Selling Salami in the BumbleKoffee Shop AU | BumbleKast for Feb. 13th, 2023 - Ian Flynn Q&A Podcast

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  • @J.R.Unbound
    @J.R.Unbound Рік тому +41

    February 13th, 2023 Question Timestamps:
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    2:14 - *[IDW SPOILERS (for future issues)]* In that hypothetical Diamond Cutters AU I brought up last time (where the team survives and Mimic isn't a complete piece of garbage), if Tangle (Heaven forbid) and Lanolin were to join the team, what would their roles be (Ex. Smithy is the Crafter and Heavy, Claire'ss the Psy-Op, Mimic's the Infiltrator, etc.)?
    3:29 - Is the Fourth Dimension in Sonic Shuffle related to SpatioTemporal dimensions? I don’t think so because it has no scientific/mathematical background but I think it can encompass any & all sizes/ranges/concepts/scopes considering dreams have no limits in Sonic. Is this agreeable?
    3:51 - In the Archie encyclopedia it’s stated that Mathias can astral project implying that there are astral planes in Archie Sonic’s world (or the Sonic Multiverse(s)). So with there being infinite possibilities and infinite variations would there be an astral plane in all zones?
    4:25 - There’s this philosophy that possible worlds exist/are real. We’ve seen possible paths in Sonic before like in CD and ShadowTH (implied to be actual) so is it compatible with that philosophy?
    5:26 - *[Frontiers Spoilers]* I saw a translation of the Japanese version of the Sonic Frontiers story and noticed that the goals of Sonic's friends are quite different than what is mentioned in the English version, for example, in the English version Knuckles wants to get out of his island and see the world but in the Japanese version, he wants to find out more about his ancestors, my question is which of the two versions of the story should we consider the canon version?
    6:48 - If classic sonic is just the past and not an alternate timeline why did the events of generations not affect his future adventures in any way? Is it a case where his adventures as we see them in game are only that way because Time Eater messed with time and if Time Eater was never a factor would the events of games like sa1, sa2 and heroes have happened differently then how we see them in game.
    9:54 - Do all numbers that we currently have knowledge of (and will have knowledge of) in our world exist in Sonic’s world? Eitaro Toyoda said that all concepts of sets and sequences (which includes the concepts of numbers) exist when asked.
    10:49 - If SEGA and IDW told you they wanted you to write a 12 issue Eggman comic series with Eggman as the main protagonist, while still having him as a villain, how would you go about it?
    12:16 - [If] eggman conquered the world and captured every single character, Sonic, Shadow, everyone [except] cream and cheese, [who] managed to be the only ones to not get captured. [...] they’d try to [...] save their friends, [encountering Omega along the way, recruiting him to help] fight eggman. [...] If you were to take over that story, what characters would you have them save in what order? What else would you do with that plot?
    *The original timestamp here was wrong, so thank Red Rebel for letting me know!*
    16:06 - After agreeing that Bumblekast doesn't take up enough of your free time, you've both decided to open up the Bumblekast coffee shop, Bumblebucks. What sort of place would it be and what would you serve?
    20:08 - Well Kyle, looks like the SEGA reps are here. Turns out they're avid listeners of the show and have decided you're the voice of the Sonic fandom. Because of this, they're seeking your wisdom to choose one single ship to become canon and represent romance across the brand. They believe so strongly in your opinion that they're willing to spend a lot of money editing every piece of Sonic media that has ever existed to only include the ship of your choosing. So, the question is, which ship do you choose that will surely bring everlasting peace (or chaos) to the Sonic fandom?
    22:20 - Can and/or Does the term “Dimension” in Sonic refer to concepts of reality, concepts of size, concepts of worlds, universes, zones and realms/planes? Can it also contain them? For example Blaze’s world is contained in her dimension. Yes or No?
    23:30 - The Null Space is said to be closed off from all dimensions according to Eggman in the JP version of Sonic Forces. So is it closed off from or not bounded by all notions/concepts/types of dimensions like he (or the game) implies?
    24:17 - In character, How would Starline order Drive Through at Meh Burger with Surge and Kit in the car?
    26:22 - I was wondering why Fiona stuck by Scourge, she helped him fight the suppression squad when they went traitor and went to prison for him, yet she told tails you can't count on anybody, does she actually love him? If so, why?
    27:51 - Just wondering is there a TV show you guys always watch when flicking the channels? In the last year I have fallen in love with Bob's Burgers. Just all the characters are so well done. I can picture Sonic and Tails having a burger and fries in Bob's restaurant with Teddy telling them some funny story.
    29:30 - *[Frontiers Spoilers]* Now, you may not be able to speak on this, and I won't ask for a specific time frame in case it gets announced at some point, but within the IDW writing team, is there a planned point at which Frontiers slots in? I know you've spoken on the potential of Sage appearing at some point, so naturally I wanna know if it's planned to be any time soon, as soon as a monthly comic series can be anyway.
    31:02 - Back in Issue 18, Vanilla told Cream "We're not heroes like Sonic and Amy" and then the 2022 Annual they go to a camp to 'become a hero', despite being part of the main heroes in the 2000's. What's going on? Did SEGA decide to make Cream a pure civilian character or something?
    31:46 - In the Dark Mobius timeline ruled by Knuckles as Enerjak, Rotor Walrus went by the name Dagger Walrus. Was Rotor always a knife-throwing champion, or was that something he picked up over the years under Enerjak's reign?
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    33:30 - Thanks to those who support the show
    37:00 - Outtake 1
    38:19 - Outtake 2

