Sad but many adults are being Diagnosised with ADHD and put on Adderal that is very difficult to wean off of. The side effects and withdrawal can be very traumatic. If a person gets a stress leave from work due to traumatic experience the doctors are quick to diagnose and medicated with SSRI or whatever. If they do not go along with Doctors plan then the Insurance company for the company they work either may not give Disability Pay.
In the olden days children did not go to school until they were 7 or 8 years of age. If you wait until a child is developmentslly ready, it will take them less effort to master reading, writing, snd arithmetic. Boys, in particular, need more time. Let them be boys! You can teach them to follow multi-step directions through chores, sports activities, outdoor activities. Get them outdoors hiking, fishing, and adk them questions that require them to carefully observe the world around them.
Ì was homeschooled by loving Christian parents. After being Diagnosed at 9 with ADHD and dyslexia I started a low dose of Adderall I remember that day as the first time I could truly focus. My mother was a qualified teacher. And tried multiple ways to help before this. It was the best thing that happened to me I took it till I finished LPN school then learned to cope in other ways when I stopped. I think it is overdiagnosed however this is my story.
@@melissalarson2569 not true. I have adhd and take dexamfetamin, it helped me tremendously in the beginning! but now I'm nearly 2 years into taking it and its caused me to have extreme facial, vocal and hand tics and extreme dehydration all the time. I understand that it can be a necessary drug but it can have very bad long term effects. this is coming from someone who is still taking it because its SOOO hard to stop.. trust me I've tried
I have a 7 year old daughter with autism and her developmental pediatrician diagnosed her with ADHD at her last visit a couple months ago. Her doctor wanted to prescribe ADHD medication. I told her I wanted to look into other options and try a more natural approach. My daughter’s developmental pediatrician told me that with some kids diagnosed with ADHD benefited from taking fish oil and melatonin. I went home and did a lot of research and I started her on fish oil daily and 1 mg of melatonin at night. I also went a step further and removed all foods that had any colored dye because I started noticing that she would get very impulsive after eating certain foods with dye. Since removing foods with dyes from her diet and giving her fish oil and melatonin she is calm, she can focus. Her speech has improved. She sleeps better and her behaviors that she was having a couple months ago decreased a lot. I can take her into stores and other public places and I don’t have the same anxiety that I had a couple months ago. A couple months ago my daughter would elope and she was very impulsive and her behaviors made it difficult to take her anywhere.
Similar experience. We tried RX for self harm...honestly it made it worse. He was just tired and would choke on his drool and keep trying to self harm. We tried CBD after that and it's helped a ton. As he hit puberty we noticed some shifts in behavior including more ADHD. It got so bad we considered RX but I swore I would try caffeine before I would do that. So we did. Little bit of green tea most mornings has really been a huge help! We just have to make sure he drinks it in thirds because he chugged it before and was high anxiety. But otherwise it's really helped. And yes ruling out most additives and such is important. ❤ We also take an organic B vitamin spray most days. It's low dose so won't do damage to the kidneys....as I find many supplements are too high of dose and will harm kidneys over time with unnecessary waste product.
@11:05 how can we compare? It’s not difficult if you’ve lived with ADHD. When you’re constantly misplacing items. When you do things without remembering that you’ve done them. When you frequently get lost in thought while someone else is speaking. When you struggle to complete things by deadlines that others did not struggle with. When you can’t seem to care about your personal life because you’ve poured all your energy to focusing at work. When you are constantly running behind. And when you have spent YEARS trying to fix those things. It’s very easy for those of us with ADHD to compare. What’s NOT easy though, is to understand what it feels like to those who do not experience it. And for anyone who wants adderall to stop being the only option - you need to first recognize that ADHD is a real condition.
Hand claps all around!!!!! I am reading my own story back to me. Not to mention it causes relational stress with spouses and kids. It's so frustrating to hear stories calling what I go through on a daily basis a "social construct" Really? Because my husband doesn't struggle with these things. He's on electonics/media more than I AM. I wish I could leave the house with less than 3 bags because I'm so terrified I'm going to leave something important behind. In school, I developed a habit of ALWAYS looking at the desk I left because I KNEW I was highly likely to forget something. I loose my phone as soon as I get home. I've lost earbuds, clothes, shoes, documents. Before I got engaged, my husband gave me a 'practice' ring so that I could get used to keeping up with it. 😢 Watching this video, I'm afraid the stigma about what real struggle for a lot of people will just be dismissed.
I will add that the medication is just a tool to help. It's not a perfect solution, but it does help. Without it, I'm all over the place. It puts my brain back in line and helps me finish the task I started instead of running around trying to do 10 things at once.
Yes this! The main thing talked about is “focus” and “forgetfulness” but what about all the other symptoms I face that are even more frustrating such as RSD, high emotionality, executive dysfunction and so much more. Once I started I most likely have ADHD and started researching and medicating for it, MY WHOLE LIFE made sense. Not just “being forgetful” but sooo many other issues I’ve had I realize are related to ADHD
@@amyjones6110 The other part that's missing here, is a lot of kids are given meds and not given help to understand what is going on, so they can learn how to build structures around them that can help them thrive, adults the same thing. You need structures around you, medication can help you while get those in place, but he in an earlier episode said well this gets tied to identity. Man, if your brain is making you act a certain way, how is that NOT part of your identity? Denying it is to say these things don't exist.
I was on it for well over 10 years. Overall, it was NOT A GOOD 10 YEARS TO SAY THE ABSOLUTE LEAST. I quit when I got saved because I just knew it wasn't right and it was killing me and slowly driving me crazy. Took a good while to recover. Bout a year of doing the bare minimum to get by and lots and lots of prayer. What a transformation God has made in my life over the past year. I encourage anyone reading this to quit the adderalll/vivance/riddlin/kratom whatever is it. You're better off the way God made you and you'll be fine. Better, even.
My youngest child was difficult in every class. I was asked to allow them to test him for ADHD. I told them they could test him, but they needed to know I would never medicate him. I didn't allow him to have sugar of any kind or anything with red food dye. I also asked the teachers not to keep him in at recess as punishment and encouraged them to make him run laps instead. I also worked with him to learn to have self-control. He was also sent to take the test for gifted classes, and that helped by providing more interesting work. It turns out when active boys are bored they cause more disruptions.
More discussion about how to deal with adult ADHD would be very helpful. Either way thank you Allie, for asking him how to help people who deal this these traits. Without this episode, the first episode just seems like invalidating the experience of others.
I agree with you. This interview is heavy on what not to do, but not helpful for those of us that do have to work around our brains as adults. It would be great if she would interview someone who gives practical help like Dr Russell A Barkley.
I listened all the way to the end, hoping I was wrong, but this is only one side of the story. ADHD may be over-diagnosed, and it's definitely mis-named, but we exist, and there are lots of ways to actually help people who are not neuro-typical. I would urge you to interview someone like Dr Russell A Barkley, who actually has a lot of practical advice for neurodiverse brains. I 100% agree that medication is typically not the answer, but that doesn't mean that the answer is just to pretend the questions don't exist.
And what about those who masked all their life? But suffer in silence ? It’s heavy on them and always there is something wrong with them. What made them like this? Just upbringing? Just food? Traumas? …
I was diagnosed with ADHD and Dyslexia when I was in 3rd grade and put on stimulates and got addicted I’m drug free now but it was a long hard road and I’m still dealing with the consequences of my addiction and every sin that goes along with it plz pray for me
I loved your first interview with him so much so that I personally reached out to him. I am a mental health counselor. I agree that ADHD is overdiagnosed and while I’m against medications for it, especially in children, I very much disagree that it doesn’t exist. I would totally agree with him if I hadn’t experienced it as a parent. He obviously has not. My daughter perfectly fits the ADHD diagnosis. I knew something was off since she was age 3. It wasn’t a teacher who pointed it out. In fact, I’m the only one who ever diagnosed her and it took me years to realize it was ADHD. She was never medicated. My next 2 children (boys) were normal. Now my daughter has 3 sons and the oldest has the same issues she did but worse. He is 6. We knew way before school age. It’s absolutely exhausting to raise kids like this and as a counselor, I know their behavior is abnormal. Both of them also had traumatic births and multiple health issues. I think the ADHD is related to their poor health. Some type of mutation or deficiency possibly? But definitely not an issue of too much tech (I wasn’t that kind of parent) or neglect/trauma. It is real. Rather than saying it’s not real, let’s focus on figuring out the root cause and treating that.
I am wondering if adhd has something to do with gut health? I've noticed in my limited world those with adhd are picky eaters? Could the "picky eater" have a gut issue that affects appetite, digestion, and absorption of nutrients essential to brain development?
@kellycase4212 hopefully parents will start pushing these questions - keep pushing these questions. Don't let the dice off the hook. Ask him to research it!
