Actually, there's a reason why Yuno and, at the time, Noelle can use Spirit Dive and Fuegoleon can't. See, Yuno has Bell, or Sylph, and Noelle had Undine, two of the Four Great Attributes. Fuegoleon has Salamander, but there's a catch: Salamander is known for being a fierce and independent spirit that has a unique relationship with its users. Unlike Sylph and Undine, Salamander does not form the same kind of emotional bond that is necessary for Spirit Dive. Fuegoleon is a very powerful Magic Captain, yes, but his connection with Salamander may not be as emotionally resonant as Yuno's with Sylph or Noelle's with Undine. This difference in compatibility affects his ability to utilize Spirit Dive. Salamander has its own will and may require a different kind of acknowledgment or relationship that Fuegoleon has yet to establish, making it challenging for him to perform Spirit Dive.
I like to think a weight was lifted off of Yuno's shoulders once Asta arrived, like imagine carrying a kingdom at 18 years old and your rival, the only one who has an edge up on you is gone and your left alone as the strongest
when patry was fighting julius, julius stopped one of patry’s light swords, and then sped it up and sent it back at patry; another reason why light speed isn’t the cap for the black clover verse
Mereoliona may be intangible but she’s still mana. Considering Dorothy’s Glamour World is intangible and only the staff that exists in it are tangible. Black Moon and Dimension Slash very much would do the trick for Yami. Thanks for the new video
True, but Morris was able to overpower Glamour World with Lucifero's magic, which is said to overpower intangible concepts, yet when Morris is even stronger than that, he can't touch Leona at all. I don't think Black Moon or Dimension Slash would be able to just immediately stop her, but it's still up to debate
@@Goldyboi2001 True, but that doesn't mean it immediately overpowers everything. If that was the case, he would've completely overwhelmed Dante's gravity instead of just creating a space for himself. It's similar to how Langris was able to create a small domain using Mana Zone within Zenon's Absolute Space. It's limited because of the force it's fighting against.
Mereo is not intangible, just like One Piece logia type. She just turns element body like Ace body turns into fire. Still can be touched. Fuego lost his arm and he make his fire arm like Kuzan lost one leg and he just make an ice leg.
Personally I’d argue Yuno is FAR stronger than Yami. Besides the fact that we know NeverNeverland gives people a significant boost since before it a mere angel was capable of one shotting a vice captain, yet with NeverNeverland even low tier characters can battle it out with the angels, Yuno’s fight with Lucius REQUIRED he couldn’t get hit once, if he did he’d die and NeverNeverland gets undone and everyone loses, and he knows it. Which means he has to be extra careful since if his soul gets taken and Lucius can use time magic its game over. With that in mind, it makes sense he wasn’t able to go all out in comparison to Yami, since he has to watch out for ANY possible tricks the ruler of time may have up his sleeve, meaning he has to be far more cautious. Without NeverNeverland Yami is likely blitzed and one shot by current Yuno at max power
That's a lame argument i would say ...I know he have to take an extra effort to activate Never Never land but it doesn't mean he have to hold back for anything....he and bell stored up mana and created that spell to specifically to fight Lucius at his full might along with his subordinates.....And its not like he has any reason to hold back until then Yuno didn't know that wasn't real Lucius just a clone..So it was do and die situation for him, if he take down him its all over... And as we see he had so much struggle to take down that clone that he almost at his limit....And he almost gonna verge to fall if Asta didn't arrived...
Yami's demon god form is far stronger than Yuno whether it on raw strength or the attack power and even healing and there is no doubts..and the thing is Yami is always stronger than Yuno whether its on the current arc or the Spaid kingdom arc....As we see it against Lucifero where Lucifero just knock out Yuno (saint spirit form)after 2 punch and even broke his saint spirit of Zephyr...all the fighting is done by Asta and Yami he prity much did the supporting stuf.....On the other hand Yami just block Luciferos punch with ease and Lucifero just getting serious after Yami entered in battle.... except Asta he is the only one able to hurt Lucifero and accepted that Yami has the potential to kill him.... And for the current arc Yami(demon god) just one shot Lucius clone like its nothing.....and he is going on par with paladian Morgan who is said to far more stronger than Lucius clone .... Morgan have to use his strongest light× dark magic spell but Yami still able to keep up at equal terms and with Ichika and Nacht; they even surpassed Morgan and take him down....But in case of Yuno it took him almost everything to take down Lucius one clone....and he was no match for the 2 clone of Lucius....
@@Hokage_hideout the point is besides the effort to keep and maintain the spell to such a large degree of land mass, you have to keep in mind the context of the situation. Lucius has the ability to take your soul out and fuse it just by touching you, which is an instant death. If Yuno dies and Never Neverland is undone, EVERYONE loses, that’s not a debate or a question, if the angels alone were strong enough to make fodder out of the vice captains, imagine how much stronger the paladins would be alongside the Lucius clones and Lucius himself…. It wouldn’t even be a fight without NeverNeverland. That’s how much the spell is amplifying everyone, INCLUDING YAMI, which means without it, Yuno is far stronger. This also makes sense logically. Vangence and Yami have always been portrayed to be relative with Yami or William being slightly stronger on an arc to arc basis. William has a great performance against Xenon with context, unlike Yami who got an all out fight with Dante, William had to focus on keeping his squad members alive, and still managed to hold off Xenon until Yuno wrapped up his fight with that split focus, implying he might have been able to win completely on his own had he gone all out in a fight…. This is imprtant because BASE Yuno was so strong William instantly made him captain of the Golden Dawn by seeing him, this isn’t even zephyr or Saint stage, or Neverneverland yet, it’s just BASE Yuno, that alone should tell you everything you need to know about the stat difference here… So again Yuno is buffing Yami in this current scenario, in an actual fight he’d be getting nerfed. Which means even if you argued their stats were relative (which they aren’t when Neverneverland isn’t helping Yami) Yami is getting STOMPED….
