I was really surprised when I saw that the Messer was fighting Gustav Karls, I was convinced it was gonna go against some jegans. Instead, the jegans had to be relegated to other small duties like firefighting and policing.
I really appreciate you talking about and showing the techniques involved in modifying kits. They're useful to have in the back of my head for my own builds.
Since the launch of the MGEX Unicorn we were seeing better engineering in some of the recent model kits. Even if I wasn't interested in the Unicorn I think it was a good thing. I really liked this HG, I hope build it soon
@@jasonarigoni372 Thank you so much! This made my day and I went to my local hobby store today to look at models and nothing interested me. Now I have a model to look forward to :)
I'm really digging this. Would love to make me a custom out of one. Also hope this kit proves to be successful. I'd love to see them do it as an RE100.
Any idea when USA Gundam Store or really the US in general is getting this kit? I can't wait for this. Really hoping for a Zaku III Revive as well, chunky Mobile Suits are the best.
At the moment they were hoping for a late July drop for Messer but, since we are at the end of the month its been moved for an expected August arrival.
@@revytwohands9959 I'm aware. Because I was originally told my USAGS that the shipments were still on schedule at the beginning of last month but yet here we are. Oh well. My backlog is big enough already.
The legs *should* be thicker if you refer to the original artwork for the suit. I assume by the re-designation and naming of this one the one with different leg design might show up later and be a different kit.
How long do you wait after applying the cement before pushing the parts together? Everytime I try, I don't get enough of the plastic squeezing out from the seem.
An impressive kit. Annoyed tho of the eye guard is right in the middle where your forced to position the eye anywhere besides the middle. Would have preferred it’s visor more like the kampfer
can we just have like a small video complition of Gunpla hacks if one day you ran out of gunpla to review? that will be useful and I don't mind by adding the existing paint-stand station and the seamline removal also into the compilation
Im working on the old 1/60 Wing Zero NG. Im pretty much going to have to slice the knee joints in half as they connect the top and bottom of the legs with two polycaps in them.
hey @zakuaurelius man do you think you could make a seam line removal video, for both options, wether if you were going to paint the kit, or not. do you see that possible? also, i am waiting for those new tutorials you promised haha!
I don't know the name of the channel cause it's japanese and i dont understand a thing, but there was a Nappa custom build of this kit i got recommended by youtube.
Have a question, I'm still new to painting and I was wondering if it's normal to use up a whole bottle of paint on a single kit for like the main color? Maybe I just didn't understand completely how much paint I need but I just wanna make sure I'm not wasting paint.
@@ZakuAurelius does that apply for MG's too? Just using standard size as an example I understand that a more bulky and bigger design would probably use more bottles.
The UC had a mobile suit size creep going on up to Hathaway's Flash, which is what the Messer is from. Suits were getting bigger and bigger--compare the RX-78 to Zeta to ZZ to Nu Gundam for instance. The Gustav Karl, Messer, Xi, and Penelope were kinda the endpoint of that size creep before things snapped back the other way with the Formula series and into Victory Gundam.
TBH a lot of the bulky MS is really boring in model kit form....like Gustav, Virtue, Seravee, GP02 etc....they feel the same to me because they're too bulky and not much they can do in HG form. The only thing that impressed me is that torso articulation and that's about it.
The FAZZ will be a much higher price. Nu and Saz are both very good models and I do recommend both of them. I’d recommend the FAZZ if you don’t care much about articulation, it’ll mostly just stand there and look badass.
MG Fazz is big boi, its filled with accesories. RG nu and RG sazabi is one of the best rg i've ever seen. I'd recommend Rg nu + sazabi tbh. FAZZ ver ka is kinda pricey and you can get both of those with fazz's price
Seems to be a very limited first run. No one has this kit available and only a few places are taking pre-orders. If I had to guess it's because the film has been delayed.