    • @Red-Rebel
      @Red-Rebel Рік тому +3

      The Sammy question is listed as starting at 10:15 instead of 12:12.

    • @J.R.Unbound
      @J.R.Unbound Рік тому +1

      @@Red-Rebel Whoops! Sorry, I must've typed a 0 instead of a 2 there. Thanks for the heads-up!

    • @nexisvids
      @nexisvids Рік тому +1

      37:20 THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SEXY DAMN IT

    • @lucasgibbs4050
      @lucasgibbs4050 11 місяців тому

      If the Modern and Classic timelines are one and the same, then how is Sonic 4 canon with the events of Sonic Mania? They both include Metal Sonic’s return and take place after Sonic CD.

    • @chrisclack4258
      @chrisclack4258 8 місяців тому

      @@lucasgibbs4050 metal sonic of sonic mania was destroyed sonic manic is time travel and dimension travel from the phantom ruby so metal sonic true return is sonic 4 episode metal

  • @AlphaOblivion7
    @AlphaOblivion7 Рік тому +33

    Ian's genuine giant laugh at Kyle's answer to the shipping question is so wonderful

  • @samcybercat
    @samcybercat Рік тому +10

    Saw the thumbnail and I just knew that'd be for my question, haha! Thanks so much Kyle for ending shipping wars with your perfect answer and to Ian for that brilliant dramatic reading of my admittedly far too long question. This show is always a joy :D
    Also, praying the Salami and the BumbleKoffee that some talented person animates that Starline at the drivethru bit :')

  • @Letsplaymoron
    @Letsplaymoron Рік тому +1

    20:08 Huh, I would've said Vanilla and Chaos.

  • @supersonicfan7514
    @supersonicfan7514 Рік тому +3

    26:08 I think Fiona grew to care about Scourge and trust him despite saying “you can’t count on anyone” just because she’s a hypocrite.

  • @slateoffate9812
    @slateoffate9812 Рік тому +11

    31:44 Compromise: Cream is a civilian by herself, and only with Cheese is she on a similar level to the other characters.

    • @Kenner-fj5rp
      @Kenner-fj5rp Рік тому +2

      Even without Cheese she is on the level of other characters.

  • @whaleping
    @whaleping Рік тому +17

    Ian sometime needs Eggman’s brain to answer some of these questions, questionnaires.

