Week 114: The Ocheretyne Flower Blooming
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1: Annexed
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3: Military supporters
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someone tell Macron that this is not HOI4 and that sending volunteers has much more consequences that a few points of world tension
He's trying to farm army xp, but he doesn't have good enough relations for an attaché, so this is the next best thing
@@danielutriabrooks477 He wants the French general to get some traits, can't blame him.
@@danielutriabrooks477 that EXP grind is no joke Ukraine is already on full mob and scraping the barrel
*Hungary wants to send 1059 divisions as expeditionary forces*
Больше меньше но россию сдохнет если к ней не лезть так было всегда пока есть враги она существует она всеми силами пытаеться их создать чтоб не рухнуть
yes, given the current terrible situation at the frontline, creating an AI speaker is the most ingenious solution you can come up with
Western priorities at work!
Its actually disgusting
That doesn't necessarily take away resources from the war.
@@iamasalad9080 resources are resources, and I doubt you know what everything you use is made out of, because I will tell you. it's things like platinum and steel, and I would imagine an AI would consist of those things, along with many other important resources. the point is, the resources that could have been used to make weapons, vehicles and ammunition has instead been reallocated into making this AI waifu they are way too proud to show off.
also, not only do you need resources to make stuff, but you need people and time to make stuff as well, and I would prefer not to know how many people it took to make the AI, nor do I wish to know how long it took...
@@CursedAnqxlthe stuff ukraine needs in war isnt made in ukraine with ukrainian ressources tho, a big priority for ukraines should be on appearing interesting to the west so the west remembers to keep sending stuff and AI is hip and popular and whatnot
2:01 I don't understand what Macron's endgoal with all of this is. The situation in west africa is still not stable, and he now wants to open a new front for much smaller gains and aganist a stronger opponent
He's jsut dumb, like all the leaders who imported millions of Arabs and are shocked by them being pro Palestinian.
I assume trying to keep some relevancy on the world stage, as well as saying "gotchu" to Putin in case he does send troops in Ukraine, after Russia kicked France out of Africa. Not to mention trying to divert attention to problems inside of France with the European elections coming soon as he is extremly unpopular. Basically all politicians or journalist who are critical of the situation in Ukraine are called Russian collaborators by mainstream French media
May be political, but it would be one of the few western countries doing something useful, the only drawback would be russian angry words. It would probably be a small force in some border with russia or belarus
Regardless of what Macron thinks if the French went into Ukraine they would get destroyed. People forget what Russia is
What the hell is France doing in west Africa currently?
Ah, yes, the "game changer" Abrams being pulled away from the frontlines. Amazing.
So Ukraine was wrong and admitted it. If this was Russia, they'd say sending the Abrams to get destroyed was a ''genius diversion'' and ''all part of the plan.''
@@colonelarmfeldt8572Whataboutism at its finest
Nobody said it was ever a “game changer”
@@tdestroyer1882Your attempt at memory hole-ing fails
@@leanflavoredpringles2353abrams have not been a game changer since the summer offensive failed
AI spokesperson? They come up with that while sharing a pipe?
Given how Zelensky being an addict, this is not a surprise.
these western edibles ain't shi (proceeds to to trip about AI spokesperson and invading moscow
@@SimplyDuker There you go again with the crack jokes so funny
The advance is actually finally visible on the whole map again! And lmao AI spokesperson, they're missing manpower, so they started using AI lmao.
I'm on Ukraine's side in this conflict, but even I can't deny that an AI spokesperson is just desperate at this point
What about them suspending human rights? lmao
Let's also not forget canceling elections.
@@geoffrey111995 my brother in viva cristo rei russia is doing the exact same thing
@@kevinaguilar7541 That's not an atypical thing lol, but a lot of others things are
@@JM-hl9id I don't care if it's a common thing in wars. It's just wrong.
Not just an AI spokesman but its black woman as if it was an American Hollywood movie. I guess Zelenksy is going back to his roots.
zelensky is trying to grind diversity bucks
That woman is a Ukrainian singer. You can google her name, I think she is based in Kharkiv (or was before the war).
Fu--! Now Hollywood is already catching up to Ukraine?????