@@Hokage_hideout let’s actually look at the differences between Yami’s fight with the Lucius clone, and Yuno’s to prove how illogical your argument is. 1) Did Yuno have any help with fighting Lucius? NO 2) Does Yami have to worry as much about getting touched by Lucius? NO 3) Has Yami ALWAYS been stronger the Yuno? NO I’m gonna go over those two points now. Yami was in a 3v2 with the help of Ichika and Nacht, both of whom amplify his power significantly on top of the boost from Neverneverland due to combo spells that perfectly feed into each other. Even if at first it was ONLY Ichika helping him… and again as I brought up earlier, while Yami could cut loose because if he died there are more people to take his place in this fight, if Yuno dies or becomes a Paladin everyone LOSES. It’s not a question up for debate, if Neverneverland is undone or worse switched over so the paladins get it, every single person fighting for the Clover Kingdom is getting stomped because of how nerfed they will be. It’s why Yuno developed his shield, so Lucius couldn’t touch him and then take his soul and end up using his power for his own benefit. As for Three, Yuno actually DID surpass Yami in the spade arc by unlocking Star magic. While Yami had William’s sword with all his mana amping him, he could ONLY scratch Lucius, and while Yuno could not do the same, in an actual fight Yuno is stomping Yami at this point. Not only is he far faster in Saint Stage, but on top of that there AP is around the same with Yami’s being slightly higher, and Yuno can Teleport and make stars so strong they negate Lucifero’s gravity… and make a minefield’s worth of stars to teleport too. In an actual fight Yuno just teleportes behind or in front of or in the side of Yami and cuts him over and over again until he dies even in the spade arc, and now that he mastered Star and Wind magic, since Yuno could block a combo spell from all the angels with no difficulty in BASE with one simple shield spell of Star Magic, it isn’t hard to believe he could deflect a non NeverNeverland amped Yami’s attacks on his own….
That was Finral teleporting Asta and Yuno past the Lucius clones. We see them fail to pass the initial clones on their first attempt. And we see Finral with one arm using antimagic pointing towards Asta, and one arm using magic towards Yuno.
This is actually something that not a single person has ever mentioned! This is certainly a possible way to see it, and I’m leaning towards that now. If that’s the case… yami whoops!
That’s facts plus everyone is also buffed up by yuno’s spell too, if these clowns were able to use gravity singularity spells it would be hell for these guys 😂 there’s only standing a chance due to the asta, yuno and ryu(giving demon pill to yami also saving asta basically and helping him get stronger) Meroleona and nacht have been the only ones to put in work with their own power and might(I assumed asta’s anti magic ran out and he pretty much didn’t want to use it but his own power anyways)
I never noticed before but Yami has some white streaks in his like guts from berserk. Nice! Hey Broku exactly how strong is Noelle currently now in the story? Can you make a video on this?
Glad to see that even tho power creep has happened in this series the other characters didn't become useless or redundant. I also believe the Asta giving Anti-Magic to the Black Bulls was overblown. We saw the dark triad give their minions a power boost through their devil powers so it was only a matter of time before Asta could do the same.
Man merioleona carries the vermilion family dignity at this point while fraudleon embarrassing the has fans, and oblivious it is okay that we forget about forgotleon which I forgot it has name 🧐
You have to essentially ignore so much to think the verse caps at SOL....lol you have to close your eyes after Yami makes that statement for the rest of the chapter too.
i’d still put noelle above yami and nacht, the pill is like the anti magic for nacht and that’s not really their power, it massively boosts the person who eats the pill stats for a short period of time , it’s not the same as like leviathan bc it’s a contract noelle made with leviathan, so i don’t think it’s fair to use yami with the pill and nacht with anti magic against noelle who doesn’t have either but can have it, bc if noelle got anti magic she most def would be as strong as yuno or even above imo bc like you said in one of your other videos it boosts their power by like 10x, so imo noelle>yami>nacht
noelle did have help but so did yami and nacht.. it was a 3 way combo spell with the amp of anti magic and the pill, noelle was always equal footing with acier while subconsciously holding back with each spell
In my honest opinion Yami is the weakest out of all the main cast rn. Asta is winning I don't even have to explain it Mereos intangibility gives Mereo an easy win. Yuno is absolutely destroying Yami the fact that this is even a debate is insane, Yuno is literally supporting every single character in the Kingdom as well as nerfing the villains this takes up a lot of his mana and strength which he could use to one shot Yami. Noelle did not need time to use her ultimate spell, she needed appreciation to unlock it, which many seem to forget, she is literally the only character who did not get help whatsoever, her siblings only cried the whole fight while Nozel stopped Acier for barely a sec. My conclusion: Yami Vs Asta: Asta wins neg dif Yami Vs Mereo: Mereo wins low dif Yami Vs Yuno: Yuno wins low dif Yami Vs Noelle: Noelle wins mid dif One should also not forget that the effects of that pill will soon run out and he will just become another weekling.
Mereo is not intangible, she is just like One Piece logia type. She just turns element body like Ace body turns into fire. she is still can be touched. Fuego lost his arm and he make his fire arm like Kuzan lost one leg and he just make an ice leg.
If Dimension Slash is being overpowered by raw power that means dimension slash isn’t a hax and actually ain’t durability beg What I think is actually happening is the dark magic is nullifying the properties of the dimension slash
@ There’s nothing to imply that this isn’t what’s occurring here, if dimension slash is dura neg why wouldn’t power null be the way Morgan is blocking it
@@SoulofFinality I misread what you said. I thought you were saying that it didn’t have any AP. It’s a mixture of morgensdark magic being strong and also nullifying ties
I honestly think this is a bit lazy and unaware on Tabatas part. I get it, he doesn’t have to be a pworrscaler or even care about powerscaling but at least be consistent and know your own story and power system. He’s been telling us all these characters have gotten faster and stronger throughout the story (sometimes even at the rates that are hard to believe and quite frankly silly), yet says light speed like that’s suppose to be impressive? This also makes me wonder where he sees the power of his characters? Does he believe that they are around light speed? Does he believe people like Patri are even close to the villains we have now? If he does, it’s a bit concerning nd means he doesn’t necessarily take what he says seriously. At least when Gege did it wit Mach 3 he admits it’s stupid nd he wanted to sound cool. He was very aware of how strong his characters were. Sometimes I fear Tabata doesn’t actually know what he’s doing nd the story can become messy because of it. I feel like he values “cool moments” over actual consistent story telling.