  • @slateoffate9812
    @slateoffate9812 Рік тому +2

    Sonamy fans who hate Sally, Sonally fans who hate Amy; but what if Sally and Amy kissed? Sallamy. Also, Sallycole is great, and I ship Sonaze.

  • @System509
    @System509 Рік тому +4

    24:17
    Dibs on animating that

  • @videon6134
    @videon6134 Рік тому +1

    Regarding the time eater question. I recall in the last Archie issues that classic sonic gradually forgot about generations.

  • @leGUIGUI
    @leGUIGUI Рік тому +1

    Question: would it not be possible for a design of Sally and Bunnie having cheek tufts again? After all Big and Blaze are both cats and one has cheek tufts and the other doesn't, so it's not like there is a requirement of absolute consistency concerning the cheeks design.

  • @bonecrushboy2242
    @bonecrushboy2242 Рік тому +7

    A truly CHAOTIC thumbnail! Great art for this episode

  • @Rhyme_Time
    @Rhyme_Time Рік тому +3

    Here's hoping that Mighty and Ray (or The Chaotix) could watch over Angel Island at some point. I believe this happened in Archie before which is where I pull the idea from.

  • @ChiefMedicPururu
    @ChiefMedicPururu Рік тому +2

    Cream not being a hero and just a civilian is an absolute lie and is spitting on Sonic Advance 2, Advance 3, Battle, Heroes and many other more things where she was there.

  • @spiderguy777
    @spiderguy777 Рік тому +1

    If you used the Chaos emeralds and Sol emeralds together, or if the Sol emeralds didn't like it If Blaze used both sets of emeralds, what would happen? was the dimensional destabilization in Rush from those emeralds energy being near or just both sets of emeralds being in the same realm

  • @milesprowerdavis7658
    @milesprowerdavis7658 Рік тому +1

    Bumbleland theme park, get your Bumble bucks, and go to Null Space.

  • @Mew4U
    @Mew4U Рік тому +1

    1:47 I can hear Beavis and Butt-Head say , "heh, he said organ, heh heh..."

    • @BumbleKingVideos
      @BumbleKingVideos  Рік тому +1

      He said bum...bleKast. -Kyle

    • @Mew4U
      @Mew4U Рік тому

      ​@@BumbleKingVideos 🍑🐝

  • @megacrashthehedgehog5377
    @megacrashthehedgehog5377 Рік тому +1

    Truly, Kyle, you have brought peace to the Sonic fandom. The shipping wars are over at lasts!

  • @aerosyinc
    @aerosyinc 10 місяців тому

    I’m just imagining surge kicking the back of starline car seat

  • @slateoffate9812
    @slateoffate9812 Рік тому

    22:20 If I was in Kyle's position... Well, as much as I'd like to, I can't say Whisper and Tangle, not when the ship is already all but canon and I'm certain there's some behind the scenes attempts to make it official. So, um... I'm going with Sonic and Blaze.

  • @fiblin483
    @fiblin483 Рік тому +1

    Ok that stuff about classic dug deep but it's so funny at the same time 😭

  • @numebernode
    @numebernode Рік тому +2

    (Apologies in advance if this question was already asked before) Regarding E-117 Sigma from Scrapnik Island, does he still have an animal inside him, or is he powered by something else?

  • @stevena488
    @stevena488 Рік тому +3

    Y'all are referencing "Fried Green Tomatoes" now?
    Thanks Kyle, now I have to rewatch that. Ah, who am I kidding, it's a good movie and I'm not grumpy about it.

  • @PhilipAJones
    @PhilipAJones Рік тому +1

    34:49
    Sonic PAG?
    You gotta be trollin'! 😅

    • @BumbleKingVideos
      @BumbleKingVideos  Рік тому +1

      I'm sorry, I don't know what it is that makes us both want to say G instead of J!

    • @PhilipAJones
      @PhilipAJones Рік тому

      @@BumbleKingVideos You're not the first...and you certainly won't be the last.

  • @andtails
    @andtails Рік тому +2

    Ah yeah, keep these Final Fantasy IX references coming!

