Arnold Toynbee Against Henry Kissinger

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  • Опубліковано 18 жов 2024

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  • @Vingul
    @Vingul Рік тому +7

    Cheers, Philo! I had never heard Toynbee speak before, should check out more of those interviews.
    P.S. nice touch of Ralph Vaughan Williams ;)

  • @Apamaru
    @Apamaru Рік тому +6

    Yours is the best channel I've found in a looong time! Excellent content. The old books series has infinite potential. This time I couldn't really understand some of the major the points because I don't get kantianism. I don't get the appeal and I think the thinking that's downstream from Kant is basically always muddled and confused.

  • @loogi_101
    @loogi_101 3 місяці тому +1

    Music: Ralph Vaughan Williams' Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis

    • @jarinorvanto4301
      @jarinorvanto4301 3 місяці тому

      An all too common nuisance with music, disturbing interesting talks and the active listening experience.

  • @YizzTheEunuch
    @YizzTheEunuch Рік тому +2

    Man this is excellent! You're good at this Philos!

  • @yw1971
    @yw1971 Рік тому +2

    You may want to mention Will Durant large project on Civilization. Maybe even more classic. I read through it in my teens.

  • @Zeitaluq
    @Zeitaluq 3 місяці тому

    The excerpt of poem by Andrew Marvell (1621 ~ 1678) is deeply fascinating. This lines are prescient centuries later with layers of meaning. Reminds me of the Seventh Seal another thought provoking insight into human condition.

  • @eldermillennial8330
    @eldermillennial8330 6 місяців тому +1

    His uncle’s indirect influence on the Milner Group (by virtue of having been Milner’s absolute best friend since boyhood) cannot be understated, according to Quigley.

  • @MattieK09
    @MattieK09 21 день тому

    I completely agree after ww2 scholarship takes a radical turn downward

  • @thegreatjohannes
    @thegreatjohannes Рік тому +1

    Wow -- this is the most interesting video I've seen in years.

  • @JordiSarda
    @JordiSarda 11 місяців тому +1

    Really good, truly intresting

  • @SonjaMorrison-i7j
    @SonjaMorrison-i7j 2 місяці тому

    Some people think Kissinger is a war criminal. Toynbee, not so much.

    • @MattieK09
      @MattieK09 21 день тому

      I’m one of those people

  • @Red-Dragon96
    @Red-Dragon96 4 місяці тому

    Good video - you also like good games like Kenshi and Planescape. I am very interested in your opinion of Oswald Spengler - because he has a very unique view of History.

    • @philosmiscellany6186
      @philosmiscellany6186  4 місяці тому +1

      Absolutely, I may do a video on him, or more generally a video on mimesis. Good ear on recognizing the soundtrack! Those games have excellent immersion and PT has great writing

    • @Red-Dragon96
      @Red-Dragon96 4 місяці тому

      @@philosmiscellany6186 Excellent immersion indeed. PT is one of the best games ever. Keep up the good work 👍

  • @73elephants
    @73elephants Рік тому +8

    "Will eventually crumble into dust"? I think it already is doing, and is doing so in part because it abandoned the moral structure it held to over the past several centuries.

    • @richardc861
      @richardc861 9 місяців тому +1

      Does this explain why we feel threatened by China and to some extent Russia. India too in some sense. As a westerner, their societies appear to me socially and cultural strong thought perhaps morally dubious. It is these nations I feel will do well as we progress through the century

  • @Rafael-oi6dj
    @Rafael-oi6dj 2 місяці тому

    Hegel focused on the same thing a century before & in a much more depthness, so much that it was the fundament for Marx's work, "Capital"; bringing Kissinger to the level of this man is an insult to him (T)

  • @marcionphilologos5367
    @marcionphilologos5367 3 місяці тому +1

    Toynbee was a typical Anglo Saxon and Western bourgeois, unable to look critical towards 19th century colonialism, industrialism, militarism, nationalism, causing WW1. The spiritual division between FASCISM and COMMUNISM generated WW2, and after the war the COLD WAR/ KOREAN WAR/ VIETNAM WAR and the rise of the UN. THEN THE US RIGHT-WING NEO-CONS DID TAKE OVER; BELIEVING IN DEMOCRATIC-CAPITALISM, CAUSING THE ISRAELY/ IRAQI/ SYRIAN/ AFGHAN WARS AND THE TOTAL MORAL DECAY OF THE US. CHINA, IN CONTRAST TO THE WEST UNIFIED, GOVERNED BY RATIONAL ADMINSTRATORS, NOT COLONIALIST AND MILITARIST, DID RISE AS THE HUMAN CIVILIZATION OF THE FUTURE....... ALL CIVILIZATIONS HAVE ONE METAPHYSICAL AND RELIGIOUS PURPOSE.

    • @Giridhar5022
      @Giridhar5022 2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you. Above and beyond your articulate details China seems to be following the same arc as that of the West. I'm reminded of George Orwell's line, 'Some people are more equal than others.' The decline in nations seems built-in and all the plans to re-do and reinvent mere bumps in the road towards change and extinction. Toynbee is right that Civilization is only one of several measuring sticks available to us. Another key seems to be Mythology/Religion. Where is the world view that we are one and that we're always morphing? There's a realization that there's this 'oneness' that has flared as Sumerian then French then British then Chinese then Japanese and on and on. (Not in this order of course; just listing some civilizations)