Its the new way of the world. Because everyone can instantly send anonymous DMs to anyone else, people send hateful violent vitriolic crap to anyone they are mad at. These are people who would never do a thing in person because they are cowards, but they'll definitely get online and send some threats, because it's just typing on a screen to them.
@@juliuslucas5604 That's not the point. NO ONE should be subjected to that. If you have to reduce yourself to that level, you shouldn't be around civilized human beings.
You guys are playing chess with deluding our fanbase into thinking Ryan Day should get fired. Day will get everything sorted out eventually. Makes me angry that people want him gone. Too many people are spoiled with winning. You rarely get successful young coaches like Ryan Day. I believe in him.
@@saintsrobbed6450as an Ohio State fan you can not be blaming Michigan for that. Plenty of Ohio State fans want day gone, stop blaming Michigan for everything
i always thought bama was dumb to fire that one coach that won every game except the auburn game. they were 10-1 that year. i think it was Bill Curry not sure but it's dumb to fire someone over 1 loss. rivalry game or not. i mean ohio st is in the playoffs. that's all you can ask of any coach year to year and it's more important than a rivalry game.
@@BackyardAquatics-o2mfor a quite a few Ohio State fans because he can't meet Michigan that's not enough. It's a sad nature of this particular rivalry
@@BackyardAquatics-o2mmaybe to YOU it’s more important, but to the boosters, ALUMNI, and people who pay the bills, beating TTUN is more important. the reason it’s more important is because up until the playoff system, we basically HAD to beat TTUN to make a bowl game/natty appearance. it’s gonna take a long time for the expectations of winning/losing subside.
And ensures signs are prominently displayed right by him in background when he was being interviewed Saturday morning. The bipolar behavior is typical of mainstream…they are the lunatics.
No one outside of Ohio State fans are sending fans are sending threats to Ryan Day there’s no need to go after First Take bc you don’t do it for other coaches.
Quiet you CLOWN🤡🤮🖕🖕...I've personally heard college fans from other schools like Colorado threaten people online and in private all the time and this is the one time you comment on this stuff🤮🤡🖕🖕
I'm an Ohio State fan, but to threaten a man and his family over a game is absolutely disgusting. I get the rivalry, and it's a big deal, but is it truly worth a human beings life? We obsess over this game against Michigan more than Michigan (OMG, I said it twice) obsesses over it. Hey, I want natty's in the trophy case, not bragging rights for "THE GAME!"
U of M vs OSU is a much more even rivalry historically than auburn Alabama, they’ve played for longer and Michigan has more wins. 4 straight is rough, but it’s not the same as auburn and Alabama because that is a much more lopsided rivalry
@danieldoyle6333 now it is. It wasn't when Cam and Nick Marshall played. Point is. They still in the college playoff and a chance to win the title. I'd be competing for titles every year instead of worrying about beating my rival.
You would too if you made millions off it and people valued your opinion. But you never did anything that counts so you wouldn’t understand what that feels like
Getting and developing that talent isn't straightforward. Ask Texas or your rivals Michigan how easy it is for any random coach to win 87% of games with all the resources and recruiting advantages in the world.
@@Reloading20 im a legit uninterested third party here. I think we can all agree Oregon is the worst. I’m just saying a 87 win percentage isn’t the brag he thinks it is. Granted, Ohio state isn’t a terribly run program like USC right now, but i just don’t think it’s that big of a brag when you consistently have the beat talent in all of college football and at least half to two thirds of you games are gimmies.
he doesn't really care about Day. The fans that have high expectations for Day, don't like Herbstreit. He knows it, that's why he goes after them so hard.
Herbie insulting Buckeye fans on the selection show .. surprise surprise .. didn't go over well. Then he doubled down and insulted Buckeye fans at the end of the Tennessee game. And HE is the one who feels slighted? Give us an overly sensitive break.
@@Sizzle403 what are you talking about 8 of their starters are 5 stars and 6 of their starters are projected 1st round picks for the next couple drafts
Born and bred in Ohio and now living in another State, I have been a big Ohio State fan since the days of Archie Griffin. I have never hated Michigan or understood the logic of that. The only thing I really care about is winning national championships. That's the real prize. On a side note, anybody who makes threats (death or otherwise), over a game that grown men play, please seek psychiatric help immediately.
with the blatant talent discrepancy that OSU naturally has every year, pretty much ANY COACH ON EARTH would win 10 games per year with that program but every time it's an actual big game, every time he needs to actually COACH to help his team gain an advantage, they choke and embarrass themselves.... most overrated bozo in all of CFB
EVERY PUBLIC FIGURE GOES THROUGH THAT STUFF! Just because he's your personal friend it matters more? Whatever he's going through, he still makes millions of dollars a years, so his family is "going through" that as well; going through living millionaire lifestyles. But just bc it's his friend it matters more. So basically Kirk is saying that he's bias and untrustworthy to give his objective analysis.
His kid should not be threatened to be killed because of his dad's job. That kid doesn't understand that and didnt have anything to do with losing to the team up north. As a dad I'm not ok with that.
@r.searcy5627 The son is 20 I think. No one is ok with it but it happens all the time. The son lives the lifestyle of a son whos dad make 10 million a year. The death threats are literally trolls on Instagram. It's not like a phone call from someone outside of his house. Let's be clear.
@@Peace2humankind Oh ok! I see where you're coming from now. Thanks for taking the time to clear that up for me. I didnt realize the age of son and the nature of threats. That's going to be a part of it with social media regardless in the social media era.
Kirk is zesty for Ryan day aint no way you lose to your rival 4 years in a row and don't get pressured to get fired especially at a powerhouse school like Ohio State if saban lost to Auburn 4 years in a row he be in trouble too and he's a mile ahead of Ryan Day in national championships
KIRK, stop it. He's not the only coach that deals with this. It unfortunately comes with the job. Saban won 7 Nattys, and I'm sure when he lost to Auburn, he got flamed.
I get it that Day is Kirk's guy, but you don't throw your colleagues under the bus because you disagree with their opinion. I'm glad Shannon Sharpe addressed what Kirk and Chris Fowler said during the OSU broadcast about what the people (Stephen A Smith and Shannon Sharpe) from First Take said about Day.
@@technicaltim1164 Number one and most importantly both SAS and Shannon said different things. Fowler and Herbstreit completely left out the context of what SAS said. He clearly said if Day doesn't win a championship he should be let go. Fowler and Herbstreit took his statement and mentioned the entire cast of First Take.The reality is Stephen A said what a lot of the OSU fan base has been saying for a few years...Day can't beat Michigan let him go.