ADHD meds are way over used. My parents did foster care with teens and I saw this first hand. But please don’t disregard that they can improve quality of life for some people including myself. From the time I was a small child I willingly ate very healthy diet because if I was not, I was a complete mental mess. At six years old I happily gave up sugar and other triggering foods because even at that age, I recognized that I could not think or see straight if I ate them. I was able to jump on the trampoline and run around the yard between school subjects because I was homeschooled. I also had limited screens. I actually personally avoided getting a smart phone until my 20’s. All theses things just took the edge off my learning disabilities, sensory and visual processing issues and ADHD symptoms. I still struggled so bad with executive function and focus. It was painful for me to see people who could barely sleep and eat junk could function better than me. The front of my brain would get numb and tingly when I tried to do something mentally challenging. I tried medicine because despite all my other measures I was still struggling. My quality of life has greatly improved. I can do more than one or two mentally challenging things a day now. I am sleeping better and my spacial awareness and sensory processing issues have greatly improved. Social situation are less stressful because my eyes can focus enough to read faces. I could keep going on how my life has improved with no side effects at this time. Stimulants are very powerful drugs that can be miss-used easily, but that does not mean that some people to benefit from them.
That's great to hear that you improved. Have you ever considered seeing a developmental optometrist or vision therapist? ADHD and eye tracking problems are linked.
@@bertaschmetterling I have not met with an official therapist for this, but I am aware of some of these techniques do my best to practice them as best I can on my own. The medicine makes it much easier to do the exercises. It felt like there was a missing a link with controlling my eyes before the medicine.
Tons of info out there about adults treating it with dietary changes like a ketogenic diet or getting more nutrients from organ meats, eliminating seed oils.
I just posted a long comment about this that got deleted but my experience is exactly this. Diagnosed at 21, stopped medication at 30 by going ketogenic/carnivore, stopping wheat and dairy, no food dyes, no emulsifiers, and seed oils. High fat, low carb.
Thank you for this, I'm going to look into these options. As an adult that has had my last two counselors recommend I go on something for my ADHD I am eager to find different routes and to continue to avoid taking medication.
@@amanda3084 No problem. For what it's worth, I worked in pharmaceuticals for a decade. I used to be on a few meds for metabloic stuff. Not anymore after diet change and I'd never recommend drugs for ADHD. Its junk science and even one of my friends got so addicted to adderal they died from it.
In third grade I got the ADHD diagnosis and was started on Ritalin. Eventually I was switched to Adderall. I HATED BOTH of them. They made me feel like I was vibrating, and vaguely out of my body. It killed my joy, my drive for food. It basically nullified my personality. I vowed that I would NEVER do this for my children. I have taken a different path. Looking for a root cause to symptomology. So far, so good.
Brain fog can be a nutritional deficiency like Iron or ferritin. Many doctors don't like to treat nutritional deficiencies. They go by what is normal but most people are nutrient deficient because of what they do to our food. 😅
Oh I agree! I’m pregnant and just diagnosed anemic and I can definitely see a difference between my pre pregnancy regular iron stores and my now depleted iron stores. I could barely function two weeks ago before I started a supplement!
Allie, thank you for these two episodes with Dr. Roger McFillin! I am so happy that someone with knowledge and experience has come to reveal the truth about all the diagnosis of children's behaviour and how quickly they are pushed into taking medication they really don't need for the majority of cases!! As a former teacher, who had to closely work with chldren that had behavioural problems, I have learnt that the environment they grow in and/or parents's ways to bringing them up are root to most of the children behavioural problem, that can be corrected but need a different approach. I loved how "common sense" was mentioned too, something that is not very abundant. Dependence on medications is a devil's chain that seems to begin in the belief of lies we are told, that is why I love working with teenagers and children, because they ask questions to understand the world, to find the truth and we, as adults have the moral obligation and duty before God, to teach them truth. I never hear about Dr. Roger McFiller but i am praying the youtube channel gets back and running to spread truth that need be told. Actually, the fact that the yt channel has been "closed"... the more the reason to listen to Dr. Roger and do our research, be independent thinkers using wisdom and common sense! God bless you!!
Yeh that would be classic dunning-krueger there. The problem is this isn't black and white. YES there are many people (adults and children) who may be diagnosed with ADHD, put on meds and/or CBT, but may be wrongly diagnosed. There are for more who actually do have ADHD and do not realize there is hope or help, and so don't show up in front of a Doctor for diagnosis. Overgeneralizing this as "ALL ADHD diagnosis are wrong" Is just as bad as saying "ALL ADHD diagnosis are right". Every person has unique genetics, and biochemistry to a degree, but the way people use his statements to be dismissive of people who have actual problems, is stigmatizing and hurting these people that need compassion, time, and understanding.
4:20 - Yes and amen!!! We foster and I fought tooth and nail with teachers (luckily Dr was on my side) that this boy does not have ADHD!! This is a trauma response!! Anytime he has to do something new and he is unsure about it or a little nervous, he responds with ADHD like symptoms, but I definitely noticed it really quickly that once he felt comfortable and safe in our house, those symptoms vanished! He is perfectly capable of learning without medication and he is SO SMART!!!! Praise God, we are off meds now and he is THRIVING!! We’re anxiously awaiting a court date for adoption ❤️
Kids need to be active. This is so true. Forgive me for not remembering exact details about this, but... I saw a video a while ago about kindergarden in Japan I believe. 🤔 It was the coolest thing I have ever seen. Learning through activity, as well as activity without learning. Activity that expends excess energy. 👍 A brilliant concept indeed. And very successful if I remember correctly. 🤔 Look around... 👀 We've all got a lot to offer each other. The Power BELONGS to We the People. 👊 🇺🇲🇨🇦🇬🇧🇮🇱
I can believe that the Japanese study that way. And learn. I had Japanese students in my ESL class, and they were taught to do advanced math, including calculus on an abacus. So very tactile.
I'm concerned that some viewers of this are going to get the wrong idea of what ADHD is and isn't and extend the stigma even more. Do some research and listen to many angles. This doesnt just effect kids. Adult ADHD is very real. It impares relationship, jobs, money and habits. Many adults with ADHD have a history or overspending, divorce, drug abuse, depression, etc when they dont seek help to deal with their executive function impairment. We deal with being labeled as lazy and unreasonable just for how different we are. There are many tools to manage ADHD symptoms like CBT, non stimulant medication, hypnosis that can all be used in conjunction with medication. Including slow release medication that does not have the "high" of amphetamines. But these things werent mentioned as options from this Dr. If someone in your life is struggling with things that the world labels as normal, dont dismiss it. Also, i cant consign to it being caused just by trauma or abuse. I was raised in a very loving Christian home. My mom cooked most of our meals and i was only allowed to have a soda about once a week as a kid. I wasnt hyperactive and made good grades, but remebering to grab my lunch box or waiting until the last moment to tell my mom that i needed something for school the next day at 9 pm the night before was pretty common.
Yes, the idea that ADHD isn't real is misleading. It's mislabled and misunderstood, but that brain difference exists, and it should be helped, not just stigmatized.
@@Momofukudoodoowindu I keep seeing commercials all over for the lawsuits. It makes sense. Autism hasn't been around for that long. It would be interesting to trace it back to when Tylenol was brought to the public.
Our oldest son was first diagnosed with ADHD when he was 6 years old. The diagnostic process started when he was in kindergarten. I wouldn't say that was easy. Meanwhile, we and his teacher were working hard to help him learn. He was diagnosed halfway through first grade. We opted for medication . He started the medication and he became available for learning ! Along with it, there were modifications to his learning experience , a separate room , etc, etc. He was also diagnosed with an anxiety disorder. Eventually, the recommendation made to his psychiatrist read like a short version of the diagnostic criteria for what we now call high functioning Autism. The school psychologist suggested to us that we read up on Aspergers syndrome ( this was in the late 90s). I did, and it was like reading about my son! The doctor, however, refused to change his diagnosies . We ended up moving to another state. The first time he saw his new psychiatrist, he was diagnosed with ( at that time) Aspergers. What a relief! A teacher told us this was good news because educational interventions for this kind of disorder are different from those for ADHD. We also have a daughter who is on the spectrum.She was first diagnosed with Pervasise Developmental Disorder when she was in preschool . PDD was just another way of saying Autism Apectrum Disorder. ADHD and these other neurological disorders may be over diagnosed , but they are real. They are often treated with the same drugs and others. I remember the day that I was sure that there was more to my son's problems than just inattention and hyperactivity. He was about 8 or 9, and I was watching him play outside. I was inside watching him through the window. He didn't know I was watching. It just struck me how different he was from other boys, in an odd way. I say that with complete acceptance and love. My son will soon be 29. He lives with us. We don't know if he'll ever live completely on his own. He's very bright, though he has learning disabilities. He gets by on his strengths. He is hugely creative and can do amazing things with puppet building and performance. He builds many of his puppets and sells some of them. He makes videos and edits them on his Apple. He does computer animation, too. He still has to take several different medications. He has never become an "addict." His sister also takes medication, though not ADHD meds. They have never helped her. With all this, I mean to say that every person is different. We also know it is genetic. You can observe these traits in yourself and other family members. Why were they not diagnosed? I can think of several reasons. Maybe some had some of the traits, but they weren't unmanageable . Many had ADHD but were made to feel like they were just bad children. I also believe there are more cases with more severity because, as Ken Ham from AiG would explain , our world is becoming more and more corrupted by the sin curse. The world is not getting better, not evolving, it is and we are becoming more degraded . Right down to our DNA. ~ Heather ~
I also was involve in the public schools ..the Special Ed Admin took the meds and advocated them.. I'm so in agreement with children being who they are and getting to run and paly until they are worn out tired...and less screen time craziness....and adults parents seeing our children as gifts and not an inconvenience ...oh my so much to be said for common sense and simplicity and for what matters most. Thank you for speaking out ..May some parents who don't understand or know listen and hear...! The children are so important to The Lord. They aren't objects or possessions or pets...They are His,
Keep in mind, there are non-stimulant ADHD medication options. My 2nd grade son started a low dose of strattera a few weeks ago, and it’s been a game changer. I am a licensed mental health professional. We have safety and structure in our home. He is very active in multiple sports. He attends a wonderful Christian school. Yet his hyperactive and impulsive behavior (likely a combination of genetic and having been born 6 weeks premature) is so intense (and sometimes plain dangerous), that he needs just a little boost of norepinephrine in his brain to make his own behaviors manageable for him. He is relieved to be on it, and has had no negative side effects.
