Most of these engines are 2000s engines, jaguar land rover during this time was owned by Ford, using mainly Ford engines, so some of the Ford engines in this list have been in jags and landys, however since their acquisition by tata their reliability has been fantastic, having better customer reports and feedback than competitors like bmw mercedes and audi
These engines all are known to fail badly, but how about a companion video? This one would be engines that don't necessarily kill themselves, but are so bad to live with that you wish they would. I suggest this because I never tire of hearing how bad the GM Iron Duke 2.5 four is, despite it being quite stout and long-lived.
Ahh, good old GM. I worked for them for sixteen years in the service area. That 3.6 is that bad and then some. Thankfully someone got rid of the "pesky"😉 3800 v-6. Too reliable, were not making any money off of their dependability, along comes the 3.6 money pits.
@@solocamo3654 Oh right, people were achieving 25-29 mpg. on the highway, had more than enough power to move H and C bodies, and there was the supercharged version available. The added "power" 🙄 sort of loses its appeal when waiting for a tow truck and a huge repair bill is in your future!
@@eddiestanley135 HP numbers sell cars and if you aren't competitive you lose out. Reliability issues unfortunately don't show up fast enough for most buyers to realize. This is why I don't really don't early adopt anything new.
As a long time owner of Vettes (now my C7) even their interpretation of cylinder deactivation leaves you avoiding using it (especially easy on my manual).....a tech that has yet to overcome its risks.....
I'm surprised not to see Jaguar on the list. I've heard a lot of horror stories, and there are companies that even make kits to swap GM engines for the Jaguar straight 6s, but it was one of my roommates in college that really sank it home. He had an early 80s XJ6 and it literally spent more time broken down that on the road. He even had two complete engine replacements in as many years. On the last one, he found out that Jaguar made some critical internal engine parts out of plastic and that was it. The last time I saw him he was driving his dad's Ford pickup. My worst car was a 99 VW Passat 1.8t. It was solid, had a great suspension, and felt up-scale to sit in, but the turbo never worked right. I took it to three different mechanics and none of the 'fixes' they did made any difference. It would rev just fine... up to about 1500-2000 rpm and would just stop accelerating. If I tried to push it, it would just bog and die. I didn't even get enough out of selling it to finish off the loan, so I was still paying off a car I no longer owned. That was in 2004 and I haven't owned a car that wasn't a Honda or Toyota since.
There are probably limited numbers of Jaguars being sold or in service in the US. A neighbor of mine had a 3.0 model for like 6 months. Nice looking car but junk on reliability. Now, another neighbor has the newer Jaguar. Sweet car not sure of how good it runs..
Most of these engines are 2000s engines, jaguar land rover during this time was owned by Ford, using mainly Ford engines, so some of the Ford engines in this list have been in jags and landys, however since their acquisition by tata their reliability has been fantastic, having better customer reports and feedback than competitors like bmw mercedes and audi
I have a broken 3.6L in the garage right now from you guessed it.... timing chain failure. This one has suffered from lack of oil changes and now consumes lots of oil, the pressure dipped and it jumped timing. P.S. glad to see the JLR 5.0 dropped off the list from a year ago. I have a 180k JLR 4.0 (known for being worse) that other than doing the timing set once has been rock solid, and my JLR 5.0 currently has 95k and all that one has needed so far is oil changes.
Ford 5.2-liter V8 Voodoo Coyote that came in the Mustang GT350 2015-2020 was plagued warranty work issues. The engines have been known to fail because of oil consumption problems.
I looked into buying one with 15k miles but after seeing the issues was a bit turned off from them when I realized an engine replacement was 20-25k for the voodoo.
I can’t believe the Pontiac Fiero engine isn’t on the list. I still say it’s the worst of all time. The only positive about owning one is that I did learn how to work on a vehicle
Little addition from a European here on the Mini/BMW N14… These engines were made in collaboration with PSA, and the engine was found in different configurations in various Peugeots and Citroens as well. Actually still up to this day… I own a Citroen C4 Coupe from 2010 that has one of these, and PSA calls it a EP6DT. So far it’s been all right, but these are before the engines got seriously bad. For these cars, the intakes tend to dirty up and need regular cleaning. Later though, the Citroen DS3 Racing had one of these tuned at 200+ hp and they straight up suffered from pistons warping or even breaking. So yeah, generally not a great engine unless you know what you’re getting into and do some preventive maintenance, and extra maintenance in general :)
Interesting thing to note, out of all the 6 cylinder engines out there I never hear about any inline 6 engines that are considered bad, I only hear about some V6 motors that are bad.
It's not just the EJ255/257 that have oil consumption issues. The early-series FB25s (starting in 2011) have that problem too. Ask me how I know. It took Subaru until 2016 to figure out how to stop those oil consumption problems.
@@ItzCashCam Back in the day, I used to live in the building with a guy who had the M6 V10, but with a full titanium exhaust and it would tickle your organs when it drove by. Luckily we lived on a slant, so I got to hear him run it hard uphill every morning. I've been next to dedicated drag cars and stock cars that were loud enough to hurt to stand close to, but there was something special about the way that V10 made noise.
I have owned my 2009 F-150 with the 5.4 Triton since new and have had absolutely no issues. Towing, hauling, long highway trips, driving up dirt roads to camp, and of course the normal day to day start and stop city driving. I always made sure to stay on top of all the maintenance to prevent known issues and have changed the oil frequently. Changed the plugs twice so far with no issues both times. Just passed 200k miles last month and still have not had any major issues since I drove it off the lot. Alternator, water pump, and a cracked coolant hose have been my only issues. I know a lot of people have not had such pleasant experiences with their Triton engines, but I'm just here to report to anybody looking to buy a used Ford with those engines that not all of them are nightmares.
I bought a 2011 Ranger with the Cologne engine brand new. I now have 200,000 miles on it without issue. The trick? Do the damn maintenance. The engine is tight, quiet, and burns no oil between changes. Oil has been changed every 6000 miles since new.
I have a '97 Mountaineer with the 302. The 6 bangers may be junk but the 302 is virtually bullet proof. Explorers get a bad rap for poor handling. The crap factory Firestones are the culprit. I have Michelins and the old Merc handles very well thank you.