@@technicaltim1164 Also remember they all work for ESPN/Disney Fowler and Herbstreit shouldn't be bringing up their colleagues takes during a playoff game. They know dam well the playoff broadcast has nothing to do with First Take. This is why I said they threw them under the bus. Imagine your teammate not agreeing with something you said and you go out of your way to bring it up on a national broadcast...
@@daweeza42 i agree he left out details but if the whole point of a debate show like first take to have opinions that others might not agree with then why is it so out of line for him to disagree while the topic at hand is happening?
This is my biggest thing. Kirk is entitled to his opinion but as a father of a former OSU athlete and a friend of Ryan day he shouldn’t be allowed to share his opinion on the matter on a platform like this since it holds bias
I wonder why he didn't go on FT and defend his stance. He won't confront the black man but will talk to the white man and they both are on THE SAME NETWORK AROUND THE SAME TIME FRAME.. i guess he's here just to cuss
@@onedudesopinion197 quit race baiting, this never had anything to do with race. If anything, if anything it’s about Stephen A thinking he’s better and worth more than Pat when he’s not so people are picking sides
Second best winning percentage as an Ohio State coach... Michigan leads the all-time series you want to blame that on day as well? two national titles since the 80s you want to blame that on day also.... Bunch of f****** mental midget fans he's done more for the program than nearly any other coach.... You want to give Urban credit beating the shittiest teams Michigan has fielded in their history during one of the weakest eras of the Big Ten... Urban's only national title with Ohio State not his recruits not his team... But he managed to get embarrassed by Michigan State and Iowa
@@BuckMulligan72 the first round of these playoffs are a joke and 99% of the wins on Day's resume are entirely because of the massive talent discrepancy OSU has every year..... 100% of his losses are because he's simply a bad coach who can't out-scheme an actual good coach if his life depended on it
Im from Toledo. Half my Neighborhood is Michigan fans half are Ohio State fans.... Im and Ohio State fan. The hatred in our neighborhood is exhausting. It used to be in good fun now its ridiculous. It does not surprise me that Coach Day has to have protection at night for his family. The crap that goes on here before, during, and after "The Game" is mind blowing. People just need to get a grip. This year I think is the worst its ever been.
I'm from Toledo to lol. I stayed in a hotel about 2 years ago when the game was in Ann Arbor, and some of the Harbour clan was there. I was like, yall from Ohio, how could you??? 😅
I feel bad for Day's family, but he did court some of this expectation: He arrogantly threatened to "hang 100 around Michigan's neck" before Harbaugh humbled him.
I do too. The issue is that he went after First Take. Called them out. This was like Offense calling out the Defense or Special Teams. How anyone is ignoring this is the problem.
@revlee23 To think that these guys are supposed to not go after each other is laughable. They're out there blabbering everyday about their opinions. It's just natural that they get some of it back.
Right or wrong, Herbstreit is not the person to chastise Ohio State fans. When he says "some toxic fans", all we hear is "Ohio State fans are toxic". We don't like him. This is coming from fans who say " once a Buckeye, always a Buckeye". We don't like you Kirk. Shut up about us. Might as well be Connor Stallions saying it.
I dunno man, Kirk actually PLAYED for the Buckeyes, so I think his opinion counts for something. But it just feels like there's too many OSU fans who's emotional wellbeing depends on the football team being perfect.
If Ryan Day does not want the pressure, he should Forego his $10m salary and take a less stressful job. Jobs with higher compensation carry more risks.
Any normal person out there would trade their lives with Day in a second to make 10.2 million a year, death threats to the son and all. Ask the wife if she would trade, and rather have him make 45k a year to not have to "go through" such "hardships." No way on earth she, nor he would trade. But literally everyone making 45/65/100k a year would in a second. Shut up, Kirk!
Aye Kirk Tell Him Go Work At Walmart where nobody cares how good you are at your job and give back the millions of dollars I’m so sick of this death threats weren’t invited for Ryan Day smh
Ryan Day knew the job was dangerous when he took it! At the end of the day Ryan Day should be fired if he doesn't win the National Championship! Hirbstreit is to close to the situation to be objective. Ryan Day hasn't gotten it done at Ohio St. Facts over feelings!
@@timfoster6286highly debatable. They had comparable teams for sure in terms of NFL talent, but they certainly didn't have teams that were built to beat - or even compete - with Ohio State. Michigan got stuck in a loop of trying to out-talent Ohio State, trying to beat them at their own game. It didn't work. Michigan realized it had to fight the Buckeyes inside of a phone booth (as analyst Joel Klatt put it), to win at the line of scrimmage. The entire approach changed after the debacle that was 2020. Ohio State fans who are still in denial about this fact will make up any number of excuses, like that Harbaugh and Michigan started cheating, but at the end of the day it was a complete rewriting of the fundamental culture and strategy, and it led to a Natty and to 4 straight wins, with many more to come.
Herbie is a Buckeye, and we love him. The Fringe has given it to him pretty badly too over the years for not being a "Homer" while doing his job. So bad, he had to move from Ohio, and now lives in Arizona (that fact tied with the side piece he had here too). We love Herbie, but The Fringe he is talking about would be the ones starting riots if we did lose to Tennessee...and have sent threatening messages about burning houses down and death threats to Herbie, the OSU coaching staff & even many players over the years Buckeye football is a way of life and a religion for C-Bus & Ohio...Ryan Day knew what he signed up for when accepting the job. All the $$$ Day is making and the $$$ our roster is making, falling short of goals is unacceptable. We can all name 5 other coaches right now that would win The Game, a B1G 🏆, and a National Championship w/ this amazing roster. Day fails at game planning for big games, w/ his ego getting in the way (ex: attacking an opponents strength instead of their weakness). If Day does lose to Oregon again, he should be gone. Desmond Howard said it best on the GameDay set: "The 10 (losses) are normally to teams that are equal to him as far as roster & talent...the teams he has beat (60+ wins) are against teams without 4 and 5 star guys. ...people are giving him the benefit of the doubt, who has only earned reasonable doubt. His record against top 5 or top 10 opponents only give reasonable doubt, not the benefit of the doubt. He hasn't earned benefit of the doubt" We (Buckeye fans) have seen this before w/ Coach Cooper. We see history repeating itself with Ryan Day losing The Game, and not winning the Conference or National Championship year in & year out. When having a Top 5 recruiting class every year & having the highest paid roster in the country, underperforming is unacceptable. On the same token, death threats are also unacceptable...just beyond unacceptable, and understand Herbie's frustration because it helped push him out of the state he called home too
Is all criticism of Day from someone considered to be a lunatic? There's a difference between fans being vocal and wanting him fired, and lunatics who are sending death threats to his son. But I think they're mixing the two fans together and putting them in the same category.
