June 21st, 2023 Question Timestamps: ------------------------------------------- 0:55 - *[IDW Spoilers]* With the wholesome handholding between Tangle and Whisper with a Lesbian pride flag color scheme as the scene's background, can we finally say, once and for all, that Whispangle is, in fact, an official ship, or are they still very very very very very very very very very good friends? Thanks! 2:46 - Do you sometimes feel frustrated with the task of trying to incorporate a lot of elements from several disparate Sonic games into one canon? How much are you able to incorporate? Do you have the freedom to acknowledge or ignore certain divisive moments or characterization? 4:16 - Do you think we could see the avatar from Sonic Forces return if they were silent and fully covered such as in a cloak and mask? I’ll avoid fan ideas, but I imagine the character could take off their mask facing away from the viewer to show the other characters who they are. I think it could be neat to play around with a character that could look and sound like anything but is never seen or heard by the viewer. Thoughts? 6:18 - What If someone convinced Kit into believing it was opposite day and that Surge was in on it? 7:45 - If Surge and Kit are made with the Metal Virus's regeneration and healing abilities, does that mean that their limbs and other essential body parts can be decapitated and restored like new just like the zombots? If yes, does that make Surge and Kit immortal? If so, why didn't Starline implement this technology on himself? That would have come in real handy in issue 50. (Ha! The dead duck jokes will never die!) 8:46 - Are you two familiar with The Amazing World of Gumball? I recently watched the series and have grown to love it. So I wanted to contribute to the running list of worlds in Starline's isekai adventures. How would the "doctor" react and interact with the wacky world of Elmore? 11:38 - Hey you two! Ian, you've mentioned multiple times that you'd like to see some more transformations in Sonic but with drawbacks or requirements so it doesn't get abused. Is there anything you'd like to do with the Chaos Rings from Knuckles Chaotix? Make Chaos Charmy even hyper-er? 14:37 - I have concern over Sonic Superstars' level design. That scene with the big robot Orca reminded me of New Super Mario Bros Wii's empty, multiplayer focused level layouts. And Arzest itself has a pretty bad reputation with platformers. Any words of wisdom to reassure me? 16:09 - Let's talk Espio for a second. Back in Archie we got to explore a lil bit of Espio's ninja background during the Iron Dominion Arc. But in IDW/Games its been pretty much a case of "he's a ninja" with no explanation. Has SEGA ever mentioned/talked about Ninja Clans in the Sonic World? Or is Espio just The Last Ninja? We had Heavy Shinobi is Mania/Classic; but since then pretty much nada. Bring on the Color Pallet Swap Ninja Chameleons! Although technically Mortal Kombat has a ninja named Chameleon AND Khameleon...oh well! 19:06 - Rationalize however you want for the sake of this question, assuming classic Eggman can only power his creations with animals how is the Death Egg powered in Sonic 2? Many normal animals, one big (or Big) animal, or a third option loophole? 20:58 - What can I do, to make SEGA give us more sonamy in the comics/games/shows etc. every IDW issue, I pray that there will be actual SonAmy in it, but there never is, nothing that in my opinion is worth writing home about. I feel like I’ve been on this endless sonamy merry go round 21:51 - Everyone is sent a notice to come help take out Eggman's new base immediately. It's a floating fortress out above the middle of the ocean, so Shadow has to take a 4 hour plane ride to get to it. And because of how everyone's schedule happened to line up and where they were all located, he coincidentally has to share it with just Tangle for the whole trip, which he only finds out after the plane had started taking off. How does the flight go between the two? P.S. He has no chaos emerald so he can't warp away. He's stuck on the plane with her. 25:13 - If King Maximillion Acorn and King Nigel Acorn met during [a] crossover after learning about the history of their other self, what would they think of each other? What were their conversation be like? What would they think of how they raise their children and run their version of the acorn kingdom? If the conversation ends badly with an aggressive argument, how would their Sally’s try to defuse such an argument? 26:38 - We all know that the Zombots were inspired by the metal skin feature from Heroes. Recently, by that I mean a month or more, I’ve discovered the Prelates, from the Pre-boot Archie era, in the Silver Age, to be specific! So this got me thinking: Did the Prelates also served as an inspiration for the Zombots? Or were they also inspired by the metal skin feature? 