When talking about light speed stuff my brain got split, fighting between trying to apply fiction logic and irl logic 😅 I think in BC, because of magic, light speed or faster than light speed simply meant normal humans struggle or can't see (or comprehend) them. Just like in Dragon Ball usually shows in others perspective of how the fighters just blink and the viewers can only see the "clash". In BC, Tabata just write it in a sense that we can see what the characters currently see. If an attack is 20x light speed, then it is. To normal people? they probably didn't even know there's a fight, they probably just see things flying for no reason (apart if they knew there's mana fluctuation). Now my irl logic objects in that if something is faster than light, first it's impossible, second there should be explotion or mini black holes appearing. But because of how mana works, I feel like there's this level of "natural" physics (which connects to Heart's kingdom technique) and "magic" physics which depends on the wielder. Now how TF does Asta keep up with this without magic or anti magic? 😂
Also Dimension Slash is more potent than death thrust, dimension slash was merely bent by the singularity because it bends space Which is why he opt’d for death thrust instead as it isn’t a hax ability
I was hoping he would get a second magic/scroll if he had a scroll and book that would be cool also if he had a samurai/oni full body form would be cool too
Hey Broku! In the Jujutsu Kaisen Game Phantom Parade their is a Event story where they go to that Spirit Mountain called Spirit Summit which Curse spirits with no place have end up going to I wonder if Geto, Kenjaku or the Big three families use this Spirit Mountain to collect curse spirits for themselves? Also Do you think when everyone from 1-A and 1-B class finally became Heroes do you think any of them have their own Hero Agency or did they become Side kicks to another Hero Agency, Do you think any of them join the say Hero Agency like Ochako & Tsu-chan, Toru & Aoyama, Shoji & Koda, Mirio & Suneater and If they did have their own Hero Agency which cities would they be in?
Can you please make a video explaining Spirit Dive? Even just a short. I am desperate to understand it as best as possible because if i understood it properly, Noelle's Saint Valkyrie Armor (which is a result of fusing Valkyrie Armor with Spirit Dive) means she has a Mana Zone that she just... NEVER uses.
I think Yami didn't use death thrust because even if it's powerful, it's slow compared to his other spells. He seems to have to pose and charge his magic to a single point before thrusting but his other spells are instant. (I'm aware that dimension slash is the same so I think this theory is not perfect.)
Practically from this the strongest heroes are: 1. Asta 2. Meroleona 3. Nacht 4. Yami 5. Yuno (should be 2nd) 6. Noelle 7. Nozel 8. Anti Magic Black Bulls 9. Jack 10. Charlotte, could be Fraudgeolean but he’s a fraud. Personally I’d put Yuno at 2nd cause he was fighting while boosting low tier magic knights to match the power of the angels, and Yuno was playing defensively as he was helping everyone at the same time because an injury to him is GG to the clover kingdom, plus we haven’t seen him get his obligatory power up yet.
I appreciate your opinion but asta is way stronger than yuno and mereoleona asta in base defeat paladin he still have du,TDU, he is strongest character currently in black clover
We also have to remember these characters are talking within their own universe like if I fought somebody at lightspeed and then all of a sudden we all got faster I'm still going to call it Lightspeed LMAO? Like yes we move faster than light but there's no way to communicate in human words any speed faster than that so by default I would just say I'm moving at the speed of light even though I have proven many times in the past I am much faster
I really have issues with these incoherent power lvl. Like Yami clearly caught that clone off guard trying to harm Ichika. Just like magna and luck who were trying to save Kaiser. Due to neverland nerfing, Lucius army was already massively decreasing with something as nasty as magna’s soul chain and anti magic . Like I get it light and dark magic is a op combo and it took 3 exceptional mages to bring down paladin Morgan. But if it hadn’t been for Yuno’s neverland, the clones would have finished off everyone in a few minutes with time magic alone. Even at the beginning Yuno saved everyone in the capital from a larg range laser beam attack from the fodder angels. This why two clones were trying to kill Yuno so neverland finally drops. Marx who was watching the entire battlefield, was more afraid of time magic than anything else. The other clones were just messing around with the captains. You clearly don’t give Yuno enough credit.
8:09 No reason to bring up other series, whataboutism never looks good when you're refuting something. And this idea that feats trump the narrative really needs to die, like yeah guys the fights have people doing visually crazy speed feats, but if the story doesn't support the calc then that's that. Why go endlessly on and on about the feats, or what was said in Japanese. Also using CloverDragon's calc when he's been disagreeing with MFTL/FTL recently is bad. Also the calc was made a year ago. I think there's several statements about Light Magic being the fastest magic with only Time Magic being able to counter it, so no there's a theme that LM is the cap.
@@Rhenkei whataboutism is bad when that’s the only argument. So it’s not bad when I use it paired with my refutation. It’s pointing out hypocritical logic. Don’t care if Cloverdragon disagrees with his calc now because of the statement. Love that dude but just because he disagrees with something he made doesn’t make it wrong. As for your narrative argument. It’s also stated jn the narrative that characters much earlier were stated light speed. It’s also stated in the narrative that more magic power makes you faster. These LS characters got way more magic power. So the “narrative” argument already fails.
@@Br0ku All I said was its not a good look when you're refuting something, nothing about it being your only argument. And so what if people are hypocritical, this is about BC's speed scaling, not fictional speed scaling as a concept. I know you don't care, I'm saying that's bad. You're using someone's outdated work to support your argument when they now disagree with the way you're using it. It doesn't fall. It doesn't matter that the statements are early on, there's also statements later on that portray the characters haven't go beyond the speed. And yeah magic power makes you faster, that doesn't mean we can now use a calc to support the characters becoming hundreds of times faster and go "but they trained!".
@@Rhenkei Brother I promise you it's chill if he still uses my stuff, I'm not gonna be like "no you can't use it because I disagree with BC being at that level of speed now." I don't believe in the validity of the calc anywhere as much as before, but if someone else does, then it's free real estate
@@CloverDragon03I don't think its good to use someone else's work when they now disagree with its validity. It's not some serious issue I have, of course he can use it however.
To my Analysis, tye Light beams in Black Clover are not as fast as the speed of light since so many Cagaracters are able to react to that speed. The Speed of the light beams to my observations are as fast as Laser blasters similar in star wars.
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I feel like people forget that in black clover light magic with no crazy stat boosts or moves is BASE ftl. Thats not including effort training mana and skill with the magic they never account for anyone growing stronger. Like patri using light magic, the moment he got it he was already light speed, now after 10+ years of training and mana gathering you really think he still only caps out at ftl? "Cause how dare a manga character grow stronger how are we gonna prove our points now"- every bias'd scaler
Yami doesnt have regen as far as overal regen he was only healed due to the instant boost in magic, i doubt he will ever regen again without a massive powerup even if he were to go back into his true black bull form
The light speed downplay was so annoying. People also did the same thing to Luffy in One Piece when he fought another character with light powers. It's like people conveniently forgot about all the other prior light speed feats in the series 🙄. People let their recency bias guide their reasoning.
i honestly think all 4 horned paladins should be about equal i dont see a logical reason for their power levels to vary that much tbh with that said those 4 paladins being stronger than a clone would mean that yuno might not even be top 9 in the series anymore
1. Jack is not ftl, if he was ftl he should've dodge Morgen light attack spell. but he can't dodge and killed by Morgen. It proves that, that's why he is dead. 2. Mereoleona is still stronger than Yami, Yami needs his sister and Nacht help to defeat Morgen, It's 3v1. but Mereo is 1v1 Moris.