I grew up in Ohio raking leaves on Saturday afternoon and listening to Ohio State football. Years later I became a student and then an alum. So "the game" is the ultimate to me. Yet the lunatic fringe is what makes me want to forget I ever cared about Ohio State football. The Saban mini-rant was the best thing I've heard on the subject - ever - thanks for putting it out there Coach Saban.
If you are sending threats, you are no Buckeye fan! Period. There is only 1 team each year that isn't disappointed. I've been a OSU fan for over 50 years. Love Ryan Day!
The fact that HERBSTREIT THINKS 15-20% OF OUR FAN BASE IS THE LUNATIC FRINGE irritates me to no end. That's a fraction of a fraction, brother. Be better.
It's more like 90%. Woody Hayes sent that fanbase down an ugly rabbit hole. They are still wrapping their self worth into a stupid football game. And you wonder why they are so angry?!?
He’s lost 4 in a row to Michigan and the most recent loss was at home to the worst Michigan team in years. Cut the bs he hasn’t lived up to expectation.
He's wrong and I love Kirk but you can't lose 4 times in a row against Michigan and survive. Kirk should know the rivalry he played in it he knows the stakes this is completely unacceptable from OSU and it should be at Michigan as well. If we are going to continue this rivalry as the best in sports we need to keep the standard we set during the 10 year war. Earl Bruce was a fantastic coach couldn't beat Michigan he was fired
Ryan Day deserves some criticism when it comes to his record against Michigan but that criticism shouldn’t be turned into anger. Especially when it’s directed to his family, It’s terrible that his son is recieving death threats. Death threats are unacceptable and those threats leads to anxiety and possibly suicide. It’s just football in the end of the day, People is continuously allow their emotions to cloud their judgement. Much prayers to Ryan Day and his family, this insolence needs to be stopped.
I am not doubting the death threats are real from some deranged people. But the Ohio State fans I know, and have known for 50 years would never do this. I don't like losing to Mich 4 yrs in a row, but I stand behind the coach we have, and I respect the man. I remember how John Cooper was disliked for losing to Mich, and was eventually let go...but death threats? People need to get God in their lives.
No one should ever receive death threats over a football game and I will agree with that, but Kirk tries to infer through his comments that 20% of the fan base is basically doing that kind of stuff which I can guarantee is a gross exaggeration and over generalization. Kind of like his claim that there were 40K TN fans in Ohio Stadium on Saturday, which everyone could see was absolute BS. The "lunatic fringe" thing is Kirk's "deplorable" moment, and he is hearing about it as he rightfully should be. When your own colleagues are calling you out over your comments from the game, it may be time for some introspection.
This is true for Penn State fans and Franklin as well. Guy took us into the elite programs again, but because we lose to Ohio state (another elite program) people wanna fire him constantly. Like, do your research on what they do for the football program and you’ll understand why these coaches are so highly regarded. I’m so tired of adults acting like emotional toddlers in various walks of life
What Kirk described at the end is essentially how lots of fandom is these days for most sports. Some people take the game too seriously when they're just a fan that should enjoy the game.
Carmen Ohio is a heartfelt tribute to Ohio State University, celebrating the pride, joy, and eternal connection that students, alumni, and supporters feel for their alma mater. The lyrics emphasize reverence, emotional depth, and the enduring impact of the university on its community. It serves as a unifying anthem that encapsulates the spirit of Buckeye loyalty and tradition. If you're lobbing death threats at the son of the Ohio State coach, YOU ARE NOT A TRUE BUCKEYE!
Been a Buckeye fan my whole life, losing to Michigan pains me more than taking a bath in Tabasco sauce after running through a barbed wire fence naked. But the past few years I've realized it really is just a game, enjoy the highs and take the lows as they come. Spend a day frustrated then move on, dont throw death threats at the guys family
I am a Buckeye, and I agree with Kirk 110%…. We have a 15-20% weird lunatic fringe that is unbearable. As soon we lost to Michigan I said wipe the slate clean and get ready for the playoffs. I am sure this comment will attract plenty of toxic internet trolls, but for the adult Buckeyes in the room, let’s go enjoy the Rose Bowl, go Bucks
Major back peddle by Herbstreit because of his inappropriate comments about Ohio State fans on the national telecast Saturday night. Don’t buy this BS. I am a Ryan Day fan and support him as the coach. He is an excellent coach.
I am an OSU fan that lives in the SEC south. I think it's ridiculous that our fanbase wants to get rid of Day. 67-10. The 10 losses, 4 to ttup, 4 in the cfp (4 team era), 1 loss to mizzou with 3rd string qb and half of starters gone and 1 loss to Oregon in 21' in the season. Crazy to think we can upgrade above that. Especially when Day has shown he is willing to evolve and be better.
Am Ohio State Buckeyes fan but those fans who are doing that, sending death threat they need to be arrested send to jail people taken things too serious they not supposed to, it just a game i get the passion that comes with it.
As an Oregon fan trying to transition to the big10 culture it’s hard to believe how whiny/angry/delusional these Ohio state fans are online😂 my extended family lived in Columbus ohio, I know there’s good people over there but you sure wouldn’t know it when you’re just trying to enjoy football
Kirk reported on Senior Tackle, which is closed to the media. He was there as a parent and he still decided to report on it. I doubt he is allowed back in the woody after his kid graduates. He broke the rules and basic media ethics. More of the media needs to be tough on him for that.
As a Ohio state fan we lost to Michigan four years in a row can’t beat a team forever sooner or later Michigan was gonna to beat the buckeyes it’s time for us to move on and hopefully the buckeyes can bring the national title to Columbus
The thing is though. Kirk through his colleagues under the bus and on top of that this guy was talking down on SMU and Indiana when Tennessee got blown out the worst.
I'm a lifelong OSU fan and its disgusting our fans are threatening Day and his son. Its an f'in game played by college kids, not life or death. With crazy stuff like what happened to that insurance CEO I don't blame Day to have armed body guards. I can not imagine him thinking money is worth this. Don't be shocked if he just leaves after the playoffs are over, regardless of the results. And what coach is going to want to come here for basically running off a coach that had the highest winning percentage the last 6 years?! Insane.
I remember kirk herbstreit when he was with WBNS Radio in Columbus before he was with ESPN talking trash with the Common Man after Ohio State would lose.
Kirk Herbstreit has been at ESPN way longer than any of those "public figures" on First Take. Shannon Sharpe is the one who has to watch his mouth and worry about his job security. Ohio State was favored to win the national championship for a reason. Stop acting like they're Boise.
No he doesn't, Sharpe is fine. Kirk doesn't have Sharpe's playing resume, and Sharpe is more fun to watch. Kirk is one of the good ole boys, trying to defend a coach, who's been a loser with so many good players.