@@user-kk4sj4ih3epretty sure a black woman isn't Ukrainian
Its obviously a propaganda stunt to appeal to the americans lol
Son:"Dad, I want to buy HoI4"
Dad:"We've already got HoI4 at home"
HoI4 at home:
Millenium Dawn mod lol
I'm not a military expert but this appears to be a full-scale retreat.
It was expected that Russia would come out on top in this war, bigger population, bigger economy than Ukraine, capable of producing weapons despite sanctions, etc, the only thing that can be speculated is if this war was worth it for Russia in the long term
The US should’ve stayed out of the war, the only reason they are helping Ukraine is only because it’s Russia invading, the war should have been over a long time ago but US involvement slows it down. I think it’s obvious the ones that aren’t involved are just increasing the amount of fatalities in this conflict.
It's not like Russia wanted this in the first place.
@@Loterrachthey are the ones that invaded Ukraine. Yes, NATO was a perceived threat, but the Russian Government made the choice to attack.
@@Loterrach yes poor russia
This is what they do in general, they are freezing whatever war they are in because they can't win it
This is the first time I can visibly see a change in the map, even if it’s just a single pixel
Does that mean it's no longer WW1
@@gmdarmek .... Yeah... WW3, maybe the spark/start of the beginning for CW2 (Cold War 2) against the west
@@jaypolas4136 cold war 2 started just when invasion happened
@@gmdarmek trust me.. thats barely the start of the beginning, more is to come... The entire conflict started in 2014.
@@jaypolas4136 we can go even deeper to russian georgian war of 2008
Can someone aware please tell what's up with the AI spokesperon?Are they trying to appeal to tech companies or something?
Likely it's to hit a wider audience more quickly. They have the press statements, but the world is a big place with many languages and dialects.
I still think it's likely a bad move in the short to medium term, but that's the thing, as the model gets sufficiently refined it might grow into a valuable tool on the pr front.
She is black so yeah.
its just to act like: hey guys we're so cool, we're spending money on some useless shit while our country is dying! Our country is very developed and not corrupted as fuсk, we live just like people do in eu, pls send us more money
Considering Russia waste so much money in their navy, nukes and other shit Ukraine's AI is very cheap by comparison
They are, I think.
France wants to act like a top dog so bad
France does have a much better military than both Ukraine and Russia
Russia has 410k dead and wounded right now. That would double in a few weeks should France get involved
@@christiandauz3742what the nonsense you just said?
@@christiandauz3742Russia actually has 2 billion wounded and 10 trillion dead, get outta here bot
@@JorjiCostava-mm6vuahem what also my text bugged help aaaa
@@christiandauz3742 RUS #2 in world
🇷🇺: Check out my gains dude 💪
🇺🇦: Check out my AI-generated spokesperson 😎
🇷🇺: wut 😳
410k dead and wounded Russians/Separatists say otherwise
same amount of dead/wounded ukrainians:@@christiandauz3742
@@christiandauz3742source: CNN?
@@christiandauz3742where i got this information: bootleg mcd website with facts in it
@@christiandauz3742fake info pulled from your nonsense brain
Ukraine announced it will suspend its adherence to the what😟
This is the price of freedom champ: All of your freedom.
Why don't you read the rest, it's fighting a war of national survival, all countries even perfect democracies would so this.
@@dodderythedromedary6890 "a war of national survival" where the nation survives but just has no men left
@@mattc9598 better dead than red
if you said better dead than red, you are already dead
Emmanuel Macron, The French President is like in HOI4 but on steroids.
"France wants to send 5 divisions"
Accept Deny
Ukraine suspending human rights is such a brilliant move, like the entire reason the russians started this is because they claimed ukraine violated human rights.
The European convention of human rights is not UN Charter of human rights
Applying the European convention of human rights in its fullest is however necessary to join the EU
Russia has never agreed to follow these human rights in the first place, so all this does is slowing down Ukrainian EU-integration.
1:02 No human rights :(
Too be fair human rights were shit in Ukraine way before the war, even if you base the date off of 2014.
Hey many editors on the battle of Huliaipole Wikipedia page have mentioned that this is the history of a certain city during a war instead of a single battle.
1:56, there should be Shoigu, but great video.