Newer Subarus seem to have solved the head gasket problem but created a new problem by the factory engine sealant used. Seems that after a few years, and with proper maintenance, the sealant leaks in most places. Although Subaru will admit this problem (as a normal maintenance item in their words) they will not issue an extended warranty to cover the engine rebuild and reseal that is needed to fix it. A $5000 price.
Subaru Diesels tend to blow up. I have one and it was properly maintained, but after 295 000km/183 000 miles it decided to finally blow up, completely seized and destroyed.. There are many in sale with blown up engines in my country and no-one wants to buy them. Even with working engines diesel subarus don't sell very well
I'm surprised you guys didn't mention the EJ253. had a 06 2.5i Impreza two years ago and from my experience it was WORSE than my 06 WRX before the 2.5i headgasket blew up within less than 100 miles after getting the oil changed by a professional and other mechanical issues. Not just the EJ255/EJ257 are known to blow up, will admit, they ain't the same quality like the JDM EJs.
actually only the non turbos blow head gaskets and the fix for them is to swap to a STi gasket . pretty much anything less than a STi will explode if not maintained correctly with supporting reliability mods .
JDM EJs are the best, especially the EJ20, i have an EJ208 and it is twin turbo. The engine is running like new and making 340hp, you just need regular oil change every 4000-5000 km.
@@bigbodykarate6403 Can't go wrong with OEM Subie headgaskets or aftermarket headgaskets like Felpro. Ironically, I have a friend who had a customer once (not a dealership but worked at a local shop), who owned a 2002/2003 WRX sedan bugeye. Idk if they're still driving it or not, but I do know the owner didn't get a tune after the 1st rebuild, it had spun rod bearings and [maybe] ringland failure back in 2021. After the 1st rebuild, they didn't get the car tuned immediately which lead to a 2nd rebuild. Intersingly enough, the headgasket was intact, and the car (within the same year) had 250k+ miles on it. I hope that doesn't happen to you or someone you know bro especially the bugeye owner spent more than $5K-8K I think to get it on the road again. Ouch :/ Edit: Forgot to mention, I don't think you'd want to mod an NA EJ engine, compared to the ej255 and ej257.
@@skippylegrandgourou2069 Which car uses the EJ208? Dang sounds like it can kick my ej255's ass into the next week and I never heard of that particular engine before.
For the most part I’ve sworn off manufacturers of all engines listed for obvious reasons. With that said, I hope those manufacturers can lure customers back with quality product again. We shall see.
I am a certified Hyundai service advisor and worked in a service department during the Theta recalls. I can go ahead and confirm for you that I don't care if they're god's gift to motoring nowadays, I will never own one because of the bullshit I saw. I mean, every single day, it was more surprising if there wasn't one coming in with some sort of MAJOR issues if not a fully blown engine.
What do you think of the new Smart Stream engines that they started using in 2020? Do you think history will repeat itself, or did they improve things?
Family works in the salvage business. You can get 200k plus out of an ecoboost, easily. You just have to use a quality synthetic and change it every 3.5k like your life depends on it and the engines will hold up.
I don't agree with you all about the Subaru engines. It should have been ranked one, and I know Subaru enthusiasts says otherwise. For context, if you ask in a Subaru group "hey, so I was driving my car the other night and the water temps were slightly going up" the only response the Subaru community is "hey so you going to part it out? because your car is done, how much for that door?"
@@boboiboy9350 Petrol engines are well made mostly. The older 2.0 liter petrol (2010 legacy mostly used this engine) was burning a lot of oil and required premium fuel (98 octane europe). New 2.5 engines are all fine. Most reliable are probably all subaru 3.0 and 3.6 engines. Subaru Forester 2.0 should also be fine. Generally the new petrol engines are all ok, CVT must be serviced tho. It will fail if the oil is not changed. Recommended to change after every 60 000km.
From personal experience, and I've owned a TON of hot garbage, the VW 2.0T engines (all versions of them) are some of the *most reliably unreliable* 21st century engines ever produced. Which is a damn shame because a lot of the cars themselves attached to this shit heap (with proper traditional automatics & manuals that is, not counting DSG's or anything dual clutch from VW) are ironically some of the most reliable VW vehicles they've ever produced. Germany seems to be very good at releasing reliable cars with hilariously unreliable powerplants, or fairly decent powerplants crammed inside horrendously unreliable vehicles. The 2.0T is especially horrible when stuffed in big heavy beautiful CC's, a car that should have only ever been available in n/a 2.5-5's or VR6; Two good reliable torquey engines for a nice very well made and equiped vehicle which is a rare thing from VW
Had a 2014 Santa Fe with the 2.0T , prior to Hyundai getting sued into being forced to replace their engines. We kept up on the maintenance and it still blew at 120,000 km and they didn’t do a damn thing about despite extended warranty. On the plus side, that experience was so negative that we have moved to Toyota and will never buy anything except Toyota/honda now.
Just saying, you're not wrong about the VW 2.0 TSI having certain, um, issues... BUT... Replace the timing chain tensioner, renew the water pump at 100k, and replace all the plastic cooling bits... And it's a damn solid motor. Idk what you're saying about HPFP or intake cams. Never have I ever seen one die from either of those going bad. The old 2.0 FSI has issues with the HPFP interacting with and often destroying the lobes on the intake cam. Not so for the TSI. I'm at 195k on my daily driver running about 17-18# boost. The wife has 150k on her daily running stage 1 @14-15# boost. I got the wife's car cheap after previous owner fell victim to the timing tensioner issue. Replaced the bent valves with donors from a junkyard 2.5, and timing components (new OEM), and it's been a rockstar for her for the last 45,000 miles. Point being that yeah VW screwed up on the timing tensioner, but really once you fix that if you keep up with the oil changes and replace aging plastic bits in the cooling system, they're stellar and very reliable. Do not recommend for anyone who can't do their own work though!
As a former Sonic owner, I’ve had my problems with the 1.4 Ecotec and it sucks so much, I wanted to drive the car into a ditch. Luckily a Tesla did the job for me.
I have a sonic but in my country it comes with the 1.4 n/a version. Surprisingly i've had no major issue with it when it comes to the engine well, aside from the plastic parts falling apart.