@chriskey7440 just because shannon got a better playing resume than kirk, doesn't mean he knows more football than kirk and it doesn't make him right about everything
Point 1: Threatening anyone’s family is unacceptable. Point 2: A college football coach is effectively a high paid CEO. Ryan Day makes $10mm per year. He is paid to deliver results for his constituents, which in this case includes OSU fans. Point 3: If the leader fails to meet the expectations of constituents consistently, change may be appropriate. That’s the standard used for every other high paid individual across industries. What’s more, CEOs in other industries (e.g. finance, tech) do not have guaranteed money regardless of performance.
I don’t accept that the group unhappy with Ryan Day, and someone giving death threats…that they’re the same. Cmon! Good idea to not insult your customer. If you lose an election, good idea to not blame the voter. And if you’re a on the hot seat, probably good to not blame your fans… His standard is to beat Michigan, win the Big10, and compete for a championship. That’s his standard- what he said is his job. Who has a job making $50k can fail over and over again and again, and still have job security? Herbie can support Day without insulting the fans.
Nah. Anyone sending death threats are extreme weirdos!
Its the new way of the world. Because everyone can instantly send anonymous DMs to anyone else, people send hateful violent vitriolic crap to anyone they are mad at. These are people who would never do a thing in person because they are cowards, but they'll definitely get online and send some threats, because it's just typing on a screen to them.
Criminals, actually.
Yeah that’s messed up. Those are the lunatics
@@NLGabriel75 there's no proof of that
@@oh.....5075 😂😂 Nerd .
Ryan days son getting death threats is insane, Ohio state fans need to be reminded it’s just a football game.
This has happened to allot of people
@@juliuslucas5604 That's not the point. NO ONE should be subjected to that. If you have to reduce yourself to that level, you shouldn't be around civilized human beings.
You clearly aren't apart of it if u think its "just a game"
@@thebigmexicantroll6581 isk if you’re trolling? but you’re down playing death threats over a football game? u stupid
Ohio State fans are idiots.
As a Michigan fan, i understand trolling Ohio State from a winning perspective is fun. But ANYTHING after that is ridiculous!!
You guys are playing chess with deluding our fanbase into thinking Ryan Day should get fired. Day will get everything sorted out eventually. Makes me angry that people want him gone. Too many people are spoiled with winning. You rarely get successful young coaches like Ryan Day. I believe in him.
@@saintsrobbed6450as an Ohio State fan you can not be blaming Michigan for that. Plenty of Ohio State fans want day gone, stop blaming Michigan for everything
It wasn't just media. Im an Alabama fan, and if Saban had lost to Auburn 4 strait years. It would have been bedlam.
Yeah people would be telling Saban's kids to kill themselves. All really normal
i always thought bama was dumb to fire that one coach that won every game except the auburn game. they were 10-1 that year. i think it was Bill Curry not sure but it's dumb to fire someone over 1 loss. rivalry game or not. i mean ohio st is in the playoffs. that's all you can ask of any coach year to year and it's more important than a rivalry game.
@@BackyardAquatics-o2mfor a quite a few Ohio State fans because he can't meet Michigan that's not enough. It's a sad nature of this particular rivalry
@@BackyardAquatics-o2mmaybe to YOU it’s more important, but to the boosters, ALUMNI, and people who pay the bills, beating TTUN is more important. the reason it’s more important is because up until the playoff system, we basically HAD to beat TTUN to make a bowl game/natty appearance. it’s gonna take a long time for the expectations of winning/losing subside.
Def a Bama fan, STRAIGHT not a passage through a body of water.
He wants to criticize the lunatic fringe and yet all ESPN does is fan the flames by highlighting negative facets of Ryan Day's coaching record.
And he’s employed by the company who use these same tactics
ESPN knows what they are doin, they have a few shows that can throw shots across each other, they want it to be the KEEMSTAR of football drama.
Very well said.
And ensures signs are prominently displayed right by him in background when he was being interviewed Saturday morning. The bipolar behavior is typical of mainstream…they are the lunatics.
And then Shannon Sharpe got upset about his comments
No one outside of Ohio State fans are sending fans are sending threats to Ryan Day there’s no need to go after First Take bc you don’t do it for other coaches.
Preach I even said there was no point for him to bring up Shannon or first take they did nothing wrong
You think what they are saying isn’t contributing to the hate that Ryan Day gets because it definitely does.
@@jadebethel7556 he never mentioned Shannon specifically, just First Take
@@tmac161690 percent of the fans on elevenwarriors wanted him fired no matter how far Day goes in the playoffs the minute after the game. Lol
@@markstepanekii388 shouldn't even be in the playoffs
I’m a father of a former Ohio State football player and I’m embarrassed by the fans of Ohio State grow up and act like adult don’t be stupid!
Quiet you CLOWN🤡🤮🖕🖕...I've personally heard college fans from other schools like Colorado threaten people online and in private all the time and this is the one time you comment on this stuff🤮🤡🖕🖕
Poor Ryan, he’s the first coach ever to feel that way. Go console him Kirk.
LOL EXACTLY! He also gets 10 million a yea. Literally every high profile coach/player has a cop sitting outside of their homes.
Born on 3rd base @@Peace2humankind
I'm an Ohio State fan, but to threaten a man and his family over a game is absolutely disgusting. I get the rivalry, and it's a big deal, but is it truly worth a human beings life? We obsess over this game against Michigan more than Michigan (OMG, I said it twice) obsesses over it. Hey, I want natty's in the trophy case, not bragging rights for "THE GAME!"
here's the thing. do you really believe herbie when he says 20% of osu fans are ones who threaten people?
You know why Kirk feels that way?? Because he never beat Michigan either. 5 seasons as a player at OSU and never beat Michigan. Losers love company
Damm lol I didn’t even kn he played 😂😂😂
@@grip1003he was quarterback in the 90s. Georgia beat him in a bowl game as well.
No one should be getting death threats over college football
Lmao this savage 😂
Love this #GOBLUE
I agree with Kirk but its The Ohio State. Thats what comes with it. Imagine Alabama losing 4 years straight to Auburn.
we use to all the time
They did before.
U of M vs OSU is a much more even rivalry historically than auburn Alabama, they’ve played for longer and Michigan has more wins. 4 straight is rough, but it’s not the same as auburn and Alabama because that is a much more lopsided rivalry
@danieldoyle6333 now it is. It wasn't when Cam and Nick Marshall played. Point is. They still in the college playoff and a chance to win the title. I'd be competing for titles every year instead of worrying about beating my rival.
He took over on the backs of Tressel and Urban. The standard is the standard.