28:00 - How would a team up between Charles Entertainment Cheese and Dr. Eggman go? 29:39 - Since I work in optical I'm curious: Is Dr. Starline Near-sighted or Far-sighted? Does he need bifocals yet? Are his glasses even prescription or are they just there for the aesthetic? 30:41 - In the Japanese dub for SA2, at the end of the final boss, Shadow posits that perhaps Sonic is the true ultimate life form. Nowadays, it’s hard to imagine him being so complimentary to anyone. What happened since SA2 that made him so much harder towards others? 32:20 - For reasons beyond our comprehension, Sega's top brass are now demanding that you include a version of one-off AOSTH antagonist Doctor Quark as a recurring villain for the next few arcs in IDW Sonic. How would you reinvent him and distinguish him from Eggman and Starline? 35:54 - Have you thought about doing an coloso course on writing stories? 37:53 - It's movie night for the Sonic game and IDW cast, and each character is expected to bring snacks for everyone and a movie to suggest. What does each character bring? ------------------------------------------- 42:12 - Thanks to those who support the show 45:14 - Outtake 1 *(I think the thumbnail helped it quite a bit)* 45:56 - Outtake 2 46:40 - Outtake 3 47:45 - Outtake 4 49:05 - Outtake 5
2:57 I know that pain, from reading yuri manga and some of it's readership, some people wont see characters as gay or in a gay relationship until the couple is kissing and sleeping together for 50 pages straight, and even then some will still deny the existence of lesbians -_-
While I'm disappointed that Whispangle is still technically not canon, at least we can celebrate the canonicity of nanomachines (son). --- Steamed Hams references this episode: 0 Total since count began: 9 🍔
Yeah um they’re not allowed to do ships until the characters are established as a thing in their inception 😅 like the two bird guys🤷♀️ from my understanding
@biohazardbin7438 same, I really am not interested to see relationships in Sonic. Even Sonic and Amy I don't wanna see together, I'm perfectly happy with Amy having a one sided thing for Sonic and it being played off for laughs. Relationships in Sonic the Hedgehog of all things are just so unnecessary and Archie did a damn good job of proving that
@@djbubblegum9975 precisely the case, and most people who are shippers just want to see Whisper and Tangle get together because they're weird and look too deep into everything. just leave it out of the series; period.
@@biohazardbin It doesn't need to have anything explicit like kissing or being overly romantic like dating. I like the ship and I think that the characters simply finding power and comfort in one another is enough proof of a meaningful bond and could be seem as queerplatonic. But I don't really care whether its canon or not, Im simply happy that even if its not canon the comics are allowed to not only give implications of Sonamy but also for other ships like in this case, Whispangle without giving a damm if it might be seem as canon or not, just focusing on giving us a glimpse of their interactions. I just want to see them being together and finding strength on each other, like they already do in the comics. Also while there is a handful of people that are desperate for their ship to become canon, I know a good handful of people that would DESPISE if their ship became canon, because it becomes so much less fun, less moldable, and it doesn't fit the franchise.
@@FrostTheHobidon I’m going to be frank, I didn’t read the comics, I just looked up its history on fandom and watched comic dubs and reviews of it on youtube, in Laymans terms, I did my research!
You know it's a good episode when it includes lesbians, nanomachines, and soft robotics! ^v^ Three of my favorite things! Seriously though, this one was extra fun.
Question: It was asked at another Q&A what would Knuckles' reaction to his movie, Boom, and Classic self would be, but he still has some other rad reds to meet. How would he feel about his story book, Shatterverse, and Moebius counterparts?
Give me more weeaboo Espio pleeeease😂 also when you were just using “Quark” without his honorific, I kept imagine the Ferengi from Deep Space 9 making funky soft robots
26:38 AH! XD That was before you answered it in a previous bumblekast live. XD (I now wonder how many questions I submitted long-before you answered them, thus the question is asked twice. 😂)
I think the majority of the fandom consider Gadget to be the canon version of the avatar character. It would be cool to see him show up again but if it don’t work, it don’t work lol
@BKQA After rereading the overpowered arc, Eggman makes note that the way which Surge was using the Dynamo Cage was not the intended method it gets me to wonder what is the correct way to use the Dynamo Cage? Is it something that you can elaborate for us or is this classified for a future knowingsmile?