Unfortunately, people not intimately involved with the professional's professional side of the industry and even those who are "factory trained" (which just means they took a very brief crash course in basic automotive repair for not even so long as one year) are never worth explaining some things to. Not even remotely
I’m watching this owning a 2002 accord and I’m happy I own this thing. Got a little bit of power and it’s very reliable. Only gas 120k miles and runs like it’s new. It’s the 2.3
The 6.0 is a gem compared to a 6.4. The 6.0 has its upside and downs but as far as working on it I will never work on a 6.4 ever again. From building 2JZ engines to small blocks the 6.4 diesel is the hardest engine I have ever worked on. The 6.0 still had charm from the 7.3 it was still simple and easy to work on and at the end of the day it's still a pushrod V8 you can work on.
For the Kia/Hyundai GDI Gamma engines. Were they improved on or do they still suffer from the same problems or whole new ones. Mine during winter cause you need to warm it up when it hits lower than -20C, she tends to over fuel and mixes with the oil.
There are outliers from every brand, even Land Rover has had some rides with 200k problem free miles, but you have to look at the average number of problems on recommended maintenance. That's what matters most.
Yes sir I bought a 2012 Audi Avant new. What a money pit. Hpp fuel pump failure, water pump failure, pistons and rings replaced. All prior to 50k. What am I driving now? Just traded my TTRS for a new S5. I suppose I’m a glutton for punishment.
We bought a 6.0 powerstroke a few years ago, knowing that it would probably fail at some point in the future. But hey, it only had 75,000 miles and a super low price on it so we're good till at least 150,000 before those pesky head bolts would need replacing right? RIGHT? Well, the EGR exploded 200 miles after purchase. Several thousand dollars of bulletproofing later I can confirm, avoid the 6.0.
What are your thoughts on the newer Hyundai Smart Stream engines that they replaced the crap Theta II engines with starting in 2020? I haven't seen anything about them online or on YT. Do you think these are good engines in terms of expected reliability?
Hi think you guys in USA have read the manuals wrong on someone messed up the transalation, the oil changes in Europe are advised to 10.000 to 15.000 Kms, not miles...
it's funny cause 1.6 ecotec na is a tank engine (ok after longer fast trip on autobahn it needed a touch of oil) but 1.4t is bad also Yugo engine was bad but 648cc used in Maluch (fiat 126p) is much worst my dad and grandpa are still saying that maluch was worst car than trabant
My 6.4 power stroke was a absolute nightmare, hands down worst vehicle iv ever had! Powerful, but super expensive, have to pull the cab for most repairs and constantly breaking down. Heads almost always crack
Had 4.0l sohc in explorer, replaced timing chains myself….with Amazon evergreen parts, ran good until I tried to race my bosses ram Cummins and shattered another guide, if u get one and do the chains always use Cloyes
My old 2.0TSI has some 260k km on the clock. I go 200+ km/h on a daily base. The engine runs smooth and needs almost no oil. It got a new chain at 160k km though.
I have a WRX 2014 and has never had a single issue. It actually has the original factory air filter. The issues with these engines occur after people start modifying them. Leave them alone and they will last.
Nothing at all can match the Chevy Vega 2.8L engine for being terrible. The first three years of production had a failure rate under warranty that exceeded 100%. Yes, they replaced many of them more than just once or twice. Those of us who are old enough to remember them may also recall the massive piles of the cores that were behind the dealer service departments. And it didn't have a cast iron *block* weith an aluminum *head*, it was the other way around. And that block was amazingly, incredibly awful.
Yikes that's awful luck to lose two turbos. Carbon cleaning is a fact of life for any modern direct injection engine. Ignition coils on VW and Audi have a lifespan somewhere in the 100k mile range. New set of 4 is $100, not bad at all for a 100k mile item. I have roughly 95k on my current set. Already have a new set ready and waiting for when one dies. 😂
I look out my backyard into my neighbors back yard to see not one but two old Toyota Camry in their yard dead. 2009 or something. Must be terrible people or something.
I used to daily my Sebring Convertible with the 2.7. It had so many issues stacking up, it's parked until I save some money to fix it. Only 69k on it. Sad how poorly engineered they are lol
@@thefreshprinceofgreenhills I'm probably $3,000 into the thing already. It needs shocks, clock spring inside of the steering wheel, blower motor and resistor. I haven't even got to the water pump, it kept eating up all the $ on little shit.
@@thefreshprinceofgreenhills I'm in Chicago, so it's not a great winter car. It does not hold heat well inside with the soft top and only works on high lol. I now daily a 06 PT Cruiser that I got a good deal on. The thing is hated by all, but runs great. And it's a fuck it car. I just send it.
I had a 2013 VW Tiguan with the 2.0 Tsi... Biggest POS engine I've ever experienced. There were other reliability issues too, drivers door sagging, panoramic sunroof shade broke and hung down on the sides, steering system failed and locked up... had to be completely replaced. All on a car with just over 100k miles and 3k mile oil changes. I'll never own another VW...
@@henrycary-smith4508velosters are mid in terms of reliability, not good but not terrible. I wouldn't try to abuse it tho, I know is supposed to be a sports car but if you use it as one you gonna blow up the engine
Come on!! The Vega did NOT have a cst-iron block, it had a silica-aluminum block. The same technology was used in the 450+ CID racing engines used in the Can-Am, but they only had to last about 3 hours between practicing and the race. Vegas didn't last much longer than that...then they became big oil pumps and killed mosquitoes for miles around. Note: GM's iron Duke 4 cylinder DID have an iron block, and it was much more durable...but it only made about 85hp and was installeed mostly in the dreaded Chevette, a car only slightly better than the Vega.
THe Chevette never had the 2.5. Trust me..I had 2 of them....both 1980 4-door......both with a 1.6. There were only 3 engines available for the Chevette throughout its run from 76 to 87: 1.4 gas 1.6 gas 1.8 diesel.