It's not the standard anymore
Exactly 👍🏾 leave, as a fan living in the South we Buckeyes are laughed at because we can not finish strong year after year the ball has been dropped
I guess the standard is to threats to the coaches' families members ? You can't be serious 😒
Imagine your entire personality revolves around how well a teenager plays a game.
🤣
It's sad. I agree. People take sports way too seriously. It's just a game
You would too if you made millions off it and people valued your opinion. But you never did anything that counts so you wouldn’t understand what that feels like
@dex216sims it's a billion dollar business it's just a game is a myth millions of people benefit from successful programs stop talking stupid
@@Ksupreme_ Cope
Kirt cries when it's his friend but shots on everyone else.
He should win 87% of his games, he probably has a top 3 talent pool every year.
Eggactly
Bingo and winning 87% with a top 3 recruiting class every year doesn’t make you a great coach. Lots of guys could do that.
Getting and developing that talent isn't straightforward. Ask Texas or your rivals Michigan how easy it is for any random coach to win 87% of games with all the resources and recruiting advantages in the world.
Goofies who get upset over college sports are true losers.
@@Reloading20 im a legit uninterested third party here. I think we can all agree Oregon is the worst. I’m just saying a 87 win percentage isn’t the brag he thinks it is. Granted, Ohio state isn’t a terribly run program like USC right now, but i just don’t think it’s that big of a brag when you consistently have the beat talent in all of college football and at least half to two thirds of you games are gimmies.
Kirk being a groupie, get behind him? He lost 4 games in a row and he’s a good friend. Enough said.
Of course he comes to this show and not first take to directly address the “backlash”. Spineless
He doesn't have the guts to go on FT.
Now you know he has it in his contract that he only has to interact with Desmond 😂
Nobody but unemployed losers watching FT
He wants a audience so of course he talks to Pat
It doesn't take guts to go on that show. It takes a lobotomy.
@@FMLothario🤣. Wow.
Of course, he's gonna ride Ryans Days nuts when he graduated from Ohio state. Never been a fan of Kirk Herbstreit
He cool other than when he shitting on my Noles although this year we earned that with the trash we put out
he doesn't really care about Day. The fans that have high expectations for Day, don't like Herbstreit. He knows it, that's why he goes after them so hard.
AMAZING HOW HE GOES ON A SAFE SPACE TO DISCUSS. GO ON FIRST TAKE!
Herbie insulting Buckeye fans on the selection show .. surprise surprise .. didn't go over well. Then he doubled down and insulted Buckeye fans at the end of the Tennessee game. And HE is the one who feels slighted? Give us an overly sensitive break.
You must be part of the lunatic fringe.
He had cj stourd, mhj, Chris olave, Garret Wilson and Jeremiah Smith and hasn't won a big 10 championship or beat Michigan he deserves criticism
Dayum! That’s crazy…. It’s def a reason any other coach woulda got fired…. He really hasnt actually won anything
I agree, however his wife and kids don't need to be threatened etc. If he performs poorly fire him, the rest of that is nonsense
Criticism? Sure. But anything more? No.
And one of the worst defenses in OSU history until last year…..
@@Sizzle403 what are you talking about 8 of their starters are 5 stars and 6 of their starters are projected 1st round picks for the next couple drafts
Born and bred in Ohio and now living in another State, I have been a big Ohio State fan since the days of Archie Griffin. I have never hated Michigan or understood the logic of that. The only thing I really care about is winning national championships. That's the real prize. On a side note, anybody who makes threats (death or otherwise), over a game that grown men play, please seek psychiatric help immediately.
Your bragging about his record being good but they beat up on sub .500 teams in big 10 every year and choke PER USUAL!
with the blatant talent discrepancy that OSU naturally has every year, pretty much ANY COACH ON EARTH would win 10 games per year with that program
but every time it's an actual big game, every time he needs to actually COACH to help his team gain an advantage, they choke and embarrass themselves.... most overrated bozo in all of CFB
EVERY PUBLIC FIGURE GOES THROUGH THAT STUFF! Just because he's your personal friend it matters more? Whatever he's going through, he still makes millions of dollars a years, so his family is "going through" that as well; going through living millionaire lifestyles. But just bc it's his friend it matters more. So basically Kirk is saying that he's bias and untrustworthy to give his objective analysis.
His kid should not be threatened to be killed because of his dad's job. That kid doesn't understand that and didnt have anything to do with losing to the team up north. As a dad I'm not ok with that.
@r.searcy5627 The son is 20 I think. No one is ok with it but it happens all the time. The son lives the lifestyle of a son whos dad make 10 million a year. The death threats are literally trolls on Instagram. It's not like a phone call from someone outside of his house. Let's be clear.
@@Peace2humankind Oh ok! I see where you're coming from now. Thanks for taking the time to clear that up for me. I didnt realize the age of son and the nature of threats. That's going to be a part of it with social media regardless in the social media era.
Ryan day hasn’t beat Michigan since he said Ohio state would score 100 points on Michigan to Coach Harbaugh
3rd Base Born.
Since y'all started cheating
@@joelpeterson7097go cry in the corner😂
He also hasn’t scored 100 in total since he said that! Haha
Kirk is zesty for Ryan day aint no way you lose to your rival 4 years in a row and don't get pressured to get fired especially at a powerhouse school like Ohio State if saban lost to Auburn 4 years in a row he be in trouble too and he's a mile ahead of Ryan Day in national championships
I don’t get why Kirk is dying on this hill. It’s more of Kirk complaining that his buddy is going through what comes with the job.
From everything that was said, that’s what you took away? Death threats are bigger than football.
Agree on that
@@e.h3286have any death threats made to professional athletes ever actually become murders?
Who are you even going to replace Day with. Urban isn’t coming back
Awe poor baby. Nobody else had had to deal with that…
You were the one sending the death threats
KIRK, stop it. He's not the only coach that deals with this. It unfortunately comes with the job. Saban won 7 Nattys, and I'm sure when he lost to Auburn, he got flamed.
Stop it moron, its not ok ,just because other coaches, have dealt with it ,what are you a third grader
I get it that Day is Kirk's guy, but you don't throw your colleagues under the bus because you disagree with their opinion. I'm glad Shannon Sharpe addressed what Kirk and Chris Fowler said during the OSU broadcast about what the people (Stephen A Smith and Shannon Sharpe) from First Take said about Day.
how did kirk throw them under the bus when they said he should be fired?
@@technicaltim1164 Are you just dumb? Did you even bother watching the whole video? Learn to understand CONTEXT
@@technicaltim1164 Number one and most importantly both SAS and Shannon said different things. Fowler and Herbstreit completely left out the context of what SAS said. He clearly said if Day doesn't win a championship he should be let go. Fowler and Herbstreit took his statement and mentioned the entire cast of First Take.The reality is Stephen A said what a lot of the OSU fan base has been saying for a few years...Day can't beat Michigan let him go.