We all know that the Chaotix needs money so they Can pay the rent. But i have always wonderd… why are they poor? Is it because Vector has a gambeling problem?
Hi just a quick question regarding the Q&A Master List, is there any way to confirm if one has sent a priority question? Cause I did write one, but cant seem to find any actual confirmation of it being recieved anywhere.
If you get a screen confirming that your submission was successful after you submit your question, then we've received it. I just checked and we do in fact have yours. We've actually already recorded answering it, so you'll hear it in an episode next week! -Kyle
Dear Ian. I'll be saving any Sonic related questions for later. But my question, if answerable, what was the process you had to go threw in order to become a freelance writer, how did it all begin? Asking as someone who hopes to one day become one in the future.
IIRC, the touched on this before. TLDR, don't do what he did. If memory serves he got his "in" by getting in touch with a publisher directly which is a no no, especially in this day in age. He has more helpful resources listed on his website.
@@callumcrane241 Yeah. It's hard to track all the questions they answer lol But typically for advice like this, he recommends his website. Apparently has some writeups on the topic.
Question: Mr. Flynn, in Sonic Advance 3, Dr Eggman was able to completely warp reality with just one chaos emerald. Can Super Sonic (who has all 7 chaos emeralds inside him)do the same or does he need more practice channeling and manipulating chaos energy
Unlikely. In 06, Shadow was imprisoned for 200 years, yet Silver was still out and about. For them to be related, Shadow would've had to escaped his prison and come back at some point, or Silver is extremely old.
If tangle had the sword from sonic and the black knight (Caliburn) what do you think would happen and would what convosations would you think they would have, any chaos? 😂
It's both very dumb and a shame that whenever a project bombs (whether it's a movie, game or whatever) it seems like the money guys blame it on random details (like the genre, or the characterizations) rather than the important things that are ultimately responsible like execution, bad gameplay, a bad script, rushing the product, etc. I get the sense that after Sonic 06 and StH Sega interpreted those flops players not wanting complex plots or complex characters. Rather than the true answer being that people want finished games with good gameplay.
Cant speak for everybody but knowing which of the animals are fucking was my least favourite part of the Archie comic Not because Ken was weird but cuz I dont need to know this shit, its Sonic The Hedgehog for goodness sake
Man, imagine two people holding (especially women for whom is more acceptable) NOT being a ship automatically! In all seriousness, it's kind of sad two people can't be personally close nowadays without getting shipped. But alright, no official ships allows fans to run wild in their own creations that keep the fandom running.
June 21st, 2023 Question Timestamps:
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0:55 - *[IDW Spoilers]* With the wholesome handholding between Tangle and Whisper with a Lesbian pride flag color scheme as the scene's background, can we finally say, once and for all, that Whispangle is, in fact, an official ship, or are they still very very very very very very very very very good friends? Thanks!
2:46 - Do you sometimes feel frustrated with the task of trying to incorporate a lot of elements from several disparate Sonic games into one canon? How much are you able to incorporate? Do you have the freedom to acknowledge or ignore certain divisive moments or characterization?
4:16 - Do you think we could see the avatar from Sonic Forces return if they were silent and fully covered such as in a cloak and mask? I’ll avoid fan ideas, but I imagine the character could take off their mask facing away from the viewer to show the other characters who they are. I think it could be neat to play around with a character that could look and sound like anything but is never seen or heard by the viewer. Thoughts?
6:18 - What If someone convinced Kit into believing it was opposite day and that Surge was in on it?
7:45 - If Surge and Kit are made with the Metal Virus's regeneration and healing abilities, does that mean that their limbs and other essential body parts can be decapitated and restored like new just like the zombots? If yes, does that make Surge and Kit immortal? If so, why didn't Starline implement this technology on himself? That would have come in real handy in issue 50. (Ha! The dead duck jokes will never die!)