They updated a lot on the gen 2 platform. I had a gen one and once I fixed the issues it was quite reliable. Went another 60k without doing anything other then basic maintenance
There will always be the one guy that had zero problems and got 300k out of his Kia. Totally ignoring the data that shows how often they fail. I look at engines like gambling because none are perfect and have their weak points. I go buy the odds. Some engines have better odds to make 300k or more miles than other engines. I buy Toyota now and my reason is simple the odds are in my favor and I always get the highest resale and trade in values. They have the lowest total cost of ownership in most categories too. Does not mean I may not get a bad Toyota, but it would be very low odds that I do:P
The N63 WAS a shitty engine. But in honesty, it’s been around a long, long time & BMW has worked out many of the problems. And this is coming from a Mercedes/AMG lover. My Range Rover has the n63 and I’ve been living with it for a while now, with no issues. Even after going stage 2
Are you referring to their new Smart Stream engines? I haven't seen anything online or on YT about them. These came out in 2020, so if they were bad or have major issues, you would think that there would be videos are articles about them.
The six points for power stroke is pig, the 6.0 pre-2005 had so many issues which they finally rectified but it was too late because the name Had been tarnished horribly. Even then, the 2005 to 2007 6.0, it’s not something you can have reliably if you tune it Without a lot of investment. My 2005 king ranch 6.0 has 1/4 million miles. It is bone stock, I have the necessary monitoring computer to keep active awareness of How it is functioning. I don’t drive it on trips that are shorter than 15 minutes, I have a Buick 3800 for those. I use the 6.0 to routinely tow an 11,000 pound fifth wheel trailer/RV. Oil changes every 5000 miles or every six months which ever is closer. Coolant gets maintained religiously, both fuel filters get changed at every other or change, and the PCV valve gets cleaned at the same time as the fuel filters get changed. And finally, most importantly, use Ford parts and Ford fluids in these engines. There are horror stories, if you don’t. Those engines want a load to pull, and to be worked. These are not Honda civics, that you just hop in and beat silly. They are very capable machines, but don’t have to be a point of frustration, as long as it was never owned by a 16 year old boy who modded it, didn’t maintain it properly, and was cheap about any of it. I’ve owned it for several years, and my brother-in-law did for the prior eight. I am the third owner, it runs like a dream, and has never been modified.
Gm 3.6 I’m going to have to be honest yes I know they have timing chain issues but hey… the reason why is because people do not know how to maintain them they floor it go to 5-7k rpms late oil changes ofc it’s not surprising like any other v6 will have that problem if you do so it’s every engine but for real if you want the 3.6 to be at its most reliable I’d get a 2012-2016 Chevy impala limited, low tech, less features and overall easy and cheap to maintain
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Most of these engines are 2000s engines, jaguar land rover during this time was owned by Ford, using mainly Ford engines, so some of the Ford engines in this list have been in jags and landys, however since their acquisition by tata their reliability has been fantastic, having better customer reports and feedback than competitors like bmw mercedes and audi
Dont forget kia
Ahahahahaha you absolute legend!! 😂😂😂
The TDV6. Crank eating machine. No engine has made it to the mythical 100k kms
These engines all are known to fail badly, but how about a companion video? This one would be engines that don't necessarily kill themselves, but are so bad to live with that you wish they would. I suggest this because I never tire of hearing how bad the GM Iron Duke 2.5 four is, despite it being quite stout and long-lived.
🤔 That sounds like a pretty good sequel to me
Ahh, good old GM. I worked for them for sixteen years in the service area. That 3.6 is that bad and then some. Thankfully someone got rid of the "pesky"😉 3800 v-6. Too reliable, were not making any money off of their dependability, along comes the 3.6 money pits.
3800 just didn't have the efficiency nor power, though I'm definitely not justifying the disaster that is the 3.6.
@@solocamo3654consumers don't really care about efficiency if the engine is crazy realiable. The 3800 was a tank
@@marciliojunior4919 Interesting, didn't know it had such a reputation. I just remember GM's crappy 3.1 and 3.4.
@@solocamo3654 Oh right, people were achieving 25-29 mpg. on the highway, had more than enough power to move H and C bodies, and there was the supercharged version available. The added "power" 🙄 sort of loses its appeal when waiting for a tow truck and a huge repair bill is in your future!
@@eddiestanley135 HP numbers sell cars and if you aren't competitive you lose out. Reliability issues unfortunately don't show up fast enough for most buyers to realize. This is why I don't really don't early adopt anything new.
As a long time owner of Vettes (now my C7) even their interpretation of cylinder deactivation leaves you avoiding using it (especially easy on my manual).....a tech that has yet to overcome its risks.....
I'm surprised not to see Jaguar on the list. I've heard a lot of horror stories, and there are companies that even make kits to swap GM engines for the Jaguar straight 6s, but it was one of my roommates in college that really sank it home. He had an early 80s XJ6 and it literally spent more time broken down that on the road. He even had two complete engine replacements in as many years. On the last one, he found out that Jaguar made some critical internal engine parts out of plastic and that was it. The last time I saw him he was driving his dad's Ford pickup.
My worst car was a 99 VW Passat 1.8t. It was solid, had a great suspension, and felt up-scale to sit in, but the turbo never worked right. I took it to three different mechanics and none of the 'fixes' they did made any difference. It would rev just fine... up to about 1500-2000 rpm and would just stop accelerating. If I tried to push it, it would just bog and die. I didn't even get enough out of selling it to finish off the loan, so I was still paying off a car I no longer owned. That was in 2004 and I haven't owned a car that wasn't a Honda or Toyota since.
There are probably limited numbers of Jaguars being sold or in service in the US. A neighbor of mine had a 3.0 model for like 6 months. Nice looking car but junk on reliability. Now, another neighbor has the newer Jaguar. Sweet car not sure of how good it runs..
Most of these engines are 2000s engines, jaguar land rover during this time was owned by Ford, using mainly Ford engines, so some of the Ford engines in this list have been in jags and landys, however since their acquisition by tata their reliability has been fantastic, having better customer reports and feedback than competitors like bmw mercedes and audi
I have a broken 3.6L in the garage right now from you guessed it.... timing chain failure. This one has suffered from lack of oil changes and now consumes lots of oil, the pressure dipped and it jumped timing.
P.S. glad to see the JLR 5.0 dropped off the list from a year ago. I have a 180k JLR 4.0 (known for being worse) that other than doing the timing set once has been rock solid, and my JLR 5.0 currently has 95k and all that one has needed so far is oil changes.