  • @weredrago2
    @weredrago2 Рік тому +2

    A lot of multiverse questions out the gate for this one.

  • @JairoATobon
    @JairoATobon Рік тому +3

    How will you write Belle if she teams up with Tangle and Whisper in a future issue or miniseries?

  • @lunastar681
    @lunastar681 Рік тому +7

    Someone animate the starline drive thru bit PLEASE
    That is gold!

  • @TheEggPaladin
    @TheEggPaladin Рік тому +1

    If Ian had improv voice classes in the past, I must say i'm almost jealous 😏🤣 LMAO

  • @JasaeBushae
    @JasaeBushae Рік тому +1

    Question: How would the various members of the Eggman family including Belle react to this modern iteration of Mecha Sonic that has come of Scrapnik Island?

  • @speedhog58
    @speedhog58 Рік тому +1

    Question: If the events of Sonic Mania are to be considered canon to the classic era; doesn’t that mean that Sonic has technically dealt with the Phantom Ruby twice?

    • @chrisclack4258
      @chrisclack4258 8 місяців тому

      sonic mania was time travel and dimension travel from the phantom ruby

  • @michealbounds550
    @michealbounds550 Рік тому +1

    So...no Austrian Goat Milk Latte at the BumbleKoffee Shop?

  • @gracekim1998
    @gracekim1998 Рік тому +1

    Is Fang from the special stage zone/dimension the chaos emeralds are usually found in the classic games? 😅

  • @tetradyne4987
    @tetradyne4987 Рік тому +1

    A finger on the Monkey’s Paw curls. You are given the green light to bring back the Freedom Fighters and anyone else from Archie comics that you want in their own focused series. However, to grab readers’ interest and ensure that the cast doesn’t feel too old, it is mandated that this series must be a highschool AU. What do you do?

  • @ThatSoni
    @ThatSoni Рік тому +2

    For BumbleKoffee, we ride on the Algorithm Quest!
    Jacksepticeye got competition

  • @Sonic_jams
    @Sonic_jams Рік тому +2

    Ian going through a tunnel or something, discord chugging

  • @WolfofKaos
    @WolfofKaos Рік тому

    31:02 - 31:44 I see... *Sighs* I was willing to tolerate the whole "Shadow and Rouge were never friends" despite the clear evidence that they were. But Cream never being a hero? Having always been a pure civilian? That is the most extreme bullshit I've ever heard. I'm honestly very tempted to curse the people involved in that 'decision', but I know that'd be going too far over a video game character.
    Well, I'm glad that you don't agree with that bullshit, Ian, and I seriously thank you for answering my question. And don't worry, I know not to shoot the messenger lol

    • @Kenner-fj5rp
      @Kenner-fj5rp Рік тому

      "Rouge and Shadow were never friends" and that lie? This, and the Cream thing, is basically an insult to the events that occurred in the games where they make appearances.

  • @thesithsaiyan4864
    @thesithsaiyan4864 Рік тому +4

    Who is smarter Tails or Eggman?

    • @kaxcommentssomethingREAL
      @kaxcommentssomethingREAL Рік тому +1

      i'm not ian but i think their intelligence is _at times_ evenly matched, sometimes things can go good for tails and he has a better grasp of the situation he's in, or Eggman manages to outsmart the fox boy, like how he did in SA2

    • @playerback7722
      @playerback7722 Рік тому +1

      Or Tails outsmarting Eggman in Forces

    • @DarkHeroAkutare
      @DarkHeroAkutare Рік тому +1

      I feel like they're at the level where more raw brainpower doesn't make much of a difference. It's more about their personalities and philosophies on how to handle problems. So, a given situation might favor one or the other, but it's practically impossible to quantify if one is really superior.
      I'd say *in general* Eggman has more experience and is better able to draw on that, whereas Tails is calmer and less prone to making bad decisions in the heat of the moment due to anger or impatience. But even that's not 100% true 100% of the time.