No way Ukraine pulled a Kwebbelkop 💀
Fr
Can't wait for the tsar Bo-
Macron continously edging for WW3
What's with the ai spokesperson? Why on earth did they do that??
probably because no one wants to be a target of bullying when the reports from the frontline aren't so happy
don't forget that it's a black woman too 🤦♂️
@@user-vk7zv3he1m it is random but what's wrong with that lol
@@WrRAMMI black and mulatto people are like a fraction of a percentage of ukrainian population
@@WrRAMMIthey are a fraction of a percentage of ukrainian population, so hardly very representative
What are the Marines brigades doing, I know that they are operating in Krynky but it didn’t require 4 brigades to manage 1 platoon across the river
With the amazing first world ever AI spokeperson who is an ukrainian black (I wonder why, maybe its to make happy someone) the Ukraine has yet another gamechanger! Crimea beach party 2025!!
Just imagine the AI spokersmen says "Fine, you win, we surrender"
💀💀💀
The beast image given a voice to speak
1:40 Three-to-one? Didn't Ukraine mobilize a million-man army or something? (Yes, they took many casualties, but I thought those were replaced by conscription.)
This is Ukrainian propaganda - Russia since the start of the war fought against Ukraine not in full capability, using limited force of volunteers among contractors of ~150 thousand men, without mobilization, while Ukraine already had army of 200 thousand men before the war and Ukraine started to mobilize already since the first day of war. This happened because Putin wants to hold the power and he didn't wanted to anger Russian people with mobilization, so Putin thought that he will end the war in 2-3 weeks by forcing Ukraine to negotiations and Russian peace terms, or even captuting Kyiv and establishing puppet regime. But Putin's plans failed - during the negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, Russia was tricked. Russia was ready to leave all captured territories and pull back to pre-war borders, in exchange of Ukraine's neutral and non-NATO status. Ukraine asked Russia to give a signal that Russia is ready to respect terms, and Russia withdrew forces from Northern Ukraine and Kyiv, and after this happened Ukraine leaved negotiations.
In the start of thr war Russia fought with quality, while Ukraine fought with quantity. Russia have total superiority in artillery, artillery is a god of war and causes 80-90% of all casualities in war. Also, in the start of the war Russia fought with volunteers among professional contract troops, while Ukrainians were defending with everything they had, including uncapable and untrained young conscripts and mobilized troops. So, in the start of the war, in first few months of war, Russia fought with quality, while Ukraine fought with quantity, and Russian offensive have stuck in Ukrainian numerical superiority more and more as Ukraine was mobilizing more men. In september 2022 there was a significant numerical superiority on Ukrainian side, 2 to 1 in Ukrainian favor, two Ukrainian soldiers for every one Russian, and with huge numerical superiority Ukrainian army made a breakthrough of Russian lines in Kharkiv region. After that Putin had a dilema - Putin wants to stay in power and he don't want to anger Russian people with mobilization, but also he wanted to end the war in 2 weeks, and on 8th month of war Ukrainian army have significant numerical superiority, and Russia will lose the war without mobilization. Putin have chosen to conduct one wave of mobilization, risking losing support from people, and Putin have lost his reputation and support of Russian people, I can say it as Russian citizen. Mobilization saved Russian lines from collapsing, and Ukrainian offensive was stopped, but mobilization have ended, and Russian army didn't received numerical superiority - both armies were just equalized, and since then for 1.5 year there was no more mobilization in Russia. So, at now, at may of 2024, there are nearly 450 thousand Russian troops, mostly volunteer, and nearly 600 thousand Ukrainian, Ukraine is constantly mobilizing, but Ukrainian casualities are higher because of Russian artillery superiority. Also, Russian army have adapted and received huge experience, changed tactics, Russia started massive production of drones and electronic warfare. Electronic warfare makes drones and famous American GPS artillery shells for 777 hotwitzer useless and inaccurate, and also Russia modernized aviation, making the same that USA during after Vietnam war - Russian jets were armed with laser navigated bombs. Ukraine on the other hand after two years of war of attrition have problems with arming newly mobilized troops, Zelensky needs half a million more men and he don't have equipment for them. This all makes the picture clear - Russian advances will loosen Ukrainian defense more and more, and if it will continue for few months more, there are a risk of total collapse of Ukrainian lines
never been this early to a Vologda vid. Nice.
i love how the comment turned into sad ukrainians in denial
Ikr
Ikr, especially when you click "newest first"
how is my comment ALREADY gaining likes and replies l-
When I saw the thumbnail: OH SH*T, NOT GOOD!!!