There's a reason why Hyundai and Kia have crazy warranty with their vehicles 😂
What about the Kia Rio/forte? They don’t go too fast & proper maintenance they shouldn’t fail unless you get a lemon
@@dbzownz12345 so far i believe newer fortes like 2016+ish seem pretty alright, at least what ive seen but early 2010s dont seem that good
Ford products not made in the US. by (UNION WORKERS💩)
It wasn't the entire run of the northstar that was junk though. 95-2005 were head gasket explodemobiles, but 2006-2011 they're a very reliable engine
Ford 5.2-liter V8 Voodoo Coyote that came in the Mustang GT350 2015-2020 was plagued warranty work issues. The engines have been known to fail because of oil consumption problems.
I looked into buying one with 15k miles but after seeing the issues was a bit turned off from them when I realized an engine replacement was 20-25k for the voodoo.
yeah kinda disappointing because the sound from that engine is immaculate
There is nothing you can do for the 6.4, however there is a lot that can be done to make the 6.0 decent, but its still a 6.0.
I can’t believe the Pontiac Fiero engine isn’t on the list. I still say it’s the worst of all time. The only positive about owning one is that I did learn how to work on a vehicle
the Iron Duke really isnt that bad
What about the Chevrolet Vega and it’s sleeveless aluminum block
Yeah I don’t even want to talk about that
Speaking of Toyota, the 2az, which burns hilarious amounts of oil
Little addition from a European here on the Mini/BMW N14…
These engines were made in collaboration with PSA, and the engine was found in different configurations in various Peugeots and Citroens as well. Actually still up to this day…
I own a Citroen C4 Coupe from 2010 that has one of these, and PSA calls it a EP6DT. So far it’s been all right, but these are before the engines got seriously bad. For these cars, the intakes tend to dirty up and need regular cleaning.
Later though, the Citroen DS3 Racing had one of these tuned at 200+ hp and they straight up suffered from pistons warping or even breaking. So yeah, generally not a great engine unless you know what you’re getting into and do some preventive maintenance, and extra maintenance in general :)
Interesting thing to note, out of all the 6 cylinder engines out there I never hear about any inline 6 engines that are considered bad, I only hear about some V6 motors that are bad.
It's not just the EJ255/257 that have oil consumption issues. The early-series FB25s (starting in 2011) have that problem too. Ask me how I know. It took Subaru until 2016 to figure out how to stop those oil consumption problems.
You tell em jeff
My ex dropped 20k on a Veloster. Couldnt be happier knowing that thing is a bigger piece of junk than i originally thought it was.
Damn dude thats close to a brand new civic
BMWs 10 cylinder m5 should be on here
I mean it does have issues but still makes a lot of power and sounds great. If the title was least reliable engines then yes this would be one 😂
That was a good engine with 2 issues, no? The rod bearings and throttle actuators?
@@Bmwguy2011 something like that they made a huge power, but they always had catastrophic engine failure if I remember correctly
@@ItzCashCam Back in the day, I used to live in the building with a guy who had the M6 V10, but with a full titanium exhaust and it would tickle your organs when it drove by. Luckily we lived on a slant, so I got to hear him run it hard uphill every morning.
I've been next to dedicated drag cars and stock cars that were loud enough to hurt to stand close to, but there was something special about the way that V10 made noise.
That car needs to change rod bearings every 50000-60000 kilometers
How about the Deathstar aka Northstar 4.6
It was number 15 on the video...
They left out the 4100.
What about after 2006?
I have owned my 2009 F-150 with the 5.4 Triton since new and have had absolutely no issues. Towing, hauling, long highway trips, driving up dirt roads to camp, and of course the normal day to day start and stop city driving. I always made sure to stay on top of all the maintenance to prevent known issues and have changed the oil frequently. Changed the plugs twice so far with no issues both times. Just passed 200k miles last month and still have not had any major issues since I drove it off the lot. Alternator, water pump, and a cracked coolant hose have been my only issues. I know a lot of people have not had such pleasant experiences with their Triton engines, but I'm just here to report to anybody looking to buy a used Ford with those engines that not all of them are nightmares.
I bought a 2011 Ranger with the Cologne engine brand new. I now have 200,000 miles on it without issue. The trick? Do the damn maintenance. The engine is tight, quiet, and burns no oil between changes. Oil has been changed every 6000 miles since new.
How about engines that need maintenance but people didn't do it.
I have a '97 Mountaineer with the 302. The 6 bangers may be junk but the 302 is virtually bullet proof. Explorers get a bad rap for poor handling. The crap factory Firestones are the culprit. I have Michelins and the old Merc handles very well thank you.
Newer Subarus seem to have solved the head gasket problem but created a new problem by the factory engine sealant used. Seems that after a few years, and with proper maintenance, the sealant leaks in most places. Although Subaru will admit this problem (as a normal maintenance item in their words) they will not issue an extended warranty to cover the engine rebuild and reseal that is needed to fix it. A $5000 price.
Subaru Diesels tend to blow up. I have one and it was properly maintained, but after 295 000km/183 000 miles it decided to finally blow up, completely seized and destroyed.. There are many in sale with blown up engines in my country and no-one wants to buy them. Even with working engines diesel subarus don't sell very well
Do you think the 2023 Forester is plagued with this issues too?
I have a 07 ford expedition limited for 7 years and I never had that issues you have mentioned 😊
The real disaster is the Land Rover engines
The early 4.0 v6 Ford are tanks.
I'm surprised you guys didn't mention the EJ253. had a 06 2.5i Impreza two years ago and from my experience it was WORSE than my 06 WRX before the 2.5i headgasket blew up within less than 100 miles after getting the oil changed by a professional and other mechanical issues. Not just the EJ255/EJ257 are known to blow up, will admit, they ain't the same quality like the JDM EJs.
actually only the non turbos blow head gaskets and the fix for them is to swap to a STi gasket . pretty much anything less than a STi will explode if not maintained correctly with supporting reliability mods .
JDM EJs are the best, especially the EJ20, i have an EJ208 and it is twin turbo. The engine is running like new and making 340hp, you just need regular oil change every 4000-5000 km.