@@Br0ku Morgen light magic still go through Yami Black moon, it proves that black moon can't null someone stronger or higher level. He only null same level or below Yami level. I say it easy for you understand, a level 10 player use null spell vs a level 20 player. Null spell can't work on level higher than you. A higher level player attack spell still can work and go through black moon.
@@Br0kuMereo is just like One Piece logia type. She just turns element body like Ace body turns into fire. she is still can be touched. Fuego lost his arm and he make his fire arm like Kuzan lost one leg and he just make an ice leg.
i dont think yami is stronger than yuno, remember yuno is carrying and supporting an entire country including yami using an extreme magic so there's no way he is at full power. and also asta and yuno didnt speed blitz the lucius clone, it was finral teleporting both of them behind lucius..
@@Weeb-Knightthat’s kinda flipped. Yuno used mana zone across the realm. So he’s actually getting amped by it. Where is said/shown Finral teleporting them?
@@Br0ku it's a mana zone that's supporting and boosting an entire country's people, he is not getting all that magic, it's going to all the people that need it and we've seen his body literally breaking apart holding that massive and extreme spell. As for where it was shown finral teleporting asta and Yuno, check chapter 370, page 11, you'll see finral holding one hand with anti-magic pointed at Asta and the other with his normal magic pointed at Yuno and when the Black bulls finish their monologues he teleports them behind lucius.
U know where I scale yami at so I won’t mention it but where do u put him in the 10 strongest characters in BC verse or do u think he isn’t in the top 10🤔
In all fairness about light speed debate I don’t think medieval era people will be knowledgeable about true light speed maybe they are bluffing shit 😂😂 Broku is really one to explain it this system If I give my explanation Every character is stronger than patri aka ch 33 is it light speed only go further the more magic power they have the more Although if two it same or close magic power the advantage of speed will go to the one who has magic about speed like light spatial etc example Yuno star magic allows him to dodge Lucifero even when Lucifero was stronger
Can i ask sumn? How is someone a demon AND a god? Aint those 2 opposite things? An oxymoron if u will. Itd be like me saying Im an uneaten, completely eaten sandwich😂
The ftl thing is so.stupid... Black clover was ftl from second or third arc...yami just it's light speed but the blow is too strong..you can dodge a punch but it lands on you it'll take some time to control yourself..
Sadly gaja would get bodied 😂 he’s an under utilized character honestly. He went from fighting Julius and almost one shotting megicula too being an after thought. him and yosuga I have respects for the most out of everyone that’s an outsider Lmao whatever happened to mars and ladros(the diamond kingdom has been the least fleshed out 😅)
I have to say all of the video is true except the universal scaling I'd have to say thats a extreme high ball also just to clear the jjk thing gege has said he didnt mean to make such a fast feat so early
Now if only a certain captain could go Spirit Dive any day now...
Actually, there's a reason why Yuno and, at the time, Noelle can use Spirit Dive and Fuegoleon can't. See, Yuno has Bell, or Sylph, and Noelle had Undine, two of the Four Great Attributes. Fuegoleon has Salamander, but there's a catch: Salamander is known for being a fierce and independent spirit that has a unique relationship with its users. Unlike Sylph and Undine, Salamander does not form the same kind of emotional bond that is necessary for Spirit Dive. Fuegoleon is a very powerful Magic Captain, yes, but his connection with Salamander may not be as emotionally resonant as Yuno's with Sylph or Noelle's with Undine. This difference in compatibility affects his ability to utilize Spirit Dive. Salamander has its own will and may require a different kind of acknowledgment or relationship that Fuegoleon has yet to establish, making it challenging for him to perform Spirit Dive.
@@Epsonea_482 😂😂😂
Fuegoleon is a fraud.
fraudgoleon
@@javierhernandezsoliman9198 fraudgoleon LMAO
I like to think a weight was lifted off of Yuno's shoulders once Asta arrived, like imagine carrying a kingdom at 18 years old and your rival, the only one who has an edge up on you is gone and your left alone as the strongest
Like pretty strong I think
when patry was fighting julius, julius stopped one of patry’s light swords, and then sped it up and sent it back at patry; another reason why light speed isn’t the cap for the black clover verse
@@Mhalf0 the databook even says that when Julius did that, he doubled the speed of the attack
@ so that statement alone debunks the light speed cap
Yami definitely regained his title as the strongest grand magic knight ( except yuno of course ) wich has been taken by mereoleona since April
Let bro get past mereoleona first 😂
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Mereoleona is still stronger than Yami
Yami need his sister and Nacht help to defeat Morgen, It's 3v1.
Mereo is 1v1 Moris
@@apocrypha5062morgen>>>>>>morris
Currently Yami has even edge over Yuno
Blitzing a Lucius clone is a crazy flex
Lucius clone is not that strong, blitz clone is not a crazy feat.
@@apocrypha5062lucius clone negative diffs 80% of the verse
@@mahidsahariarmazumder2658 Yuno legit struggled to fight against one
The Lucius clone confirms Morgen was stronger. Safe to say the paladins outscale the clones
@@ShurashinaYeah, Morgen was using TWO intangible elements while a clone only possessed a part of Lucius' actual power
Mereoliona may be intangible but she’s still mana. Considering Dorothy’s Glamour World is intangible and only the staff that exists in it are tangible. Black Moon and Dimension Slash very much would do the trick for Yami. Thanks for the new video
True, but Morris was able to overpower Glamour World with Lucifero's magic, which is said to overpower intangible concepts, yet when Morris is even stronger than that, he can't touch Leona at all. I don't think Black Moon or Dimension Slash would be able to just immediately stop her, but it's still up to debate
I honestly don't think he understands how stuff like that works...
@Raijinshou1954 black moon absorbs the spell and it's effects...
@@Goldyboi2001 True, but that doesn't mean it immediately overpowers everything. If that was the case, he would've completely overwhelmed Dante's gravity instead of just creating a space for himself. It's similar to how Langris was able to create a small domain using Mana Zone within Zenon's Absolute Space. It's limited because of the force it's fighting against.