Tamiya thin cement is wicking and also has a capillary function. Instead of doing all that for removing a seam line, sand the interior elbow joint to have a better forearm connection, then with everything assembled, draw some Tamiya extra thin on the arm seam. Let it dry, scrape off the seam line and sand it down. Even for a full paint job, that much part modification isn’t necessary. Dry fit and sand the parts to get tolerance, paint the elbow parts, prime and paint the forearm parts, assemble, then sand down the forearm seam, use the Tamiya cement, mask and repaint over the seam. Done. No weakening of the joint, drilling or clipping is needed for a paint job. Or hell, sand it down and scribe it for an actual panel line in the dry-fit stage. Seemed more like a product placement for USA Gstore tools. Which, by all means, everyone should get stuff through them. Good store.
I didn’t wanna have to mask. This didn’t take very long at all, and I don’t really care about the joint durability being slightly lessened because once my kits are painted I leave them in one pose 🤷♂️
I'm confused by the lack of polycaps. When Bandai invented polycaps they were a solution to all the problems with falling pieces. Now they tell us the there are no polycaps in a kit like if it's something good! So...what's happening? Bandai regrets their polycaps? Why? How do they solve the problems with legs and arms falling without caps? I don't know how do they sold that problems without the help of rubber.
I talked about this during the live stream build. I never got why it was a good or bad thing to have polycaps or not. If the kit stays together and does what it’s supposed to then whatever!
@@ZakuAurelius Maybe Bandai is just doing experiments. I don't have problems with policaps either...but only if they are not exposed directly. I dont' understand why Bandai choose to change this thing again...maybe the kit is less expensive for them to produce...I don't know.
The Messer is designed by Anaheim Electronics, who also made the Marasai for the Titans, so it's consistent in that sense. More specifically they engineered it from the Geara Doga which Anaheim had did the manufacturing work on for the 2nd Neo-Zeon. In-narrative, they deliberately went with a very Zeonic look when the terrorist cell Mafty commissioned them to design a mobile suit for them. Basically yet another tick in the tally for Anaheim working both sides that would eventually lead to the Federation trying to dump them entirely for the in-house SNRI thinktank
@@dylanv9463 It's not entirely clear if Anaheim designed the Geara Doga for the Neo Zeon, but it's explicitly stated they were given the manufacturing contract for it, so they had the data to use for subsequent projects and Anaheim wasn't above misappropriating data given to them in confidence. IIRC Char gave them the basics for the psychoframe and Nu Gundam knowing they would leak it to Londo Bell and Amuro. Once the Federation began playing favorites with the SNRI, manufacturing work was the best Anaheim could get for a long while- the SNRI would be given all the lucrative R&D work while Anaheim would assemble the results or develop cheaper mass production models. Ex while the SNRI had the Formula Project, Anaheim was stuck with the scraps of creating the Heavygun, G-Cannon, Jamesgun and Javelin over those decades with large gaps of nothing in between as the Federation fell into a habit of overusing a generation for far too long. They were still mainlining Javelins by the time Zanscare invaded in the UC150's, and by then the Javelin was a 20 year old design and thus grossly underperforming against anything Zanscare made. In that example Anaheim would find business by sponsoring League Militaire much like how they did the AEUG back during the Gryps War- developing for them the Victory Gundams and the Gun-EZ/Gunblaster.
i don't know if the creator did this mobile suit justice if they made the rear boosters great parts to use as boobs for your robot.... if it get one i'll replace it with a custom backpack to look like an ibo ahab reactor instead :c
Honestly, I think that shot of the box size is doing more to sell me on this kit than the kit itself. :D The resin kit you mentioned, is it based on the original design(s), or is it a recent resin kit of this movie(?) version of the design?
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Loved the Messer fighting the Gustav Karls in the movie.
Nice, bulky, suits fighting under gravity. One of the best MS fights in UC.
I was really surprised when I saw that the Messer was fighting Gustav Karls, I was convinced it was gonna go against some jegans. Instead, the jegans had to be relegated to other small duties like firefighting and policing.
The mix of Zeon visual cues is very intentional by AE in the lore.
In an effort to hide that they made the mobile suit
I really appreciate you talking about and showing the techniques involved in modifying kits. They're useful to have in the back of my head for my own builds.
