How Belgium Changed Fashion

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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    Annoyingly, there seems to be a lot of different dates on the internet in regards to the Antwerp six. Some sites say they first showed in London in 1986, others say 1987. Some sites say that Margiela and Walter van Beirendonck graduated together, some say Margiela graduated a year earlier. I think this discrepancy may be due to fashion's slightly irritating dating system (eg. S/S 2023 shows are held in Late 2022, so S/S 1987 shows were probably also held in late 1986). I tried my best to use what I found to be the most accurate dates and facts but there is always room for error. I also tried to use primary sources for information from people who were around at the time like Geert Bruloot himself who talked about the Antwerp six in an interview so that all the info I talk about in this video is accurate. Hope you enjoyed and learned something even if you already knew about the Antwerp six.
    Here are links to some of the articles I referenced for this video:
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 78

  • @undercooked13
    @undercooked13 Рік тому +138

    You see Walter and Dirk walk around and shop together quite often

  • @FashionRoadman
    @FashionRoadman Рік тому +100

    So many interesting aspects to the Antwerp six that are so fascinating. Even down to how the fashion department in the Royal Academy of Fine Arts was formulated and encouraged their designers to think in an artistic way. I also love the stories of the things they all brought to the British Designer show in London’s Olympia.
    E.g:
    Dries Van Noten - a small selection of men’s jackets and shirts
    Ann Demeulemeester - a few pairs of sunglasses
    Dirk Bikkembergs - a shoe collection
    It shows how they were really just winging it and taking every chance as it came. Such a refreshing era to look into.

    • @fashionlover4
      @fashionlover4  Рік тому +9

      It's super interesting how they did it. Considering how they all must have brought so little I guess they really had no option but to show as a group. Any chance you remember where you heard what they brought? Sounds like an interesting read/listen.

    • @FashionRoadman
      @FashionRoadman Рік тому +7

      @@fashionlover4 Walter told me when I spoke to him in Belgium - not sure if that part of the conversation made it into the interview I posted though

    • @FashionRoadman
      @FashionRoadman Рік тому +5

      @@fashionlover4 there’s also a dries van noten book where it’s mentioned it’s called “Dries Van Noten : Shape, Print and Fabric”

  • @umita3902
    @umita3902 Рік тому +58

    Hii, I’m from Brussels, Belgium.
    I’ve only realised while studying in the Netherlands this year how the Belgian culture is so focussed on individualism and uniqueness.
    I loved how someone said they went to london and just winged it, in brussels we would say “vite fait” which means just doing something quickly without putting much effort into it, but still having something to show.
    It keeps surprising me how my small country keeps putting out these amazing artists and designers.
    Loved the video

    • @Peachnight
      @Peachnight Рік тому +2

      Was that the same way with the drc? Let's cut off our ancestors limbs so they'll pick rubber faster. "Vite fait"

    • @umita3902
      @umita3902 Рік тому +2

      @@Peachnight
      I hope not!!
      Leopold II did such terrible things and the government had to take over the colony, but didn’t do much about the cruelty either. i’ve been currently researching more about it and spreading awareness, also about the human zoo of 1897 and expo 58. the fact that there are still reminders of this history (eg. the Atomium) that tourists just happily walk by is saddening. Belgium is so glorified, for sure in the fashion industry, which makes it hard for people to see the harsh reality on what this country has been built on.

  • @isaacavasquez
    @isaacavasquez Рік тому +29

    the "antwerp six" sounds like the "elite four" in pokemon but for fashion school lmfao

  • @sams3015
    @sams3015 Рік тому +20

    I’m going to Antwerp next month so I’ve been reading up more about them. This video is perfect timing

    • @kyo_qi
      @kyo_qi Рік тому +1

      Ayy enjoy your time there

    • @PiLLO360
      @PiLLO360 Рік тому

      How was it?