@@bigbodykarate6403 Can't go wrong with OEM Subie headgaskets or aftermarket headgaskets like Felpro. Ironically, I have a friend who had a customer once (not a dealership but worked at a local shop), who owned a 2002/2003 WRX sedan bugeye. Idk if they're still driving it or not, but I do know the owner didn't get a tune after the 1st rebuild, it had spun rod bearings and [maybe] ringland failure back in 2021. After the 1st rebuild, they didn't get the car tuned immediately which lead to a 2nd rebuild. Intersingly enough, the headgasket was intact, and the car (within the same year) had 250k+ miles on it. I hope that doesn't happen to you or someone you know bro especially the bugeye owner spent more than $5K-8K I think to get it on the road again. Ouch :/
Edit: Forgot to mention, I don't think you'd want to mod an NA EJ engine, compared to the ej255 and ej257.
@@skippylegrandgourou2069 Which car uses the EJ208? Dang sounds like it can kick my ej255's ass into the next week and I never heard of that particular engine before.
Didn't the Vega have an aluminum block and iron heads, not the other way around?
correct, later blocks had iron liners
For the most part I’ve sworn off manufacturers of all engines listed for obvious reasons. With that said, I hope those manufacturers can lure customers back with quality product again. We shall see.
I am a certified Hyundai service advisor and worked in a service department during the Theta recalls. I can go ahead and confirm for you that I don't care if they're god's gift to motoring nowadays, I will never own one because of the bullshit I saw. I mean, every single day, it was more surprising if there wasn't one coming in with some sort of MAJOR issues if not a fully blown engine.
What do you think of the new Smart Stream engines that they started using in 2020? Do you think history will repeat itself, or did they improve things?
@@MrFalcman I honestly don't know enough about them to tell you. I was out of that line of work prior to their introduction.
Family works in the salvage business. You can get 200k plus out of an ecoboost, easily. You just have to use a quality synthetic and change it every 3.5k like your life depends on it and the engines will hold up.
Fortunately we never got some of these engines in Australia but we get the crappy Kias and Horrible Hyundai's l will never buy one never
I got a e25 going on 400000 miles and its 80k miles over due of an oil change
I don't agree with you all about the Subaru engines. It should have been ranked one, and I know Subaru enthusiasts says otherwise. For context, if you ask in a Subaru group "hey, so I was driving my car the other night and the water temps were slightly going up" the only response the Subaru community is "hey so you going to part it out? because your car is done, how much for that door?"
Subaru Diesel, EE20z has to be the worst. They all just blow up, even the newest ones do blow up.
Do you think the new Forester is plagued with this issues too?
@@boboiboy9350 are you asking about petrol or diesel engine?
@@TheBestGames974 it should be petrol
@@boboiboy9350 Petrol engines are well made mostly. The older 2.0 liter petrol (2010 legacy mostly used this engine) was burning a lot of oil and required premium fuel (98 octane europe). New 2.5 engines are all fine. Most reliable are probably all subaru 3.0 and 3.6 engines. Subaru Forester 2.0 should also be fine. Generally the new petrol engines are all ok, CVT must be serviced tho. It will fail if the oil is not changed. Recommended to change after every 60 000km.
From personal experience, and I've owned a TON of hot garbage, the VW 2.0T engines (all versions of them) are some of the *most reliably unreliable* 21st century engines ever produced. Which is a damn shame because a lot of the cars themselves attached to this shit heap (with proper traditional automatics & manuals that is, not counting DSG's or anything dual clutch from VW) are ironically some of the most reliable VW vehicles they've ever produced. Germany seems to be very good at releasing reliable cars with hilariously unreliable powerplants, or fairly decent powerplants crammed inside horrendously unreliable vehicles. The 2.0T is especially horrible when stuffed in big heavy beautiful CC's, a car that should have only ever been available in n/a 2.5-5's or VR6; Two good reliable torquey engines for a nice very well made and equiped vehicle which is a rare thing from VW
Had a 2014 Santa Fe with the 2.0T , prior to Hyundai getting sued into being forced to replace their engines. We kept up on the maintenance and it still blew at 120,000 km and they didn’t do a damn thing about despite extended warranty.
On the plus side, that experience was so negative that we have moved to Toyota and will never buy anything except Toyota/honda now.
Funny how we Americans love Explosions everywhere. Even if that means our engines
Just saying, you're not wrong about the VW 2.0 TSI having certain, um, issues... BUT... Replace the timing chain tensioner, renew the water pump at 100k, and replace all the plastic cooling bits... And it's a damn solid motor. Idk what you're saying about HPFP or intake cams. Never have I ever seen one die from either of those going bad. The old 2.0 FSI has issues with the HPFP interacting with and often destroying the lobes on the intake cam. Not so for the TSI. I'm at 195k on my daily driver running about 17-18# boost. The wife has 150k on her daily running stage 1 @14-15# boost. I got the wife's car cheap after previous owner fell victim to the timing tensioner issue. Replaced the bent valves with donors from a junkyard 2.5, and timing components (new OEM), and it's been a rockstar for her for the last 45,000 miles. Point being that yeah VW screwed up on the timing tensioner, but really once you fix that if you keep up with the oil changes and replace aging plastic bits in the cooling system, they're stellar and very reliable. Do not recommend for anyone who can't do their own work though!
As a former Sonic owner, I’ve had my problems with the 1.4 Ecotec and it sucks so much, I wanted to drive the car into a ditch. Luckily a Tesla did the job for me.
Yeah the 1.4 Ecotec is terrible. The 1.8 is alot better
I have a sonic but in my country it comes with the 1.4 n/a version. Surprisingly i've had no major issue with it when it comes to the engine well, aside from the plastic parts falling apart.
Unfortunately, people not intimately involved with the professional's professional side of the industry and even those who are "factory trained" (which just means they took a very brief crash course in basic automotive repair for not even so long as one year) are never worth explaining some things to. Not even remotely
NOW YALL GOTS TO DO BEST ENGINE LIST!!!!
I've had 3 WRX's and 3 Outback's and I'm 4 for 6 for blown engines. And one of the Outback's was even an H6!