I appreciate that you pointed out that childhood trauma can mimic ADHD. I adopted siblings who had experienced trauma. The 2 older ones have multiple diagnoses. Luckily, some professional along the way pointed out to me that their attention problems was not true ADHD but rather hypervigilance. Neither of them was able to finish high school. My oldest couldn't even sit still long enough to complete the pre-assessment for an online GED program! There was only one time when a doctor prescribed medication for my son's attention issues, but when I found out it was a controlled substance, I said no way!
I know I'm way late on this episode, but I just wanted to chime in as well. I had such a hard time focusing on anything when in elementary school to the point to where my mom set up an Individual Education Plan so I didn't have to take timed tests within the time allotted for them. As I got older, I discovered a love of music and that really helped me out a lot because I was able to use it like white noise and it alloted me to focus on my homework and that was one of the many areas I struggled in. I still use music - and also podcasts - now more than 20 years later in the same way. I honestly do believe that I have some kind of attention deficit issue, but I am so glad my parents never took me anywhere to be treated or diagnosed because I learned how I learn and focus best by going through the struggle of not being able to focus when in school. If any of my future kids have an issue like I did, I defibrillator won't be putting them on any kind of meds because they are so harmful and can cause so many issues
I thought this part 2 to better capture real concerns in this disease area. Roger brought up a good point about ruling out other disease. DSM clearly states ADHD has to be diagnosed ONLY after all other mental disorders have been ruled out. That is currently not going on in the community, where they often prescribe stimulants first and ask questions later.
I was pushed by the school to put my daughter on meds when she was about 9. I tried it out for about 6 months and it didn’t seem to make much of a difference so I took her off. A few years later she was still struggling in school and I thought about trying it again. Well I was in bed thinking about it the radio my husband left on got a little louder and a program came on talking about the negative side effects of the medication. I took that as a sign from God not to put her on it. We had to help her find other ways to get through school.
I was on it briefly for about 2 years maybe 3. I quit taking it when I got pregnant with my second child. I miscarried my first. My hubby didn't want me going back on it and I'm not all that bothered being without it. I would only take it when I felt like I needed it
My 6 roommates in college swore by adderal to focus. It was not my thing to try something like that but one time I needed an entire day to get a ton of work done. I took one and it did absolutely nothing for me lol
I would love to listen to this the whole way through, but I keep getting distracted… But seriously being 5 months pregnant I’m off the meds and it makes me realize how good my life was when I was on them. My marriage and friendships were all better. I went through my whole childhood/ early adulthood resisting medication. I have found them so helpful. I usually agree with what’s shared on Relatable, but I’m not sure with this one.
Ok I was diagnosed with ADHD in first or second grade, put on Ritalin then later Concerta got off of it my sophomore year and been struggling but surviving since. I'm 37 years old now. How do I proceed in this society?
30:10 - "... but I'm going to say that 99.8% of your listening population likely shouldn't have children on stimulant drugs ...". In general I'm sympathetic to that opinion*, but there is a hypocrisy that most listeners may miss: do you as an adult use stimulants? (Think first caffeine, second nicotine.) I myself do take caffeine, but it would probably be better to abstain so to avoid tolerance, so that if and when I really do need a stimulant boost my body will respond well to the drug, used as a drug, as an exception and not as a lifestyle. (*: Full disclosure: for my livelihood I analyze clinical trial data for a drug company interested in making and marketing ADHD drugs.)
Is this man a Christian? I read he studies spirituality, yoga and meditation. I am hard pressed to take everything he says as “gospel” when he may have the main thing in life so wrong.
ADHD a "social construct"? Bull Shi... Perhaps you want to give it a different name, but it's a real thing. I wish I could show you video of my six year old daughter on Wed at her 5-7 year old dance class. There were 11 students there. 10 of which were respectably looking up at their teacher/dance instructor and following instructions (for the most part) and then my daughter rolling around on the floor off in her own world, participating with the group only occasionally. If that is not executive function deficit then what is? Just how much dance do you think she is really going to learn? And it's not that she doesn't want to do it, she just can't!!!! She can't help herself. Doing dance class was her idea, not mine. Last year in kindergarten after one month she was expelled from full-day school. She was simply too disruptive to the class. Too much to handle. She had to have someone hold her hand and walk her EVERY TIME the class transitioned from place to another. She has had and will continue to have additional special ed help, perhaps indefinitely. I'm not pro on putting kids, my kids, on drugs. But to call this condition a "social construct" is VERY disrespectful to those that deal with the condition. It is social blasphemy!
I agree. Adult with adhd, she’s right about like dyes in food, or eating keto ( when you can, it’s so extreme, hard to follow long term), but to dismiss it entirely is wack. I fully understand cuz I was your daughter at one point lol
I went to preschool so when I was in kindergarten doing the exact same work it bored me and I became disruptive but the teachers insisted it was because I had adhd then unfortunately they put me on several different medications and I became a shell of myself I believe it ruined my brain since then Iv been diagnosed with panic disorder cptsd and high functioning autism
I was hoping that this would turn around, but sadly it didn't. My son is 8 and was diagnosed at 4. We were reccomended by 2 psychologist to start him on meds who use meds as a last result because his impulsiveness was so bad. I was hesitant because he was 4. Then we had a week where it was unsafe for him or us. We then started meds and it has literally saved our lives. This past year we tested him again and he tested the highest you can for ADHD even with him on meds. He was also found out to have a mood disorder. If he doesn’t have ADHD meds, he cannot function in life at all! So, I don’t agree with this doctor unless he is briefly referring to my son as the 1%. I found out as an adult I have ADD/ADHD. Sure, I made it through school fine. I had to be off meds for a while and ended up taking anxiety meds in place of it. So i find it contradictory for him to go on how anxiety and depression is real, but not ADHD. I'm able to actually process issues better on meds this way. I am also on a non-stimulant, which he didn't address.
All the people offended that he is saying ADHD isn't real are totally missing what he said - ADHD is not an actual discrete diagnosis. The symptoms of ADHD are real - trouble concentrating, hyperactivity, etc. - but they are caused by something. Find the underlying cause and see if it's fixable (like through diet). Learn to view hyperactivity and other "symptoms" as strengths that can be harnessed for good. Train yourself to improve concentration and focus.
Yes! I was able to get diagnosed and help BECAUSE my parents understood and advocated for me. They knew I wasn't dumb or lazy, but needed skills and tools.
Adderall is literally methamphetamine without the "meth". The two are virtually the same thing. It's just a cleaner version of meth. I'm not proud of it but I've done both and I know. It's the same thing and NO ONE "needs" to be prescribed amphetamines for any reason. Also, when you look at the prescription bottle of someone who has generic Adderall, it just says, "Amphetamine". Look it up. Also just about every person I've ever known that got hooked on methamphetamine as an adult was prescribed Adderall as a child. 🤔 Correlation? People just seem to want to believe that the two are completely different because of all the stigma around meth and doctors want to justify prescribing it so they try to ensure parents that they're two totally different things. It's the same thing with heroin and prescription opiates and doctors prescribing methadone and suboxone. They're all narcotics and they all provide the same euphoric effects that all opioids provide.
@@cypherphoenix2665 you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Watch the scientific explanation of their molecular structures in the link I shared above. They're almost identical. If you don't believe that chemist, just Google search the molecular difference between amphetamine and methamphetamine. Although, I don't see why it's so hard to believe. It's in the name.
In this interview, "Do Stimulants Affect People with ADHD differently from people without ADHD?" Dr. Joanna Moncrieff explains how ADHD drugs work and whether they are worth the long term risks of taking stimulants. ua-cam.com/video/4jEsD40FVmc/v-deo.html
Just need to comment on the iPad I work in before and after school care in Australia I noticed the addiction with iPad with these children as it distracts and wanted the iPad all the time we had a couple in the service when they were taken away the children. Were asking for the computer technology that the educators used for their working it was challenging
I know someone who already believes her 1 1/2 year old has ADHD… maybe he has ADHD or maybe he’s just a toddler who’s full of energy, life, and curiosity! Why are we so quick to slap on a label??? He’s only one year old!