It's rare to see a grunt suit kit to be better than the gundam one.
Thicc boi chad messer is the proof
It's almost the perfect blank canvas. Got one on the way, tearing the backpack and fuel tanks off the RG Shitanju , this thing is going to be epic!
Since the launch of the MGEX Unicorn we were seeing better engineering in some of the recent model kits. Even if I wasn't interested in the Unicorn I think it was a good thing. I really liked this HG, I hope build it soon
come back after watching the movie , such a beast design of a mobile suit
Love how this mobile suit looks! Already had it wishlisted, still looking forward to building one some day :)
Personally haven’t seen Hathaway’s Flash yet, but I’m a HUGE fan of this MS design. Definitely going to get this one at some point soon.
i still remember a youtuber who assemble the head backward, and he says "big boobs"
do you got a link?
@@schaksi631 judging by the amount of time that has passed i’m guessing he doesnt
The engineering on this will probably be a precedent for the Xi Gundam's. Excited for that.
I can wait to compare the Xi Gundam to the Penelope
When is the Xi gundam coming out?
@@lebleuhero1089 hasn't been announced yet, we just know it's coming eventually bc of the hathaway movies
@@lebleuhero1089 April 2021!
@@jasonarigoni372 Thank you so much! This made my day and I went to my local hobby store today to look at models and nothing interested me. Now I have a model to look forward to :)
Ab crunch joint is great, very seamless and flushed on the lower back when moving.
I'm really digging this. Would love to make me a custom out of one. Also hope this kit proves to be successful. I'd love to see them do it as an RE100.
Saw a guy turned his into Napa, pretty nuts.
@@joshuahensley9395 I saw that video also. I don't mean something as complicated as all that.
ohh nice i was curious about your take on this kit! great video as always!
Damn the right shoulder
Thank you for showing me to how remove the seam line on the elbow.
The thruster and his back reminds me of a chameleon eyes. O_O
in Hathaway's Flash the Messer is like the rival to the Gustav Karl as in they fight each other, so it's THICC BOI VS THICC BOI, lol.
Like a sumo match
@@ZakuAurelius I can't believe that you predicted the way how Messer fights the Gustav Karl's in hand to hand combat in the movie
@@va5780me too
Thanks for the seam line removal tip!
I really do appreciate the seam removal tips!
Man this got some Geara Doga vibe in it, i'm digging it!
that's because in-universe it is considered a variant of the Geara Doga.
@@vustvaleo8068In Wiki, it's also said that it also developed after Sazabi.
Any idea when USA Gundam Store or really the US in general is getting this kit? I can't wait for this. Really hoping for a Zaku III Revive as well, chunky Mobile Suits are the best.
At the moment they were hoping for a late July drop for Messer but, since we are at the end of the month its been moved for an expected August arrival.
Yeah its a little ironic. Sponsored by USAGundamshop but they still don't have it available. Bleh.
@@EvilCerealBoX Well that's not really in ZA's control there. Its all on USAGS as a business to handle that for the most part.
@@revytwohands9959 I'm aware. Because I was originally told my USAGS that the shipments were still on schedule at the beginning of last month but yet here we are. Oh well. My backlog is big enough already.
@@EvilCerealBoX Yea the same has happened with me there too so, I know what you mean. And yes, my backlog ultra bad here too 😂
The legs *should* be thicker if you refer to the original artwork for the suit. I assume by the re-designation and naming of this one the one with different leg design might show up later and be a different kit.
Nasty looking fellow. I love it!!
can't wait to get mine. well it usually took around 2-3 months for shipping and custom until I can get it.. another long wait
I really like this design. Getting this one!
I hope they release the F02 as well. I like the look of it better.
In the movie those back skirts are air breaks so the mobile suit can slow down as it’s falling.
How long do you wait after applying the cement before pushing the parts together? Everytime I try, I don't get enough of the plastic squeezing out from the seem.
The back trusther nozzles should have more movement angle, else it's not make sense to do the cover open and close like that.