I have been watching the videos for Hyundai and KIA 4 cylinder engine problems, so glad i got the 3.3 litre v-6. Same highway fuel mileage too.😊
I’m watching this owning a 2002 accord and I’m happy I own this thing. Got a little bit of power and it’s very reliable. Only gas 120k miles and runs like it’s new. It’s the 2.3
The 6.0 is a gem compared to a 6.4. The 6.0 has its upside and downs but as far as working on it I will never work on a 6.4 ever again. From building 2JZ engines to small blocks the 6.4 diesel is the hardest engine I have ever worked on. The 6.0 still had charm from the 7.3 it was still simple and easy to work on and at the end of the day it's still a pushrod V8 you can work on.
For the Kia/Hyundai GDI Gamma engines. Were they improved on or do they still suffer from the same problems or whole new ones. Mine during winter cause you need to warm it up when it hits lower than -20C, she tends to over fuel and mixes with the oil.
Subaru sycophants will find every excuse in the book to blame owners for flaws even subaru has admitted to but NEVER remedied.
There are outliers from every brand, even Land Rover has had some rides with 200k problem free miles, but you have to look at the average number of problems on recommended maintenance. That's what matters most.
Seen a 1975 Chevy p/u with a 350 with 300,000 and engine has never been opened up other than replacing gaskets or seals.
Yes sir I bought a 2012 Audi Avant new. What a money pit. Hpp fuel pump failure, water pump failure, pistons and rings replaced. All prior to 50k. What am I driving now? Just traded my TTRS for a new S5. I suppose I’m a glutton for punishment.
We bought a 6.0 powerstroke a few years ago, knowing that it would probably fail at some point in the future. But hey, it only had 75,000 miles and a super low price on it so we're good till at least 150,000 before those pesky head bolts would need replacing right? RIGHT? Well, the EGR exploded 200 miles after purchase. Several thousand dollars of bulletproofing later I can confirm, avoid the 6.0.
Ive got 433k+ on a '95 ej22. One head gasket since 187k at about 255k. Best machine ive ever owned.
What are your thoughts on the newer Hyundai Smart Stream engines that they replaced the crap Theta II engines with starting in 2020? I haven't seen anything about them online or on YT. Do you think these are good engines in terms of expected reliability?
Hi think you guys in USA have read the manuals wrong on someone messed up the transalation, the oil changes in Europe are advised to 10.000 to 15.000 Kms, not miles...
I own an 09 VW GTI with the 2.0L TSI engine. I am saddly part of the chain gang
My 2011 cts has been great. 115k and still going strong. After 2011 the 3.6 was good as long as you changed the oil
it's funny cause 1.6 ecotec na is a tank engine (ok after longer fast trip on autobahn it needed a touch of oil) but 1.4t is bad also Yugo engine was bad but 648cc used in Maluch (fiat 126p) is much worst my dad and grandpa are still saying that maluch was worst car than trabant
My 6.4 power stroke was a absolute nightmare, hands down worst vehicle iv ever had! Powerful, but super expensive, have to pull the cab for most repairs and constantly breaking down. Heads almost always crack
Had 4.0l sohc in explorer, replaced timing chains myself….with Amazon evergreen parts, ran good until I tried to race my bosses ram Cummins and shattered another guide, if u get one and do the chains always use Cloyes
Not seeing a 4.7 v8 on these lists makes me think they forgot about it (I own a 4.7)
The ford 2.0 turbo in the edges shoulda made the list
Is the 2010 Chevy camaro 3.6 actually bullet proof as long as you change the oil?
My old 2.0TSI has some 260k km on the clock. I go 200+ km/h on a daily base. The engine runs smooth and needs almost no oil. It got a new chain at 160k km though.
Lol that first clip.. try that on majority of cars and the same outcome will be achieved 🤣
The Vega actually had an aluminum BLOCK and cast iron head.
So true about the VW 2.0 TSI I had a 2013 Jetta GLI that was great until it reached 70k after that it started to fall apart with carbon buildup.
I have a WRX 2014 and has never had a single issue. It actually has the original factory air filter. The issues with these engines occur after people start modifying them. Leave them alone and they will last.
I hope that's true. My sister has a newer Forester and I'd like to see that thing last her for many years to come.
weird that you mentioned the ej engine but not the subaru diesel that is soo famous for being unreliable that makes a renesis engine look reliable
Every italian cross-plane V8?
Nothing at all can match the Chevy Vega 2.8L engine for being terrible. The first three years of production had a failure rate under warranty that exceeded 100%. Yes, they replaced many of them more than just once or twice. Those of us who are old enough to remember them may also recall the massive piles of the cores that were behind the dealer service departments. And it didn't have a cast iron *block* weith an aluminum *head*, it was the other way around. And that block was amazingly, incredibly awful.
With all these, I'll never understand why French cars get a bad rap
Because it fails Everything else and this video was made by americans in europe the 2.0 tsi is reliable
They make the worlds best small turbodiesels 1.6 -2.0 HDi by Peugeot/Citroën. 100 times more reliable than Any german diesel made the last 25 years.
Have a 2016 veloster turbo. 100k+ so far. I keep up with maintenance do most of it myself ^^. Haven’t had any issues so far.
Some are time bombs 😂😂
Wait, why not mention that most EJ failures are from poor maintenance, while shipping them off to the moon with crap mods and questionable tuning?
Had a 12 GLI two turbos 5 Ignition coils and 4 carbon build up cleans and a catastrophic failure all before 130k
Yikes that's awful luck to lose two turbos. Carbon cleaning is a fact of life for any modern direct injection engine. Ignition coils on VW and Audi have a lifespan somewhere in the 100k mile range. New set of 4 is $100, not bad at all for a 100k mile item. I have roughly 95k on my current set. Already have a new set ready and waiting for when one dies. 😂
Yall scaring me with that Ford Explorer stuff. I daily a 2016 Explorer Platinum and it has 128k miles without anything major happening.
Thankfully i got fa20 , tho the tune is straight garbage, a protune was the fix
I look out my backyard into my neighbors back yard to see not one but two old Toyota Camry in their yard dead. 2009 or something. Must be terrible people or something.
I think i dodged a bullet replacing the water pump on my 2.7 V6, yes i daily it and yes i know i know lmaooo
I used to daily my Sebring Convertible with the 2.7. It had so many issues stacking up, it's parked until I save some money to fix it. Only 69k on it. Sad how poorly engineered they are lol
@@tylerc7037 lol you are not wrong
@@thefreshprinceofgreenhills I'm probably $3,000 into the thing already. It needs shocks, clock spring inside of the steering wheel, blower motor and resistor. I haven't even got to the water pump, it kept eating up all the $ on little shit.