Mereo is not intangible, just like One Piece logia type. She just turns element body like Ace body turns into fire. Still can be touched.
Fuego lost his arm and he make his fire arm like Kuzan lost one leg and he just make an ice leg.
Nice vid bro as always!
Merioleona is literally bestest girl personified. I love this BC character the most.
Great video. Keep it up
In fact, it is not a wing, but its cape, which is shaped like a wing and a cape at the same time, this is shown several times.
Personally I’d argue Yuno is FAR stronger than Yami. Besides the fact that we know NeverNeverland gives people a significant boost since before it a mere angel was capable of one shotting a vice captain, yet with NeverNeverland even low tier characters can battle it out with the angels, Yuno’s fight with Lucius REQUIRED he couldn’t get hit once, if he did he’d die and NeverNeverland gets undone and everyone loses, and he knows it. Which means he has to be extra careful since if his soul gets taken and Lucius can use time magic its game over. With that in mind, it makes sense he wasn’t able to go all out in comparison to Yami, since he has to watch out for ANY possible tricks the ruler of time may have up his sleeve, meaning he has to be far more cautious. Without NeverNeverland Yami is likely blitzed and one shot by current Yuno at max power
Exactly well said
That's a lame argument i would say ...I know he have to take an extra effort to activate Never Never land but it doesn't mean he have to hold back for anything....he and bell stored up mana and created that spell to specifically to fight Lucius at his full might along with his subordinates.....And its not like he has any reason to hold back until then Yuno didn't know that wasn't real Lucius just a clone..So it was do and die situation for him, if he take down him its all over... And as we see he had so much struggle to take down that clone that he almost at his limit....And he almost gonna verge to fall if Asta didn't arrived...
Yami's demon god form is far stronger than Yuno whether it on raw strength or the attack power and even healing and there is no doubts..and the thing is Yami is always stronger than Yuno whether its on the current arc or the Spaid kingdom arc....As we see it against Lucifero where Lucifero just knock out Yuno (saint spirit form)after 2 punch and even broke his saint spirit of Zephyr...all the fighting is done by Asta and Yami he prity much did the supporting stuf.....On the other hand Yami just block Luciferos punch with ease and Lucifero just getting serious after Yami entered in battle.... except Asta he is the only one able to hurt Lucifero and accepted that Yami has the potential to kill him....
And for the current arc Yami(demon god) just one shot Lucius clone like its nothing.....and he is going on par with paladian Morgan who is said to far more stronger than Lucius clone .... Morgan have to use his strongest light× dark magic spell but Yami still able to keep up at equal terms and with Ichika and Nacht; they even surpassed Morgan and take him down....But in case of Yuno it took him almost everything to take down Lucius one clone....and he was no match for the 2 clone of Lucius....
@@Hokage_hideout the point is besides the effort to keep and maintain the spell to such a large degree of land mass, you have to keep in mind the context of the situation. Lucius has the ability to take your soul out and fuse it just by touching you, which is an instant death. If Yuno dies and Never Neverland is undone, EVERYONE loses, that’s not a debate or a question, if the angels alone were strong enough to make fodder out of the vice captains, imagine how much stronger the paladins would be alongside the Lucius clones and Lucius himself…. It wouldn’t even be a fight without NeverNeverland. That’s how much the spell is amplifying everyone, INCLUDING YAMI, which means without it, Yuno is far stronger. This also makes sense logically. Vangence and Yami have always been portrayed to be relative with Yami or William being slightly stronger on an arc to arc basis. William has a great performance against Xenon with context, unlike Yami who got an all out fight with Dante, William had to focus on keeping his squad members alive, and still managed to hold off Xenon until Yuno wrapped up his fight with that split focus, implying he might have been able to win completely on his own had he gone all out in a fight…. This is imprtant because BASE Yuno was so strong William instantly made him captain of the Golden Dawn by seeing him, this isn’t even zephyr or Saint stage, or Neverneverland yet, it’s just BASE Yuno, that alone should tell you everything you need to know about the stat difference here…
So again Yuno is buffing Yami in this current scenario, in an actual fight he’d be getting nerfed. Which means even if you argued their stats were relative (which they aren’t when Neverneverland isn’t helping Yami) Yami is getting STOMPED….
@@Hokage_hideout let’s actually look at the differences between Yami’s fight with the Lucius clone, and Yuno’s to prove how illogical your argument is.
1) Did Yuno have any help with fighting Lucius? NO
2) Does Yami have to worry as much about getting touched by Lucius? NO
3) Has Yami ALWAYS been stronger the Yuno? NO
I’m gonna go over those two points now. Yami was in a 3v2 with the help of Ichika and Nacht, both of whom amplify his power significantly on top of the boost from Neverneverland due to combo spells that perfectly feed into each other. Even if at first it was ONLY Ichika helping him… and again as I brought up earlier, while Yami could cut loose because if he died there are more people to take his place in this fight, if Yuno dies or becomes a Paladin everyone LOSES. It’s not a question up for debate, if Neverneverland is undone or worse switched over so the paladins get it, every single person fighting for the Clover Kingdom is getting stomped because of how nerfed they will be. It’s why Yuno developed his shield, so Lucius couldn’t touch him and then take his soul and end up using his power for his own benefit.
As for Three, Yuno actually DID surpass Yami in the spade arc by unlocking Star magic. While Yami had William’s sword with all his mana amping him, he could ONLY scratch Lucius, and while Yuno could not do the same, in an actual fight Yuno is stomping Yami at this point. Not only is he far faster in Saint Stage, but on top of that there AP is around the same with Yami’s being slightly higher, and Yuno can Teleport and make stars so strong they negate Lucifero’s gravity… and make a minefield’s worth of stars to teleport too. In an actual fight Yuno just teleportes behind or in front of or in the side of Yami and cuts him over and over again until he dies even in the spade arc, and now that he mastered Star and Wind magic, since Yuno could block a combo spell from all the angels with no difficulty in BASE with one simple shield spell of Star Magic, it isn’t hard to believe he could deflect a non NeverNeverland amped Yami’s attacks on his own….
For the lightspeed thing for BC, it's literally just a feats > statements situation.
That was Finral teleporting Asta and Yuno past the Lucius clones. We see them fail to pass the initial clones on their first attempt. And we see Finral with one arm using antimagic pointing towards Asta, and one arm using magic towards Yuno.