It is an unfortunate reality that yeah a lot of people get misdiagnosed with ADHD, but there are probably far more that never seek understanding of who they are and have ADHD because of these conversations. The reality is, that too many are treating this as a false choice, either its meds or no meds to help with ADHD, Either its the way schools are structured or its just how your child was born, it can be both!
What ever you do don’t put your child on stimulants plz I got addicted and eventually graduated to meth it ruined my life and I’m still stuffering the consequences
These pharmaceuticals were used in WW3. I meant WW2… the allied forces gave their troops Amphetamine sulfate while the Nazi forces were in the Meth and couldn’t sleep. Amphetamine sulfate allowed the Allied troops to sleep.
But we did have that. People did show up on time and worked harder then today. Everyone seems to be medicated, yet the work force is far worse today then 30 years ago..Kids are out of control, hateful and angry. Dusrespectful and not able to handle stress. All of tnis with them on meds. Hmmmm
Did you seriously just insinuate that everyone is crazy and all we need to fix ourselves is a better mindset? 24:10 Please stop giving this guy a platform. To anyone out there who if feeling guilted and shamed for your struggle by this man, please know that he is twisting the truth. He gives just enough truth to sound believable and then he presents his theories as a natural conclusion. It is so unfair and not helpful. Please do your own research. This series has been little more than click-bait.
If you are going to argue that adhd is a social construct without an underlying biological reality, please interact with the studies that show otherwise. Multiple studies of brain scans of children with ADHD have shown the prefrontal cortex is smaller than the unaffected test group. This doesn't prove it as fact, but is more than enough evidence to remove the misconception of adhd being a social construct. I really wish conservatives would stop throwing the baby out with the bath water when it comes to ADHD. Stimulants are over-prescribed and many are receiving very little behavioral therapy AND ADHD is real. Both are true and it is ok to have nuance every once in awhile. Please see the pushback as a chance to reconsider some of the info he's given you. This isn't simply "hitting a nerve" because people have identity issues. It's just bad Information.
@@gandalftheblack4 There's a lot more science on ADHD and brain chemistry. ADHD could almost be summed up as a short-term memory problem. It's not something you can choose to just not have by having a positive mindset.
St.Paul to King Agrippa on the purpose of this gospel : " to open their eyes that they may turn from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God. That they may Receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are Sanctified by Faith in God." Acts 26:18
If it’s anything other than the Nazi’s inventing it, or the Japanese, not sure who exactly was first. Both though gave it out to their soldiers, all the kamikaze pilots were given huge doses before their suicide airplane runs.
This episode failed to address adult ADHD, inattentive ADHD, non-medication solutions, it presented this as fact, with no citation other than opinion. I think this and the previous episode, failed to treat this issue with dignity and respect to those who struggle with it. It did present some good advice but not much. I would expect better from this podcast.
Maybe you would want to listen to episodes of his podcast. I’m sure he gives sources there. It’s pretty evident he knows the research that’s available.
The sources I've researched say ADHD, either adult or pediatric, can be mitigated by diet and vitamins, which is what this guest said. A lot of mental health issues can actually be resolved this way, the only issue is finding a doctor who would be willing to prefer to look into the simpler, cheaper fix of adjusting diet and even lifestyle rather than leap to prescribing expensive drugs the medical community still doesn't understand. I'm not saying these serious issues don't exist, but it seems deficiencies do a great job of mimicking these serious problems and many doctors don't care to get to the real cause and identification of their patients' problems.
I suffer with adult ADHD but I have overcome the need for medication through Christ. I fasted for three days because God pushed me to do so. Ever since then I have completely given up Adderall and Vyvanse. I feel like a new person. Yes I suffer still with the symptoms but I count them as a blessing. Jesus suffered more than we could ever imagine. So we can learn to suffer without ADHD meds. I would suggest you go into deep prayer and try fasting. I pray you get the help you need through Christ Jesus. It was really hard for me at first. I was having manic episodes but God carried me through it. I promise he will do the same for you. I am so proud of myself and God gets all the real glory. God bless.❤
Listening and loving the podcast, but Ali hoping to hear you call him out on that evolution stuff. At least remind him that it is a THEORY of evolution.
I really enjoy this and I'm sure he knows what he's talking about, but it's just so upsetting and angering to me how many intelligent and reasonable people believe in evolution and base their world view off of it. Smh. I'm sure you agree Allie.
Yes it is over diagnosed but it is real and the proper meds are very beneficial. Also i believe the diagnosis should include nutrition neurologist and maybe but not nessarily a psychological assessment be in order. What is more concerning to me is the ssri meds these doctors hand out like candy to children and adults alike. They just came out with a study that these meds are poison. Please do a deep dive into that.
Lot of ignorance here Allie, you are using minorities and one offs, exceptions to the rule and you compare yourself with the entire population which is irrelevant. Its not a case of "well I had a focus issue and got over it so that means anyone can" Every case is different, literally every case & each should have a tailored & thorough evaluation by a psychiatrist and only a psychiatrist.
@@allieoneal2033Yes, unfortunately some of those who call themselves devout Christians, have difficulty understanding that mental illness or related issues even exist, let alone can be successfully treated or managed by medical and allied health professionals. It appears to be more prevalent in the more conservative or fundamentalist circles. The answer for them is never medical, it's prayer, it's changing your attitude, "growing up" or strengthening your spiritual walk etc. There is a distinct irony in the fact they are fearful of the medically intangible, we can't "see" mental illness the way we can see most physical manifestations of a disease yet they worship, respect, "follow", obey and prioritise something completely intangible.
@@sharonhoward884 it's frustrating because it doesn't have to be one or the other. For example, I find that starting my morning with God often means I have a measure of better focus that day. I think that there can be a spiritual component. However, this kind of thing absolutely can't just be blamed on a spiritual or moral failing. Yes, kids who spend more time outdoors have better outcomes, but unlike this man claims, that's not a cure.
I feel like this guest is one of those people who prey on desperate people who need help but have low trust in institutions. I'm sure he has programs and supplements he makes money on, but he accuses the drug companies of the same thing. ADHD diagnoses have been around a long time... before smart phones and iPads. That can't be the entire reason.
As a former teacher I would add ⭐Get your children out of government schools if at all possible!! ⭐ 28:58
Sad but many adults are being
Diagnosised with ADHD and put on Adderal that is very difficult to wean off of. The side effects and withdrawal can be very traumatic.
If a person gets a stress leave from work due to traumatic experience the doctors are quick to diagnose and medicated with SSRI or whatever. If they do not go along with Doctors plan then the Insurance company for the company they work either may not give Disability Pay.
If people trauma dump on doctors or counselors they will be medicated.
Seriously ❤ Thank you
🌈🙏 homeschool is one of the best moves I've ever made as a parent.
In the olden days children did not go to school until they were 7 or 8 years of age. If you wait until a child is developmentslly ready, it will take them less effort to master reading, writing, snd arithmetic. Boys, in particular, need more time. Let them be boys! You can teach them to follow multi-step directions through chores, sports activities, outdoor activities. Get them outdoors hiking, fishing, and adk them questions that require them to carefully observe the world around them.
Yes 100% agree!
Ì was homeschooled by loving Christian parents. After being Diagnosed at 9 with ADHD and dyslexia I started a low dose of Adderall I remember that day as the first time I could truly focus. My mother was a qualified teacher. And tried multiple ways to help before this. It was the best thing that happened to me I took it till I finished LPN school then learned to cope in other ways when I stopped. I think it is overdiagnosed however this is my story.
It 100% does help people with real ADHD. It's the people taking it to get high of off that I'd destroying its name.
@@melissalarson2569 not true. I have adhd and take dexamfetamin, it helped me tremendously in the beginning! but now I'm nearly 2 years into taking it and its caused me to have extreme facial, vocal and hand tics and extreme dehydration all the time. I understand that it can be a necessary drug but it can have very bad long term effects. this is coming from someone who is still taking it because its SOOO hard to stop.. trust me I've tried
I have a 7 year old daughter with autism and her developmental pediatrician diagnosed her with ADHD at her last visit a couple months ago. Her doctor wanted to prescribe ADHD medication. I told her I wanted to look into other options and try a more natural approach. My daughter’s developmental pediatrician told me that with some kids diagnosed with ADHD benefited from taking fish oil and melatonin. I went home and did a lot of research and I started her on fish oil daily and 1 mg of melatonin at night. I also went a step further and removed all foods that had any colored dye because I started noticing that she would get very impulsive after eating certain foods with dye. Since removing foods with dyes from her diet and giving her fish oil and melatonin she is calm, she can focus. Her speech has improved. She sleeps better and her behaviors that she was having a couple months ago decreased a lot. I can take her into stores and other public places and I don’t have the same anxiety that I had a couple months ago. A couple months ago my daughter would elope and she was very impulsive and her behaviors made it difficult to take her anywhere.