8:46 - Are you two familiar with The Amazing World of Gumball? I recently watched the series and have grown to love it. So I wanted to contribute to the running list of worlds in Starline's isekai adventures. How would the "doctor" react and interact with the wacky world of Elmore?
11:38 - Hey you two! Ian, you've mentioned multiple times that you'd like to see some more transformations in Sonic but with drawbacks or requirements so it doesn't get abused. Is there anything you'd like to do with the Chaos Rings from Knuckles Chaotix? Make Chaos Charmy even hyper-er?
14:37 - I have concern over Sonic Superstars' level design. That scene with the big robot Orca reminded me of New Super Mario Bros Wii's empty, multiplayer focused level layouts. And Arzest itself has a pretty bad reputation with platformers. Any words of wisdom to reassure me?
16:09 - Let's talk Espio for a second. Back in Archie we got to explore a lil bit of Espio's ninja background during the Iron Dominion Arc. But in IDW/Games its been pretty much a case of "he's a ninja" with no explanation. Has SEGA ever mentioned/talked about Ninja Clans in the Sonic World? Or is Espio just The Last Ninja? We had Heavy Shinobi is Mania/Classic; but since then pretty much nada. Bring on the Color Pallet Swap Ninja Chameleons! Although technically Mortal Kombat has a ninja named Chameleon AND Khameleon...oh well!
19:06 - Rationalize however you want for the sake of this question, assuming classic Eggman can only power his creations with animals how is the Death Egg powered in Sonic 2? Many normal animals, one big (or Big) animal, or a third option loophole?
20:58 - What can I do, to make SEGA give us more sonamy in the comics/games/shows etc. every IDW issue, I pray that there will be actual SonAmy in it, but there never is, nothing that in my opinion is worth writing home about. I feel like I’ve been on this endless sonamy merry go round
21:51 - Everyone is sent a notice to come help take out Eggman's new base immediately. It's a floating fortress out above the middle of the ocean, so Shadow has to take a 4 hour plane ride to get to it. And because of how everyone's schedule happened to line up and where they were all located, he coincidentally has to share it with just Tangle for the whole trip, which he only finds out after the plane had started taking off. How does the flight go between the two? P.S. He has no chaos emerald so he can't warp away. He's stuck on the plane with her.
25:13 - If King Maximillion Acorn and King Nigel Acorn met during [a] crossover after learning about the history of their other self, what would they think of each other? What were their conversation be like? What would they think of how they raise their children and run their version of the acorn kingdom? If the conversation ends badly with an aggressive argument, how would their Sally’s try to defuse such an argument?
26:38 - We all know that the Zombots were inspired by the metal skin feature from Heroes. Recently, by that I mean a month or more, I’ve discovered the Prelates, from the Pre-boot Archie era, in the Silver Age, to be specific! So this got me thinking: Did the Prelates also served as an inspiration for the Zombots? Or were they also inspired by the metal skin feature?
28:00 - How would a team up between Charles Entertainment Cheese and Dr. Eggman go?
29:39 - Since I work in optical I'm curious: Is Dr. Starline Near-sighted or Far-sighted? Does he need bifocals yet? Are his glasses even prescription or are they just there for the aesthetic?
30:41 - In the Japanese dub for SA2, at the end of the final boss, Shadow posits that perhaps Sonic is the true ultimate life form. Nowadays, it’s hard to imagine him being so complimentary to anyone. What happened since SA2 that made him so much harder towards others?
32:20 - For reasons beyond our comprehension, Sega's top brass are now demanding that you include a version of one-off AOSTH antagonist Doctor Quark as a recurring villain for the next few arcs in IDW Sonic. How would you reinvent him and distinguish him from Eggman and Starline?
35:54 - Have you thought about doing an coloso course on writing stories?
37:53 - It's movie night for the Sonic game and IDW cast, and each character is expected to bring snacks for everyone and a movie to suggest. What does each character bring?