This is actually something that not a single person has ever mentioned! This is certainly a possible way to see it, and I’m leaning towards that now. If that’s the case… yami whoops!
People tend to forget these Lucius clone aren’t able to use time magic. They only have body magic and lucifero’s durability right now.
That’s facts plus everyone is also buffed up by yuno’s spell too, if these clowns were able to use gravity singularity spells it would be hell for these guys 😂
there’s only standing a chance due to the asta, yuno and ryu(giving demon pill to yami also saving asta basically and helping him get stronger)
Meroleona and nacht have been the only ones to put in work with their own power and might(I assumed asta’s anti magic ran out and he pretty much didn’t want to use it but his own power anyways)
You LOVE to see it
Greatness has arrived
I never noticed before but Yami has some white streaks in his like guts from berserk. Nice!
Hey Broku exactly how strong is Noelle currently now in the story? Can you make a video on this?
Glad to see that even tho power creep has happened in this series the other characters didn't become useless or redundant. I also believe the Asta giving Anti-Magic to the Black Bulls was overblown. We saw the dark triad give their minions a power boost through their devil powers so it was only a matter of time before Asta could do the same.
Man merioleona carries the vermilion family dignity at this point while fraudleon embarrassing the has fans,
and oblivious it is okay that we forget about forgotleon which I forgot it has name 🧐
You have to essentially ignore so much to think the verse caps at SOL....lol you have to close your eyes after Yami makes that statement for the rest of the chapter too.
@@TonioC105 pretty much!
i’d still put noelle above yami and nacht, the pill is like the anti magic for nacht and that’s not really their power, it massively boosts the person who eats the pill stats for a short period of time , it’s not the same as like leviathan bc it’s a contract noelle made with leviathan, so i don’t think it’s fair to use yami with the pill and nacht with anti magic against noelle who doesn’t have either but can have it, bc if noelle got anti magic she most def would be as strong as yuno or even above imo bc like you said in one of your other videos it boosts their power by like 10x, so imo noelle>yami>nacht
noelle did have help but so did yami and nacht.. it was a 3 way combo spell with the amp of anti magic and the pill, noelle was always equal footing with acier while subconsciously holding back with each spell
My interpretation is that Yami was referring to light speed as a blanket term for that tier of speed.
In my honest opinion Yami is the weakest out of all the main cast rn.
Asta is winning I don't even have to explain it
Mereos intangibility gives Mereo an easy win.
Yuno is absolutely destroying Yami the fact that this is even a debate is insane, Yuno is literally supporting every single character in the Kingdom as well as nerfing the villains this takes up a lot of his mana and strength which he could use to one shot Yami.
Noelle did not need time to use her ultimate spell, she needed appreciation to unlock it, which many seem to forget, she is literally the only character who did not get help whatsoever, her siblings only cried the whole fight while Nozel stopped Acier for barely a sec.
My conclusion:
Yami Vs Asta: Asta wins neg dif
Yami Vs Mereo: Mereo wins low dif
Yami Vs Yuno: Yuno wins low dif
Yami Vs Noelle: Noelle wins mid dif
One should also not forget that the effects of that pill will soon run out and he will just become another weekling.
Yami rn>>> most of the BBs
You only mentioned a fraction of the main cast
Mereo is not intangible, she is just like One Piece logia type. She just turns element body like Ace body turns into fire. she is still can be touched. Fuego lost his arm and he make his fire arm like Kuzan lost one leg and he just make an ice leg.
yami one shotted a lucius clone lol he slams noelle and ext diffs yuno
Neverland is a mana zone lol it barely takes any of his mana
If Dimension Slash is being overpowered by raw power that means dimension slash isn’t a hax and actually ain’t durability beg
What I think is actually happening is the dark magic is nullifying the properties of the dimension slash
Incorrect
@ There’s nothing to imply that this isn’t what’s occurring here, if dimension slash is dura neg why wouldn’t power null be the way Morgan is blocking it
@@SoulofFinality I misread what you said. I thought you were saying that it didn’t have any AP. It’s a mixture of morgensdark magic being strong and also nullifying ties
I honestly think this is a bit lazy and unaware on Tabatas part. I get it, he doesn’t have to be a pworrscaler or even care about powerscaling but at least be consistent and know your own story and power system.
He’s been telling us all these characters have gotten faster and stronger throughout the story (sometimes even at the rates that are hard to believe and quite frankly silly), yet says light speed like that’s suppose to be impressive?
This also makes me wonder where he sees the power of his characters? Does he believe that they are around light speed? Does he believe people like Patri are even close to the villains we have now? If he does, it’s a bit concerning nd means he doesn’t necessarily take what he says seriously. At least when Gege did it wit Mach 3 he admits it’s stupid nd he wanted to sound cool. He was very aware of how strong his characters were.
Sometimes I fear Tabata doesn’t actually know what he’s doing nd the story can become messy because of it. I feel like he values “cool moments” over actual consistent story telling.
Was not expecting Mashle spoilers in this video 💀
He one shot lucius clone
Yo goated
Bro this ain’t lasting yuno gonna pull something out of his ass and become stronger 🙏
I like to think he's his most mighty right after getting off the can.
15:17 asta did not blitz Lucius.
He was teleported by finral with spatial magic.
Black clover is the best new gen
W
Ong ❤
Is it even a new gen anymore?
After how Chainsawman, JJK,DS, and MHA went then yeah its looking that way. Demon Slayer is the only one that you can argue.
Facts
When talking about light speed stuff my brain got split, fighting between trying to apply fiction logic and irl logic 😅
I think in BC, because of magic, light speed or faster than light speed simply meant normal humans struggle or can't see (or comprehend) them. Just like in Dragon Ball usually shows in others perspective of how the fighters just blink and the viewers can only see the "clash".
In BC, Tabata just write it in a sense that we can see what the characters currently see. If an attack is 20x light speed, then it is. To normal people? they probably didn't even know there's a fight, they probably just see things flying for no reason (apart if they knew there's mana fluctuation).
Now my irl logic objects in that if something is faster than light, first it's impossible, second there should be explotion or mini black holes appearing. But because of how mana works, I feel like there's this level of "natural" physics (which connects to Heart's kingdom technique) and "magic" physics which depends on the wielder.