Similar experience. We tried RX for self harm...honestly it made it worse. He was just tired and would choke on his drool and keep trying to self harm. We tried CBD after that and it's helped a ton. As he hit puberty we noticed some shifts in behavior including more ADHD. It got so bad we considered RX but I swore I would try caffeine before I would do that. So we did. Little bit of green tea most mornings has really been a huge help! We just have to make sure he drinks it in thirds because he chugged it before and was high anxiety. But otherwise it's really helped. And yes ruling out most additives and such is important. ❤ We also take an organic B vitamin spray most days. It's low dose so won't do damage to the kidneys....as I find many supplements are too high of dose and will harm kidneys over time with unnecessary waste product.
@11:05 how can we compare? It’s not difficult if you’ve lived with ADHD. When you’re constantly misplacing items. When you do things without remembering that you’ve done them. When you frequently get lost in thought while someone else is speaking. When you struggle to complete things by deadlines that others did not struggle with. When you can’t seem to care about your personal life because you’ve poured all your energy to focusing at work. When you are constantly running behind. And when you have spent YEARS trying to fix those things. It’s very easy for those of us with ADHD to compare. What’s NOT easy though, is to understand what it feels like to those who do not experience it. And for anyone who wants adderall to stop being the only option - you need to first recognize that ADHD is a real condition.
Hand claps all around!!!!! I am reading my own story back to me. Not to mention it causes relational stress with spouses and kids. It's so frustrating to hear stories calling what I go through on a daily basis a "social construct" Really? Because my husband doesn't struggle with these things. He's on electonics/media more than I AM. I wish I could leave the house with less than 3 bags because I'm so terrified I'm going to leave something important behind. In school, I developed a habit of ALWAYS looking at the desk I left because I KNEW I was highly likely to forget something. I loose my phone as soon as I get home. I've lost earbuds, clothes, shoes, documents. Before I got engaged, my husband gave me a 'practice' ring so that I could get used to keeping up with it. 😢
Watching this video, I'm afraid the stigma about what real struggle for a lot of people will just be dismissed.
I will add that the medication is just a tool to help. It's not a perfect solution, but it does help. Without it, I'm all over the place. It puts my brain back in line and helps me finish the task I started instead of running around trying to do 10 things at once.
Yes this! The main thing talked about is “focus” and “forgetfulness” but what about all the other symptoms I face that are even more frustrating such as RSD, high emotionality, executive dysfunction and so much more. Once I started I most likely have ADHD and started researching and medicating for it, MY WHOLE LIFE made sense. Not just “being forgetful” but sooo many other issues I’ve had I realize are related to ADHD
@@amyjones6110 The other part that's missing here, is a lot of kids are given meds and not given help to understand what is going on, so they can learn how to build structures around them that can help them thrive, adults the same thing. You need structures around you, medication can help you while get those in place, but he in an earlier episode said well this gets tied to identity. Man, if your brain is making you act a certain way, how is that NOT part of your identity? Denying it is to say these things don't exist.
Thank you 🙏🏼🙏🏼
I was on it for well over 10 years. Overall, it was NOT A GOOD 10 YEARS TO SAY THE ABSOLUTE LEAST. I quit when I got saved because I just knew it wasn't right and it was killing me and slowly driving me crazy. Took a good while to recover. Bout a year of doing the bare minimum to get by and lots and lots of prayer. What a transformation God has made in my life over the past year. I encourage anyone reading this to quit the adderalll/vivance/riddlin/kratom whatever is it. You're better off the way God made you and you'll be fine. Better, even.
My youngest child was difficult in every class. I was asked to allow them to test him for ADHD. I told them they could test him, but they needed to know I would never medicate him. I didn't allow him to have sugar of any kind or anything with red food dye. I also asked the teachers not to keep him in at recess as punishment and encouraged them to make him run laps instead. I also worked with him to learn to have self-control. He was also sent to take the test for gifted classes, and that helped by providing more interesting work. It turns out when active boys are bored they cause more disruptions.
More discussion about how to deal with adult ADHD would be very helpful. Either way thank you Allie, for asking him how to help people who deal this these traits. Without this episode, the first episode just seems like invalidating the experience of others.
Diet ! ( and I know this can be a challenge ) No red dye ! ( illegal in Europe) .
Citation please
I agree with you. This interview is heavy on what not to do, but not helpful for those of us that do have to work around our brains as adults. It would be great if she would interview someone who gives practical help like Dr Russell A Barkley.
Check out the book "Finally Focused" by James Greenblatt for great alternative treatment ideas to work with and without medications.
"There's too many to list" @@kellyP.
That doesn't exist. If there are too many, you could list a few.
I listened all the way to the end, hoping I was wrong, but this is only one side of the story. ADHD may be over-diagnosed, and it's definitely mis-named, but we exist, and there are lots of ways to actually help people who are not neuro-typical. I would urge you to interview someone like Dr Russell A Barkley, who actually has a lot of practical advice for neurodiverse brains. I 100% agree that medication is typically not the answer, but that doesn't mean that the answer is just to pretend the questions don't exist.
Couldn't agree more!!
And what about those who masked all their life?
But suffer in silence ?
It’s heavy on them and always there is something wrong with them.
What made them like this?
Just upbringing? Just food? Traumas? …
@@xDiananas such a good point. Masking so often causes anxiety or depression in adulthood.
Agreed. I have ADD and I learned to manage without medication
I was diagnosed with ADHD and Dyslexia when I was in 3rd grade and put on stimulates and got addicted I’m drug free now but it was a long hard road and I’m still dealing with the consequences of my addiction and every sin that goes along with it plz pray for me
I loved your first interview with him so much so that I personally reached out to him. I am a mental health counselor. I agree that ADHD is overdiagnosed and while I’m against medications for it, especially in children, I very much disagree that it doesn’t exist. I would totally agree with him if I hadn’t experienced it as a parent. He obviously has not. My daughter perfectly fits the ADHD diagnosis. I knew something was off since she was age 3. It wasn’t a teacher who pointed it out. In fact, I’m the only one who ever diagnosed her and it took me years to realize it was ADHD. She was never medicated. My next 2 children (boys) were normal. Now my daughter has 3 sons and the oldest has the same issues she did but worse. He is 6. We knew way before school age. It’s absolutely exhausting to raise kids like this and as a counselor, I know their behavior is abnormal. Both of them also had traumatic births and multiple health issues. I think the ADHD is related to their poor health. Some type of mutation or deficiency possibly? But definitely not an issue of too much tech (I wasn’t that kind of parent) or neglect/trauma. It is real. Rather than saying it’s not real, let’s focus on figuring out the root cause and treating that.
I'm glad you posted this.
@@maegenphillips8022 how do you think adhd should be treated
I am wondering if adhd has something to do with gut health? I've noticed in my limited world those with adhd are picky eaters? Could the "picky eater" have a gut issue that affects appetite, digestion, and absorption of nutrients essential to brain development?
@@jillcolvin4196 These are the types of questions we should be asking!
@kellycase4212 hopefully parents will start pushing these questions - keep pushing these questions. Don't let the dice off the hook. Ask him to research it!
ADHD meds are way over used. My parents did foster care with teens and I saw this first hand. But please don’t disregard that they can improve quality of life for some people including myself. From the time I was a small child I willingly ate very healthy diet because if I was not, I was a complete mental mess. At six years old I happily gave up sugar and other triggering foods because even at that age, I recognized that I could not think or see straight if I ate them. I was able to jump on the trampoline and run around the yard between school subjects because I was homeschooled. I also had limited screens. I actually personally avoided getting a smart phone until my 20’s. All theses things just took the edge off my learning disabilities, sensory and visual processing issues and ADHD symptoms. I still struggled so bad with executive function and focus. It was painful for me to see people who could barely sleep and eat junk could function better than me. The front of my brain would get numb and tingly when I tried to do something mentally challenging. I tried medicine because despite all my other measures I was still struggling. My quality of life has greatly improved. I can do more than one or two mentally challenging things a day now. I am sleeping better and my spacial awareness and sensory processing issues have greatly improved. Social situation are less stressful because my eyes can focus enough to read faces. I could keep going on how my life has improved with no side effects at this time. Stimulants are very powerful drugs that can be miss-used easily, but that does not mean that some people to benefit from them.
That's great to hear that you improved. Have you ever considered seeing a developmental optometrist or vision therapist? ADHD and eye tracking problems are linked.
@@bertaschmetterling I have not met with an official therapist for this, but I am aware of some of these techniques do my best to practice them as best I can on my own. The medicine makes it much easier to do the exercises. It felt like there was a missing a link with controlling my eyes before the medicine.
Tons of info out there about adults treating it with dietary changes like a ketogenic diet or getting more nutrients from organ meats, eliminating seed oils.
I just posted a long comment about this that got deleted but my experience is exactly this. Diagnosed at 21, stopped medication at 30 by going ketogenic/carnivore, stopping wheat and dairy, no food dyes, no emulsifiers, and seed oils. High fat, low carb.