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42:12 - Thanks to those who support the show
45:14 - Outtake 1
*(I think the thumbnail helped it quite a bit)*
45:56 - Outtake 2
46:40 - Outtake 3
47:45 - Outtake 4
49:05 - Outtake 5
2:57 I know that pain, from reading yuri manga and some of it's readership, some people wont see characters as gay or in a gay relationship until the couple is kissing and sleeping together for 50 pages straight, and even then some will still deny the existence of lesbians -_-
Oh my god, they were roommates
For Shadow forcing himself to be as patient as possible with Tangle on a flight, we ride on the Algorithm Quest!
While I'm disappointed that Whispangle is still technically not canon, at least we can celebrate the canonicity of nanomachines (son).
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Steamed Hams references this episode: 0
Total since count began: 9 🍔
Yeah um they’re not allowed to do ships until the characters are established as a thing in their inception 😅 like the two bird guys🤷♀️ from my understanding
thank god Archie ruined ships, I would hate to see them literally everywhere
@biohazardbin7438 same, I really am not interested to see relationships in Sonic. Even Sonic and Amy I don't wanna see together, I'm perfectly happy with Amy having a one sided thing for Sonic and it being played off for laughs. Relationships in Sonic the Hedgehog of all things are just so unnecessary and Archie did a damn good job of proving that
@@djbubblegum9975 precisely the case, and most people who are shippers just want to see Whisper and Tangle get together because they're weird and look too deep into everything. just leave it out of the series; period.
@@biohazardbin It doesn't need to have anything explicit like kissing or being overly romantic like dating. I like the ship and I think that the characters simply finding power and comfort in one another is enough proof of a meaningful bond and could be seem as queerplatonic. But I don't really care whether its canon or not, Im simply happy that even if its not canon the comics are allowed to not only give implications of Sonamy but also for other ships like in this case, Whispangle without giving a damm if it might be seem as canon or not, just focusing on giving us a glimpse of their interactions. I just want to see them being together and finding strength on each other, like they already do in the comics.
Also while there is a handful of people that are desperate for their ship to become canon, I know a good handful of people that would DESPISE if their ship became canon, because it becomes so much less fun, less moldable, and it doesn't fit the franchise.
25:12 the idea of Nigel Acorn meets Max Acorn sounds interesting.
Glad you think that, it was my question.
Honestly, I should’ve gone with the version of King Max from a while before he lost his legs and mind!
@@gabeheartz13saravia97 understand
@@FrostTheHobidon
I’m going to be frank, I didn’t read the comics, I just looked up its history on fandom and watched comic dubs and reviews of it on youtube, in Laymans terms, I did my research!
Honestly, Ian's interpretation of Qwark gives me Bill Cipher vibes. I like it.
Oh my god they were roommates
Or I guess since comic characters can technically be considered cartoon characters you can call them…
Toonmates
You know it's a good episode when it includes lesbians, nanomachines, and soft robotics! ^v^ Three of my favorite things!
Seriously though, this one was extra fun.
They aint gay
@@ItsB1998Just because you ain't gay doesn't mean you should shove it in everyones face 🙄
@@ItsB1998they are!
@@sillyandjoyus only in your mind
History will say they were good friends!
dude id LOVE a "bumble course" from you guys!
Love Kyle stepping in to tell it like it is in regards to Shadow's regressions as a character. He's so right.
Question: It was asked at another Q&A what would Knuckles' reaction to his movie, Boom, and Classic self would be, but he still has some other rad reds to meet. How would he feel about his story book, Shatterverse, and Moebius counterparts?
Either guarding the emerald and do there own thing.
Give me more weeaboo Espio pleeeease😂 also when you were just using “Quark” without his honorific, I kept imagine the Ferengi from Deep Space 9 making funky soft robots
26:38 AH! XD
That was before you answered it in a previous bumblekast live. XD
(I now wonder how many questions I submitted long-before you answered them, thus the question is asked twice. 😂)
2:38 Perry the Platypus cameo??!?!?!
I think the majority of the fandom consider Gadget to be the canon version of the avatar character. It would be cool to see him show up again but if it don’t work, it don’t work lol
Besides, we all know the true canon version is Ian Jr!
@@Boomie_365IAN JR IS THE GOAT, THE GOAT!!!!!
Espio being a ninja otaku omfg 😭
If you could give Amy power what would it be?