An impressive kit. Annoyed tho of the eye guard is right in the middle where your forced to position the eye anywhere besides the middle. Would have preferred it’s visor more like the kampfer
I still looking forward to the hg rx-78-2 beyond global, i am not which one i going to choose revive or this one.
When is the movie coming out again?
Gene Stella Tears spot on the background..
Coming~
I want this to be a master grade
Does this should be the jarja
can we just have like a small video complition of Gunpla hacks if one day you ran out of gunpla to review? that will be useful and I don't mind by adding the existing paint-stand station and the seamline removal also into the compilation
im pleasantly surprised it does not have any polycaps
Im working on the old 1/60 Wing Zero NG. Im pretty much going to have to slice the knee joints in half as they connect the top and bottom of the legs with two polycaps in them.
If the spiked shoulder comes in duplicate, I wanna double up.
hey @zakuaurelius man do you think you could make a seam line removal video, for both options, wether if you were going to paint the kit, or not. do you see that possible?
also, i am waiting for those new tutorials you promised haha!
You could do this and not paint the kit!
I don't know the name of the channel cause it's japanese and i dont understand a thing, but there was a Nappa custom build of this kit i got recommended by youtube.
I saw two Gene in the background.
Indeed!
I don't buy many hg kits but I really want this 😭
Have a question, I'm still new to painting and I was wondering if it's normal to use up a whole bottle of paint on a single kit for like the main color? Maybe I just didn't understand completely how much paint I need but I just wanna make sure I'm not wasting paint.
For an HG like this, one bottle per color needed will be more than enough. Only time I’ve used more than a full bottle was painting a megasize
@@ZakuAurelius does that apply for MG's too? Just using standard size as an example I understand that a more bulky and bigger design would probably use more bottles.
Still waiting on mine from usags... :/
I believe they just got it in or will this coming week
This kit is THICC
Hmmm.... can u switch the forearms...
Yeah why? To put the shield on the right arm? Just switch the elbow parts during assembly
@@ZakuAurelius
Could be an easy way to switch the shield.
is now Big body with a small gun a trend? I don't get it
The UC had a mobile suit size creep going on up to Hathaway's Flash, which is what the Messer is from. Suits were getting bigger and bigger--compare the RX-78 to Zeta to ZZ to Nu Gundam for instance. The Gustav Karl, Messer, Xi, and Penelope were kinda the endpoint of that size creep before things snapped back the other way with the Formula series and into Victory Gundam.
those genes back there worry me
I really wish Bandai make a new Zaki lll
TBH a lot of the bulky MS is really boring in model kit form....like Gustav, Virtue, Seravee, GP02 etc....they feel the same to me because they're too bulky and not much they can do in HG
form. The only thing that impressed me is that torso articulation and that's about it.
Which is better getting a Rg nu gundam and sazabi or the fazz ver ka
The FAZZ will be a much higher price. Nu and Saz are both very good models and I do recommend both of them. I’d recommend the FAZZ if you don’t care much about articulation, it’ll mostly just stand there and look badass.
nu and sazabi RGs are lit af
MG Fazz is big boi, its filled with accesories. RG nu and RG sazabi is one of the best rg i've ever seen. I'd recommend Rg nu + sazabi tbh. FAZZ ver ka is kinda pricey and you can get both of those with fazz's price
Seems to be a very limited first run. No one has this kit available and only a few places are taking pre-orders. If I had to guess it's because the film has been delayed.
The kit was delayed. Bandai seems to be running on limited production because of corona
Just use extra thin tamiya cement on the thighs and that will solve the splitting problem
Tamiya thin cement is wicking and also has a capillary function. Instead of doing all that for removing a seam line, sand the interior elbow joint to have a better forearm connection, then with everything assembled, draw some Tamiya extra thin on the arm seam. Let it dry, scrape off the seam line and sand it down.