Thank you for this, I'm going to look into these options. As an adult that has had my last two counselors recommend I go on something for my ADHD I am eager to find different routes and to continue to avoid taking medication.
@@amanda3084 No problem. For what it's worth, I worked in pharmaceuticals for a decade. I used to be on a few meds for metabloic stuff. Not anymore after diet change and I'd never recommend drugs for ADHD. Its junk science and even one of my friends got so addicted to adderal they died from it.
This unfortunately did not work for me...ive tried many different diets
In third grade I got the ADHD diagnosis and was started on Ritalin. Eventually I was switched to Adderall. I HATED BOTH of them. They made me feel like I was vibrating, and vaguely out of my body. It killed my joy, my drive for food. It basically nullified my personality. I vowed that I would NEVER do this for my children. I have taken a different path. Looking for a root cause to symptomology. So far, so good.
Brain fog can be a nutritional deficiency like Iron or ferritin. Many doctors don't like to treat nutritional deficiencies. They go by what is normal but most people are nutrient deficient because of what they do to our food. 😅
Fixing dietary issues helps, but it doesn't cure ADHD
Most doctors spend 5 minutes on nutrition.
Oh I agree! I’m pregnant and just diagnosed anemic and I can definitely see a difference between my pre pregnancy regular iron stores and my now depleted iron stores.
I could barely function two weeks ago before I started a supplement!
Allie, thank you for these two episodes with Dr. Roger McFillin!
I am so happy that someone with knowledge and experience has come to reveal the truth about all the diagnosis of children's behaviour and how quickly they are pushed into taking medication they really don't need for the majority of cases!!
As a former teacher, who had to closely work with chldren that had behavioural problems, I have learnt that the environment they grow in and/or parents's ways to bringing them up are root to most of the children behavioural problem, that can be corrected but need a different approach.
I loved how "common sense" was mentioned too, something that is not very abundant. Dependence on medications is a devil's chain that seems to begin in the belief of lies we are told, that is why I love working with teenagers and children, because they ask questions to understand the world, to find the truth and we, as adults have the moral obligation and duty before God, to teach them truth.
I never hear about Dr. Roger McFiller but i am praying the youtube channel gets back and running to spread truth that need be told. Actually, the fact that the yt channel has been "closed"... the more the reason to listen to Dr. Roger and do our research, be independent thinkers using wisdom and common sense! God bless you!!
Yeh that would be classic dunning-krueger there. The problem is this isn't black and white. YES there are many people (adults and children) who may be diagnosed with ADHD, put on meds and/or CBT, but may be wrongly diagnosed. There are for more who actually do have ADHD and do not realize there is hope or help, and so don't show up in front of a Doctor for diagnosis.
Overgeneralizing this as "ALL ADHD diagnosis are wrong" Is just as bad as saying "ALL ADHD diagnosis are right". Every person has unique genetics, and biochemistry to a degree, but the way people use his statements to be dismissive of people who have actual problems, is stigmatizing and hurting these people that need compassion, time, and understanding.
4:20 - Yes and amen!!! We foster and I fought tooth and nail with teachers (luckily Dr was on my side) that this boy does not have ADHD!! This is a trauma response!! Anytime he has to do something new and he is unsure about it or a little nervous, he responds with ADHD like symptoms, but I definitely noticed it really quickly that once he felt comfortable and safe in our house, those symptoms vanished! He is perfectly capable of learning without medication and he is SO SMART!!!! Praise God, we are off meds now and he is THRIVING!! We’re anxiously awaiting a court date for adoption ❤️
Kids need to be active. This is so true. Forgive me for not remembering exact details about this, but...
I saw a video a while ago about kindergarden in Japan I believe. 🤔 It was the coolest thing I have ever seen. Learning through activity, as well as activity without learning. Activity that expends excess energy. 👍
A brilliant concept indeed. And very successful if I remember correctly. 🤔
Look around... 👀
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unstructured play = letting kids teach themselves things without knowing. Children are able to flex the skill of foresight
I can believe that the Japanese study that way. And learn. I had Japanese students in my ESL class, and they were taught to do advanced math, including calculus on an abacus. So very tactile.
Hell in mew Mexico they locked my uncle up for not putting his son on ADHD medicine. When he got out, they moved. Homeschooling now.
Wow! Unbelievable. I'm so glad he moved
I'm concerned that some viewers of this are going to get the wrong idea of what ADHD is and isn't and extend the stigma even more. Do some research and listen to many angles. This doesnt just effect kids. Adult ADHD is very real. It impares relationship, jobs, money and habits. Many adults with ADHD have a history or overspending, divorce, drug abuse, depression, etc when they dont seek help to deal with their executive function impairment. We deal with being labeled as lazy and unreasonable just for how different we are. There are many tools to manage ADHD symptoms like CBT, non stimulant medication, hypnosis that can all be used in conjunction with medication. Including slow release medication that does not have the "high" of amphetamines. But these things werent mentioned as options from this Dr.
If someone in your life is struggling with things that the world labels as normal, dont dismiss it.
Also, i cant consign to it being caused just by trauma or abuse. I was raised in a very loving Christian home. My mom cooked most of our meals and i was only allowed to have a soda about once a week as a kid. I wasnt hyperactive and made good grades, but remebering to grab my lunch box or waiting until the last moment to tell my mom that i needed something for school the next day at 9 pm the night before was pretty common.
Good point. No one really talks about the memory aspect that much.
Yes, the idea that ADHD isn't real is misleading. It's mislabled and misunderstood, but that brain difference exists, and it should be helped, not just stigmatized.
Yea just trust big pharma, they have your best interests in mind. Uh oh, I forgot my keys now I need a therapist and big pharma drugs.
@@rickiecomeaux8287 There are dozens of ways someone with ADHD can learn to improve that don't involve pharma at all.
Would LOVE an interview with an expert on artificial dyes, pesticides, and other toxins and how it affects us, kids especially!
You should have him on again to discuss the Tylenol-autism lawsuit!!
I havent heard about this!?
@@Momofukudoodoowindu I keep seeing commercials all over for the lawsuits. It makes sense. Autism hasn't been around for that long. It would be interesting to trace it back to when Tylenol was brought to the public.
@@aHavenForTheLost Autism has also been linked to petocin and epidurals.
My kids appear to be autistic. Never took Tylenol, had an epidural or any pitocin.
@@sarahsalom5452 What are their symptoms? Maybe reach out to this doctor about it. He seems like an understanding guy!
Thank you so much for this episode!
Our oldest son was first diagnosed with ADHD when he was 6 years old. The diagnostic process started when he was in kindergarten. I wouldn't say that was easy. Meanwhile, we and his teacher were working hard to help him learn. He was diagnosed halfway through first grade. We opted for medication . He started the medication and he became available for learning ! Along with it, there were modifications to his learning experience , a separate room , etc, etc. He was also diagnosed with an anxiety disorder. Eventually, the recommendation made to his psychiatrist read like a short version of the diagnostic criteria for what we now call high functioning Autism. The school psychologist suggested to us that we read up on Aspergers syndrome ( this was in the late 90s). I did, and it was like reading about my son! The doctor, however, refused to change his diagnosies . We ended up moving to another state. The first time he saw his new psychiatrist, he was diagnosed with ( at that time) Aspergers. What a relief! A teacher told us this was good news because educational interventions for this kind of disorder are different from those for ADHD. We also have a daughter who is on the spectrum.She was first diagnosed with Pervasise Developmental Disorder when she was in preschool . PDD was just another way of saying Autism Apectrum Disorder.
ADHD and these other neurological disorders may be over diagnosed , but they are real. They are often treated with the same drugs and others.
I remember the day that I was sure that there was more to my son's problems than just inattention and hyperactivity. He was about 8 or 9, and I was watching him play outside. I was inside watching him through the window. He didn't know I was watching. It just struck me how different he was from other boys, in an odd way. I say that with complete acceptance and love. My son will soon be 29. He lives with us. We don't know if he'll ever live completely on his own. He's very bright, though he has learning disabilities. He gets by on his strengths. He is hugely creative and can do amazing things with puppet building and performance. He builds many of his puppets and sells some of them. He makes videos and edits them on his Apple. He does computer animation, too.
He still has to take several different medications. He has never become an "addict." His sister also takes medication, though not ADHD meds. They have never helped her.
With all this, I mean to say that every person is different. We also know it is genetic. You can observe these traits in yourself and other family members. Why were they not diagnosed? I can think of several reasons. Maybe some had some of the traits, but they weren't unmanageable . Many had ADHD but were made to feel like they were just bad children. I also believe there are more cases with more severity because, as Ken Ham from AiG would explain , our world is becoming more and more corrupted by the sin curse. The world is not getting better, not evolving, it is and we are becoming more degraded . Right down to our DNA.