@BKQA After rereading the overpowered arc, Eggman makes note that the way which Surge was using the Dynamo Cage was not the intended method it gets me to wonder what is the correct way to use the Dynamo Cage?
Is it something that you can elaborate for us or is this classified for a future knowingsmile?
We all know that the Chaotix needs money so they Can pay the rent. But i have always wonderd… why are they poor? Is it because Vector has a gambeling problem?
Hi just a quick question regarding the Q&A Master List, is there any way to confirm if one has sent a priority question? Cause I did write one, but cant seem to find any actual confirmation of it being recieved anywhere.
If you get a screen confirming that your submission was successful after you submit your question, then we've received it. I just checked and we do in fact have yours. We've actually already recorded answering it, so you'll hear it in an episode next week! -Kyle
I see, thanks! Will look forward to watching it :)
the roomate memes
Dear Ian. I'll be saving any Sonic related questions for later. But my question, if answerable, what was the process you had to go threw in order to become a freelance writer, how did it all begin? Asking as someone who hopes to one day become one in the future.
IIRC, the touched on this before. TLDR, don't do what he did. If memory serves he got his "in" by getting in touch with a publisher directly which is a no no, especially in this day in age.
He has more helpful resources listed on his website.
@@NickyShadow99
hang on what!? He was asked this before!?
@@callumcrane241 Yeah. It's hard to track all the questions they answer lol
But typically for advice like this, he recommends his website. Apparently has some writeups on the topic.
@@NickyShadow99
Wait Ian Flynn has a website?
37:30 I will keep a mental note to check if this interaction had any results later hmmm
I saw your #knowingsmile for Sonic Central you know something Ian? I can't wait to see what gets announced on Sonic Central 👍.
Alright it’s the Boot to the head Sketch and Kyle is reading Ian’s will. What members of the Sonic cast get a Boot to the head and why?
I’d very much apply to bumble college!
Question: Mr. Flynn, in Sonic Advance 3, Dr Eggman was able to completely warp reality with just one chaos emerald. Can Super Sonic (who has all 7 chaos emeralds inside him)do the same or does he need more practice channeling and manipulating chaos energy
You said that you were inishaly planing on using Hiper Sonic in final fight in Sonic Frontirs.
How would you explain how theat's possible?
In previous episode you sed that Shadow is immortal.
If that's true could there be a possibility that he is Silver's dad.😮
Izuka confirmed Silver isn't Shadow's descendent
Unlikely. In 06, Shadow was imprisoned for 200 years, yet Silver was still out and about. For them to be related, Shadow would've had to escaped his prison and come back at some point, or Silver is extremely old.
Thanks for clearing it out. 👏👏👏
No
That’s not how generations work 😅
YESSS THE STARLINE LONG HAUL WOOHOO I WILL TAKE THIS VAGUE ANSWER YEAAAAH
LFG LESBIANS!!! WHISPANGLE FTW
I can tell this is a reaction to the thumbnail
Ian and Kyle..?!
If tangle had the sword from sonic and the black knight (Caliburn) what do you think would happen and would what convosations would you think they would have, any chaos? 😂
Is the emerald power clone in Sonic Superstars inspired by Naruto Shadow clone?
Interesting 🤔
It's both very dumb and a shame that whenever a project bombs (whether it's a movie, game or whatever) it seems like the money guys blame it on random details (like the genre, or the characterizations) rather than the important things that are ultimately responsible like execution, bad gameplay, a bad script, rushing the product, etc.
I get the sense that after Sonic 06 and StH Sega interpreted those flops players not wanting complex plots or complex characters. Rather than the true answer being that people want finished games with good gameplay.
It would be boring to give as SonAmy
now.
Wait!🙄
This obsession with ships and sexuality...
need to stop seriously .....
Who cares. Lol
Cant speak for everybody but knowing which of the animals are fucking was my least favourite part of the Archie comic
Not because Ken was weird but cuz I dont need to know this shit, its Sonic The Hedgehog for goodness sake
Man, imagine two people holding (especially women for whom is more acceptable) NOT being a ship automatically!
In all seriousness, it's kind of sad two people can't be personally close nowadays without getting shipped. But alright, no official ships allows fans to run wild in their own creations that keep the fandom running.