Now how TF does Asta keep up with this without magic or anti magic? 😂
Also Dimension Slash is more potent than death thrust, dimension slash was merely bent by the singularity because it bends space
Which is why he opt’d for death thrust instead as it isn’t a hax ability
@@SoulofFinality incorrect
He wouldn’t acknowledge the speed if it wasn’t an issue
Your burden. On-screen feats put him superior in speed to the attacks.z
@ Your On Screen Feats are based off calculation which clearly isn’t the authors vision
@@SoulofFinalitydeath of the author fallacy
@ to be real I don’t know what death of the author fallacy means
I'm mostly wondering if he can use that form whenever he wants, or if he'd need the pill every time.
Pretty sure it's the pill. But he still has the devil heart and most likely will absorb the Devil form as his own I hope
I was hoping he would get a second magic/scroll if he had a scroll and book that would be cool also if he had a samurai/oni full body form would be cool too
Hey Broku! In the Jujutsu Kaisen Game Phantom Parade their is a Event story where they go to that Spirit Mountain called Spirit Summit which Curse spirits with no place have end up going to I wonder if Geto, Kenjaku or the Big three families use this Spirit Mountain to collect curse spirits for themselves?
Also Do you think when everyone from 1-A and 1-B class finally became Heroes do you think any of them have their own Hero Agency or did they become Side kicks to another Hero Agency, Do you think any of them join the say Hero Agency like Ochako & Tsu-chan, Toru & Aoyama, Shoji & Koda, Mirio & Suneater and If they did have their own Hero Agency which cities would they be in?
I think Nacht was still buffed by Asta’s Anti magic or did he lose it during the first few moments when he was self conflicted
Can you please make a video explaining Spirit Dive? Even just a short. I am desperate to understand it as best as possible because if i understood it properly, Noelle's Saint Valkyrie Armor (which is a result of fusing Valkyrie Armor with Spirit Dive) means she has a Mana Zone that she just... NEVER uses.
I think Yami didn't use death thrust because even if it's powerful, it's slow compared to his other spells. He seems to have to pose and charge his magic to a single point before thrusting but his other spells are instant. (I'm aware that dimension slash is the same so I think this theory is not perfect.)
Any ways have you heard about the author of mha people been mass blocking because they didn't want deku to fall in with ochako crazy work
lol twiter fans
@ lol
Practically from this the strongest heroes are:
1. Asta
2. Meroleona
3. Nacht
4. Yami
5. Yuno (should be 2nd)
6. Noelle
7. Nozel
8. Anti Magic Black Bulls
9. Jack
10. Charlotte, could be Fraudgeolean but he’s a fraud.
Personally I’d put Yuno at 2nd cause he was fighting while boosting low tier magic knights to match the power of the angels, and Yuno was playing defensively as he was helping everyone at the same time because an injury to him is GG to the clover kingdom, plus we haven’t seen him get his obligatory power up yet.
So yami is about high universal then? Oh and can you please do Nacht next???
@@kyronmceachron1862 thanks! Possibly
Yami is not uni 😂 he is just continental to planetary level at best
@ you never provide actual arguments in your years commenting here
@@Br0ku Yami never destroyed an universe, never destroyed galaxy. How is he uni? 🤣
I got you bro
1. Mere
2. Yuno
3. Asta
4.yami
I appreciate your opinion but asta is way stronger than yuno and mereoleona asta in base defeat paladin he still have du,TDU, he is strongest character currently in black clover
@@vladanmarinkovic162Nope, yuno is stronger then shrimpsta😊
We also have to remember these characters are talking within their own universe like if I fought somebody at lightspeed and then all of a sudden we all got faster I'm still going to call it Lightspeed LMAO? Like yes we move faster than light but there's no way to communicate in human words any speed faster than that so by default I would just say I'm moving at the speed of light even though I have proven many times in the past I am much faster
I really have issues with these incoherent power lvl. Like Yami clearly caught that clone off guard trying to harm Ichika. Just like magna and luck who were trying to save Kaiser. Due to neverland nerfing, Lucius army was already massively decreasing with something as nasty as magna’s soul chain and anti magic . Like I get it light and dark magic is a op combo and it took 3 exceptional mages to bring down paladin Morgan.
But if it hadn’t been for Yuno’s neverland, the clones would have finished off everyone in a few minutes with time magic alone. Even at the beginning Yuno saved everyone in the capital from a larg range laser beam attack from the fodder angels.
This why two clones were trying to kill Yuno so neverland finally drops. Marx who was watching the entire battlefield, was more afraid of time magic than anything else. The other clones were just messing around with the captains.
You clearly don’t give Yuno enough credit.
Yes I think what the Lucius clone actually meant was that Morgen>Lucius Clone but without time magic.
Every shonen for no reason:
So Yeah we move at light speed
I don't know, man, I don't think characters from Haikyuu!! Have lightspeed feats.
@ Yeah no shit, you know what I meant
@@justasinglesummon3912 yeah no shit I know what you meant, I was making a joke.
@ Yeah no shit, I know the joke. Okay let’s stop this nonsense
8:09
No reason to bring up other series, whataboutism never looks good when you're refuting something. And this idea that feats trump the narrative really needs to die, like yeah guys the fights have people doing visually crazy speed feats, but if the story doesn't support the calc then that's that. Why go endlessly on and on about the feats, or what was said in Japanese. Also using CloverDragon's calc when he's been disagreeing with MFTL/FTL recently is bad. Also the calc was made a year ago. I think there's several statements about Light Magic being the fastest magic with only Time Magic being able to counter it, so no there's a theme that LM is the cap.
@@Rhenkei whataboutism is bad when that’s the only argument. So it’s not bad when I use it paired with my refutation. It’s pointing out hypocritical logic.
Don’t care if Cloverdragon disagrees with his calc now because of the statement. Love that dude but just because he disagrees with something he made doesn’t make it wrong.
As for your narrative argument. It’s also stated jn the narrative that characters much earlier were stated light speed. It’s also stated in the narrative that more magic power makes you faster. These LS characters got way more magic power. So the “narrative” argument already fails.
@@Br0ku All I said was its not a good look when you're refuting something, nothing about it being your only argument. And so what if people are hypocritical, this is about BC's speed scaling, not fictional speed scaling as a concept.
I know you don't care, I'm saying that's bad. You're using someone's outdated work to support your argument when they now disagree with the way you're using it.
It doesn't fall. It doesn't matter that the statements are early on, there's also statements later on that portray the characters haven't go beyond the speed. And yeah magic power makes you faster, that doesn't mean we can now use a calc to support the characters becoming hundreds of times faster and go "but they trained!".