OH YES, VERY GOOD!!!
OH SH*T, RUSSIA COOKING FR THIS TIME!!!
LET, THEM, COOK 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@jaypolas4136 big mac double cheese no hmm triple cheese with an extra patty on top so i can put my Burger King whopper on it and unhinge my jaw
@@pollpollson3646 could I get a McOhio?
Glory to urina🎉
Ruzzia?
AI generated black women speaks for the Ukraine LOL
Ah yes, more towns I can't pronounce
What happened to the counteroffensive? I thought we were supposed to be raising pride flags in Moscow by now and having a military tribunal for Putin and Lukashenko. What happened?
apparently attacking a country with a population almost five times larger than yours isn’t that great of an idea
russian bot
@@showman9619 now everyone is a russian bot???
turns out life isn't star wars
@@valdomirsoup3683 true everyone who doesn’t believe the delusional press and Zelenskyy at face value is a Russian bot
AI spokerswoman
💀
They need some avatars of color.
You did well Ukraine😢
You managed to hold on that front for 1 year
The fact that they are still going, holding up the Russians for 2 years is crazy! (even though they it’s not looking good for them right now)
@@AmericaYT1 it’s good to hear they are still resisting
You mean 10 Years
@@christiandauz3742 on full scale sense, 2 years
This Millenium Dawn Gameplay is the best one ever
10/10 would eat a nuclear bomb for it to go live
Ukraine: "we're fighting for our country!"
*cancels elections*
*expands conscription*
*ends consular services for men abroad*
*enacts martial law and suspends human rights*
you mispelled "Russia"
How does any of that make them not fighting for their country? hell, nearly single one of those are normal for literally every nation at war besides cancelling the election, which is in the Ukranian constitution and not a decision made by Zelenskyy.
Try harder Zigger.
@@Occam601you misspelled "misspelled"
Aka things not to dissimilar to western nations during times of total war/crisis
Liberal democracy is a sham and overrated, the west needs serious social and economic reform
@@Occam601 no no, he meant Ukraine. I guess you can't read
I don't want this to be the demise of Ukraine...
an yes. the beacon of democracy and western ideals that is ukraine finally suspends human rights officially (only temporarily of course)
Nothing is so permanent as a temporary solution
It’s obviously a fear mongering tactic to get the west to step in more
Russia never had human rights
@@sadfrog15 and? He was talking about Ukraine
@@sadfrog15 And we also eat children for breakfast and force minorities to work in uranium mines
Meanwhile russian forces are gaining momentum and are advancing while ukraine is busy creating a ai spokesperson... Just wow.
Well compared to what Russia took at the beggining of the war, this isn't exactly "gaining momentum" especially considering Ukraine is at its weakest, I still remember 2022, much like that year, I doubt they'll be able to keep this up for long.
Yeah were all fucked
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Наступление на Харьков в мае навряд ли будет.
"Ukraine announce it will partially suspend its adherence to the European Convention on Human Rights to fully apply martial law"
That's an odd way of admitting you are starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel.
Well, this is looking bad
Wdym?
@@Fudgeking21 France might send troops there, that may cause an escalation, Abrams were moved off the frontline, and Russia is pumping up on their military production to Ukraine, but Ukraine cant hold them off becpuse of the lack of soldiers nor equipment.
@@bbkg1club827 surely it won’t get worst
*good
@@bbkg1club827 bro the war is 3 years old. what escalation are you on about. it's half 2nd world war
ukraine is devoting more elixir for the army, a regular spokesperson needs a little elixir to function, could this be the end of russian clan?
nah they are destroying the defences with thunder spells
@@ryangosling239idk man the ukrainian BK is much higher level and CC keeps getting filled with troops
@@PeebleKitty still its gonna be hard for them to hold after russia used a rage spell on the troops in ocheretyne
Can't wait for the Pax Russica!
Nah no way
Russian “peace”
Wherever Putin rules, there will be no peace. Just countless numbers of people falling out of windows.