~ Heather ~
I also was involve in the public schools ..the Special Ed Admin took the meds and advocated them.. I'm so in agreement with children being who they are and getting to run and paly until they are worn out tired...and less screen time craziness....and adults parents seeing our children as gifts and not an inconvenience ...oh my so much to be said for common sense and simplicity and for what matters most. Thank you for speaking out ..May some parents who don't understand or know listen and hear...! The children are so important to The Lord. They aren't objects or possessions or pets...They are His,
I love this guy and I’ll be sharing this with my daughter who has 3 young boys😊
Keep in mind, there are non-stimulant ADHD medication options. My 2nd grade son started a low dose of strattera a few weeks ago, and it’s been a game changer. I am a licensed mental health professional. We have safety and structure in our home. He is very active in multiple sports. He attends a wonderful Christian school. Yet his hyperactive and impulsive behavior (likely a combination of genetic and having been born 6 weeks premature) is so intense (and sometimes plain dangerous), that he needs just a little boost of norepinephrine in his brain to make his own behaviors manageable for him. He is relieved to be on it, and has had no negative side effects.
I appreciate that you pointed out that childhood trauma can mimic ADHD. I adopted siblings who had experienced trauma. The 2 older ones have multiple diagnoses. Luckily, some professional along the way pointed out to me that their attention problems was not true ADHD but rather hypervigilance. Neither of them was able to finish high school. My oldest couldn't even sit still long enough to complete the pre-assessment for an online GED program! There was only one time when a doctor prescribed medication for my son's attention issues, but when I found out it was a controlled substance, I said no way!
I know I'm way late on this episode, but I just wanted to chime in as well. I had such a hard time focusing on anything when in elementary school to the point to where my mom set up an Individual Education Plan so I didn't have to take timed tests within the time allotted for them. As I got older, I discovered a love of music and that really helped me out a lot because I was able to use it like white noise and it alloted me to focus on my homework and that was one of the many areas I struggled in. I still use music - and also podcasts - now more than 20 years later in the same way. I honestly do believe that I have some kind of attention deficit issue, but I am so glad my parents never took me anywhere to be treated or diagnosed because I learned how I learn and focus best by going through the struggle of not being able to focus when in school. If any of my future kids have an issue like I did, I defibrillator won't be putting them on any kind of meds because they are so harmful and can cause so many issues
All I got out of this is that people who have no clue what it's like to have ADHD feel very entitled to judge it.
I can't thank you enough .. well said
I was always talking. Always disorganized and messy. Always losing things. Thank God my teachers and parents didn't drug me.
I thought this part 2 to better capture real concerns in this disease area. Roger brought up a good point about ruling out other disease. DSM clearly states ADHD has to be diagnosed ONLY after all other mental disorders have been ruled out. That is currently not going on in the community, where they often prescribe stimulants first and ask questions later.
I was pushed by the school to put my daughter on meds when she was about 9. I tried it out for about 6 months and it didn’t seem to make much of a difference so I took her off. A few years later she was still struggling in school and I thought about trying it again. Well I was in bed thinking about it the radio my husband left on got a little louder and a program came on talking about the negative side effects of the medication. I took that as a sign from God not to put her on it. We had to help her find other ways to get through school.
I was on it briefly for about 2 years maybe 3. I quit taking it when I got pregnant with my second child. I miscarried my first. My hubby didn't want me going back on it and I'm not all that bothered being without it. I would only take it when I felt like I needed it
Do you mind if I ask, are you saying you were on Adderall when you had a miscarriage?
My 6 roommates in college swore by adderal to focus. It was not my thing to try something like that but one time I needed an entire day to get a ton of work done. I took one and it did absolutely nothing for me lol
- so in aren't stimulants known for as enhanced focus and euphoria by description and observation thereof
“We’re going to put your kid on a stimulant at age 4” is wild😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Part 2 today! What a treat!!
Becoming addicted to Allie's videos. Thank goodness she has kindly made provision for us listeners.
She's such a blessing. 🥰
@@kellyoneill189 ❤️❤️❤️❤️😍
I would love to listen to this the whole way through, but I keep getting distracted…
But seriously being 5 months pregnant I’m off the meds and it makes me realize how good my life was when I was on them. My marriage and friendships were all better. I went through my whole childhood/ early adulthood resisting medication. I have found them so helpful. I usually agree with what’s shared on Relatable, but I’m not sure with this one.
Ok I was diagnosed with ADHD in first or second grade, put on Ritalin then later Concerta got off of it my sophomore year and been struggling but surviving since. I'm 37 years old now. How do I proceed in this society?
30:10 - "... but I'm going to say that 99.8% of your listening population likely shouldn't have children on stimulant drugs ...". In general I'm sympathetic to that opinion*, but there is a hypocrisy that most listeners may miss: do you as an adult use stimulants? (Think first caffeine, second nicotine.) I myself do take caffeine, but it would probably be better to abstain so to avoid tolerance, so that if and when I really do need a stimulant boost my body will respond well to the drug, used as a drug, as an exception and not as a lifestyle. (*: Full disclosure: for my livelihood I analyze clinical trial data for a drug company interested in making and marketing ADHD drugs.)
Is this man a Christian? I read he studies spirituality, yoga and meditation. I am hard pressed to take everything he says as “gospel” when he may have the main thing in life so wrong.
Thank you.
School is often boring and it sucks! So they called me adhd?
ADHD a "social construct"? Bull Shi... Perhaps you want to give it a different name, but it's a real thing. I wish I could show you video of my six year old daughter on Wed at her 5-7 year old dance class. There were 11 students there. 10 of which were respectably looking up at their teacher/dance instructor and following instructions (for the most part) and then my daughter rolling around on the floor off in her own world, participating with the group only occasionally. If that is not executive function deficit then what is? Just how much dance do you think she is really going to learn? And it's not that she doesn't want to do it, she just can't!!!! She can't help herself. Doing dance class was her idea, not mine.
Last year in kindergarten after one month she was expelled from full-day school. She was simply too disruptive to the class. Too much to handle. She had to have someone hold her hand and walk her EVERY TIME the class transitioned from place to another. She has had and will continue to have additional special ed help, perhaps indefinitely.
I'm not pro on putting kids, my kids, on drugs. But to call this condition a "social construct" is VERY disrespectful to those that deal with the condition. It is social blasphemy!
I agree. Adult with adhd, she’s right about like dyes in food, or eating keto ( when you can, it’s so extreme, hard to follow long term), but to dismiss it entirely is wack. I fully understand cuz I was your daughter at one point lol
As a son who has an aid all day because of behavioral problems. This isn't just made up. I find it insulting that he believes it's not real.
I went to preschool so when I was in kindergarten doing the exact same work it bored me and I became disruptive but the teachers insisted it was because I had adhd then unfortunately they put me on several different medications and I became a shell of myself I believe it ruined my brain since then Iv been diagnosed with panic disorder cptsd and high functioning autism
I was hoping that this would turn around, but sadly it didn't. My son is 8 and was diagnosed at 4. We were reccomended by 2 psychologist to start him on meds who use meds as a last result because his impulsiveness was so bad. I was hesitant because he was 4. Then we had a week where it was unsafe for him or us. We then started meds and it has literally saved our lives. This past year we tested him again and he tested the highest you can for ADHD even with him on meds. He was also found out to have a mood disorder. If he doesn’t have ADHD meds, he cannot function in life at all! So, I don’t agree with this doctor unless he is briefly referring to my son as the 1%.
I found out as an adult I have ADD/ADHD. Sure, I made it through school fine. I had to be off meds for a while and ended up taking anxiety meds in place of it. So i find it contradictory for him to go on how anxiety and depression is real, but not ADHD. I'm able to actually process issues better on meds this way. I am also on a non-stimulant, which he didn't address.
What about Methylphenidate? It's not an amphetamine.
Is there any way of practically using placebos for illnesses on a wide scale? I would love to use fake pills for my adhd lol. But how would that work?
Believe in the song "Spoonful of Sugar" in the literal sense.
I look forward to seeing you after baby, the very best to you and hubby.
All the people offended that he is saying ADHD isn't real are totally missing what he said - ADHD is not an actual discrete diagnosis. The symptoms of ADHD are real - trouble concentrating, hyperactivity, etc. - but they are caused by something. Find the underlying cause and see if it's fixable (like through diet). Learn to view hyperactivity and other "symptoms" as strengths that can be harnessed for good. Train yourself to improve concentration and focus.
How incredibly condescending to assume kids are just diagnosed with ADHD because their parents don't understand them! 15:50
Yes! I was able to get diagnosed and help BECAUSE my parents understood and advocated for me. They knew I wasn't dumb or lazy, but needed skills and tools.
Let’s talk about the food that inflames our bodies snd causing adhd symptoms. Or deficiency of vitamin and minerals.
Adderall is literally methamphetamine without the "meth". The two are virtually the same thing. It's just a cleaner version of meth. I'm not proud of it but I've done both and I know. It's the same thing and NO ONE "needs" to be prescribed amphetamines for any reason. Also, when you look at the prescription bottle of someone who has generic Adderall, it just says, "Amphetamine".
Look it up.
Also just about every person I've ever known that got hooked on methamphetamine as an adult was prescribed Adderall as a child. 🤔
Correlation?
People just seem to want to believe that the two are completely different because of all the stigma around meth and doctors want to justify prescribing it so they try to ensure parents that they're two totally different things. It's the same thing with heroin and prescription opiates and doctors prescribing methadone and suboxone. They're all narcotics and they all provide the same euphoric effects that all opioids provide.