@@Rhenkei Brother I promise you it's chill if he still uses my stuff, I'm not gonna be like "no you can't use it because I disagree with BC being at that level of speed now." I don't believe in the validity of the calc anywhere as much as before, but if someone else does, then it's free real estate
@@CloverDragon03I don't think its good to use someone else's work when they now disagree with its validity. It's not some serious issue I have, of course he can use it however.
Broku, the saddest part yeah no matter how much proof you show, ppl will use that against bc fans now.
To my Analysis, tye Light beams in Black Clover are not as fast as the speed of light since so many Cagaracters are able to react to that speed.
The Speed of the light beams to my observations are as fast as Laser blasters similar in star wars.
Fairy King Harlequin vs Spade Prince Yuno
First Fairy King Gloxinia vs Elf Clan Leader Licht
Greatest Sorcerer Merlin vs Witch Vanessa
Archangel Mael vs Demonhost Dante
Supreme Deity vs Demon Megicula
Demon King vs Demon Lucifero
Chaos King Arthur vs Wizard King Conrad
Black moon already absorbs her magic in the anime so he cooks her
I feel like people forget that in black clover light magic with no crazy stat boosts or moves is BASE ftl. Thats not including effort training mana and skill with the magic they never account for anyone growing stronger. Like patri using light magic, the moment he got it he was already light speed, now after 10+ years of training and mana gathering you really think he still only caps out at ftl? "Cause how dare a manga character grow stronger how are we gonna prove our points now"- every bias'd scaler
It’s alway the big 3 fans to like we couldn’t do the same thing to them
Yami doesnt have regen as far as overal regen he was only healed due to the instant boost in magic, i doubt he will ever regen again without a massive powerup even if he were to go back into his true black bull form
How yami skip from planetary skipping over solar level straight to universal
Plot
The light speed downplay was so annoying. People also did the same thing to Luffy in One Piece when he fought another character with light powers. It's like people conveniently forgot about all the other prior light speed feats in the series 🙄. People let their recency bias guide their reasoning.
9:03 That's DC capacity Broku, not AP.
You get what I’m saying
@@Br0kuYeah mb lol 😂
black moon gives him a big advantage against mereoleona
Asta vs saitama who wins?
I say its possibly a tigh since there both galaxy( asta is debatably very low uni)
If you think asta is uni. He negs
i honestly think all 4 horned paladins should be about equal i dont see a logical reason for their power levels to vary that much tbh
with that said those 4 paladins being stronger than a clone would mean that yuno might not even be top 9 in the series anymore
Yami is Yamiversal
1. Jack is not ftl, if he was ftl he should've dodge Morgen light attack spell. but he can't dodge and killed by Morgen. It proves that, that's why he is dead.
2. Mereoleona is still stronger than Yami, Yami needs his sister and Nacht help to defeat Morgen, It's 3v1. but Mereo is 1v1 Moris.
@@apocrypha5062 wrong on both accounts
@@Br0ku Morgen light magic still go through Yami Black moon, it proves that black moon can't null someone stronger or higher level. He only null same level or below Yami level. I say it easy for you understand, a level 10 player use null spell vs a level 20 player. Null spell can't work on level higher than you. A higher level player attack spell still can work and go through black moon.
@@Br0kuMereo is just like One Piece logia type. She just turns element body like Ace body turns into fire. she is still can be touched. Fuego lost his arm and he make his fire arm like Kuzan lost one leg and he just make an ice leg.
@@Br0ku Yami is still struggling light speed attack.
@@apocrypha5062 black moon nullified spells from stronger people than him already. Dante and Lucifero were stronger than him.
Does he beat Kenpachi tho?
No, he can't
Yami still doesnt have zetten, so he can get even stronger 🤩
hey kitten
i dont think yami is stronger than yuno, remember yuno is carrying and supporting an entire country including yami using an extreme magic so there's no way he is at full power.
and also asta and yuno didnt speed blitz the lucius clone, it was finral teleporting both of them behind lucius..
@@Weeb-Knightthat’s kinda flipped. Yuno used mana zone across the realm. So he’s actually getting amped by it.
Where is said/shown Finral teleporting them?
@@Br0ku it's a mana zone that's supporting and boosting an entire country's people, he is not getting all that magic, it's going to all the people that need it and we've seen his body literally breaking apart holding that massive and extreme spell.
As for where it was shown finral teleporting asta and Yuno, check chapter 370, page 11, you'll see finral holding one hand with anti-magic pointed at Asta and the other with his normal magic pointed at Yuno and when the Black bulls finish their monologues he teleports them behind lucius.
U know where I scale yami at so I won’t mention it but where do u put him in the 10 strongest characters in BC verse or do u think he isn’t in the top 10🤔
He's easily top 10 everyone in the arc that's pulling crazy feats is top 10
@ but there’s a lot of people that are pulling crazy feats
In all fairness about light speed debate I don’t think medieval era people will be knowledgeable about true light speed maybe they are bluffing shit 😂😂
Broku is really one to explain it this system
If I give my explanation Every character is stronger than patri aka ch 33 is it light speed only go further the more magic power they have the more
Although if two it same or close magic power the advantage of speed will go to the one who has magic about speed like light spatial etc example Yuno star magic allows him to dodge Lucifero even when Lucifero was stronger
People love rationalizing shitty shonen writing.
So Noelle Solos? Got it 🙂↕️
Can i ask sumn?
How is someone a demon AND a god?
Aint those 2 opposite things?
An oxymoron if u will.
Itd be like me saying Im an uneaten, completely eaten sandwich😂
@@chriss.249 not really. But it’s also the language barrier that makes it sound weird.
Pizza time
Also that light speed statement bothered me quite a bit...like... you dealt with this with the first fight you've had in the series already lol.
The ftl thing is so.stupid... Black clover was ftl from second or third arc...yami just it's light speed but the blow is too strong..you can dodge a punch but it lands on you it'll take some time to control yourself..
Black clover never was ftl
Narrator and character statements over calculations that can makes to wank characters
Narrator and character statements side with my argument 😂
Gaja beats Lucifero
Sadly gaja would get bodied 😂 he’s an under utilized character honestly. He went from fighting Julius and almost one shotting megicula too being an after thought.
him and yosuga I have respects for the most out of everyone that’s an outsider
Lmao whatever happened to mars and ladros(the diamond kingdom has been the least fleshed out 😅)
I have to say all of the video is true except the universal scaling I'd have to say thats a extreme high ball also just to clear the jjk thing gege has said he didnt mean to make such a fast feat so early