  • @myychll
    @myychll Рік тому +16

    I wish Marina would get more recognition. I love her designs so much, it’s incredible

  • @seppoweyns
    @seppoweyns Рік тому +9

    One of the best reasons i am happy to be from antwerp i went to walter his stocksale and the cool thing is that his stocksales are held at his atelier where he makes everything. If you are around his atelier you actually see him a lot he was also just chilling at the stocksales

  • @prod6mill.512
    @prod6mill.512 Рік тому +2

    damn footage of Martin Margiela on the runway is sum i never seen before, awesome video

  • @nimityaka
    @nimityaka Рік тому +3

    Raf Simmons is one of my fav designers. I love his minimalistic style with a twist.

  • @inkarlcerating
    @inkarlcerating Рік тому +3

    I was fortunate enough to meander and peruse in Antwerp 3 months ago. I also have a vlog about it. I totally forgot that Walter teaches at the Royal academy. We also went to Ann Dem on the day they did the Paris show and she even rang in the store’s phone to check on things ( accdg to the shop assistant) crazyyyy

  • @Emanuele_Cantamesse
    @Emanuele_Cantamesse Рік тому +4

    I choose to focus my graduate thesis on the importance of old and new Antwerp fashion scene so this was really helpful, where can I find some info about Antwerp designer excluding the ordinary articles on the main websites?

    • @charlotteklewais
      @charlotteklewais Рік тому

      I found the book '50 years of fashion academy' really interesting. There is a lot of in-depth information about their time at the academy but also on how they started and all the steps they took along the way. Worth reading it!

  • @kobbibanks5999
    @kobbibanks5999 Рік тому +1

    thanks fashionlover4 for another insightful vid

  • @pseudo148
    @pseudo148 Рік тому

    This video was fantastic, I love your more deep dive videos, and use of b roll, I could watch this all day, keep it up gifted tailor

  • @dinislopes2399
    @dinislopes2399 Рік тому +3

    Great video! What sources should I use for further learning the Antwerp 6?

  • @quinnaitkenhead
    @quinnaitkenhead Рік тому

    good shit man, always grateful to learn new details to these age old stories and legends

  • @eminkirac4712
    @eminkirac4712 Рік тому +6

    Im straight. But Id twist curls into walters chesthair while Listening to his heart beat.

  • @tzegoh333
    @tzegoh333 Рік тому +2

    The way that people talked about them, it's like as though they changed the world fundamentally. But really, they sold clothes, that's about it.

  • @rayxusa.mp3
    @rayxusa.mp3 Рік тому +5

    i concur, the bungee metal hell is indeed the goat

  • @Devananta-Rafiq
    @Devananta-Rafiq Рік тому +1

    Banger video! Antwerp 6 such a game changer group

  • @bodincastell1263
    @bodincastell1263 8 місяців тому

    Do you know where Dirk Bikkembergs is today? Rarely anything about the man himself online. Thank you, great talk.

  • @daviddion1764
    @daviddion1764 Рік тому +2

    Dries Von Noten sold his company to Puig.He is still the creative director.

    • @Devananta-Rafiq
      @Devananta-Rafiq Рік тому +1

      It's either Dries got 49% minority or 51% majority I forget

    • @prettyaron
      @prettyaron 8 місяців тому

      @@Devananta-Rafiqminority

  • @Ardamisc
    @Ardamisc Рік тому +2

    Bungee boots are indeed goated, too bad I got boat feet lmao.

  • @bodincastell1263
    @bodincastell1263 8 місяців тому

    Is the belt Martin is wearing on the catwalk an inverted pentagram, interesting!

  • @buttershy_
    @buttershy_ Рік тому

    i love this video, a very creative and apt title!