@@technicaltim1164 Also remember they all work for ESPN/Disney Fowler and Herbstreit shouldn't be bringing up their colleagues takes during a playoff game. They know dam well the playoff broadcast has nothing to do with First Take. This is why I said they threw them under the bus. Imagine your teammate not agreeing with something you said and you go out of your way to bring it up on a national broadcast...
@@daweeza42 i agree he left out details but if the whole point of a debate show like first take to have opinions that others might not agree with then why is it so out of line for him to disagree while the topic at hand is happening?
I have no sympathy for anyone making millions to play or coach a GAME.
Ahhh you're jus a hater.
@ yeah and? I got enough time and money to share some hate…..feel free to take some home with you.
@@sammymtk1528 get off the $$$ dude
So Kirk is taking up for his friend! So he should be disqualified from the discussion! Period!
This is my biggest thing. Kirk is entitled to his opinion but as a father of a former OSU athlete and a friend of Ryan day he shouldn’t be allowed to share his opinion on the matter on a platform like this since it holds bias
@@brycelsprout everyone has some sort of bias about something, it’s impossible to avoid
I wonder why he didn't go on FT and defend his stance. He won't confront the black man but will talk to the white man and they both are on THE SAME NETWORK AROUND THE SAME TIME FRAME.. i guess he's here just to cuss
@@onedudesopinion197 quit race baiting, this never had anything to do with race. If anything, if anything it’s about Stephen A thinking he’s better and worth more than Pat when he’s not so people are picking sides
Kirk is a clown for this, who cares about your rhetoric? Day must win big games at OSU, PERIOD! And he has NOT done that!
So he deserves to get death threats for losing? Are you a moron?
He literally just did.
Second best winning percentage as an Ohio State coach... Michigan leads the all-time series you want to blame that on day as well? two national titles since the 80s you want to blame that on day also.... Bunch of f****** mental midget fans he's done more for the program than nearly any other coach.... You want to give Urban credit beating the shittiest teams Michigan has fielded in their history during one of the weakest eras of the Big Ten... Urban's only national title with Ohio State not his recruits not his team... But he managed to get embarrassed by Michigan State and Iowa
@BuckMulligan72 you are a moron
@@BuckMulligan72 the first round of these playoffs are a joke
and 99% of the wins on Day's resume are entirely because of the massive talent discrepancy OSU has every year..... 100% of his losses are because he's simply a bad coach who can't out-scheme an actual good coach if his life depended on it
Im from Toledo. Half my Neighborhood is Michigan fans half are Ohio State fans.... Im and Ohio State fan. The hatred in our neighborhood is exhausting. It used to be in good fun now its ridiculous. It does not surprise me that Coach Day has to have protection at night for his family. The crap that goes on here before, during, and after "The Game" is mind blowing. People just need to get a grip. This year I think is the worst its ever been.
I feel you. I live in windsor (ontario) with ohio family roots. Big buckeye fan. All my buddies are UM fans but the rivalry has turned so toxic.
WOW!!!! ITS REALLY THAT BAD,,,,OMG!!!!
I'm from Toledo to lol. I stayed in a hotel about 2 years ago when the game was in Ann Arbor, and some of the Harbour clan was there. I was like, yall from Ohio, how could you??? 😅
I feel bad for Day's family, but he did court some of this expectation: He arrogantly threatened to "hang 100 around Michigan's neck" before Harbaugh humbled him.
I do too. The issue is that he went after First Take. Called them out. This was like Offense calling out the Defense or Special Teams. How anyone is ignoring this is the problem.
@revlee23 To think that these guys are supposed to not go after each other is laughable. They're out there blabbering everyday about their opinions. It's just natural that they get some of it back.
I guess Ohio will never beat Michigan
Nope. They've never beat them in the past and will never win a game in the future. Michigan will be undefeated in perpetuity.
@ unless they want to get a new coach lol
Not until they go back to smash mouth football.
@@situated4 obvious sarcasm is obvious
Right or wrong, Herbstreit is not the person to chastise Ohio State fans. When he says "some toxic fans", all we hear is "Ohio State fans are toxic". We don't like him. This is coming from fans who say " once a Buckeye, always a Buckeye". We don't like you Kirk. Shut up about us. Might as well be Connor Stallions saying it.
Ohio state fans are the worst lmao.
I dunno man, Kirk actually PLAYED for the Buckeyes, so I think his opinion counts for something. But it just feels like there's too many OSU fans who's emotional wellbeing depends on the football team being perfect.
Kirk has lost it…..truly a shame to see 😏
He truly has. I think it's the dog situation. He is definitely unhinged lately.
@ been that way since he started crying on tv and then last year debacle. Just steady having a public breakdown and I’m here for it
He does have good points though
A pundit
Say what? You’re ok w death threats ?
Kirk's a friend and ex player ...definitely no bias there lol
A college football coach’s son getting death threats…a true snap shot of the mental state in good ol’ US of A.
Further proof Ohio State has the worst fans on planet Earth.
Of course you would go on the Pat McAfee Show instead of First Take. #SafePlace
If Ryan Day does not want the pressure, he should Forego his $10m salary and take a less stressful job. Jobs with higher compensation carry more risks.
Another third grader speaks, you ohio state fans should at least get to 5th grade before you say something
Any normal person out there would trade their lives with Day in a second to make 10.2 million a year, death threats to the son and all. Ask the wife if she would trade, and rather have him make 45k a year to not have to "go through" such "hardships." No way on earth she, nor he would trade. But literally everyone making 45/65/100k a year would in a second. Shut up, Kirk!
Get a life.
Yep Kirk keep your feelings out when it comes to your job
Sports are all about feelings. This is *entertainment.* It is not oncology.
Give me a break Herbstreit, he gets paid a ton to coach, respect to your friend,but I don't care
Criticism and critiquing your team and coach is one thing! Death threats and worse going after a coaches family is absolutely unacceptable!
Aye Kirk Tell Him Go Work At Walmart where nobody cares how good you are at your job and give back the millions of dollars I’m so sick of this death threats weren’t invited for Ryan Day smh
Ryan Day knew the job was dangerous when he took it! At the end of the day Ryan Day should be fired if he doesn't win the National Championship! Hirbstreit is to close to the situation to be objective. Ryan Day hasn't gotten it done at Ohio St. Facts over feelings!
What is "dangerous" about coaching a football team?
If he feels the need to defend Day its all good, but calling out a program specifically is gonna get a response. He knew it.
Didn't Harbaugh lose 7 straight to OSU?
