah it’s far from the reality. The whole of central California is very Republican, for example. Still I would say that if you were to measure the amount of “leftiness” in every US state somehow, CA would probably at least be above average. It’s still not a good sign for the rest of the country that Prop 22 passed here. No doubt other tech giants are gonna try to pull similar moves in other US states
The reason it passed was because of the amount of money this companies poured into spreading propaganda. I remember there was a time here in California where you couldn't go 5 minuets without getting an add to vote yes on 22. Didn't matter if you were watching UA-cam, Tv, or listening to your radio in the car.
@@arbis.818 Yeah I know, I live in California too so I was seeing it everywhere. It's just really disheartening that just throwing so much money at it actually worked
The Uber money was spent on disinformation. Most people thought they were voting YES to help drivers.
Wow.....A very informative,educational and much needed kind of video.Will definitely spread ur word 😉👍👏
The other day I took an Uber. The ride was 45 minutes so we chatted. He began to brag. He told me he makes unemployment from the job he was laid off from, $300 additional unemployment, all the stimulus money and he drives FT for Uber. I asked him how he was drawing unemployment when he is working full time. He said EASY! I'm on contract and basically self employed so I don't report it! I said well at least you have done well financially and was able to pay all your expenses. He laughed and said No, I haven't paid rent this whole time and because I'm unemployed I qualify for Rental Assistance.
As I stepped out of his 2021 vehicle I said, but you are employed full time with Uber. He flipped me off as he drove away.
I will never use this service again. I will call a cab which is now far cheaper then uber or lyft.
My aunt got laid off from her job and was forced to drive for driving apps like Uber for a long time. I cannot imagine the shit those companies have put her through
How can someone make forced someone to drive ?😂
@@alejandromarvelarcanghel2650 No opportunity to get money elsewhere? She could just choose to go on welfare perhaps... would that be preferable?
@@iverbrnstad791 but not forced to drive.. We all have brains and we can have options.
Uber is so frequently held up as a shining example of tech innovation, it's nice to see the simple math being laid out so clearly.
Thats why a swiss court has decided that uber driver are actually not independent conratractor but have to be treated as employees with pensions and everything.
Im surprised how he knows so much about this, i almost thought he was driver at one point like us. Amazing
Or he was someone like me who was looking in from the outside.
A comment sacrifice for the algorithm god
a follow up sacrifice for the a l g o r i t h m
my reply will also go to the gods
All hail the algorithm
Praise be
We all gotta make sacrifices for the greater good
You guys haven’t had captions on your last three videos. i love this channel but I am deaf and can’t understand what they are saying
will add them right now! and they'll be in all future videos going forward. so sorry about that!
I'm sure they'll get on it. They're pretty responsive. Thanks for calling that out.
just added them! so sorry about that, we'll make 100 percent sure they're in all future videos.
If you have Chrome installed on a laptop or desktop, you can turn on live captions. Just go to the Settings and type "live caption" on the search bar!
I have heard the wear and tail on the car does not even cover it. This is like pizza delivery drivers and newspaper delivery drivers getting screwed. Which driver group gets it worse.
Making matters worse, rideshare services like Uber are often used as an excuse to avoid funding public transit. Whenever local and state governments debate new light rail lines, "Why do we need this when we have Uber?" is a question that is always asked. Relying on rideshare is a horrible idea, as it does nothing for congestion or polution, and no one who requires public transit will be able to afford Uber on a daily basis.
*This is the video version of my thesis, also to add I love how you added the fact the Uber drivers cannot reject too many rides and how obsolete they treat their drivers despite needing them*
thesis? Like for an a bachelors or masters?
I've been saying this for months; why on Earth is this company that cuts _every single possible corner_ while still not being profitable, still being championed as some great innovator? I thought I was alone on this because no one I knew had thought about the insanity of Uber's business model, but y'all have my back with this video now. Thanks for that!
massive salaries for executives and they spend millions buying off politicians GREAT VIDEO
Antitrust
The crazy thing is people never wanted to be drivers several years ago. No one ever wanted to be a glorified taxi cab or pizza delivery driver NOW everyone wants to be a driver because they think they're going to be making loads of money.
it's because many of them need a second, third or even fourth job and Uber is the only one that fits their schedule