  • @umaxi96
    @umaxi96 Рік тому

    Currently live in Antwerp :))

  • @qoladipo5754
    @qoladipo5754 Рік тому +3

    Yo dude thought it was worth noting that Dirk van Saene teaches at the Antwerp Fashion School so he isn’t as seperated from fashion as media make him out to be 😁

  • @maxelling2739
    @maxelling2739 Рік тому +3

    Can’t tell if my fashion sense is poor or highly anointed for knowing the only 3 that you didn’t mention on face value, admittedly after naming the other few they are immediately recognizable

  • @heartbroken6658
    @heartbroken6658 Рік тому

    Omg my biggest dream is to get into the royal academy in Antwerp.

  • @Air.keccc1
    @Air.keccc1 Рік тому +2

    Why are they all so damn attractive

  • @undercooked13
    @undercooked13 Рік тому +2

    You should make videos on lesser known just as talented belgian disgners from belgium/ antwerp, like Stephan Schneider

  • @secretlich8284
    @secretlich8284 Рік тому

    Where do you find all your runway footage?

  • @gpu213
    @gpu213 Рік тому

    agree that the dirk boots are elite.

  • @miafethiere2366
    @miafethiere2366 Рік тому

    dirk bikkembergs spring 2004 is one of my favorite runways i wish he kept doing womenswear

  • @ambergris5705
    @ambergris5705 Рік тому

    Makes you think of whether Josephus Thimister would still be with us if he had a group like this with him...

  • @ilyproxy
    @ilyproxy Рік тому +1

    shouldve kept original title😔

  • @soxslol
    @soxslol Рік тому +1

    i am a proud belgian

  • @nikacomfort6242
    @nikacomfort6242 Рік тому

    Can someone send me the link to the first runway??

  • @theblackmag7475
    @theblackmag7475 Рік тому +2

    Yo bro you killing this shit lmfao

  • @luckycat4241
    @luckycat4241 Рік тому

    whyd you change the title it was good

  • @plutovsthewurld
    @plutovsthewurld Рік тому

    im from bruxelles

  • @Luke-vg2tg
    @Luke-vg2tg Рік тому

    whats the collection at 4:51 ?

  • @Whodnl
    @Whodnl Рік тому

    The legend

  • @robby3499
    @robby3499 Рік тому +3

    Saene is more pronounced like saa nuh

    • @fashionlover4
      @fashionlover4  Рік тому +1

      Oh wow never would've guessed that, thanks

    • @robby3499
      @robby3499 Рік тому +3

      It’s pretty hard to describe the pronunciation exactly but that’s the closest I can get it, the ea is more like a long dutch a

  • @zacstarkey1369
    @zacstarkey1369 Рік тому

    In this world tame impala is a 5 member boy band

  • @fajnegadanie8465
    @fajnegadanie8465 Рік тому +1

    I had 1 minut mindfuck seeing this title

  • @_Puke
    @_Puke Рік тому +1

    I liked the video because of the furry. That’s it.

  • @chillguy7925
    @chillguy7925 Рік тому

    antwerp six?

  • @caipirinha70
    @caipirinha70 Рік тому

    Saene rhymes with Shah-nuh

  • @tafm4426
    @tafm4426 Рік тому

    Im apart of Gen z and I won't disappoint

  • @bloba6969
    @bloba6969 Рік тому +1

    What the hell is this title

  • @buttershy_
    @buttershy_ Рік тому

    what

  • @Rotclubb
    @Rotclubb Рік тому

    Sick

  • @wewepolapy
    @wewepolapy 6 місяців тому

    just here to let you know you absolutely butchered all dutch/vlaamse names

  • @hey-ek1rv
    @hey-ek1rv Рік тому +1

    speak slower please do it for me my brain is slow

  • @hiwelcometochillis2579
    @hiwelcometochillis2579 Рік тому +1

    They all flop

  • @undercooked13
    @undercooked13 Рік тому +3

    hi , Im from antwerp if you want some extremely insight giveing interviews check out THE MOST podcast

  • @typarrydean1954
    @typarrydean1954 Рік тому

    Whats your IG?

  • @eprohoda
    @eprohoda Рік тому

    Fasshionlover4- Yahoo-beautiful , all the best, 😲