@@tylerc7037 damn sorry to hear that man, so what are your plans now, are you letting it go?
@@thefreshprinceofgreenhills I'm in Chicago, so it's not a great winter car. It does not hold heat well inside with the soft top and only works on high lol. I now daily a 06 PT Cruiser that I got a good deal on. The thing is hated by all, but runs great. And it's a fuck it car. I just send it.
They didn't use a small block 350 they used an olds 350. There is a considerable difference, still not good
I had a 2013 VW Tiguan with the 2.0 Tsi... Biggest POS engine I've ever experienced. There were other reliability issues too, drivers door sagging, panoramic sunroof shade broke and hung down on the sides, steering system failed and locked up... had to be completely replaced.
All on a car with just over 100k miles and 3k mile oil changes.
I'll never own another VW...
Which cars have these theta engines in the hyundai lineup😮💨
Hyundai Elantra (Avoid)
Hyundai Sonata (Aviod with all your might)
Don't know the reat
@@Grimreaper-g2i how about the veloster. The 1.6 gdi non turbo engine. I'm interested in it so this is worrisome to me
@@henrycary-smith4508velosters are mid in terms of reliability, not good but not terrible. I wouldn't try to abuse it tho, I know is supposed to be a sports car but if you use it as one you gonna blow up the engine
@@marciliojunior4919 thx. My fiancé really likes the car. More for the aesthetic than anything else. Will see what she thinks about this later...
What no Chrylser 3.6 liter ? Or their 2.4 liter Multiair?
If I ever get a Hyundai/Kia always make sure it's manufactured in a good place like korea, a bad place that it is manufactured is mexico
They are building many of the new Sportages and Tucson's at their plant in Georgia, USA. I wonder if those are any good.
for toyota Id nominate the 2gr/3gr-fse instead, as it kills the actual block and the repair is .. well a replacement :(
Come on!! The Vega did NOT have a cst-iron block, it had a silica-aluminum block. The same technology was used in the 450+ CID racing engines used in the Can-Am, but they only had to last about 3 hours between practicing and the race. Vegas didn't last much longer than that...then they became big oil pumps and killed mosquitoes for miles around. Note: GM's iron Duke 4 cylinder DID have an iron block, and it was much more durable...but it only made about 85hp and was installeed mostly in the dreaded Chevette, a car only slightly better than the Vega.
THe Chevette never had the 2.5. Trust me..I had 2 of them....both 1980 4-door......both with a 1.6.
There were only 3 engines available for the Chevette throughout its run from 76 to 87:
1.4 gas
1.6 gas
1.8 diesel.
I have a 2016 Chevy Cruze Lt with a turbo and it has 54,500 miles on the odometer and not had the oil lines hadn’t clog yet
They updated a lot on the gen 2 platform. I had a gen one and once I fixed the issues it was quite reliable. Went another 60k without doing anything other then basic maintenance
250K on my Magnum's AFB HEMI, Then I sold it foe 3 grand.
There will always be the one guy that had zero problems and got 300k out of his Kia. Totally ignoring the data that shows how often they fail. I look at engines like gambling because none are perfect and have their weak points. I go buy the odds. Some engines have better odds to make 300k or more miles than other engines. I buy Toyota now and my reason is simple the odds are in my favor and I always get the highest resale and trade in values. They have the lowest total cost of ownership in most categories too. Does not mean I may not get a bad Toyota, but it would be very low odds that I do:P
The N63 WAS a shitty engine. But in honesty, it’s been around a long, long time & BMW has worked out many of the problems. And this is coming from a Mercedes/AMG lover. My Range Rover has the n63 and I’ve been living with it for a while now, with no issues. Even after going stage 2
I could find a flaw in any engine, I just don’t make videos about it
The toyota 4.0 didn't replace the 3.slow. that was replaced by the bullet proof 3.4
No 2.5 iron Duke from GM? It burned down several Fieros. I had a 1989 s10 that had one. Not the greatest or most powerful 4 cylinders you could have.
Kia/hyundai nu engines are also garbage
Are you referring to their new Smart Stream engines? I haven't seen anything online or on YT about them. These came out in 2020, so if they were bad or have major issues, you would think that there would be videos are articles about them.
The six points for power stroke is pig, the 6.0 pre-2005 had so many issues which they finally rectified but it was too late because the name Had been tarnished horribly. Even then, the 2005 to 2007 6.0, it’s not something you can have reliably if you tune it Without a lot of investment. My 2005 king ranch 6.0 has 1/4 million miles. It is bone stock, I have the necessary monitoring computer to keep active awareness of How it is functioning. I don’t drive it on trips that are shorter than 15 minutes, I have a Buick 3800 for those. I use the 6.0 to routinely tow an 11,000 pound fifth wheel trailer/RV. Oil changes every 5000 miles or every six months which ever is closer. Coolant gets maintained religiously, both fuel filters get changed at every other or change, and the PCV valve gets cleaned at the same time as the fuel filters get changed. And finally, most importantly, use Ford parts and Ford fluids in these engines. There are horror stories, if you don’t. Those engines want a load to pull, and to be worked. These are not Honda civics, that you just hop in and beat silly. They are very capable machines, but don’t have to be a point of frustration, as long as it was never owned by a 16 year old boy who modded it, didn’t maintain it properly, and was cheap about any of it. I’ve owned it for several years, and my brother-in-law did for the prior eight. I am the third owner, it runs like a dream, and has never been modified.
Avoid turbos and DFI.
Gm 3.6 I’m going to have to be honest yes I know they have timing chain issues but hey… the reason why is because people do not know how to maintain them they floor it go to 5-7k rpms late oil changes ofc it’s not surprising like any other v6 will have that problem if you do so it’s every engine but for real if you want the 3.6 to be at its most reliable I’d get a 2012-2016 Chevy impala limited, low tech, less features and overall easy and cheap to maintain
K20 is where it's at. But I own 2 volvos a t6 polestar and a v8. So I'm dumb
What about the m271 from Mercedes c230 ??