What a kleptocratic oligarchy re-annexing its previous core territories before going into demographic decline and getting eaten alive by China. Yeah, that’s the golden age of the Russians, not like they used to govern half of Europe though proxy now they’re just a mascot for brown people to rant about the west. The future belongs to China not Russia. It is almost certain that this century they will lose more than they gain in Ukraine.
it's already in avduuvka and other destroyed cities. you can check it out, russian nationals there are so happy
Что Америка делает с Славянскими народам, разве в 1941-м два народа под одним флагом хотели убивать друг друга?? (Тоже самое можно сказать про Югославию)
В 1941 году УПА Бандеры была.
@@boikovvladimir1463 И УССР
Надеюсь к лету все будет лучше
Fr
Не к лету. До Киева ещё года два, к сожалению
@@artembolshakov3901 you mean moscow?
@@cameroonemperor755you mean none?
@@artembolshakov3901 русский думает что я про россию
it is a dark day for democracy
You mean Jan 6th
Good
Ukraine, why tf do you have an ai spokesperson
ZELENSKANDA FOREVER ! 🙅♂️🙅♂️🙅♂️
Z💪
Obviously you have a profile photo of a l0li
I love bacon big mac whopper eat all day I order 82 then eat them over the course of a week
At this point I'd rather Russia just win quickly instead of both sides dragging the war out causing more casualties
Some people said the same thing about hitler
@@sadfrog15 Germany didn't struggle like hell in any of the countries it invaded (besides the Soviet Union for obvious reasons), Russia has clearly shown it can't sustain any further campaigns for the foreseeable future
@@YooperMapping the same thing happened with the two checan wars
@@sadfrog15and?
@@sadfrog15 Not even remotely the same situation.
“We’re fighting for human rights and democracy!” >pulls out of human rights convention and suspends election
Also what are Ukrainian soldiers doing in Germany?
training?
@@radec5166 oh. Duh
They're fighting a war of national survival after it was invaded not just once but thrice, its future is being fought here, this isn't a game, this is a crisis.
@@dodderythedromedary6890 considering how long the front has been static for, they can make peace at any time
@@goldenfiberwheat238 Why doesn't Russia do the same?
Ai generated spoke representant? Anathema! ukraine is tempting fate more than it already did 🖕
Let this be a lesson to the West - DON'T waste half a trillion dollars over 10 years on a shovel fight
Bro what are you talking about?
Don't bring a leopard to a trench fight
Why is Putin begging North Korea and Iran for weapons? Real lesson here is for Ruskies - don't underestimate your enemy and launch a disorganised ''special operation'' that ends up dragging on for years.
@@colonelarmfeldt8572 according to both pro-western and independent sources, Russia is over producing equipment and is facing the problem of not having enough storage. But you are right, they are advancing with shovels and the power of friendship.
@@Leviathan399 By activating war economy mode, and by begging to North Korea of all nations, yes, they are producing more artillery shells now. The deceased Wagner recruits don't need their shovels anymore anyway.
I don’t like this Syrnsky guy. They should bring back someone competent like Zaluzhny.
*And replace Zelenskyy, he’s getting increasingly more incompetent.
You know what is funnier? Syrskiy learned in Moscow military academy and he is Russian
Die einfachen Bürger aus Europa unterstützen Russland! 🇩🇪🤝🏼🇷🇺❤️
Grüße aus Russland! Wir haben die deutsche Kultur schon immer geliebt. Mögen unsere Bindungen stark sein! 🇷🇺❤️🇩🇪
(Entschuldigung für die Fehler, ich habe erst vor kurzem angefangen, Deutsch zu lernen)
Grüße aus Russland! Wir haben die deutsche Kultur schon immer geliebt. Mögen unsere Bindungen stark sein! 🇷🇺❤️🇩🇪
(Entschuldigung für die Fehler, ich habe erst vor kurzem angefangen, Deutsch zu lernen)
1:53 ukraine is cooked bro what are they doing with ai 💀🙏
I think the Ukraine was will ether end this year or next year…
Doubt that.
Ukraine is so done
Oh and ww3 is possible because Macrons ego is hurt rn
Лучше уж вымерание человечества чем жизнь в мире где нацисты воюют с выдуманными нацистами
russian bot
likely a pr stunt for the coming european elections
@@showman9619 cia bot
@@showman9619"Someone doesn't have the same opinion as me, impossible, must be a bot"
free ukraine and free palestine !