  • @goombaballdasher969
    @goombaballdasher969 Рік тому +1

    Kyle lost his neutral alignment this episode

  • @Aberyyyy
    @Aberyyyy Рік тому +1

    You guys should sell scones and call then 360 No Scones

  • @metalskulkbanepl161
    @metalskulkbanepl161 Рік тому +4

    Question, semi-dumb, semi-deep.
    Cream ENJOYS being nice and helping people. Zeena ENJOYS being nasty and cruel. From a certain point of view, aren’t they the same?

    • @Twilord_
      @Twilord_ Рік тому

      I had a similar thought recently.
      Isn't Sonic in Black Knight being more evil than Eggman or Black Doom. Eggman and Black Doom have twisted priorities (Eggman wants to improve the world and Doom wants to feed his starving children), but Sonic is gonna mess up an entire kingdom for no reason?

    • @metalskulkbanepl161
      @metalskulkbanepl161 Рік тому +1

      @@Twilord_ Black Knight is kinda grey moral wise, but in the end King Artur was evil tyrant, corrupt by power of the Scabbard.

    • @Twilord_
      @Twilord_ Рік тому

      @@metalskulkbanepl161 Sonic didn't really know the situation when he agreed to regicide.
      Granted I do think regicide is a good moral default.

    • @metalskulkbanepl161
      @metalskulkbanepl161 Рік тому +1

      @@Twilord_ Bunch of armored sketchy looking guys weere attacking a young (seemingly defenseless) girl. He acted on a logical first impressions.
      Most heroes would intervene in situation like this. This turned out a little more complicated, but still.
      And by the end of the story he set everything right.

    • @supersonicfan7514
      @supersonicfan7514 Рік тому

      Uh, no, that makes them complete opposites.

  • @davidcamilo8577
    @davidcamilo8577 Рік тому +1

    KYLE wants to see the world burning

  • @ukyoize
    @ukyoize Рік тому

    8:45 just release an art of classic sonic on sonic chanel.

  • @PhilipAJones
    @PhilipAJones Рік тому +2

    WHAT'S WITH ALL THE THEORETICAL PHYSICS QUESTIONS!!??!

  • @DiSCERiTY
    @DiSCERiTY Рік тому +2

    why does silentdreamer keep asking weird questions like if math and scientific stuff is in sonic

  • @ukyoize
    @ukyoize Рік тому

    MY OWN CLONE

  • @gracekim1998
    @gracekim1998 Рік тому

    Hello 😊

  • @4KidsRocks1
    @4KidsRocks1 Рік тому +3

    I feel like Cream being considered a civilian makes sense, especially since her mother wouldn't approve of her being a full time hero. Even back during the Sonic X comic, Issue 13 has Vanilla telling Cream that children shouldn't be responsible for saving the world and she criticized Chris's mother for letting him go on life endangering fights against Dr. Eggman.

    • @supersonicfan7514
      @supersonicfan7514 Рік тому

      Yeah, and she barely has any powers.

    • @pedanticat9479
      @pedanticat9479 Рік тому +2

      @@supersonicfan7514 She can fly and spindash with her being a playable character in Sonic Advance 1 and 2

    • @pedanticat9479
      @pedanticat9479 Рік тому +2

      Not really. Between Sonic Heroes and Sonic Advance, she's in the spotlight. Plus Sonic X is a separate continuity

    • @WolfofKaos
      @WolfofKaos Рік тому +5

      @@pedanticat9479 Not to mention the Sonic X comic is *very* different from the actual anime and shouldn't be viewed as a serious source regarding the characters. Vanilla in that comic didn't want Cream to help with saving the world, but Vanilla in the anime was perfectly okay with Cream going on a space-faring adventure alongside the other heroes to fight these powerful and hostile aliens. And an episode even had Vector want to bring Cream back to Vanilla out of concern for her safety, which was shown to be very misguided on his end and all the heroes vouched for Cream staying with them as a valued member of the group. Which is further proof that SEGA's official word of Cream "always wasn't [a hero]" being extreme bullshit.