Repertoire: Interesting Overtures (2) Mahler
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Who knew that Mahler wrote an overture? Sort of. The Entr'Acte to his opera in the style of Weber, Die Drei Pintos, is as close as he ever got. Who knew that Mahler wrote an opera? Well, he did, and this delightful orchestral movement deserves to be as popular as his larger works. It's simply delightful.
Musical Example courtesy of Naxos Records
What a delightful work that En’travte is. Many thanks Dave.
It's funny to think about all the controversy about people completing Mahler's 10th while basically he did the same with the work of another composer :-) I don't know how in detail it can be compared, but maybe Mahler is a too much valued composer these days so it is more of a challenging task to touch his work. Or Webern doesn't have that much follower anymore, so nobody complains. Thanks for pointing us to this little gem, it surely sounds like Mahler.
Barber's Overture to The School for Scandal is really fun.
Who cares if it's one composer or the other. The music is delightful. Thankyou for reviving the piece. This overture series is well up my street.
I love Raff's Jubel-Ouverture but then again I'm British. lol
What an interesting treat. I don't profess to know all of Mahler but I love the symphonies I have. Thanks for your introduction to this charming piece. It needs more outings for sure
Way back in it’s early days (late’70s...?), our local St. Louis Opera Theater put on a fully staged production of Die Drei Pintos, and I remember people loving it. The company always made a speciality of at least one of the four productions being extremely rare or unconventional, and eventually - new commissions. I think The NY Times review of the production is still available - my strongest memories are of hearing Faith Esham in the first of several roles, and trying to separate the Mahler from the Weber, which didn’t turn out to be hard at all.
Cheers David I didnt know this 👍
Thanks much, David, for giving this the light of day. One hears a lot of little ditties, both of melody and scoring that rear their heads in his later works.
Dave,thanks for this bonbon of music, amazing item.
That was a great delight. Thank you.
A really interesting overture I've recently been listening to by an excellent but relatively overlooked composer is Hendrik Andriessen's 'Chanticlere'. It has his usual clarity and superb technical adroitness with a nice touch of understated humour.
Heard the Drei Pintos comment in the Mahler v. Bruckner overture, found the Naxos complete recording on streaming, got halfway through, and returned to watch this too. Thanks for answering the question I was wondering ("surely there has to be a better recording than this"). With Popp, Prey, Kurt Moll, the Munich Philharmonic, and Gary Bertini, how has nobody ever reissued that 70s premiere?!? Absolute madness. Surely that production should be a priority for the reissue-fetishizing owners.
A lovely (re)discovery Dave - and IMO a vast improvement on Weber (for whom I fear I have a massive blind spot!). Just thought of another interesting overture - 'Street Corner' by Alan Rawsthorne.
Literally never heard of this. Thank you!
You bet!
I own the “Complete Works of Gustav Mahler” box on EMI and this piece is not there, sNot so complete after all. Thanks for letting us know!
The whole opera should be there.
I doubt my two suggestions fit the parameters of the category. Ralph Vaughn Williams overture to The Wasps is great, but the composer is ubiquitous and the overture is probably popular. Richard Strauss’ overture to Die Schweigsame Frau, might possibly fit. I consider the opera a masterpiece, but I think I am alone in that opinion. Look, I know one when I hear one.
I loved this video. I’ll try to search out a recording of the entire opera if one exists.
I agree with you about the Frau, and the overture is delightful. I was thinking about it.
@@DavesClassicalGuide the Frau is fabulous. Should be produced more frequently.
@@vincentspinelli9995 Agree
@@DavesClassicalGuide Thanks David . That is reassuring. I rely heavily on your opinions and need your guidance.
Dave… perhaps the overtures to The Two Pedagogues, The Uncle from Boston (!), The Wedding of Camacho, The Return from Abroad - stage works by the young Mendelssohn. Treasures, all. Speaking of treasures… the two dances from Silvana on the Weber - Mahler disc are utterly delightful, too.
If an intermezzo counts in this series, I'd like to suggest Sibelius' Intermezzo from the Karelia Suite. I am aware that he wrote an actual Karelia Overture, but before now, I had heard only the three-movement suite. I don't know how popular either version of the music is. The Intermezzo theme is from the overture around 2.5 minutes in, but more fleshed out. It's festive and brings a smile to my face, my favorite tune that Sibelius wrote.
Played the Karelia Suite in a community orchestra many years ago--the 2nd movment is captivating!
Hi David, may I suggest a great overture by Joachim Raff for this series, Dame Kobold, Op. 154? It's a lovely work, and I think a little bit of Raff every now and then is certainly no harm 😀
Thank you. I'll get there.
Weber….Preciosa and Jubilee. Scores and parts available on IMSLP.
Thanks Dave for all your interesting videos. May I suggest an overture for the "guess the composer" department ...Wagner's (Yes, the great Richard) Liebesverbot Ov.
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Holy smokes this is lovely stuff! Maybe I’ll take out a second mortgage so I can bribe my local maestro to perform this. Alternatively, I suppose I could just stream it, but that wouldn’t be nearly as fun, now would it?
Wonderful music, thank you, David! But isn't the the piano quartet the earliest Mahler we know?
I said orchestral music.
There's also the movement for piano quartet
Yes, but I was talking about orchestral music.
@@DavesClassicalGuide I know. My bad. Mentioned it just in case some viewers didn't know.
I was wondering, do you have any plans to talk about the new/reissued Georges Cziffra box?
Actually yes. I'm having such a good time listening to it that I'm not sure when, but I surely will get to it. He was a panic.
This is certainly more Mahler than Weber and not only orchestration-wise. I even hear some Schumann in it, here and there.
I am new to classical music, I bought this album on sale from a second hand sale. Why is this album referred as Mahler's work? Is this not composed by Weber? Why is Mahler's name not in the album. Can someone enlighten me? Much appreciated.
It is by Mahler. He was asked to create an opera based on sketches by the then long-dead Weber. He did not want to write an actual overture, so he created this "between the acts" piece in the style of Weber, but the music is all Mahler.
@@DavesClassicalGuide ah got it. Then they should have put Mahler instead of Weber. 🤣
Dave
off piste to this video do you have an opinion of the Bruckner overture in g? I think it is pretty good but never performed to my knowledge. There is a recording of it with von matacic and the philharmonia on testament.
It's not terrible, but certainly no big deal.
Mahler in the title
let the views roll in...
And why not?
if views were the only reason he'd have done a video about The Beatless such as "...under the influence of Bach and Beethoven".Should attract50/80K views. Or "After Schubert, is Adèle the best lied composer?" That should draw in a crowd of 100K.
@@davidbo8400 I'm on it! Thanks for the suggestion.
@@DavesClassicalGuide Clickbait starter pack. I thought you knew. Thunderhurwitz are go!
@@DavesClassicalGuide sorry, I wasn’t implying that you put Mahler in the title as intentional click-bait, but that this video certainly going to get more views because of Mahler
The scoring is echt Mahler. "Real" Weber doesn't sound nearly this good.
Why all the Weber-bashing in the comments here? I prefer most of his vivacious, tuneful overtures to this Mahler curiosity. But thanks Dave for drawing my attention to this work which I didn’t know existed!
I'm not bashing Weber. It's that the Mahler orchestra sounds better to me than Weber's.