Israel supports Ukraine🤡🤦♂️
🇨🇵🇷🇺❤
No point in continuing the war anymore. If the West cares so much for Ukraine, they should let them negotiate a peace treaty with Russia. After Russia gets all the territories it wants (Donbass and possibly other occupied territories), the west can help rebuild Ukraine to become stable again.
they suggested already, declined
most recent project of peace by russia mentions creation of a "new" government of ukraine and trial of ukrainian military leadership. no one is going to accept this
Putin doesn't do peace.
@@sh-le6fb true that the recent Ukraine regime won't give up its positions and simultaneously be judged for what they have done
There won't be peace anytime soon it seems
They can negotiate a peace treaty. But obviously Ukraine has its terms and that includes Russia withdrawing from all the occupied territories.
🇺🇦Slava Ukraine!🇺🇦
Where is Ukraine?
No.
🇷🇺SLAVA RUSSIA!🇷🇺
Slava Ukraine! Ukraine has a right to defend itself!
@@masonandevancovington6104 So does palestine.
I stopped supporting ukraine
Me too bro. But don’t go 100% Full support to Russia, just be like “Well i think Russia is much better than Ukraine and that Russia should have all Russian-majority land in Ukraine. It’s just that Putin has been very unreasonable.” That’s what I’ll have to say about it.
You're both despicable individuals.
2023 spring offensive: Oh hell yeah! Let's win this to end the war once, and for all!
2023 summer offensive: Erm we've delayed it a bit. It will start RIGHT NOW!
2023 fall offensive: This wasn't supposed to happen
2023 winter offensive: At least we took Robotyne
2024 spring offensive: There is no spring offensive
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Macron 🙏
Интересно, откуда вдруг взялось столько англоязычных поддерживающих Путина
Потому что люди видят, что у Украины нет шансов
@@ROTE_BALL да. Думаю из-за этого
@@ROTE_BALLне просто эти англоязычные на самом деле русские
Да и у Украины не было шансов на победу это просто показатель ужасной российской армии в войне с западом она проиграет если не могут взять маленькую страну без промышленности
@@Mitte_Keegiуууууууу везде рука кремля, кремлеботы только комменты пишут😂 ты серьёзно считаешь что весь мир с Украиной?
@@Mitte_Keegi так как у обоих сторон есть свои фабрики троллей и эльфов, утверждать не могу, но это вполне вероятно
useless war
Blame Putin for starting it
Russia launched an offensive in the Kharkiv at 12:00
❤️🇺🇦❤️
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Slava ukraine
Saliva urine
ruzki bad!
I hope Ukraine 🇺🇦 truly prevails it’s looking very bleak right now.
Eventually there will have to be some negotiations happening. This should've been ended a longer time ago.
Very unfortunate loss of lives.
Slava 🇺🇦 Ukraine
Slava Ukraina
Slava Russia🇷🇺🇷🇺
🇷🇺🇷🇺Very good🎉🇷🇺🇷🇺
Cringe ahhh misinformation channel
Denial much
@@redacted7060 😂😂😂
@@redacted7060 I love bots funniest shit
@@user-wk3ru2ry3v you still haven't show any proof on why it's misinformation
Sounds like you're the bot here
@@redacted7060 ooh mister bot wants engagement so he keeps getting paid by his Kremlin daddy’s 😂😂😂 don’t worry I got you
Why would you make a thumbnail of the Russian flag punching Ukraine? Do you have any idea how insensitive that is to Ukrainians who might be watching? Also, loosing record-number troops for a few square kilometers doesn't scream "greatest week". I think you should put more thought into your approach.
please tell me you are just trying to be funny...
That sweet, sweet cringe… since when are there delusional crybabies in this comment section ?
I think that ukranians have far bigger problems than a UA-cam thumbnail
Found the American
"Russia's Greatest week so far", In case you didn't understand that this is not the author's political opinion
I think the AI spokesperson is awesome, some of you are such boomers lol
As much as I don't like Macron, he seems to be the only one who is most coherent. To prevent Russia from completely taking over Ukraine, it is best for NATO to intervene. The West's biggest mistake was not to intervene in 2014. In the West, I don't think Russia wants to do anything else, given that thanks to her, Sweden and Finland joined NATO. Now the other concern is Georgia.
I agree. History has already taught us we won't gain much from appeasement. The west needs to step their game up
You risk Armageddon