Methamphetamine and Amphantamine are not the same thing. Their molecular structures have less in common than water and hydrogen peroxide, smh.
@@kimberlyhovis5864 you are wrong.
ua-cam.com/video/-o0qi7v7mvM/v-deo.html
Calling Adderall methamphetamine is like calling an orange, a banana.
@@cypherphoenix2665 you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Watch the scientific explanation of their molecular structures in the link I shared above. They're almost identical. If you don't believe that chemist, just Google search the molecular difference between amphetamine and methamphetamine. Although, I don't see why it's so hard to believe. It's in the name.
@@cypherphoenix2665 exactly!
In this interview, "Do Stimulants Affect People with ADHD differently from people without ADHD?" Dr. Joanna Moncrieff explains how ADHD drugs work and whether they are worth the long term risks of taking stimulants. ua-cam.com/video/4jEsD40FVmc/v-deo.html
Just need to comment on the iPad I work in before and after school care in Australia I noticed the addiction with iPad with these children as it distracts and wanted the iPad all the time we had a couple in the service when they were taken away the children. Were asking for the computer technology that the educators used for their working it was challenging
If ADHD is a "social construct" what else is? Autism, Alzheimer, Parkinsons?
I know someone who already believes her 1 1/2 year old has ADHD… maybe he has ADHD or maybe he’s just a toddler who’s full of energy, life, and curiosity! Why are we so quick to slap on a label??? He’s only one year old!
It is an unfortunate reality that yeah a lot of people get misdiagnosed with ADHD, but there are probably far more that never seek understanding of who they are and have ADHD because of these conversations. The reality is, that too many are treating this as a false choice, either its meds or no meds to help with ADHD, Either its the way schools are structured or its just how your child was born, it can be both!
God is Loving and Merciful but God is NOT obligated or indebted to Anybody let alone everybody. Romans 9:16; Daniel 4:34; Ps 14:2,3
Active kids need to be allowed to be active. Social kids need to be allowed to socialize. Yes!
Then what am I to do!???? My kid can't function and needs help.
What ever you do don’t put your child on stimulants plz I got addicted and eventually graduated to meth it ruined my life and I’m still stuffering the consequences
These pharmaceuticals were used in WW3.
I meant WW2… the allied forces gave their troops Amphetamine sulfate while the Nazi forces were in the Meth and couldn’t sleep. Amphetamine sulfate allowed the Allied troops to sleep.
Sad to see darwinian evolution appealed to as the basis for Dr. Roger McFillin's beliefs (5:17).
FYI on BLAZE part 2 is also part 1 again. Both the same!
Excellent information.
It's full of ignorant though. It fails to address may facets, uses massive generalizations, and is riddled with exception to rule fallacies.
But we did have that. People did show up on time and worked harder then today. Everyone seems to be medicated, yet the work force is far worse today then 30 years ago..Kids are out of control, hateful and angry. Dusrespectful and not able to handle stress. All of tnis with them on meds. Hmmmm
Very well said.
Did you seriously just insinuate that everyone is crazy and all we need to fix ourselves is a better mindset? 24:10
Please stop giving this guy a platform.
To anyone out there who if feeling guilted and shamed for your struggle by this man, please know that he is twisting the truth. He gives just enough truth to sound believable and then he presents his theories as a natural conclusion. It is so unfair and not helpful.
Please do your own research.
This series has been little more than click-bait.
This!!
If you are going to argue that adhd is a social construct without an underlying biological reality, please interact with the studies that show otherwise.
Multiple studies of brain scans of children with ADHD have shown the prefrontal cortex is smaller than the unaffected test group. This doesn't prove it as fact, but is more than enough evidence to remove the misconception of adhd being a social construct.
I really wish conservatives would stop throwing the baby out with the bath water when it comes to ADHD. Stimulants are over-prescribed and many are receiving very little behavioral therapy AND ADHD is real. Both are true and it is ok to have nuance every once in awhile.
Please see the pushback as a chance to reconsider some of the info he's given you. This isn't simply "hitting a nerve" because people have identity issues. It's just bad Information.
He said nothing wrong. He never even implied that you are crazy, Look up the placebo effect. The brain and your mindset is insanely powerful
@@gandalftheblack4 There's a lot more science on ADHD and brain chemistry. ADHD could almost be summed up as a short-term memory problem. It's not something you can choose to just not have by having a positive mindset.
St.Paul to King Agrippa on the purpose of this gospel : " to open their eyes that they may turn from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God. That they may Receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are Sanctified by Faith in God." Acts 26:18
I was just reading that in my Bible reading last night. Praise God!!
Neighbor boy…Teacher “he needs Adderal”…he needed glasses😮. That’s why he didn’t stay focused on lessons.
so distracting with the long ads
I don't care about your in video ads. I got premium for a reason
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- adderall, are amphetamine salts, according to it's prescription monitor
Every comment I post disappears smh.
This one didn’t
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If it’s anything other than the Nazi’s inventing it, or the Japanese, not sure who exactly was first. Both though gave it out to their soldiers, all the kamikaze pilots were given huge doses before their suicide airplane runs.
This episode failed to address adult ADHD, inattentive ADHD, non-medication solutions, it presented this as fact, with no citation other than opinion. I think this and the previous episode, failed to treat this issue with dignity and respect to those who struggle with it. It did present some good advice but not much. I would expect better from this podcast.
Maybe you would want to listen to episodes of his podcast. I’m sure he gives sources there. It’s pretty evident he knows the research that’s available.
The episodes are accurately titled. Stop whining and do some research.
@jcmustian weren't you taught that useful saying, "If you can't say something kind,say nothing" .
The sources I've researched say ADHD, either adult or pediatric, can be mitigated by diet and vitamins, which is what this guest said. A lot of mental health issues can actually be resolved this way, the only issue is finding a doctor who would be willing to prefer to look into the simpler, cheaper fix of adjusting diet and even lifestyle rather than leap to prescribing expensive drugs the medical community still doesn't understand. I'm not saying these serious issues don't exist, but it seems deficiencies do a great job of mimicking these serious problems and many doctors don't care to get to the real cause and identification of their patients' problems.
I suffer with adult ADHD but I have overcome the need for medication through Christ. I fasted for three days because God pushed me to do so. Ever since then I have completely given up Adderall and Vyvanse. I feel like a new person. Yes I suffer still with the symptoms but I count them as a blessing. Jesus suffered more than we could ever imagine. So we can learn to suffer without ADHD meds. I would suggest you go into deep prayer and try fasting. I pray you get the help you need through Christ Jesus. It was really hard for me at first. I was having manic episodes but God carried me through it. I promise he will do the same for you. I am so proud of myself and God gets all the real glory. God bless.❤
Listening and loving the podcast, but Ali hoping to hear you call him out on that evolution stuff. At least remind him that it is a THEORY of evolution.
I really enjoy this and I'm sure he knows what he's talking about, but it's just so upsetting and angering to me how many intelligent and reasonable people believe in evolution and base their world view off of it. Smh. I'm sure you agree Allie.
Yes it is over diagnosed but it is real and the proper meds are very beneficial. Also i believe the diagnosis should include nutrition neurologist and maybe but not nessarily a psychological assessment be in order. What is more concerning to me is the ssri meds these doctors hand out like candy to children and adults alike. They just came out with a study that these meds are poison. Please do a deep dive into that.
Lot of ignorance here Allie, you are using minorities and one offs, exceptions to the rule and you compare yourself with the entire population which is irrelevant. Its not a case of "well I had a focus issue and got over it so that means anyone can" Every case is different, literally every case & each should have a tailored & thorough evaluation by a psychiatrist and only a psychiatrist.
Yes, that's quite a bias. Since she didn't experience ADHD, it must not exist.
@@allieoneal2033Yes, unfortunately some of those who call themselves devout Christians, have difficulty understanding that mental illness or related issues even exist, let alone can be successfully treated or managed by medical and allied health professionals. It appears to be more prevalent in the more conservative or fundamentalist circles. The answer for them is never medical, it's prayer, it's changing your attitude, "growing up" or strengthening your spiritual walk etc. There is a distinct irony in the fact they are fearful of the medically intangible, we can't "see" mental illness the way we can see most physical manifestations of a disease yet they worship, respect, "follow", obey and prioritise something completely intangible.
@@sharonhoward884 it's frustrating because it doesn't have to be one or the other. For example, I find that starting my morning with God often means I have a measure of better focus that day. I think that there can be a spiritual component. However, this kind of thing absolutely can't just be blamed on a spiritual or moral failing. Yes, kids who spend more time outdoors have better outcomes, but unlike this man claims, that's not a cure.
I feel like this guest is one of those people who prey on desperate people who need help but have low trust in institutions. I'm sure he has programs and supplements he makes money on, but he accuses the drug companies of the same thing.
ADHD diagnoses have been around a long time... before smart phones and iPads. That can't be the entire reason.
I really, really hate frozen food! Only underprivileged folks eat frozen food.