Your comparing Harbaugh turn around Michigan program from the ground to Ryan dyan taking over a all ready build program
Different places have different expectations. Shocking, I know. And not once did Michigan have the better football team in that losing streak
No
@@zachcoggins9018 Yes, they did! 2016 and 2018 had better teams. They came up short BOTH times.
@@timfoster6286highly debatable. They had comparable teams for sure in terms of NFL talent, but they certainly didn't have teams that were built to beat - or even compete - with Ohio State. Michigan got stuck in a loop of trying to out-talent Ohio State, trying to beat them at their own game. It didn't work. Michigan realized it had to fight the Buckeyes inside of a phone booth (as analyst Joel Klatt put it), to win at the line of scrimmage. The entire approach changed after the debacle that was 2020. Ohio State fans who are still in denial about this fact will make up any number of excuses, like that Harbaugh and Michigan started cheating, but at the end of the day it was a complete rewriting of the fundamental culture and strategy, and it led to a Natty and to 4 straight wins, with many more to come.
Herbie is a Buckeye, and we love him. The Fringe has given it to him pretty badly too over the years for not being a "Homer" while doing his job. So bad, he had to move from Ohio, and now lives in Arizona (that fact tied with the side piece he had here too). We love Herbie, but The Fringe he is talking about would be the ones starting riots if we did lose to Tennessee...and have sent threatening messages about burning houses down and death threats to Herbie, the OSU coaching staff & even many players over the years
Buckeye football is a way of life and a religion for C-Bus & Ohio...Ryan Day knew what he signed up for when accepting the job. All the $$$ Day is making and the $$$ our roster is making, falling short of goals is unacceptable. We can all name 5 other coaches right now that would win The Game, a B1G 🏆, and a National Championship w/ this amazing roster. Day fails at game planning for big games, w/ his ego getting in the way (ex: attacking an opponents strength instead of their weakness). If Day does lose to Oregon again, he should be gone. Desmond Howard said it best on the GameDay set:
"The 10 (losses) are normally to teams that are equal to him as far as roster & talent...the teams he has beat (60+ wins) are against teams without 4 and 5 star guys. ...people are giving him the benefit of the doubt, who has only earned reasonable doubt. His record against top 5 or top 10 opponents only give reasonable doubt, not the benefit of the doubt. He hasn't earned benefit of the doubt"
We (Buckeye fans) have seen this before w/ Coach Cooper. We see history repeating itself with Ryan Day losing The Game, and not winning the Conference or National Championship year in & year out. When having a Top 5 recruiting class every year & having the highest paid roster in the country, underperforming is unacceptable. On the same token, death threats are also unacceptable...just beyond unacceptable, and understand Herbie's frustration because it helped push him out of the state he called home too
well said
Is all criticism of Day from someone considered to be a lunatic? There's a difference between fans being vocal and wanting him fired, and lunatics who are sending death threats to his son. But I think they're mixing the two fans together and putting them in the same category.
That was a sucker move for Kirk to address this on Pat’s show. Pat, as usual did a great job on it all.
I grew up in Ohio raking leaves on Saturday afternoon and listening to Ohio State football. Years later I became a student and then an alum. So "the game" is the ultimate to me. Yet the lunatic fringe is what makes me want to forget I ever cared about Ohio State football. The Saban mini-rant was the best thing I've heard on the subject - ever - thanks for putting it out there Coach Saban.
If you are sending threats, you are no Buckeye fan! Period. There is only 1 team each year that isn't disappointed. I've been a OSU fan for over 50 years. Love Ryan Day!
The fact that HERBSTREIT THINKS 15-20% OF OUR FAN BASE IS THE LUNATIC FRINGE irritates me to no end. That's a fraction of a fraction, brother. Be better.
It's more like 90%. Woody Hayes sent that fanbase down an ugly rabbit hole. They are still wrapping their self worth into a stupid football game. And you wonder why they are so angry?!?
ESPN playing their Personalities against each other is ridiculously stupid business.
Death threats over losing 🤔 actual crazy. And then people who always criticise players can’t handle taking any criticism themselves. SMH
He’s lost 4 in a row to Michigan and the most recent loss was at home to the worst Michigan team in years. Cut the bs he hasn’t lived up
to expectation.
Who are they going to get that is better?
He's wrong and I love Kirk but you can't lose 4 times in a row against Michigan and survive. Kirk should know the rivalry he played in it he knows the stakes this is completely unacceptable from OSU and it should be at Michigan as well. If we are going to continue this rivalry as the best in sports we need to keep the standard we set during the 10 year war. Earl Bruce was a fantastic coach couldn't beat Michigan he was fired
The sounding board at ESPN needs to stop talking about people's jobs or personal life. Period.
Ryan Day deserves some criticism when it comes to his record against Michigan but that criticism shouldn’t be turned into anger. Especially when it’s directed to his family, It’s terrible that his son is recieving death threats. Death threats are unacceptable and those threats leads to anxiety and possibly suicide.
It’s just football in the end of the day, People is continuously allow their emotions to cloud their judgement. Much prayers to Ryan Day and his family, this insolence needs to be stopped.
I am not doubting the death threats are real from some deranged people. But the Ohio State fans I know, and have known for 50 years would never do this. I don't like losing to Mich 4 yrs in a row, but I stand behind the coach we have, and I respect the man. I remember how John Cooper was disliked for losing to Mich, and was eventually let go...but death threats? People need to get God in their lives.
No one should ever receive death threats over a football game and I will agree with that, but Kirk tries to infer through his comments that 20% of the fan base is basically doing that kind of stuff which I can guarantee is a gross exaggeration and over generalization. Kind of like his claim that there were 40K TN fans in Ohio Stadium on Saturday, which everyone could see was absolute BS. The "lunatic fringe" thing is Kirk's "deplorable" moment, and he is hearing about it as he rightfully should be. When your own colleagues are calling you out over your comments from the game, it may be time for some introspection.
Man listen as an Ohio State fan... its been 4 fxcking year 😡😡 but let get this Championship 💯💯
Totally agree
This is true for Penn State fans and Franklin as well. Guy took us into the elite programs again, but because we lose to Ohio state (another elite program) people wanna fire him constantly. Like, do your research on what they do for the football program and you’ll understand why these coaches are so highly regarded. I’m so tired of adults acting like emotional toddlers in various walks of life
People need to be held accountable for death threats, messing with children period.
KIRK ITS OK TO SAY YOU ARE DEFENDING THE WHITE BOY. JUST DO NOT ATTACK THE BROTHERS
HATE TONSEE YOUR TRUE COLORS COME OUT!
Yeah I don't know why he had to bring up First Take, when multiple national syndicated programs say even worse.