Even for a full paint job, that much part modification isn’t necessary. Dry fit and sand the parts to get tolerance, paint the elbow parts, prime and paint the forearm parts, assemble, then sand down the forearm seam, use the Tamiya cement, mask and repaint over the seam. Done. No weakening of the joint, drilling or clipping is needed for a paint job.
Or hell, sand it down and scribe it for an actual panel line in the dry-fit stage.
Seemed more like a product placement for USA Gstore tools. Which, by all means, everyone should get stuff through them. Good store.
I didn’t wanna have to mask. This didn’t take very long at all, and I don’t really care about the joint durability being slightly lessened because once my kits are painted I leave them in one pose 🤷♂️
Still waiting on my pre-order a bit salty
Man the waist part is a bummer. If that not the case it will be great.
I'm confused by the lack of polycaps. When Bandai invented polycaps they were a solution to all the problems with falling pieces. Now they tell us the there are no polycaps in a kit like if it's something good! So...what's happening? Bandai regrets their polycaps? Why? How do they solve the problems with legs and arms falling without caps? I don't know how do they sold that problems without the help of rubber.
I talked about this during the live stream build. I never got why it was a good or bad thing to have polycaps or not. If the kit stays together and does what it’s supposed to then whatever!
@@ZakuAurelius Maybe Bandai is just doing experiments. I don't have problems with policaps either...but only if they are not exposed directly.
I dont' understand why Bandai choose to change this thing again...maybe the kit is less expensive for them to produce...I don't know.
I CAN'T GET THIS DAMN THING!!
IT'S SOLD OUT EVERYWHERE AT A REASONABLE PRICE!!!
It’ll be reprinted soon I’m sure, just wait
The legs and feet are very Marasai-esque.
The Messer is designed by Anaheim Electronics, who also made the Marasai for the Titans, so it's consistent in that sense. More specifically they engineered it from the Geara Doga which Anaheim had did the manufacturing work on for the 2nd Neo-Zeon. In-narrative, they deliberately went with a very Zeonic look when the terrorist cell Mafty commissioned them to design a mobile suit for them. Basically yet another tick in the tally for Anaheim working both sides that would eventually lead to the Federation trying to dump them entirely for the in-house SNRI thinktank
gtf234 Yeah I definitely see the Geara Doga elements in this design as well
@@dylanv9463 It's not entirely clear if Anaheim designed the Geara Doga for the Neo Zeon, but it's explicitly stated they were given the manufacturing contract for it, so they had the data to use for subsequent projects and Anaheim wasn't above misappropriating data given to them in confidence. IIRC Char gave them the basics for the psychoframe and Nu Gundam knowing they would leak it to Londo Bell and Amuro.
Once the Federation began playing favorites with the SNRI, manufacturing work was the best Anaheim could get for a long while- the SNRI would be given all the lucrative R&D work while Anaheim would assemble the results or develop cheaper mass production models. Ex while the SNRI had the Formula Project, Anaheim was stuck with the scraps of creating the Heavygun, G-Cannon, Jamesgun and Javelin over those decades with large gaps of nothing in between as the Federation fell into a habit of overusing a generation for far too long. They were still mainlining Javelins by the time Zanscare invaded in the UC150's, and by then the Javelin was a 20 year old design and thus grossly underperforming against anything Zanscare made. In that example Anaheim would find business by sponsoring League Militaire much like how they did the AEUG back during the Gryps War- developing for them the Victory Gundams and the Gun-EZ/Gunblaster.
i don't know if the creator did this mobile suit justice if they made the rear boosters great parts to use as boobs for your robot.... if it get one i'll replace it with a custom backpack to look like an ibo ahab reactor instead :c
Honestly, I think that shot of the box size is doing more to sell me on this kit than the kit itself. :D
The resin kit you mentioned, is it based on the original design(s), or is it a recent resin kit of this movie(?) version of the design?
Ahhhhh 10 times better than mechagaikotsu
He went downhill with his reviews lately
@@Torterra24 yeah his voice just annoys me now
Or you can just put some putty over the seam line and sand it down.
It's pretty cool but somehow I can't unsee the backpack looking like a pair of boobs behind it.