Talk about my coach Lincoln Riley get him fired 😂😂😂 I’m over it
What Kirk described at the end is essentially how lots of fandom is these days for most sports. Some people take the game too seriously when they're just a fan that should enjoy the game.
Carmen Ohio is a heartfelt tribute to Ohio State University, celebrating the pride, joy, and eternal connection that students, alumni, and supporters feel for their alma mater. The lyrics emphasize reverence, emotional depth, and the enduring impact of the university on its community. It serves as a unifying anthem that encapsulates the spirit of Buckeye loyalty and tradition. If you're lobbing death threats at the son of the Ohio State coach, YOU ARE NOT A TRUE BUCKEYE!
Death threats over a game is hella dumb . It’s like grow up people
Saturday was a win for Coach. My Buckeyes couldn't find a better hire. He's our guy. Knock it off people. Go Bucks. We love you Coach Day
😂 please keep him because we will beat you and you will never win a title #GoBlue
As Jim Harbaugh said Ryan day was born on 3rd base and thinks he hit a triple. Has a 20 million dollar NIL budget. FOH.
Been a Buckeye fan my whole life, losing to Michigan pains me more than taking a bath in Tabasco sauce after running through a barbed wire fence naked. But the past few years I've realized it really is just a game, enjoy the highs and take the lows as they come. Spend a day frustrated then move on, dont throw death threats at the guys family
20% seems really high. Maybe 5%, just really loud.
I am a Buckeye, and I agree with Kirk 110%…. We have a 15-20% weird lunatic fringe that is unbearable. As soon we lost to Michigan I said wipe the slate clean and get ready for the playoffs. I am sure this comment will attract plenty of toxic internet trolls, but for the adult Buckeyes in the room, let’s go enjoy the Rose Bowl, go Bucks
Major back peddle by Herbstreit because of his inappropriate comments about Ohio State fans on the national telecast Saturday night. Don’t buy this BS. I am a Ryan Day fan and support him as the coach. He is an excellent coach.
I am an OSU fan that lives in the SEC south. I think it's ridiculous that our fanbase wants to get rid of Day. 67-10. The 10 losses, 4 to ttup, 4 in the cfp (4 team era), 1 loss to mizzou with 3rd string qb and half of starters gone and 1 loss to Oregon in 21' in the season. Crazy to think we can upgrade above that. Especially when Day has shown he is willing to evolve and be better.
Am Ohio State Buckeyes fan but those fans who are doing that, sending death threat they need to be arrested send to jail people taken things too serious they not supposed to, it just a game i get the passion that comes with it.
As big as OSU the academics has failed to trickle down to the surrounding communities in that part of Ohio
As an Oregon fan trying to transition to the big10 culture it’s hard to believe how whiny/angry/delusional these Ohio state fans are online😂 my extended family lived in Columbus ohio, I know there’s good people over there but you sure wouldn’t know it when you’re just trying to enjoy football
This was a REALLY good interview. I'm a diehard OHIO STATE fan and not a member of the Lunatic Fringe. Go Bucks!
Kirk reported on Senior Tackle, which is closed to the media. He was there as a parent and he still decided to report on it. I doubt he is allowed back in the woody after his kid graduates. He broke the rules and basic media ethics. More of the media needs to be tough on him for that.
Too much hatred in this country for a civil, positive message like this to get through. So sad 😢
As a Ohio state fan we lost to Michigan four years in a row can’t beat a team forever sooner or later Michigan was gonna to beat the buckeyes it’s time for us to move on and hopefully the buckeyes can bring the national title to Columbus
The singer of Beauty school drop out was Frankie Avalon, who was a teen idol during the 60s. He also started in movies with Annette Funicello.
The thing is though. Kirk through his colleagues under the bus and on top of that this guy was talking down on SMU and Indiana when Tennessee got blown out the worst.
KIRK SHUT UP CRYING, HE GETTING PAID GOOD MONEY TO PRODUCE, HE IS AT A TOP FLIGHT PROGRAM AND IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE.🤷🤷
I'm a lifelong OSU fan and its disgusting our fans are threatening Day and his son. Its an f'in game played by college kids, not life or death. With crazy stuff like what happened to that insurance CEO I don't blame Day to have armed body guards. I can not imagine him thinking money is worth this. Don't be shocked if he just leaves after the playoffs are over, regardless of the results. And what coach is going to want to come here for basically running off a coach that had the highest winning percentage the last 6 years?! Insane.
I remember kirk herbstreit when he was with WBNS Radio in Columbus before he was with ESPN talking trash with the Common Man after Ohio State would lose.
I as a Ohioan do not like the a-h that threatened to harm any person for trying to win ! Sometimes it is not your day
I meannn it’s Big 10 football this has been happening since remember the titans…
Kirk Herbstreit has been at ESPN way longer than any of those "public figures" on First Take. Shannon Sharpe is the one who has to watch his mouth and worry about his job security. Ohio State was favored to win the national championship for a reason. Stop acting like they're Boise.
No he doesn't, Sharpe is fine. Kirk doesn't have Sharpe's playing resume, and Sharpe is more fun to watch. Kirk is one of the good ole boys, trying to defend a coach, who's been a loser with so many good players.
@chriskey7440 just because shannon got a better playing resume than kirk, doesn't mean he knows more football than kirk and it doesn't make him right about everything
@@kurtis8284Shannon told no lies. Also, Jim took a pay cut for losing to OSU.
Kirk was a DEI hire.
@@kurtis8284 calm down when it comes to play shannon definitely know mores than kirk. Kirk is a OK anayalst and announcer.
keep that same energy for paul finebaum. he wants so many coaches fired
Push him through? We have been trying to push him through for 5 years now. He earned fans giving up on him.
Point 1: Threatening anyone’s family is unacceptable.
Point 2: A college football coach is effectively a high paid CEO. Ryan Day makes $10mm per year. He is paid to deliver results for his constituents, which in this case includes OSU fans.
Point 3: If the leader fails to meet the expectations of constituents consistently, change may be appropriate. That’s the standard used for every other high paid individual across industries. What’s more, CEOs in other industries (e.g. finance, tech) do not have guaranteed money regardless of performance.
I don’t accept that the group unhappy with Ryan Day, and someone giving death threats…that they’re the same. Cmon!
Good idea to not insult your customer. If you lose an election, good idea to not blame the voter. And if you’re a on the hot seat, probably good to not blame your fans…
His standard is to beat Michigan, win the Big10, and compete for a championship. That’s his standard- what he said is his job. Who has a job making $50k can fail over and over again and again, and still have job security?
Herbie can support Day without insulting the fans.
Let’s be real here, it’s only Buckeyes fans wanting Ryan Day fire.
I think the 11 losses overlooked the 66 wins. Those 11 losses were way bigger games than those 66 W's